I would like to see some of the girls at Room Service Girls.com but they want you to tell them where you work so they can call you for verification.  How stupid is that and who would be stupid enough to do this?  Loose your job to see a provider ... no thanks.  Obviosly there must be some way around this bull shit.  Would someone be kind enough to share what they did?

Verification is not BS, verification is the way it is among providers, agencies and hobbyists who want to stay safe.

If you can't handle it Craig's List is there for you...good luck!

I am so glad to see your responses Camille and BostonGuy!  I haven't been around in a long while, and when I read abolten's post, I wondered if girls had given up their screening procedures!  I am happy to read that that is not the case!

Ladies - and gentlemen - please be careful out there!  And remember:  this is supposed to be fun!

I've never had an issue with RSG. Jill's been around forever and if she were fast and loose with that sort of info, it would have come out long ago.  

That said, if you are uncomfortable giving out that sort of screening information, I don't blame you, but from a practical standpoint, it is best to move on, simply because no agency or Indy is going to change their screening policies (especially in this environment) because of complaints from the johns. I noticed you had some reviews, perhaps a referral or two could work.

-- Modified on 9/13/2008 7:18:15 PM

I have no problem with this level of screening.
I plan to be in Boston (professionally) for a week in early October, and RSG is at the top of my list.

With that attitude you will get no where fast!  There are other ways of screening, but bashing one process because you don't like it will close the door on all other options available!  It makes you sound like you believe the entire verification process is outragious.

-- Modified on 9/13/2008 9:02:28 PM

I know my post agrees with everything else posted (except for abolten), but I have to chime in also about how good RSG is in all ways.

My initial contact with them was a few years ago, but as a rule, they are probably the easiest place to get verified with.   If you are having trouble with them, then I guess all you have seen before is the non-verifiers out there.

But my satisfaction with RSG is because when I call they know me by voice, Know whereabouts I work, and know what type of woman I like.

I think with your attitude Mr. Abolten, you have been put on a couple of DNS lists without even trying.

Work verification is always done very discreetly.  You would not "lose your job" over it.  Jill is very professional, and does not keep any of your sensitive information after you are verified.  It all gets shredded and/or deleted immediately - you have nothing to worry about (except for, as others have mentioned - maybe your attitude)...

You know, that screening process is in place so that the paddy wagon doesn't cart you away from your session.

Then you'd REALLY lose your job.

... while making sure that their women aren't at risk.  This is not an uncommon form of screening, and mostly they just want to make sure that you work where you say you do.  They're not dumb enough to say that they're calling from an escort agency.

The women who work in this profession are considerably more at risk than their clients, so screening is, or should be, standard operating procedures for agencies.  Maybe they should have explained to you how they verify employers, but by the same token, maybe you should have politely asked them to clarify the process for you rather than ranting about it on this board.

And as other posters have pointed out, you can alwasy go elsewhere...

I don't know the ladies of RSG, but if he has seen some of them ladies and has reviewed them, then why would verification need to be redone?

Something smells fishy...

Nice observation Ally!

Jill is very professional and would not put you at risk. Let me tell you what you need to know in terms you will understand... Your additude sucks!!!
Verification is for Our safety as well as yours.
There is noone in this business worth spending time with who will see you on your word alone.

RSG VERY REPUTABLE!! Room Service Girls Certification

I don't think your attitude is bad at all
I think you have valid concerns & no question is ever a bad/wrong question when asked with genuine authenticity...
I've known Jill & was a past RSG girl for years
NOONE has ever lost a job from verification nor from seeing a RSG beauty in their long history of being a great escort service
(I think they've been around 12 yrs now??)
The initial process isn't going to ruin your personal lives darlings!
Good luck in your quest for fun experiences whether it's with an Agency like RSG or with an Independent!
oxoxoxo
Stacy
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-- Modified on 9/14/2008 5:51:03 AM

Seriously, as one who does not play as much as usual, one of if not the BEST agency to deal with is Jill,  So maybe as mentioned in above posts you need to chill and step back a bit along with changing your attitude. Your job will not be put in jeopardy and you will be steered in the right direction with all of her ladies. Sorry to shill yet I LOVE this agency so step back and relax.

You absolutely SHOULD assume they're going to put your personal info at risk, and you're foolish and careless if you don't assume that. After Heidi Fleiss and Deborah Palfrey, plus the hundred similar local stories that weren't covered by national media, every guy ought to know it can happen easily to anyone, whether it's the agency's fault or just bad luck.

And "but RSG is reputable!" is also a stupid argument. Every business is reputable until it crashes. This issue has nothing to do with that, and in fact this issue is bigger than any single agency. I actually do have specific problems with RSG regarding their lack of discretion, but even an agency that's 100% careful and trustworthy can unwittingly put your entire life at risk.

The girls' safety is a valid reason for insisting on verification, and guys' privacy is an equally valid reason for avoiding verification. In the past, both things have happened: girls have been victimized and guys have been compromised. That's what makes this a tough issue. Anyone who doesn't see both sides of the issue isn't thinking clearly.

To stick up for abolten, looking at the dates of his reviews, I think he must have gone to RSG before they asked for employment info.

-- Modified on 9/14/2008 6:22:26 AM

Jill is the only agency owner I have EVER called for a reference who is able to provide one without putting me on hold to search a database or spreadsheet.

She can recall numbers, names and MOs like no one's business.

Having worked with her I just find it extremely hard to believe that he's used the service more than once (as indicated by his reviews, irrespective of their date because if he's reviewing, he's been with the service in their recent years, not pre-TER) that he can't get past screening.

Judging by the fact that he has reviewed RSG girls he probably called, Jill may not have recalled him immediately, and he caught an attitude causing her to stonewall him.

Regardless, it's his damage - not hers.  The burden of proof is on the person who wants the appointment.  Not the service who is clearly, going to keep on truckin' with or without him.

The attitude of frustration in his post was probably the attitude that he expressed on the telephone - any provider or service in their right mind immediately 'shuts down' when callers are clearly agitated and resistant.

-- Modified on 9/14/2008 6:32:07 AM

I have been using RS for at least 10 years.  In the past 5 much more sporadic, every few months.

Just called the other day and Jill would not deal with me until I filled out the sheet.

I explained my situation, that I have seen many of her girls in the past but she did not know my # or my voice.  I have talked to Jill in the past many times but I am not a regular...

So I sent the sheet and she contacted me within 10 minutes and all was good, she thanked me for filling it out and was sorry she had to have me do it...

 Jill is very protective of her girls and I have
no problem with that as it protects me also.

It's simple fill out the sheet or move on, not that hard...

.....But Jill didn't remember me when I called, after not using her service for about a year. So much for the memory thing.

Having said that, Jill can use whatever prescreening she feels comfortable with, and there is little that any of us really have to say, or can do, about it.  Complaining about it isn't going to help.  Either accept it, or move on.

Bro, if you're uncomfortable with this, join a verification service like RS2k, Date Check, Preferred 411 et al. They will more than likely want your employment info too. Crack Hos on the street won't ask you  about your job BTW

RSG has a great reputation and I do ever remember ANYONE losing their job from verification, we providers are VERY discreet and have my verification tricks up our sleeves.  Date-check.com and preferred 411 are also great avenues for verification...and MOST accept it. Insulting peoples intelligence ("How stupid...and who would be stupid...?") usually doesn't get you very far in this business. Good luck in finding a great and reputable provider that accepts little to no verification.

The street girlie's or scary's sure wouldn't ask for any verifications
Oh other than...R U a COP to a prospective 10 second client??!!-LOL to Fuzzy Phallus


-- Modified on 9/14/2008 9:30:51 AM

I disagree.  With an attitude like I have, I will still have a job at the end of the day.  I'm not going to ask Jill to give me her name address and phone number so if I want to I could turn her over to the cops, ruin her business and life forever, so why should she do that to me.  Sorry guys, I still will go with my current view on this.  There is plenty to choose from out there that ask for no verification.  Those providers/agencies that do I think lack practicality of judgement.  I don't think I would want clients who are stupid enough to give out that information.  Sooner or later they will find the percentage who won't do this and how it cuts into their business it just just doesn't make good business sense.  

A smart cop could cut through all of this and bust the operation anyway if they want to, so all this verification nonsense does is but clients like us at risk.  If you can't see this I feel sorry for you because the day will come when something is said that WILL put you at risk and get you fired.  It all that worth a couple screws??  Sorry, jobs are too hard to find these days to risk what you have.

I see this as awfully one sided.  How does this protect me?  I could be giving my information to you and you could be a cop?  How do I know you aren't?  This whole business is based on trust and if someone like Jill is basically saying to you she doesn't believe you, why should I believe her and her girls?  Try to look at this from my perspective.

Re: RSG VERY REPUTABLE!! Room Service Girls Certification

Stacy,

Thanks for you post.  At least someone has the brains to see the risk involved in this verification process.  

What to you use for verification.  If it's something reasonable, I'd like to contact you.

Thanks for taking the time to think about what my situation was instead of hurling accusations at me as others have.  Yes, I have seen Jill's girls before and, if you read the reviews, you'll see I wasn't that satisfied.  I was surprised that she said that I still had to fill out the form even though I've done business with her before.  Like I said before, this business lives and dies on trust.  If Jill is all of the sudden saying she doesn't trust her clients, even though they have already done business with them, she's going to kill the business.  Sure some will give the information, but I think most won't.  Limiting your business to just those clients just doesn't make any business sense.
Like I said, if the cops wanted to bust her they could easily, with or without this crazy verification process.

Thanks!

So for the others who commented about this, let's get our information straight before we start hurling accusations around, shall we?  

As far as Jill is concerned, I think I'll take by business elsewhere.  Someone who doesn't trust me even though I've done business with her before is someone I don't trust, especially with the incriminating information she askes for.  Personally, I think anyone is crazy to give it to her. None of her girls are worth that much of a risk.

"...search a database or spreadsheet."
Doesn't that contradict Arielle_Lace's statement earlier about shredding and deleting sensitive client information?

The post you are responding to is about the agency calling the work place to verify employment. They are not going to call saying "Hi, This is XYZ from Room Service Girls looking for John at ext. 12345"...

Your statement is about the safety of our personal information once it is given to the agency.

Kind of different things in my head.

First off, I would have preferred if you contacted me directly about this, and maybe we could have come to a mutual agreement that would make us both comfortable.

The only reason I ask for employment is for the safety of the ladies, do you really think I would call a place of business and say "Hi my name is Jill and one of your employees would like to use my escort service, can you tell me if he is working there and is he a good guy? Give me a break! All major companies, have a phone directory that you can check without even having to talk to someone. If you do get an operator you simply ask to speak to so and so and they connect you, then you hang up or they will say that you don't work there.

The only time I would ever contact you at work was if you hurt one of the Ladies, I would know where to find you.

I accept preferred 411 if that would make you more comfortable as well as references from well know providers and agencies.

If you called and spoke to me about this, I would have explained this to you privately instead of having to post it on a public message board.

Since you think that verification to keep the ladies safe  is stupid and full of "bull shit" I suggest you find a provider ( perhaps on Craig's List) that does not care about her safety and will see you with no information, as I require it.

Lastly if I was LE as you seem to think, how could I have been in business for the last 13 years and how could all of my girls have reviews from well know hobbiest's? If you really think that I am LE, then I guess you must think everyone on here is as well and this is some kind of conspiracy to get you fired and put in jail, give me a break.

Something does not seem right and is not sitting well with me, with that being said I suggest you find another hobby.


Jill

-- Modified on 9/14/2008 10:48:31 PM

You don't seem to get it. This has nothing to do about LE and everything to do with the ladies safety.  If you  were not satisfied with the service like you say, then why would you even  want to do business with me again?

According to your reviews the last time you used the service was in 2004. Times have changed and verification for the safety of the ladies is now more important than ever.

I get the strange feeling  that I know who you are and there is a lot more to this than your letting on.

Jill

I did not say that Jill does not jot down a name or a number while attempting to verify, destroying it afterward.

It's not rocket science-and Arielle is my friend, but she doesn't run RSG.

I reiterate:  when I call Jill for a reference, its a yay or nay within seconds of me attempting to jog her memory with the way that the client indicates she would remember him-no click, click clicking or putting us on hold so that she can go drumming up files like nearly all other agencies I've contacted.

I'm certainly not knocking the way most agencies are run BUT I am saying that Jill's ability to recall most (out of what, thousands?  Of course there are exceptions) is uncanny and comforting.






-- Modified on 9/14/2008 11:16:34 PM

AS if this thread need any further additions. I called Jill last week and went through the verification process. I didn't have any difficulty. It might be the quality of the references that you supplied.

If there is one thing that I have learned since I started hobbying, that is the verification process is all over the board. Many ladies and agencies are selective as to who they will accept as a reference and who they won't.

There is nothing you can do about it, you just have to keep plugging away.

Jill knows who he is, and all his personal info (including his job)--- that's why he's so crazy about having to give out job info-- he can't get an appointment UTR at RSG.  Jackass.

BTW, there are MANY of us that know all about this guy including his real name, alma mater,birth date, job, license plate #, address etc. If he continues to threaten Jill he may find life difficult.  lol

What no one can figure out is WHY this fucktard has such a hard on for Jill, and RSG? He still wants to use the agency UTR, but trashes them and Jill every chance he gets.

Happy Hobbying!
Fuzzy




-- Modified on 9/16/2008 9:39:44 AM

Stacy, don't contact this asshole.

who do you think is going to see you on just your word? By Our reviews thats the proof we have as to who we are. You protest too much and that in itself tells me volumes. Find a new hobby is all.

many men have been screened thru RSG plus any other agency and  all the Indies. For the most part no worries. If you want to play here you need to be verified and you need to get over that. It will not change because you don't like it. We all seek to feel secure, our reviews give you that security, we expect the same.
If this whole process is too difficult for you, or you feel its too over the top, go pick someone up in a bar.
No guarantees there though...

-- Modified on 9/15/2008 7:12:08 AM

I am a very occasional hobbyist and have used Jill mant times for many years. So when she changed her policy last year I was afraid she wouldn't remember me. But she did. I had a quick email exchange with her a few laughs and I was off and rolling.

Jill is great she provides a great value and honest descriptions

Most evident is the amount of respect that some of the indys that worked for her have for her.

You want full anonimity use craigs list. It won't take long before your name shows up in the newspaper

Just my choice as I have outlined before.  There are plenty of ladies who see fewer clients per day and can verify in other ways.

Some of us here were again the recipient of mass "cc" emails (that were supposed to be "bcc") a few weeks ago from an escort who says "no personal recs kept, just a coded #."  Well, it was nice to see that I'm snuggling with the same girl as two guys at Harvard and once political consultant from a northern state. Yes, the names were included.

Beware gentlemen.  Records are kept and someday you may regret it.

-- Modified on 9/17/2008 2:43:44 AM