I remember him well and learned much from the old Jedi master.  His much quoted GFE scale made a lot of sense.

DJ  

Since both Diamond Jim and Wolverine have left us hanging by discussing

but not sharing the scale, here is an excerpt from Saint Bart himself, posted on the Large Woof Woof in 2003.  I cut and pasted so that no link was necessary (violates the rules) and had to use this one because the Saint did not have a better one in his TER postings.

Enjoy:

(start quote from Saint Bart)
It's not generally known outside of Indyland in Florida, but I've retired with Badgirl from the Indyboard, aka Aria of Sophisticata. Since I did it with no fanfare this time, maybe it will stick! I hope so... we're in love and having a great time!

I've pretty much retired from posting too, but since GFE is a subject near and dear to me, and everyone else it seems, let me leave you with a link to the last time I posted a definition... some of the ladies mentioned you'll know as they travel... others are local to South Florida:

I can't get the post to link, so here's the text:

"Since there's a developing use of the Saint Bart Scale here in Indyland... Missy says it's used all over the US (and even Shauna at B de J uses it on her site to describe some of her ladies)... I guess I'd better post (again) its details.

When I first started hobbying 4 years ago, I was dismayed how the term "GFE" was bandied about... some ladies that I dated based on reviews were far, far, from GFE ... the reviewer, I decided afterwards, was simply using the term to say he had a nice time, which is fine.

BUT, and always recognizing YMMV, I never had a GF that didn't DFK, or allow DATY, or give BBBJ. When these 3 acts come with enthusiastic FS, I define the experience as 100% GFE on the Saint Bart Scale. For every item missing, 10% is deducted. I usually don't like to be specific in a review about the acts I enjoyed... it can unnecessairily put a lady "on the spot" with the next hobbyist... "you did ABC for him, so why not me?" That's not fair to her.

So, the SBS has just enough ambiguity to protect her, yet describe my experience. For example, I recently posted a review of Lisa from Eye Candy. She was 70% on the SBS. As I think all know, my ATF Badgirl is 100% on the SBS. Top's Penelope, with me, was 80%GFE, which reflected my YMMV as I've subsequently read others found her to be 90%GFE. IMO, this is usually all the detail required for the reader to get a good idea of the service level, subject to YMMV.

Now, sometimes extras are available that go beyond 100%GFE, and might not be allowed by your civilian GF. The two most common examples are Greek and BBBJTC... actual CIM... to me whether she spits or swallows, it doesn't matter. These are handled in a review with a "+", or "Plus" for each act. Missy, I've written and many have enjoyed, is famous for her Plus ending... so Missy's 100%GFE+ or 100%GFE Plus. The Plus Missy earns is undefined, but all get the picture. Aussie Amber takes it one Plus further, to what I think of as a PSE. She's 100%GFE++ or 100%GFE Plus, Plus. Again, I think one gets the picture, and doesn't need the actual details. I've had rare dates that actually earned as many as 4 Plusses... more were awarded for spending the night "on the house", and for allowing pictures (hear that Nurse??). I suppose they could also be awarded for actions that don't interest me... B&D, or golden showers, etc.

Real GFs have been delivering GFEs since Adam and Eve... I've simply tried to tie it all together to help hobbyists get the info they need without putting ladies on the spot."

Stay well all, and play nicely!

(End Saint Bart Quote)

I'm assuming that this is where the Wonderful Jill gets her website ad qualifier from.









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