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chipnputt 2019 reads
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Like with anything else a little common sense goes a long way.

I have no interest seeing and/or hanging out with anyone who can't or won't express their opinion whether it's a touchy subject or not. In stating an opinion one does not have to take it to the extreme where they offend who ever is around. Whitney just took it to the extreme. I have never met Whitney (although I certainly hope to at some point)  and wouldn't presume to speak for her but I'm guessing she's not always that blatant and outspoken without being provoked. That rant was so entertaining however it might be worth provoking her on purpose - just kidding Whitney.

When it comes to politics I am pretty conservative and have very little use or patience for liberals - very little. With that being said a lot of liberals are very nice people. A lot of liberal women are very good looking. Altough I'm always happy to state and defend my opinions I try to do so in a diplomatic and respectful manner. Although I've been known to go overboard I try to avoid it.

So in short I think a little spirited discussion between the first and second pop is a great thing as long as it doesn't end up in hotel security showing up at the door.

Your thoughts if any..

You post your schedule
You pay a photographer
You pay for a hotel room
Pay for an Eros ad
Time and money trying to build a following and then you post an opinion that is controversial or defend a poster you like that's paid you or slam a guy or another provider you don't like and immediately alienate those that do like him or her.

Never ceases to amaze me how providers put their precious view above their real reason for being here.

I saw this on manta " the small business website"  thought it was interesting advice for some of the lady's  

My $0.02

Keep Your (Controversial) Opinions to Yourself
You're a smart, unique and interesting person who probably has strong views on many important topics. But that doesn't mean you should talk about them with your customers, prospects or partners. You never know how your opinions will be received – or perceived. In general, it's still good business to avoid talking about religion, politics and moral beliefs. You don't have to compromise yourself, but why alienate a business relationship?

Weigh in: What topics do you avoid when speaking to your audience?

Want more? Can You Be Authentic and Grow a Business?

They are interesting and fun to get to know.

I agree an always negative vibe is not interesting.  Love the ups and downs.!!

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Papi and Charlie, should be completely ashamed of yourselves.  I am not believing your blatant disrespect for women, or as you two seem to feel, "walking holes with legs for us to cum in".  This is a hobby.  This is supposed to be a pleasurable experience.  What female in her right mind is going to read your opinion, or lack thereof, and feel good about having your dick inside them?

I agree that other providers' name should never be brought up, as well as other hobbyists, but politics, religion, YOUR MARRIAGE, etc... does get brought up in the course of the conversation between your hole usage.

If we were cunts like this, we'd ask your asses to come in, put the money on the dresser, shoot your load, and get the fuck out without a word.  You two both frequent girls who offer girlfriend experiences, expecting your shit to be heard.  What makes you different  Buy a blowup doll if you'd rather not be fucking a regular person who has an actual brain and mouth, or maybe stick with mute prostitutes.  

For most of us, this is not just a business, just as you carry on conversations with your florist, butcher, and anyone else in the service industry, you will also be 'forced' to talk to your cum dumpster unfortunately. I do not want a guy who is just looking for a hole to fill.  So I hope to God my opinions I voice will weed out fools who actually share your shitty, miserable views as men.  Some of us take pride in what we do.  

I am not perfect and attack away at whatever thing you want to personally from me. I have fat rolls, I've stood up a guy or two over the years, what the fuck ever.  One thing I can say I have that neither of you do, is a respect for my colleagues and clients.

You are on the wrong website.  On a freakin 'discussion board", where the SOLE PURPOSE is to share opinions and stories.  What a complete crock of shit.  

I only hope any other girl out there can read this and never want your cocks inside them.  I know I'd never fuck a dude who I knew blantantly disrespected women, regardless of profession.

So, until you can bend the fuck over and suck YOUR OWN dicks, maybe you should keep your backwoods, 1950s, ranian, 'women belong in the kitchen and shouldn't  speak until spoken to' bullshit to yourselves.

The exact same way you think we're alienating our 'business' by giving our opinions, you're doing the EXACT SAME THING with this type of post.

Cheers.

Whit

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While a lot of guys are thick skinned enough to stand up to an opinion or two they disagree with, there are  many more who aren't, and the result is that a gal could needlessly hurt her pocketbook on account of a careless comment.

I enjoy discussing religion, politics and even the third rail of sports with anyone, and not hold it against them; but even with that said, I know one time I got so turned off by a provider's opinions about something that I made a mental note not to see them again, despite having a very good session with them.

It may be less than an ideal state of affairs, but that's the way the world works.

I'm in a business myself, and many is the time I'd love to give some customer what-for about something, but I have to hold my tongue.

As my mentor once told me:  If you want a job where you can tell people off, go be a judge.

is there a specific instance he was referring to? i just get a little upset i guess when i feel like guys are disrespecting women in such a manner. as i was saying, some topics obviously should be avoided.  some girls and guys talk about the craziest things.

i specifically won't accept a future appointment request from guys who drop names of other providers during appointments so i completely understand.  i guess i was just shocked at the way 2 grown men seem to view the same women they want to have sex with as holes to be used and nothing more.

my apologies if i've overstepped, if you know me, you know i don't like trouble and drama.  i just felt, as a provider, completely disrespected over those posts.  

some of us have no tact in conversation. i completely understand that. i just rarely encounter that so i guess i don't realize what a huge problem it is?

who knows.

i was just waiting for my champagne to chill and thought i'd look at the boards. i guess i was just shocked. honestly.

I am curious though. what is the proper response on a fully interactive opinion/story board?  Because I'm the one who collects money, I should just read these things and not reply for fear of stepping on toes? I respect myself way more than I desire to get a few hundred bucks.

ww

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Seriously.  

Generally the guys who come to see you a bunch of times (I can say from experience) are there for everything you provide. I'm sure I could find a street corner where I could get a $40 head job, but where's the excitement in that? I would MUCH rather spend a few minutes hanging out & listening to music, get down to business, and spend some time talking and bullshitting after the fact. Who wouldn't want that? And I'd like to think I can tell when a person's being less than honest.  

If he's offended, fuck 'em. You do well for a reason: and it's the opposite of what's being said here.

I on the other hand, contrary to fisher papi dog and i forget the third one that chimed in on thier business advice, totally mathematical left brained logical thinking, type stuff, great advice for some one whom worships money. i for one dont care about money, and never had, i do not let money lack ther of or lack of run my life and its not a great concern to me, the less i care seems the more have.  
   i need money to live and i appreciate nice things, but i find the poorer i am the more "rich " I am, i dont mean rich as in 3 thousand dollar perfect fake tits, thousand dollar hair extendions, tummy tucks, expensive tours, and multiple dicks in my couchy every day, all to buy some louie vutton bag i can pose next too with my fake grin on my hooker web site.  
          no offense to the high rollers n movers n shakers,  
thats just not me,
 every month i am always late on rent, i finagle cool things here n again, like yay that barter with the handsome italian guy and the white matble floor renovations.
     i come to realize i will never be "rich" in a sense some of the ladies her are or hobbyist.  
   I d rather shut the phones off and go hand with a hot older italian construction worker from severe mass for the weekend and not make any money and just have fun for my weekend.  
   or cook or garden {i have twelev pumpkins growin on my porch"
   all last week on my end i had three appts one was 900- one was 500 one was 400 and help w errands and a 200 dollar gift bag of expensive chocolate and fancy gifts,
  i dont handle the hotel and rushn guy after guy in and out, i dont think any one with a severe anxiety disorder or bipo,lar should even attempt to swing some the shit the gals on here manage and i dont know how in gods name they do it.
    I havent ever met papidog or charlie, and wont because they arent lookin for the kind of service i provide, if i dont like you, or your being mean,  
you will not get a refund and u can suit and listen to me talk the whole hour, no, really, ...
   this has happend well once last week the man whom sought out the rough bj?
well i met w him and he had the balls to repeatedly try n put pressure on my adams apple,.
   he also said he thought we d actually do a full 60 min of non stop gagging n rough stuff that would injure any one for that long, in the speed and roughness we weere goin at, any one, i dont giove a fuck how string you are this would injure some one if u did that for an hour, yet he argued well u said u wanted too.  
i explained we can take a break talk maybe he d like a massage, he also got angree n said u seem like u r pullin away when i try and smash you jhead down to gag you, it was and hurt the back my throat really badly, and my neck too.  
  i told him thats because i am ttrying to breath too you know. i endeared 25 min of this . he didnt want sex, didnt want massage, and his dick went limp the mionute the murderous style serial killeresque violent ness would cease for two min, he d go limp! i thought this guy is a sick fuck n cant even get  a hard on unless he is hurting some one badly,  
i told him who exactly have u done this with then thats on ter? because no one is gonna do that that hard for 60 min, for 300, you will injure some one first of all, again as whitney said these women have spinal cords nerve endings and muscle tissue , you cant humanly do that to any human for a full hour with out landin them in e.r.  
    he avoided the question and said i dont wanna talk about that i am here to see you, i said you are cheap. you are mean, .
i dont care if he had 300 for methats how i felt n it was my opinion, i dxo not care about not makn much more than my rent n food and one cell phone bill per month.  
not every one needs to be rich, some us are just happy to have a apt, food, shelter and maybe a pet.
i even to budget myself disconnected cable internet , do my own waxing and nails and use public transportation, i will never haVE A PAIR OF CHRISTIAN LOUBITINS OR BREATS IMPLANTS,
 i did find some one i jived with for the bathroom white marble renovation barter but i truly liked him, and it wasnt work, i didnt have to be some one else or act all wine n roses, he knew i struglle he helped me with errands, not every one is in this to become the pretiest and the richest,
some of us like myself have alot of real huiman things goin on and may be here because we are unabale to hiold jobs and or have things you may not consider since you dont think of us as humans with feelings and maybe have struggle and maybeits not a gamne and a glamour to us but maybe some of us are very grateful for the clients that come n we jive with n stay long times with,  
   i personally think the hobbyist, alot of which are socially inept and this is why they see escorts,  
they probly are rich with good business senses and wealthy with little to know street smarts or life experience or compassion.  
  that is my opinion, for what its worht, i wouldnt take papi dogs advice because i think myadvice to him is...."never worship money. " you need monehy to live but dont ever let it rule your life,.
money is just fuckn money and the less of it i have the happier i notice i am,  
you can be rich, and have no money! but your advice speaks volumes for where your values lie,  
maybe m,y advice to you would be to take some days off work and spend more time with your friends n family and maybe less giving hookers advice on how to get rich quick, most arent tryn to get rich many are students n need some food money, many are single moms n need that electric bill paid,
some are struglling with mental health subtance abuse alcoholism, abusive relationships, its alot more complex than, stay quiet and make as much as you can,  
   it should be do what works for you, make as little as as much as you wish,  
and try and enjoy life and the people whom are around you that are positive influences and bring joy to your life and make you laugh.
i hung with a guy i met thru my escort for 5 hours for 500 last week, we lost track a time, we didnt have an awful lotta sex, that was not important, we laughed our asses off, ! he was funniest guy i ever seen, street smart and a fuckn riot too boot. i may make more with a pse seeking mogiule from walltreet , but i may also not have much fun, this guy was as always i get along with sontractors construction workers vefore the others, paper pushers n computer guys, desk job folks.  
   i waxed his back we had lunch on beach, we talked alot, i washed his hair in a bath slow and nice  and lovingly, i gave him a long massage, could i have made more in that 5 hours doin 4 pse hour apptsinstead yes, but for now that was cool w me, it was relaxing it was fun i laughed and i am seein him again this week, its not always about bein as shiesty as you can and greedy and grabbin every last buck u can from every scummy nerd loser you cant even stomache cuz they r such  annoying boring dry ass dweebs w no sense of humor and a sense of arrogance to boot, i d prefer to make less n be good to the few i can stomache, and if you dont like my opinion well i dont like your so neh neh neh neh,

Posted By: mrfisher
While a lot of guys are thick skinned enough to stand up to an opinion or two they disagree with, there are  many more who aren't, and the result is that a gal could needlessly hurt her pocketbook on account of a careless comment.

I enjoy discussing religion, politics and even the third rail of sports with anyone, and not hold it against them; but even with that said, I know one time I got so turned off by a provider's opinions about something that I made a mental note not to see them again, despite having a very good session with them.

It may be less than an ideal state of affairs, but that's the way the world works.

I'm in a business myself, and many is the time I'd love to give some customer what-for about something, but I have to hold my tongue.

As my mentor once told me:  If you want a job where you can tell people off, go be a judge.

I wasn't saying any of that to judge, to drum up business, or anything.  I posted that purely as a woman who felt shock and disrespect.   telling someone off and standing up against gender disrespect are different things to me.  

Posted By: mrfisher
While a lot of guys are thick skinned enough to stand up to an opinion or two they disagree with, there are  many more who aren't, and the result is that a gal could needlessly hurt her pocketbook on account of a careless comment.

I enjoy discussing religion, politics and even the third rail of sports with anyone, and not hold it against them; but even with that said, I know one time I got so turned off by a provider's opinions about something that I made a mental note not to see them again, despite having a very good session with them.

It may be less than an ideal state of affairs, but that's the way the world works.

I'm in a business myself, and many is the time I'd love to give some customer what-for about something, but I have to hold my tongue.

As my mentor once told me:  If you want a job where you can tell people off, go be a judge.

seeker6272374 reads

Dear Whitney, i have not had the pleasure of meeting you yet, but i hope to sometime soon.

i am writing because i am a man that enjoys reading the give and take of many on this site. tonite was not one of those moments.

i have no research or stats on what pct of men think of women in the way that you took offense to. i do know that most men i know have a very high regard for women, no matter what their profession.

since i have a mom, and a sister and a daughter and many great women friends, i am lost as to how anyone , especially as you stated in a hobby, could look at women in such a disgusting way.

i am new to all this and i am sure there will be some pissed off people, but i could not sit here and let women be talked about in this manner.

thank you for stating your response in such colorful terms, i DID enjoy that.

I was just honestly shocked.  I forget that some, though few I hope, guys have these opinions. I've been in this business, first as a hobbyist for about 5 years, then the last 3 years as a provider.  I have never had anyone treat me in that manner.  I can apologize for my colorful terms but that was just shock that came out lol.

You're obviously a sweetheart and will be a great client for some special girls.  I wish you the very best and hope our paths will cross =)

Cheers babe.

Whit

I was talking  about being dumb enough to post an opinion that may be accepted by some and not by others on this or any type board that you are trying to make a positive impression . I was not implying that in session a vigorous and interesting discussion in between rounds was unwelcome. I keep WW on the ignore user list so I had to log out of VIP to read her post, I not surprised she was offended at a post that was on a small biz site that basically said dont post rants on the web as you may be great but you will be misunderstood or worse look stupid for misunderstanding the tone or meaning of what you just read then went spastic on. Ding ding ding... We have a winner!!

We all have women we love or loved, wives daughters mothers friends etc. but I just found it interesting that some lady's value their opinion so much more than their actual purpose on a board they are on to try to expand their business whether its pussy or widgets or whatever

Then again some broads can really be cunts too😜

They speak for themselves. Just as mine does. Post something disrespectful and offensive then act like you weren't being disrespectful.  That's your personality. Roll with it. If I get offended over that type of thing and you wanna call me a cunt because of it, cool ;)



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10000000% well said lady! I double that and I would add that this....puppydog or whatever sent me a very agressive and volgar private message full of insults calling me a cunt for sharing my opinion and somewhat suggested to sabotage my business....my business? My business or any other lady by definition business is not affected by people like him! BTW, just in case other or even TER did not notice, this going around traing to intimidate ladies with agressive messages saying your businss will go down and you should do this or the other is a form of manipulation of the TER system! The website is not for faker, but for autentic people who provide outentic and ecceptional experiences and feedbacks.  

what I am saying is simple, you are not welcome, and people like you are not welcome to us. we do not need or want you. Our "dealing" is with real men, with no erection problem and consequently not women haters like you.  

Finally, it is not our fault if you cant give a BJ! So please get a reality check and move along.

manipulating this website is not in anyone iterest !  

Ha and by the way, to call a woman a cunt.... that speaks volums.

chipnputt2020 reads

Like with anything else a little common sense goes a long way.

I have no interest seeing and/or hanging out with anyone who can't or won't express their opinion whether it's a touchy subject or not. In stating an opinion one does not have to take it to the extreme where they offend who ever is around. Whitney just took it to the extreme. I have never met Whitney (although I certainly hope to at some point)  and wouldn't presume to speak for her but I'm guessing she's not always that blatant and outspoken without being provoked. That rant was so entertaining however it might be worth provoking her on purpose - just kidding Whitney.

When it comes to politics I am pretty conservative and have very little use or patience for liberals - very little. With that being said a lot of liberals are very nice people. A lot of liberal women are very good looking. Altough I'm always happy to state and defend my opinions I try to do so in a diplomatic and respectful manner. Although I've been known to go overboard I try to avoid it.

So in short I think a little spirited discussion between the first and second pop is a great thing as long as it doesn't end up in hotel security showing up at the door.

Your thoughts if any..

Some of the best times I've ever had as a hobbiest were with lady's I disagreed on just about everything from politics to sports  to whether the Atlantic was superior to the pacific, one of my ATF providers sexy Toni is a true blue Yankees fan and Jamey from vgf was a Canucks fan, I cannot remember which I found worse,   My post was hijacked and moved to a philosophical debate on whether women should voice their opinion? I was simply stating that if you pay all that money for ads and photos and hotel rooms etc. and take time to monitor the boards, I find it amazing that a provider will shoot herself in the foot by posting opinions and get in the middle of debates that will only offend or turn off a good percentage of their potential buying audience, that was the gist of the article I read online that I mentioned.  

The advice which I've found to be helpful I got  from a lady I knew that had a husband who was embroiled in a power struggle involving a huge fraternal organization he was in line to be in charge of was, she told me " I say nothing and wear beige"

Privately she was anything but neutral.

I hope the gals that understand the theme of the post will benefit and remember their online presence on a fuck board is to be sexy , enticing, teasing and witty but they don't need to be controversial in front of potential clients even if they know their current clients will agree or defend them.

in business its always best publicly to try and stay nutral.  
No one wants to be known as that hothead. I  cant say that I have followed this advice sometimes i just cant help myself lol!!! I am a bit of a hothead Im 100% Irish after all.
The Ladies who stay out of the fray and away from the drama dont carry a rep of friction. It can work in their favor. they let their reviews speak for them. Its smart business. Again I just cant help myself sometimes. lol...

Now Whitney, you have been here long enogh seen many trainwrecks been in a few, as have I, you have seen your share of the crazy and when this was really the wild west to post. How could you even state your shock. Id guess at this point not much would shock anyone whos been around here a bit.

Opinions are like assholes everyone has one ...yada yada yada, you know the rest.
We are in a business where there are sadly many women haters, always have been. Some think we are lazy uneducated and drug addicts. Yo u are not going to change their mind. Dont take it personally they dont like most women they just are comfortable lashing out on an anonymous board, its easy.
It takes all kinds right.
You and I know the elements of which we came, who we are and where we are going. Really thats enough.
you will meet ppl here on both sides of the fence and those who choose to hate women, you are not going to change their opinions  no matter how much you protest or even how strong your argument is.
the key word here is they *choose* to see us a certain way. its a choice.
chalk up all the bad vibes and negative additudes to what ever you want you know who you are...really in the end thats all that matters.
Be like a duck, just let it roll off.
With enough rope no worries, they always manage to hang themselves. Stand clear so you dont get tripped up in it.

Now if I could ONLY take my own advice and shut the hell up sometimes...uggghhh...lol

Be well all!!!
Nic

all good points but when I re read my original post I see nothing woman-hating in the advice I re posted.
I saw it as good intended  advice to remain out of the fray as Nicole said. Impressions on the board are nothing more than thoughts or opinions posted by people you really dont know. Why bicker if it will create a representation of you that may turn off potential clients? Oh, I forgot your opinion is worth more than a few bucks..blah blah blah..just to prove how cool and laid back you are? posting you have rolls of fat and stood up a few guys in the past is also plain stupid, I posted candid advice on running a web type business from Manta because they are huge and thats what they do. I found it interesting and informative and though some lady's might too.  

Whitney see's red on my post and nothing else which is kind of humorous to me because it was a generic post directed at no one in particular and not meant to flame, and then who threw the burning arrow? Miss laid back cool chick.

Telling other providers not to fuck a customer for money because his view was different than yours ?(despite the fact the fact you were unable to read and understand the post)
Uncool..I'll never be able to get laid with $300 in my pocket again because I think providers should consider good advice before they post..Laughable!!

Cute Yappy Dog, really cute coming from the guy telling your fellow hobbyists not to see any girl who entertains escalade's posts, and my response to that was why you originally blocked me, and you blocked me after you and I PMed a few times because I didn't wanna bring the shit to the board. I'd rather handle major disagreements in private like grown ups, in case there is a misunderstanding that can easily be talked out.  

My heated response here is not characteristic of me.  Search my threads. Search the board threads. The digital history here proves exactly who each of us are on these boards.  You bring the real you, opinions and all.  I bring the real me, opinions and all.  You are not fooling anyone nor insulting me with the holier than though attitude.

Your MO is often to post something with a bit of a controversy to it then play victim. I'm not wasting my time on you on the boards. If you can't see that the original 2 posts in this thread are disrespectful, then that just makes my point about you.

Yes, I was extreme. Yes, I was hot headed in that reply.  You just can't leave shit alone and think you need the last word on everything.  I obviously don't or I'd be on the boards way more often.  

Fuck your using the whole difference of opinion thing.  You're just using stuff I've told you before.  You're not the keeper of the board here, as I also pointed out the last time.  Our personalities don't mesh.  

You wanted a reply to your post, I replied.  Mr "Agree to disagree", you can't practice what you preach.  

I'm done with this thread but I can assure you, I'll have more nice things to bring to the board in the future, just as I've had more nice and just fun things in the past.  Go ahead, act like I'm crazy, act like you are on some high ground. Shows your inability to see any other side than your own.

Again. Search the digital history.  Own your shit. I know I do.

Cheers baby boy.  



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My post was about opinions and when it is smart to disclose them versus when it's maybe better to use discretion, something you have trouble with obviously in many aspects of your life. I have no use for you which is why I blocked you. I never initiated  any pm with you I merely answered your pm to me. I don't have any misunderstanding with anyone on the board and I don't care for drama queens. Escalade is a spamming troll and that is not a misunderstanding it's a view that I have and some not all share with me. I don't see his post as he is on the ignore list with you his cheerleader. You say you don't frequent the boards but you sure do get worked up about opinions you disagree with. So you were opening champagne and decided to glance at the boards and was aghast that I posted a article I saw on online presence. You misunderstood the tone went ballistic called yourself someone with rolls of fat that stands people up on occasion. How much champagne did you drink before you  responded?

"Fat,drunk and and stupid is no way to go through life"
Dean Wormer

Posted By: whitneywilcoxx
Cute Yappy Dog, really cute coming from the guy telling your fellow hobbyists not to see any girl who entertains escalade's posts, and my response to that was why you originally blocked me, and you blocked me after you and I PMed a few times because I didn't wanna bring the shit to the board. I'd rather handle major disagreements in private like grown ups, in case there is a misunderstanding that can easily be talked out.    
   
 My heated response here is not characteristic of me.  Search my threads. Search the board threads. The digital history here proves exactly who each of us are on these boards.  You bring the real you, opinions and all.  I bring the real me, opinions and all.  You are not fooling anyone nor insulting me with the holier than though attitude.  
   
 Your MO is often to post something with a bit of a controversy to it then play victim. I'm not wasting my time on you on the boards. If you can't see that the original 2 posts in this thread are disrespectful, then that just makes my point about you.  
   
 Yes, I was extreme. Yes, I was hot headed in that reply.  You just can't leave shit alone and think you need the last word on everything.  I obviously don't or I'd be on the boards way more often.    
   
 Fuck your using the whole difference of opinion thing.  You're just using stuff I've told you before.  You're not the keeper of the board here, as I also pointed out the last time.  Our personalities don't mesh.  
   
 You wanted a reply to your post, I replied.  Mr "Agree to disagree", you can't practice what you preach.  
   
 I'm done with this thread but I can assure you, I'll have more nice things to bring to the board in the future, just as I've had more nice and just fun things in the past.  Go ahead, act like I'm crazy, act like you are on some high ground. Shows your inability to see any other side than your own.  
   
 Again. Search the digital history.  Own your shit. I know I do.  
   
 Cheers baby boy.  
   
 

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You went over the line there!!! You can not like someone but don't attack the way you just did shows no class. Just like your post said opion you had yours and Whitney saw it her way and took offense to it that the way the world works .Play nice!!

Happy to play nice  and be respectful when it is reciprocated but if you read the thread I was not the antagonist here. I returned fire after being fired upon.. It's pretty clear.
Blame Dean Wormer it was his quote!

I did read the post all of them still no reason to be a jerk and attacked the way you did it sounds to me you might be mad
she won't see you from what I'm reading ?

And I wouldn't see you.  

1. I drink twice a month.  

2. Youre calling names like a 12 year old boy. .

3. I had no alcohol at the time of that post.  

4. I pity your bitterness. Let me know when you

5. A real man can have a 1 on 1 conversation with a woman, instead of trying to play up his own ego for an audience.  

Call me fat. I like my size just fine. You're just displaying more and more troll qualities every time you post.  Hide behind a screen. Attack a person based on no personal knowledge. And finally, most true to troll form, make sure you only attack a person on the open board so you can get the absolute most attention.  

The number of PMs and emails I've gotten from girls you've attacked over the years is ridiculous.  

well. It's down to about 20 people following this thread this far now. I'm not sure if that's enough of an audience for you.  

As I said in my original post. You should be ashamed of yourself. As per my original post, you're proving your lack of respect.

-- Modified on 8/21/2013 2:50:20 PM

Ha ha I never tried to see you, you indicated pm contact with me to defend escalade. I have 50 plus reviews and try to be fair but I don't see as a rule see bbws so you were not on my list and I told you that and you said "well your not on mine either," that was after I said your post were interesting. I have no bitterness and could care less about your phony claims of girls I " attacked" your a fool want the list of " girls" I've had differences over the 10 plus years I've been on the board?

Ally Moore
Crystal for fun
London Rayne # 1 poster on ter answer every single post then says she's keeping a low profile...lol
And some agency that I said looked ghetto... It did to me and that was my opinion and I see black girls so I was not being racist btw.

Not too big a list.

I don't have any inclination to talk to you 1 on 1 or by pm as I really don't need to clear the air, I've ignored you and escalade and its fine if you don't like my views "it's cool" babe

But as for attention seekers I assure you that you and your mentor escalade are the true attention whores on this board.

You can call me bitter, I'm not
A misogynist, ( that is someone that hates women) but I love them
Mean and sharp tongued... Maybe a little guilty on that one  

You are the attacker but you cry like a bitch when I answered you, sorry but I posted a view on having an online presence and you misread it got pissed and started hammering away. Too bad if you don't like my responses  

You want to take it private fine but my view won't change and neither will yours  

By the way two post ago you were done with this thread?

You called yourself fat not me.  I just  didn't disagree  

 
Don't confuse me  

Posted By: whitneywilcoxx
And I wouldn't see you.  
   
 1. I drink twice a month.  
   
 2. Youre calling names like a 12 year old boy. .  
   
 3. I had no alcohol at the time of that post.  
   
 4. I pity your bitterness. Let me know when you  
   
 5. A real man can have a 1 on 1 conversation with a woman, instead of trying to play up his own ego for an audience.    
   
 Call me fat. I like my size just fine. You're just displaying more and more troll qualities every time you post.  Hide behind a screen. Attack a person based on no personal knowledge. And finally, most true to troll form, make sure you only attack a person on the open board so you can get the absolute most attention.  
   
 The number of PMs and emails I've gotten from girls you've attacked over the years is ridiculous.  
   
 well. It's down to about 20 people following this thread this far now. I'm not sure if that's enough of an audience for you.  
   
 As I said in my original post. You should be ashamed of yourself. As per my original post, you're proving your lack of respect.  

-- Modified on 8/21/2013 2:50:20 PM

Seriously ppl ,every ones in a while I laugh about girls who got drunk or stoned and just went to much  bla bla bla so tonight its my turn  .but any way if you dont like some one for size or age just move on why do you need to be mean ?and no I m not asking for your thoughts ..

Posted By: papidog
 
 Ha ha I never tried to see you, you indicated pm contact with me to defend escalade. I have 50 plus reviews and try to be fair but I don't see as a rule see bbws so you were not on my list and I told you that and you said "well your not on mine either," that was after I said your post were interesting. I have no bitterness and could care less about your phony claims of girls I " attacked" your a fool want the list of " girls" I've had differences over the 10 plus years I've been on the board?  
   
 Ally Moore  
 Crystal for fun  
 London Rayne # 1 poster on ter answer every single post then says she's keeping a low profile...lol  
 And some agency that I said looked ghetto... It did to me and that was my opinion and I see black girls so I was not being racist btw.  
   
 Not too big a list.  
   
 I don't have any inclination to talk to you 1 on 1 or by pm as I really don't need to clear the air, I've ignored you and escalade and its fine if you don't like my views "it's cool" babe  
   
 But as for attention seekers I assure you that you and your mentor escalade are the true attention whores on this board.  
   
 You can call me bitter, I'm not  
 A misogynist, ( that is someone that hates women) but I love them  
 Mean and sharp tongued... Maybe a little guilty on that one  
   
 You are the attacker but you cry like a bitch when I answered you, sorry but I posted a view on having an online presence and you misread it got pissed and started hammering away. Too bad if you don't like my responses  
   
 You want to take it private fine but my view won't change and neither will yours  
   
 By the way two post ago you were done with this thread?  
   
 You called yourself fat not me.  I just  didn't disagree  
   
   
 Don't confuse me  
Posted By: whitneywilcoxx
And I wouldn't see you.    
     
  1. I drink twice a month.    
     
  2. Youre calling names like a 12 year old boy. .  
     
  3. I had no alcohol at the time of that post.    
     
  4. I pity your bitterness. Let me know when you  
     
  5. A real man can have a 1 on 1 conversation with a woman, instead of trying to play up his own ego for an audience.    
     
  Call me fat. I like my size just fine. You're just displaying more and more troll qualities every time you post.  Hide behind a screen. Attack a person based on no personal knowledge. And finally, most true to troll form, make sure you only attack a person on the open board so you can get the absolute most attention.    
     
  The number of PMs and emails I've gotten from girls you've attacked over the years is ridiculous.    
     
  well. It's down to about 20 people following this thread this far now. I'm not sure if that's enough of an audience for you.    
     
  As I said in my original post. You should be ashamed of yourself. As per my original post, you're proving your lack of respect.  
   
 -- Modified on 8/21/2013 2:50:20 PM

You are still a fkin moron! Please show me where I said "I am keeping a low profile" you dipshit. I said I don't need to fk guys like you, and am low VOLUME, meaning I don't need your money. While we are at it, that is exactly why women like ME can post our opinions and not worry about a few stupid ass board boys crossing us off some hooker list...we don't give two shits about you bwahahaha.  No, we are not the only 3 women you've had issues with. You are blacklisted for being an abusive asswipe, so tell me...who's that girl? When you don't get your pussy ass kissed you call women cunts, old, fat, and whatever else you think actually matters. You're a DUMB TRICK, and nothing more idiot. Most smart providers would not piss on your ass if it were on fire.

It doesn't matter if its, scandalous, positive, negative, or stupid.

Quite frankly, a woman who is intelligent, I find incredibly attractive whether I disagree with her or not.  

Sure she might actually turn a potential client or two away, but she will be noticed in expressing an opinion.  Marketing is all about getting noticed, so expressing your opinion is important, cuz you want to draw attention to yourself.  I might read the reviews about you, and visit your website.  That's your "Brand" and you want as many people as possible to see!

Thus, I disagree with the opinion expressed in Papidog's post.  Whoever wrote it and/or agrees with it is a horses arse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When I'm looking for an appointment with one of these ladies, I don't care that she is an active democrat, and roots for the yankees.  Opinion does not matter in this hobby.    

(Any of the ladies want to use my soapbox?  I'm finished with it.  How bout you, Angel, or you Nicole?)

im trying to stay off the soapbox for a while...;)
xox

The post was written in a series of do's and dont's by Manta tip of the day.  the online  marketplace they have 40000 twitter followers and have grown at a tremendous pace. I'm not sure why but it seems that it struck a nerve with posters who seem  to thrive on controversy.as for being a horse arse or not I personally agree that when marketing yourself to potential hobbiest on a fuck board political, theological and other views if extreme maybe should be kept under wraps until you have a more personal relationship. I agree with the view that if you stay above the fray and not offend any potential customer it's a better approach. I have customers that are ignorant to me and my help and sometimes I would like to respond but its bad business. If I posted on my website that fucking girls half my age was my hobby, rather than " on my off time I enjoy watching sports and coaching my sons hockey team" I may be true to myself but at quite a steep cost. I don't believe that any press is good press that's utter nonsense. If you think Aaron Hernandez helped keep the patriots in the news during  this off season or Jerry Remy is happy to be trending on twitter because his roid  raging son murdered a woman than your the arse.

Common sense is usually simple and usually right

Posted By: papidog
The post was written in a series of do's and dont's by Manta tip of the day.  the online  marketplace they have 40000 twitter followers and have grown at a tremendous pace. I'm not sure why but it seems that it struck a nerve with posters who seem  to thrive on controversy.as for being a horse arse or not I personally agree that when marketing yourself to potential hobbiest on a fuck board political, theological and other views if extreme maybe should be kept under wraps until you have a more personal relationship. I agree with the view that if you stay above the fray and not offend any potential customer it's a better approach. I have customers that are ignorant to me and my help and sometimes I would like to respond but its bad business. If I posted on my website that fucking girls half my age was my hobby, rather than " on my off time I enjoy watching sports and coaching my sons hockey team" I may be true to myself but at quite a steep cost. I don't believe that any press is good press that's utter nonsense. If you think Aaron Hernandez helped keep the patriots in the news during  this off season or Jerry Remy is happy to be trending on twitter because his roid  raging son murdered a woman than your the arse.  
   
 Common sense is usually simple and usually right
-- Modified on 8/22/2013 6:46:15 AM

We can't possibly be the exact thing that every out there guy wants. I think each girl and her specific personality attracts different clients. Some guys want the quiet, bubbly type, some guys like the outspoken type, some guys like the straight up nymphos regardless of personality, some like the highly educated articulate type, some guys want a combination of them all.  

So no matter which personality type a girl is, she's alienating some set of men. I guess I'm saying that we can't please all the the men all of the time. But we can please some of the men, some of the time. I don't think it's bad business because some comments a girl makes aren't tailored to fit a certain demographic.  Yes, it seems we SHOULD want every possible appointment request out there, but we can't possibly do that many appointments in a day/week/month.  

Any good business picks a target audience and goes for them. So just because one type of guy is offended and alienated by a girl's personality or opinion, by her sharing it, she's opened herself up to a whole new set of guys who enjoy it.  Whole Foods is a good example. Tons of people hate Whole Foods, it's out of the price range of many people, but it's not gonna sell certain items and do certain things just so people on an extremely fixed budget or low income can shop there as well.

And in this business, what's perceived as bad publicity, is STILL publicity.

I don't think this is a who's right, who's wrong situation. Just a difference  in the way people run businesses.  Our bodies are being used for pleasure by men. We have to do whatever makes us feel good at the end of the day.

Whi

Dude why are you so adamant about pushing legit business advice to an illicit, illegal, black market? I think you need to review some history because opinionated hookers have left a big mark on this planet since ancient times...

Dudette, ,

 I am pushing nothing on anyone. I posted a view from  an article on web type etiquette that was interesting and the article NOT me said based on expert advice it's best to do a b and c and avoid pitfalls etc. I thought it was good advice. I wasn't telling the " "hookers"  what to do or how to run their business. It was not even my own original opinion, although I totally agree that neutrality until you meet a client in person will probably be a more efficient way to get the most out of your marketing time and effort. It was twisted and misconstrued and ridiculously labeled as demeaning and woman hating, and that's when the fun started.  

So on an alternative view:" hookers" please post your religious views, your views on your favorite politicians and of course roe v wade and other neutral stuff so we can pre judge you on the three line post. All publicity is good publicity right?  

Don't forget to keep reposting and explaining your hotheaded off the mark views despite saying you we're done with this thread five posts ago. ( shows great self control and stability)

Also more  good advice, mention that no one should see a hobbiest with money and whitelist referrals because you dislike his board persona, throw  in a lie about how he wanted to see you and was rebuffed ( to make yourself seem like you are above it all)  and add that you have rolls of fat and stand guys up from time to time...all good publicity. Gets your name out there right!

 
Please add false claims that hobbiest whose view you dislike are trying to be " keeper of the boards" and that tons of ladies have emailed you over the years that he is bullying them too

You can refer to your original post all you want to divert people's replies regarding your name calling and outright disrespect and inability to take responsibility.  Bait a girl by calling a size 12 girl fat and you're likely gonna get a follow up.  You're eating up the attention. telling me I lied about you being an ass to and threatening girls saying you only had problems with 3 in 10 years then listing them trying to grasp at a little credibility.   Well.  Another popped up didn't she.  Pretending I lied about an appointment request. Wrong again. Pretending you respect women. You're proving yourself wrong on that one. Calling me drunk when I posted? If you read my original post it's clear you're wrong there too.

Like I said. The typed out digital history tells the truth here. I'm a grown woman with respect for others who are respectful. You know nothing about me. Fat, drunk, stupid? Me? Comical. I was initially shocked at the obvious undertone of your original post. Your replies have just made me feel nothing but pity now.  

Continue trying to have the last word. It's getting deeper each time.  Maybe another girl or two who you threatened via pm will chime in.

-- Modified on 8/22/2013 1:01:24 PM

Sorry sister but the liar liar pants on fire defense is not gonna cut it. If you found he original post demeaning the tell Manta.com   And it seems you keep coming back to the thread with accusations.

I never requested to see you...ever  
I am not a bully and if people don't like my post they can refrain and skip them like I do on posters I find trivial and stupid.
You clearly cannot make an argument as what was demeaning in the original post regarding opinions because you read it and took it completely left of its meaning.
I called you names? Sweetie read your own post and see who fired first on every one as far back as you like and you may be surprised. You say it won't lie I agree with you for once.
Don't pity me babe pity the fool, that's clearly you in this case.
Seems to me no gal I've visited with has called me a bully ,just serial posters making accusations they can't back up.

I ignored you for months and at your request...look at thread where you said " if someone would stop ignoring and talk like a mature adult" or post 2 "take it private go one on one as you said in this thread."

I said we agree to disagree but  you backtrack and spin your view 180 degrees on your  last post moving to the center. You should be a political pundit.

I actually rarely if ever use the word cunt and I didn't with you either but you used it first and I said some girls maybe are, I'm sorry if you saw yourself in that group.  

Weren't you done 6 post ago?

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