I was very disturbed by a review I had just read. It was for one of my new girls Rebecca. The reviewer said that he gave her 2 10" but TER downgraded them to 7's. Why is that? I thought reviews were based on the clients thoughts and not what TER thinks. I understand if reviews are inconsistant, like all 10's and then a 2, but I do not understand downgrading a review if it is the very 1st one and TER has nothing to compare it to. If TER is going to downgrade because in the guidelines it said only girls who speak greek, do facials, bbbjtc can be rated 10" then why diddn't they downgrade it 9? why 7? And I woulld like to know why only girls who do all the aboved mentioned can be a 10?
That is not right to me. Reviews are supposed to be based on the experience the client had. Did the TER administration do the date? Some people do not want the PSE experience and they get chastised for that? I always thought TER was fair but now I guess I know better.

Jill

Jill, I think your point about the criteria is right on. The learning from this may suggest there is some value in revisiting the criteria for ranking. I can see that someone, myself included, can say wow that was a 10, but it does not benefit the other TER clients if they do not have some idea as to what a 10 represented to me. I have wanted to give 10's, but did not because of the criteria for a 10.  I would not find TER as appealing as it is if every customer were given the freedom to use whatever rating criteria they thought a 10 was. In that respect I think that TER moderator does play an important role. I feel bad for the young lady that had her numbers lowered, but it may be the price we pay to have standards that we can depend on. If there were no criteria for each number and I wanted to see a provider again for whatever reason I would feel compelled to give her 10's for fear of her being upset. I don't worry about that today. If she did not provide what the 10 required she is mad at TER, NOT me. Personally I would rather it that way.

The TER rules limit the performance rating to a 7 if the provider does not offer any of the "extras" listed. It's been that way as long as I can remember. Given that Rebecca (apparently) does not offer these extras, a 7 is essentially a perfect score. This is a GOOD thing, Jill! Besides, the 10 for appearance was not downgraded.

It may not be fair, but it would be more unfair to change the guidelines now.

Point #7 in TER's Review Posting Guidelines reads

In order to keep our performance ratings consistent, we set up the following system: An escort provider may only earn up to a 7, unless she also performs the following during a session: Kisses With Tongue, Bare-Back Blow Job, Really Bi, Anal Sex, or More than One Guy. The addition of each offering will raise her score by one point. If your review doesn’t already accurately reflect this rating system, we will adjust it.

Simply put, in order to get a performance score above 7, a provider must offer any of the additional services listed. Based on the review in question, it appears that Rebecca's grade was correct. Even the reviewer expected the performance score to be downgraded.

thirsty

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I still do not agree but I now understand. The sad thing is alot of people only have a basic membership and they just look at the numbers. It is a shame because I think that will hurt her but rules are rules.
Jill

Just my 2ct. I have basic membership and this is what I saw. Once in a lifetime, Hot time 10 for appearance. That sounds like a winner to me....

If the reviews are downgraded automatically depending on the session activities, why do I see reviews with P-scores of 8 and 9 when none of the above are present?

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From what I have seen, they just don't have the manpower to monitor all the reviews coming in.

In the few reviews that I have written, I have had ongoing disagreements with the "review reviewers".

1. I've had a 10 performance changed on me, saying a provider could only get up to a 9, yet she had other prior reviews rating 10's.

2. I've had a second review of a provider refused, but I can find a dozen different instances where a member has reviewed the same girl more than once.

It is unfortunate that for a provider to be rated a "10" they have to be what the board rules define as a "10". I have very limited interest in Greek. The thought of a "really-bi" provider does nothing for me. The thought of a second guy makes me shrivel sitting here. Yet in order to be MY perfect "10" TER requires these attributes.

What seperated the girl I rated a "10" over the girls that I scored a little less was the FUN that was involved. We laughed, and joked, and had a great time...on more than one occasion, no sex was involved, but that was MY choice as she did her part to be the "10" that I wanted.

I understand the need to standardize to a certain degree, but it does take some of the personality out of the reviews.

v

The honest answer is that reviews aren't always automatically downgraded. The reviewers occasionally miss some things. That's why members are encouraged to submit Problem Reports (and in fact rewarded with 2 days VIP time upon acceptance of the PR). Quite a few TER members maintain their VIP status by submitting (15) PR's each month. This is TER's version of checks and balances.

thirsty

I may be interpreting this section of the Review Guidelines wrong but this is how I've always understood it.

The best performance rating a lady can achieve is a 7 unless she offers 3-5 of the following.

Kisses With Tongue, Bare-Back Blow Job, Really Bi, Anal Sex, or More than One Guy.

As you say, you're not into Greek. My understanding is that, as long as these services are available, the lady can earn a higher performance rating.

In this particular case, this was Rebecca's first review. This reviewer created her profile so, he in effect told us that Rebecca offered light kissing, cbj and so on. A provider with a larger review history may offer a certain reviewer light kissing and cbj. If she has a history of expanded service for other reviewers, she can earn a higher score even in situations where she offered less. In this case, Rebecca has one review, there were in this one instance a number of rules applied. Perhaps this was a YMMV case. Rebecca has to acquire a larger review history before we'll know for sure.

thirsty

When I do a search I expect to see extra's from tens. When I first started "hobbying" I might have been a bit generous with reviews as perhaps this gentlemen was.

it should be more difficult to earn a ten here than it is in the Olympics!

thirsty

But not, apparently, if your on the French Bi-Athlon team at the Greek Olympics...

If you rate a session a 10 because the session included two girl action, lick pussy, multi pops, and CIM while not being rushed, the best score you can give is a 7.  Nice huh.

I bitched about this in the "Suggestion and Policy Discussion Board", but nobody cares.  I think the system is a joke to be honest.  Jill, we can’t accurately rate a “performance”.  We need to be able to give a score on the actual performance of what performed, not just have a score based on what was offered regardless of how bad it was, but I guess thats just me.

reviewers state their level of satisfaction with the provider's performance and that should be enough.  If someone is happy with a great CBJ, then a 10 is fair.  HOw about giving 10s only when the price is less than 300, or better, 100?  What a provider allows in terms of contact and repertoire is covered in the middle section of the review.  How she does it, vigor, intensity, personality, enjoyment, arousal, etc.  is described, in the reviewer's opinion, as Performance.  Most girls don't deserve tens, but not because they don't do greek, etc.,..it's because the effort and rest of the experience doesn't warrant it.
Reviews should be downgraded or upgraded if the number score is inconsistent with the description of the experience..."had a great time with a wonderful gal" should not get a 2 and "she obviously wanted to be somewhere else" should not get a 10.

I have been noticing a lot of disparity between the high ratings given to certain providers Vs. what was described as their performance of services.  It almost looks like the reviewers either don't know the TER's review policies or chose to ignore those policies when writing the reviews.  

I am coming to conclusion that TER should start offering a two tier rating system where the reviewer would assign whetever rating number they feel like based on their own experience, but must also assign a separate rating number based on TER's policies.

To take hothotdog33's point one step further, why not have a performance rating (which is up to the reviewer) and a seperate GFE Ranking which could be set by TER based on the session details?

The performance grades have descriptions included with them so how can anyone tell a reviewer that a session was not "once in a lifetime", because a certain activity, that may not even have been wanted, was not available?

I like your idea.  Now we need to convince the TER staff so that they can revise their databases to include an additional category.

you're welcome to post a better idea on the Suggestions and Policy board.

I don't think you'll ever find a review system that will make everybody happy. It's been stated in this thread and in countless threads across the TER boards OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN! The ratings system exists in its current form in order to have some degree of consistency. Many people (especially the ladies) don't like the "juicy details" requirement. I understand their point of view. From my perspective, at least there is potentially useful information here. I got tired of reading long winded reviews on other sites that tell the reader nothing except the fact that the review author thinks he can write.

As I wrote, if you come up with a better idea or even a small tweak to the current review system, share it with the entire TER community by posting it on the S&P board. Just don't expect wholesale changes.

thirsty

If you think they are so unfair, you should expend the capital necessary to set up and publicize your own review website and you and others who think subjectivity is the name of the game can all use the new site. Until then, we should all follow the rules as they are. Why bother with a numerical rating if they aren't grounded in specific requirements for performance. I think this sort of shakeup is overdue. To not crackdown just encourages all the shills, sycophants and kiss-ups trying to win favor with the bottom echelon of agencies. Top level agencies don't worry about this stuff because their girls' performances are reviewed by the few reviewers who don't have to be taken with a grain of salt and their ratings reflect real life excellence.

The review inflation phenomenon is why I pay for my VIP membership now rather than submitting reviews. If this is a sign of the new policy of TER, then I may have to reconsider!