This did not have to wind up out of control. People wonder why I responded as I had the post he had up with BS in the subject is pulled so it appears one sided. I am moving on while he insists on back channeling it shows his character should someone else contact him with a friendly hello I am on my way to town PM. There is too much PMing and gossiping going on between men lieing to other men creating fabrications of their own stories .
I can appreciate the frustration, both financially and sexually, we've all been there at one time or another.
Something tells me there is more to this story than is presented, and just leave there. It would be TMI...
What I find curious is that the OP qualifies his position as not being a cheap prick, but for the delectable Serafima, His reviews prove him otherwise.
He then again qualifies leaving her name out, but says..... just pm me and i'll fess up.
What kind of B*** S*** is that
The OP has been given some Sage advice about how a gentleman should behave, and think. I won't belabor those points.
But I'd like to leave the OP and the other poster with some realities.
When these providers travel, they incur some fairly decent overhead IE: flights, cab fairs, meals, Hotels, etc.... Just like any other business, they need to recoup these costs, and then make a nickel. As a business proposition we need to BE RESPECTFUL of that and know what we can afford. When the seller says enough's enough! so be it! you tried your best.... move on.
Keep your frustrations and dirty laundry OFF the boards.
Now the final piece of Advice. If you're having financial difficulties, and admit to spending, $1k/Mo.
I believe she did you a favor. Be Good to Yourself and those around you.....get whole financially first. you'll be a better man for it.
and.....Listen to the Sage advice above....... You'll Hobby from a "better place", and .... you'll win the ladies, and have a far better experience.
Don't stress, We've all been there before.
Namaste
I have left her name out of this so if you really want to know who she is PM me.
E
I'll start by saying I had a nice time with a provider that was visiting and hoped to meet up with her again at some point in time when I could afford it. Key word here is afford. She posted an ad here saying she is coming back in March. Then she PMd me and asked if I was interested and I was. I simply said if I get my tax returns back in time I would see her. Then I get this message "Maybe we should never discuss meeting anymore. It was nice to have met you." WTF should I do? Change all my plans and take out a loan so that she can afford to come here. If you're depending on me to spend xxx amount of cash to make your trip worth coming to Boston, maybe you should stay home and twiddle yer thumbs. Nothing like a little pressure to drum up some business. She is no longer on my radar. I will only be seeing visitors who make regular visits to the area without pressuring me into spending more than I want to spend. I am not a cheep prick and do spend way more than I should be spending on this hobby or sport. I don't repeat with manny providers so when I'm ready and do want to repeat, I would appreciate not being pressured. In other words I will get there when I get there. Don't plan around me.
I have left her name out of this so if you really want to know who she is PM me.
E
Men of means are sexy to her; money is an aphrodisiac, as poewer has been said to be. A provider ahs said as much here, in the past. She lusted to be spoiled rotten and you gave her a pang of guilt. In nature, the strong male who will silently endure discomfort is the one who gets the female because he is fittest. You as much as told her you'd appreciate a pity-f*ck.
All you had to do was tell her you didn't know, yet, whether you have a session. You didn't need to tell her why, with a broad hint that she's outside your financial league. If she wants a Viktor Komarowski, then a Pasha or a Yurii is total wilt.
Just my theory.
I blow at least 12k per year on this sport. What category does that put me in?
There are plenty of guys on here in the six figure catagory.
Now, I'm not saying where I fall for obvious reasons, it's no one's business but my own; but just look at the number of reveiws some guys have and do the math.
She was being bitchy.
She* solicited him*.
When a provider personally reminds a client that she is going to be in his area she's going out on a limb- sometimes the response will be "great! I'll pick you up from the airport, lets have four hours!" or sometimes its "I don't know that I can afford to see you" or "I don't have the time to see you this visit".
If he really did reply as he said he did her reaction was totally inappropriate.
Now if a client is constantly guilt-tripping a provider or reminding her about his finances unprompted, I think its perfectly reasonable to ignore that or cease communication.
I don't make clients aware of my finances and I don't care about theirs (unless its overwhelmingly clear that they are in over their head because I'm not trying to fleece someone who obviously can't afford to play).
But if it happened as he describes her asking him to see her and then dropping him like a broke joke? Totally unnecessary and incredibly short-sighted lol!
This was not the first time she was upset with me. The first time was six weeks after I saw her and she was coming back to meet someone else and wanted me to pad her purse and "make it worth it for me" not my words but hers. All quotes copied and pasted from PMs.
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A simple "Let me know." is all that was called for.
But in general, discussions of fiscal wherewithal are to be avoided for reasons that should be very clear by now.
his finances or lack thereof. Keeping it simple works well for both parties.
"I'll let you know. Thanks for reaching out and if I can't see you for whatever reason, I hope you have a safe and satisfying trip!"
simple
-- Modified on 3/2/2013 10:49:41 AM
Not sure if I'll get to the rest of the PMs today but I will try to have a reply to you by Monday at the latest.
I decided to not see you . I told you it is not a good idea that we see each other again and that
is why you are mad not because I happen to drop a line to tell you I was planning a trip.Had I known
that those few words would earn me a landmine explosion I would have not contacted you as you
asked me to if I were returning to your area so I was following up because you asked me to . I do not think it is a good idea to see someone who always reminds me of his financial issues.I feel guilty
letting you know I would be visiting because all I ever hear is how broke you are. I am saying again
I really do think it is best if we do not see each other again because after the fact I feel like shit taking money from a man who through my entire getting to know him revolved around his financial
loss who he owes and more. Good luck to you.Please do not practice the financial drama with other
providers it makes them feel bad . Best of luck to you .
Angela
I've been trying to following this drama back and forth. Angela, I hope these final comments you just posted will suffice to end this and both parties can move on. I also hope this hasn't diminished your plans to visit. I'm sure there are a lot of gentlemen who would welcome you to Boston and New York if you are able to make it. It would be nice to meet you in person.
you and your offer was two for 1.5hr rate. I have never had $$$ issues with any of the many ladies I have met.
Judging from the PMs in my inbox you won't have many visitors half of which would be repeat clients. I'm also fielding PMs from Chicago telling me you're a drama Q.
Now that everyone knows who it was I probably won't need to get to the rest of the PMs.
I gave you rates because you ASKED ME and I will show them if you want . I gave you my one and two hr rate and discounted you. Hell I spent an hour helping you with directions remember that?
Go ahead and PM whomever you wish . Drama is your middle name men hold this trait more than
women do.Assholes are in every community.Join them where there is misery there is company .If
that's the only class of males you will ever make friends with I feel so sad for you .Spend your entire week ahead on craving to destroy someone karma's a bitch you will get your just dessert
no one has to provoke that it will happen on its own .
PMS instead of being an adult and a man who knows how to resolve misunderstandings in life.Why did you find this important anyway? To make something out of the fact that you were rejected?
All you had to do was ask me but you are craving attention so badly having no friends I guess your need for them else would have by now you are a troublemaking provoking poor excuse for a man who has an anger problem.How pathetic can someone be to stoop as low as you have? And to think a few of us helped you when you were asking about how to get free VIP on ter claiming to have always posted bad reviews. Right there everyone could see that you are a negative individual And here you are acting worse than before. As abusive on the community boards as you have
demonstrated is reason enough to consider you to be deserving of black list heaven only knows
Boston does not need another life lost should you become so out of control you become physically
abusive to an innocent person it starts out with verbal abuse and anger.
Damn am I sorry I sent you a friendly hello . You need a fucking exorcism today.Oh by the way I know who is assisting you in your mission to interfere with future meetings . I hope he does not
offer you drugs to calm you down better you see your Dr for something because you need it.
Your true manipulative nature. Anything you post on this thread (or anytime) is suspect and should be cobsidered self serving.
A provider pm'ing me she ivisiting is alway a nice message for me. I appreciate their remembering me and their business savvy of pre booking to try to set a schedule. For those of us with any sales experience the road week set up is as important as the presentation is itself. I found nothing really pushy by the reminder and do not see the provider here doing anything wrong up until the hobbiest say's pm me for the name if want...that is a threat to her reputaion and now you are fucking with her money. I have seen providers that i will not see again and I politely decline when they are in town but still papreciate the offer. Try "I will be away" instead of "I am broke". wish her well ad move on. It is vindictive and harsh to tell the board members to pm you and you will tell who it is. You hurt yourself and the provider as someday the lady you want to see may decline when you are flush with funds and you will spend you $ elsewhere and be dissapointemd. Good luck to you both on this misunderstanding and that is i am sure all it is. Having been on both sides of these "feuds" on this board it sucks for both parties and I am sure the lady is a delight and obviously the gentleman is just that having been invited back for a 2nd tryst, so it it a mulligan for you both.
next jeopardy category?
I'll take super hot gfe's for $300 alex
There is always two sides to the story and then there is the TRUTH! We will never know!
Mj
When did I mention a word about my rate??? Never one time. I sent you a simple hi how are you
I am visiting . . .
Please do not lie I said nothing other than we should not see each other again. And I did it as a
favor to you . I did not plan around you I simply said hello . Since day one with you it was money
issues. I do not know why you chose me to complain to do I have the words financial consultant
written across my forehead? I just wanted to have some good sex and get you and I off . Man .
Nite nite.
Angela
yajtsenre
I have left her name out of this so if you really want to know who she is PM me.
E
is a bit curious at best.
I can appreciate the frustration, both financially and sexually, we've all been there at one time or another.
Something tells me there is more to this story than is presented, and just leave there. It would be TMI...
What I find curious is that the OP qualifies his position as not being a cheap prick, but for the delectable Serafima, His reviews prove him otherwise.
He then again qualifies leaving her name out, but says..... just pm me and i'll fess up.
What kind of B*** S*** is that
The OP has been given some Sage advice about how a gentleman should behave, and think. I won't belabor those points.
But I'd like to leave the OP and the other poster with some realities.
When these providers travel, they incur some fairly decent overhead IE: flights, cab fairs, meals, Hotels, etc.... Just like any other business, they need to recoup these costs, and then make a nickel. As a business proposition we need to BE RESPECTFUL of that and know what we can afford. When the seller says enough's enough! so be it! you tried your best.... move on.
Keep your frustrations and dirty laundry OFF the boards.
Now the final piece of Advice. If you're having financial difficulties, and admit to spending, $1k/Mo.
I believe she did you a favor. Be Good to Yourself and those around you.....get whole financially first. you'll be a better man for it.
and.....Listen to the Sage advice above....... You'll Hobby from a "better place", and .... you'll win the ladies, and have a far better experience.
Don't stress, We've all been there before.
Namaste
I have left her name out of this so if you really want to know who she is PM me.
E
This did not have to wind up out of control. People wonder why I responded as I had the post he had up with BS in the subject is pulled so it appears one sided. I am moving on while he insists on back channeling it shows his character should someone else contact him with a friendly hello I am on my way to town PM. There is too much PMing and gossiping going on between men lieing to other men creating fabrications of their own stories .
I can appreciate the frustration, both financially and sexually, we've all been there at one time or another.
Something tells me there is more to this story than is presented, and just leave there. It would be TMI...
What I find curious is that the OP qualifies his position as not being a cheap prick, but for the delectable Serafima, His reviews prove him otherwise.
He then again qualifies leaving her name out, but says..... just pm me and i'll fess up.
What kind of B*** S*** is that
The OP has been given some Sage advice about how a gentleman should behave, and think. I won't belabor those points.
But I'd like to leave the OP and the other poster with some realities.
When these providers travel, they incur some fairly decent overhead IE: flights, cab fairs, meals, Hotels, etc.... Just like any other business, they need to recoup these costs, and then make a nickel. As a business proposition we need to BE RESPECTFUL of that and know what we can afford. When the seller says enough's enough! so be it! you tried your best.... move on.
Keep your frustrations and dirty laundry OFF the boards.
Now the final piece of Advice. If you're having financial difficulties, and admit to spending, $1k/Mo.
I believe she did you a favor. Be Good to Yourself and those around you.....get whole financially first. you'll be a better man for it.
and.....Listen to the Sage advice above....... You'll Hobby from a "better place", and .... you'll win the ladies, and have a far better experience.
Don't stress, We've all been there before.
Namaste
I have left her name out of this so if you really want to know who she is PM me.
E
After reading this entire thread, IMO the OP comes off as shady, argumentative, over bearing and rude person. Going off on a long rant about a negative experience just mkes you look childish. Simply state what happened, why you you feel you were mislead and leave it at that. But if the complaint is about $$$ I think you should of simply let it go and moved on. Not writing that mini novel of a rant in your original post. It makes you look the kind of person that can't leave well enough alone. Be done with it and move on. There are plenty of other providers in the sea.
Angela, after reading your responses AFTER your 1st response, you come off as immature and vindictive. Name calling and insulting the OP over and over again makes you look no better than him. And honestly it shows some character traits that are less then desirable in a provider. IMO your very first response was sufficent and it should have been left at that. But apparently you felt the need to leave all your other responses talking down to the OP, insulting him and name calling. In my eyes you are no better than him and it definitely made me not want to ever consider meeting you.
Bored hello I am sorry that you came in during this disaster and I apologize for my few statements to the OP you are correct I should have ignored the post that he had up titled BS . Vindictive I'm not but you have that right to decide based on a few words.The responses that were taken down had to be taken down that's how it happens when one post is pulled. But I do find the OP and Tude to be harassing and threatening . I guess I'll know if the gossiping has stopped when I post to visit during the summer if no one wants to meet me I will know it would be due to this story. And if so I guess I'd have to ask if black list is deserving in the matter. If you think that is vindictive
I'd disagree with you.Same thing as if someone took your income away how would you react? I have never thought that a woman would be so punished by a male dominated community for standing up for herself while someone insists on demoting her do you? Because is black list is not the answer can you comment on what is ? Or should he be let loose to continue to degrade other ladies who he may not be able to communicate with in the future? I think he and I should resolve his misunderstanding and call it a day provided he promise to stop the gossiping and intent.
Have a wonderful day and as always never be pressured into reviewing even if it is helpful to your
fellow hobbyist. And never confuse reasonable advise as pressured advise.
Happy Sunday !
Angela
Sad she didn't realize she just lost a client due to her rude remarks.