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It happened to me with Jasmine Fine in November.  I was very disappointed as well.

I was stood up by Raynah this evening.  Very disappointing.  Has this ever happened to you?

Admittedly, I am a sometimes a late date. Guilty as charged. Surely you've never been late for anything a day in your life, thus your lack of compassion and understanding. Well, for the rest of us, occasionally life gets in the way of a pre-set schedule. My sincere and profuse apologies if its occurred between us...

It happened to me with Jasmine Fine in November.  I was very disappointed as well.

Jasmine Fine didn't exactly stand me up, but she sent me a last minute e-mail telling me that she was retiring!!  Imagine my shock to find her back on the boards a week or two later.  Needless to say, her name got crossed off my list.

curtisI2787 reads

even with the supposedly higher end providers (not necessarily those who charge higher, but those who have good reviews and an air of reliability)...I've had several instances, even with those I have seen many times.

I had a recent NCNS from a local provider just before the holiday who is a regular on this board, and who I've seen a couple of times.  Later in the day she offered a tepid apology and maybe some extra time next session.  I'll see if she follows thru as I will not mention it to her again, and of course do not anticipate another NCNS.  

I applaud you for outing her, but I would have given her a day or two perhaps explain her situation.  Shit always happens, for personal, family, illness, etc...reasons.  

For the providers and hobbyists alike who NCNS for whatever reason, however valid, I think it is tough for the one being left high and dry not to get at least a cancellation call, even at the appointed hour, as a courtesy.  I find it hard to believe you are so sick or have an emergency short of being in a terrible accident that you can't call even 10 minutes prior.  Then again, I've always been more "customer" oriented.

maybe you should be a "provider."

If not you could be a call handler.

there are always opportunities in any business model for employees with good customer skills.

RAYNAH LET ME KNOW YESTERDAY SHE WAS IN ER WITH A KNEE INJURY THAT TOOK HOURS TO LOOK AT, AND WAS IN AN AREA WHERE PHONES FORBIDDEN.     i KNOW HER AND THAT KNEE HAS BEEN A PROBLEM....i OFFERED HER LACE KNEE PADS RECENTLY........WONT DETER ME   SHE IS SMOKIN"

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Alias used because she has my personal info....

So what excuse did she give you?

I was NCNS'd by Raynah on an outcall after I had already obtained a hotel room.  Fortunately I was ablt to find a last minute replacement.

Needless to say I will never be darkening her door.

Déjàvu2142 reads

I too have been stood up by her recently. There its no doubt she is probably one of the hottest ladies in the area, and she is quite great when she doesn't NCNS, but a quick search on the board will come up with few threads about her in the near past. It's a habit/attitude issue more than a legitimate emergency imho.

I was talking to another hobbiest at a recent M&G she was attending. She is definitely hot as f#ck, but you can smell the attitude from miles away. Such a shame, but she is definitely off my list. I just refuse to let a pussy, no matter how good it might be, make a fool out of me twice, especially when I'm paying for it!

Using an alias for obvious reasons.

Posted By: Charlie101
I was stood up by Raynah this evening.  Very disappointing.  Has this ever happened to you?

#1.) Charlie101 neglected to mention that I tried to email him SEVERAL times prior to our missed appointment, and had no luck doing so- and eventually got through and was profusely apologetic- Well, now he's done my reputation damage for no valid reason. Thanks Buddy.
#2.) Anyone who has ever had the pleasure of my company (especially regulars) will shout loud and clear, I have ZERO attitude, and am paridoxically one of the most sweet, attentive providers you can hope to find, (the poster who said you could "see my attitude from a mile away"- thats is confidence, not attitude. And you NEVER even took the time to SPEAK to me, so the pre-concieved notion that I have "an attitude" is absolute trash. Ask someone who has actually MET me.)
3.) I am admittedly not the most punctual or organized young lady in the world-  well, you try being a 1 woman show, fielding calls, booking, driving yourself all around creation, and still showing up sparkling and smiling. All in all, I manage to do a damn good job, and this bandwagon, burn-her-at-the-stake mentality is totally out of line. I care very much about my clients, and have never waved away an appointment intentionally saying "screw him", which is the implication of this thread.
4.) Find out for yourself, don't let these few negative experiences of others dampen our potential pleasure.
5.) I wish to make it known,  that after years of successful providing, if all you bring up in a search is 3 or 4 complaints, I am doing an excellent job. Did you neglect to realize that a 9 review average spanning a 4 year time period couldn't possibly exist if I was so lax and careless? Honestly, It hurt to read such spiteful things written about me, but the problem isn't mine, its yours. If I make a mistake, call me on it, thats fine, its expected. Just know,  I  do try my HARDEST, DO MY VERY BEST to keep everyone happy, and thats chasing an impossible goal from the start. There will inevitably nay-sayers to try and thwart my genuine efforts to bring pleasure and happiness and fulfillment to your life. Don't buy into the hype. I am truly sorry to anyone whom I may've offended or put off by my lack of timeliness, but remember, its one hour to you, its my life to me. Your words are intended to hurt my business, but do you really realize that you are literally taking food out of my mouth with your insults? I have no problem admitting my shortcomings and mistakes, (hey- nobody's perfect) but that pales in comparison to the joy and satisfaction I bring, so those who speak against me, realize the damage you're causing my life compared to what I "did" to you.

Appreciatively Yours,
Raynah



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You are bringing up something that you were not even involved in from almost a year ago- seriously?
Its quite a stretch- and  that post, though poorly worded, was intended to encourage those with "With Issue"  to contact Me directly - not haphazardly  slather insulting commentary about the boards. Thanks for your research though.


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Flag_on_the_Play2061 reads

The posters here are just a smattering of the guys you've hosed over the last couple years.

Taking food from your mouth?  How many guys have you stuck witgh hotel rooms?

Sweetheart,
We've never seen each other, but I plan to change that in the future!
Maybe you should think about getting a screener that can handle all of the administrative stuff for you.
Just a thought.

And anyone who sees women as simply "a pussy", I am thrilled to have missed our appointment.

Déjàvu2335 reads

Here is my problem Raynah.

For me, a NCNS is the ultimate disrespect of me and my time, no matter who the lady is, especially when the excuse I got the next day was not convincing. If you flip the roles, I'm pretty sure if the guy was the one to NCNS, he would be blacklisted and placed on DNS list s no matter how much good history he has. Just saying, our time is as important as yours, and we too feel pissed off when we get the impression that we are being disrespected.

Now for my other comment, it wasn't really directed at you -- it was more like a general comment.  It is a translation of a saying in my mother language, which I admit, sounds offensive in English. I guess it is better stated as don't be a fool by letting the little head make your decisions.

But, please remember, respect is a two way street.

Sir,
If your doctor or lawyer or massuese has to reschedule/cancel an appointment- do you also harp on them not having a "convincing excuse"?  Is it your place to know why they cancelled? Point being, you are holding providers to an unfair standard, we are in the service industry just like the aforementioned professionals. We deserve our privacy just the same- if we are gracious enough to inform you of a necessary cancellation or rescheduling, why must u know and accept the reason? Respect IS a 2 way street- and clearly, (no offense) you're on the sidewalk Buddy.
yours,
Ray

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Déjàvu1258 reads

Posted By: Raynah
Sir,
If your doctor or lawyer or massuese has to reschedule/cancel an appointment- do you also harp on them not having a "convincing excuse"?  Is it your place to know why they cancelled? Point being, you are holding providers to an unfair standard, we are in the service industry just like the aforementioned professionals. We deserve our privacy just the same- if we are gracious enough to inform you of a necessary cancellation or rescheduling, why must u know and accept the reason? Respect IS a 2 way street- and clearly, (no offense) you're on the sidewalk Buddy.
yours,
Ray

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Posted By: Charlie101
I was stood up by Raynah this evening.  Very disappointing.  Has this ever happened to you?
It’s really unfortunate that this thread contains so such anger and such a vindictive tone.  But the fact is, this isn’t the only thread in the past four years discussing Raynah’s well-documented tardiness.  But to hear Raynah defend herself here is like the height of hypocrisy.  

First of all NCNS is just that, you didn’t call, you didn’t show, PERIOD.  In this day and age where cell phones and smart phones can deliver a text, a voice mail message or email instantly virtually anywhere in the world, it is simply unacceptable for hours or a days to pass before contact is made or explanations offered.   A half-baked attempt to contact the client a day or two later is not acceptable.  Once is too much and to say in essence “shit happens” is an example of someone living in complete denial.

Second, and as someone pointed out above, if the client NCNS, the consequences for gentlemen are so much worse.  No matter what kind of explanation is offered, NCNS by a client can follow them for months or years.  Their name is posted on provider boards and DNS lists nationwide.  

One can find dozens of provider web sites where the Lady states very clearly, “If you NCNS you will never get another chance.”   Why is it that the standard for clients is set so much higher than what some providers are held to?  Is it simply because the Provider has the pussy and the men want it and will look the other way to get it?  That’s sad if true, and says something pretty pathetic about men.

Inconsiderate behavior doesn’t change unless the perpetrator is forced to deal with the consequences.   For men, showing up on a NCNS or DNS site will usually cure rude behavior rather quickly.  

If the white nights are going rationalize and make excuses for a providers inconsistent behavior because she is good in the sack, then nothing will change.  
If clients are going continue to patronize these ladies who don’t care or show any respect for your time or commitments, then the ladies are going to continue to do it.  Why you say?  Because they can, and no one calls them on it.  

And yes, that is the epitome of “attitude”.  

Confidence is when someone is self-assured, poised and self-reliant.  Attitude is a way of behavior where you give off the vibe, “Fuck You, my shit doesn’t stink and if you don’t like it, shove it.”   That’s what the men in this thread are saying.  Raynah’s attitude “is” part of the problem, she does not care if a client is inconvenienced .

This is a site where clients review the appearance and performance of providers offering their services to men.   It is completely within bounds for men who have been NCNS to call it out and tell it like it is.  If she wants the problem to go away, she needs to change the behavior that brings this problem to her doorstep.   Raynah certainly has the body, the tools and reviews to sustain a successful business.  Why does she have to show such utter contempt and disrespect to the men who want to patronize her?


It is laced with innuendos and veiled threats.  I will have no part of it.  Have a happy and safe hobbying experience.

You.Cant.Be.Serious1315 reads

So this thread, one that YOU started, is why you joined other boards?
You "will have no part of it"?!?

So let's get this straight. You'll have a part of this place when you don't know shit about someone and want to seek the advice of others, then thank them for saving you money.
You'll have a part of this place when you want to make a comment about something that happened to you.
But when a thread that you started takes a turn you don't personally care for, all of a sudden you want to claim some kind of moral high road??
That's the height of laughable.

While this thread may have exposed quite a bit about someone else, it DEFINITELY exposed quite a bit about you as well.
Hopefully the members here will remember that the next time you ask for help or advice.

I decided to stay in b/c of the storm. Thought I'd be bored out of my mind, but then I came across this thread that simply made my evening. Its' entertaining, informative and simply laughable.

Raynah is not the only choice in town. I've met her at the M&G and she's certainly entertaining. But you have to remember this is a different service industry all together. Raynah is not an attorney, accountant or a doctor. She's here to provide you with the simplest of enjoyment and satisfaction.

That's why we tolerate the bad for the good. I've got no opinion either way other than I'd like to see her.

No snow please if the weather gods are taking requests.

Move_On1563 reads

Well said YCBS.
Am a lil confused as he reviewed Raynah Dec 2010 here and now this issue on her shortly after? AND he is posting again above all this. I do have the correct moniker?
Guess I know who's posts to ignore.

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the fact that her respect for the men she's SCHEDULED to see have no hierarchy in her supposed schedule.

She schedules with apparent impunity.  When she NCNS'd me the first time, I called her and she was very sweet and apologetic; she promised she'd make it up to me.

She did.

She NCNS'd me a SECOND time (both times I'd driven hours to see her and secured the hotel, at my cost).

That was the "I'll make it up to you, I promise..." She stiffed me again.  And for the record, I've got fifteen Whitelists to my reputation...

Then....I saw the post I referenced earlier (which I post again) in which MANY men were discouraged about her NCNS activities.  I had thought I was an anomaly, but apparently I wasn't.

If FIVE guys complain on TER, really, how many guys has she NCNS'd?

This woman's responses to these threads tells the tale of the tape:

"Honestly, It hurt to read such spiteful things written about me, but the problem isn't mine, its yours."

If you're a Wk in this thread, good luck with your Raynah date...I gave up long ago...

Having had the uncomfortable experience of a NCNS twice, one actually being me knocking on the door after getting the room and the girl pretending she wasnt there, was not only frustrating but awkward.

But I learned that dwelling on it is useless. Its happened before, it will happen again to people and seems to be an unfortunate part of the past time. And it happens to both providers and customers. Im sure much on them can be avoided bu sometimes shit happens. With the girls i understand the outrage with a guy NCNS as they are working and it costs them money. For guys, it just sucks, your left standing with s wad of cash in one hand and well we know what's in the other.

But out of this thread I seem to want to see Raynah more. She really seems worth the effort and risk. Everyone says she is extremely hot, and not a single coplaint when they do meet. I also commend her for defending herself. I'm not ripping the guys for trashing her, that's thier right. But getting some time with the hot chick with the a bit of the hot chick attitude is they name of the game for this hobby, at least for me.

I will definitely try to hook up with Raynah if she's doing incall soon


I have experienced both a really hot session w/ Raynah (I wrote a review) and have also experienced Raynah cancelling multiple times before we did actually hook up.   But she did call, text, actually – I was already at the location but it was an outcall and it was Raynah who was to be responsible for the room.  Multiple scheduling attempts fell thru but I don't recall ever being stood up

I’ve had this happen with other providers as well.  And with providers nowhere near as nice- or as hot- as Raynah.   Like a prev poster said : Stuff happens.    No one likes it and it must happen on the provider’s side as well.    
Agreed, NCNS sucks when it happens to you.  Cancellations suck too.
And it happens: a hazard of the hobby
Thanks for your post.  To avoid getting angry when this happens, I use the reviews to help navigate this hazard – I either have a plan b if I have good reason to believe the meet might not happen (like, from reading the reviews for example…) or call someone or some agency I know to be reputable.  That is the best value of TER, although there are other  benefits
I find her attitude is more of a spunky young woman than of a prima donna, but I have never been stuck with a hotel room.   My only loss was that I now had a free hour or so of time and that I was all horned up from thinking about having an entertaining encounter.   So, I called a reliable service a found someone available nearby and booked for 30 minutes.  Saved money, too.
I have a number of good friends who are often late, and occasionally don’t show up.  I get pissed because they should have better respect for my time.  But I’ll see them again and I think I will likely see Raynah again if our schedules match.  
Of course, you (the OP as well as all of us hobbyists), may do what you choose to with your time and hard earned money as well.

all this talk about Raynah has made me real horny,and for the record she is one hot babe.

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