I went to post my availability this week and came accross Stacey's thread.

WOW.

Last week it was Melinda who was dissected, and The current thread, (where I believe Stacey merely thanked a client for giving her a great review) turned into a name calling, low-blow (no pun intended), insulting platform with Stacey as the target.

Wasn't it last week that MANY of you gentlemen called (primarily us providers) on the carpet for personal dialoguing within a thread??? I believe this was referred to as disruptive, unnecessary and many of you got DOWNRIGHT NASTY about it.

If yewz guyz are threatened by a woman with an IQ above 60, and/or you feel your masculinity is derived from humiliating providers, may I suggest you tour one of the many venues where giving $50 to a woman is considered BIG money.

It is threads like the one below which cause me to write as provocatively as I do sometimes.  IT IS IMPORTANT TO THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING AND THE TONE YOU ARE SETTING.  There is no excuse for self-induced written amnesia.  Don't rant in one thread how you hate interpersonalization and then in the same breath turn around and do what you yelled at others for doing.

If you really wanna pick on someone, pick on me.  I have three degrees and co-captioned a debating team, and that you can take to the bank!

HOWEVER,

still, I spread my legs, and you guys continue to donate heavily, SO..

Who the F&%K really cares?

Find something meaningful to debate, like "stockings and garters vs. thi high's," rather than worrying about whether somebody got their degree in May, or will get their degree in the Spring.  Life is too short.

Personally I prefer thi hi's.

BE NICE AND USE YOUR SMARTS.  

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I would like to know who gave you the third degree, and then, I would like to know what you captioned and who was your co-captioner? (Just how does one "caption" a debating team? One wonders!) lol

On a serious note, since you have three (some presumably advanced) degrees why do you continue in this profession where women are routinely debased and humiliated? This is an especially interesting question since you apparently have been in this industry long enough to amass a nest egg to fund a transition to another career and thus, escape the burden of dealing with the crude and vulgar lot who constitute the hobbying community. Do you think the hostility towards males evident in your post will help your business? I think most women are in this business because of the easy money. The only other way to make equivalent income involves years of hard study, possibly decades of work moving up the ladder in business or other endeavors, not to mention, rare aptitude, drive and dedication. Unfortunately, to make money as a provider, women have to expose themselves to a wide range of men, some of whom are vulgar and vile, and some, downright dangerous. Though any civilized person in or out of this hobby deplores the behavior of those few, it is a part of life that providers have to protect themselves from. Such is the cost of easy money, and the reason more women don't pursue escorting as a career option. Some might argue, though not me, that women debase and humiliate themselves by choosing this profession. For the record, I didn't join in the criticism of Stacey, and I would not. I don't care how many wigs she wears or how many degrees she has. Though I've never seen her, I suspect that her reputation is well deserved and that she is a very fine provider. She and her admirers defended her reputation quite adequately.

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I only have one degree, and could never win a debate but that's another story.

Anyway, I didn't read the whole Stacey thread you refer to (and I don;t know if I read the other thread you refer to). But I think the question that was originally asked by cravebeaver is certianly a valid question. Stacey answered that, whether people chose to believe that or not is up to them. If they are really wondering if the pics are accurate they should look at here reviews if the reviews are OK then make an appt to see her.

As to Right to truth, his question is also Valid (first question about graduating) which stacey also answered. Perhaps the follow-ups got more into what you are referring to (I didn't read them) but certainly those two questions are valid, aren't they?

Reebasing and Humiliating Providers in A Public Forum

Maybe we shouldn't "donate" so heavily.. You did your fair share of trashing 'VIP's' last week. Maybe you need to get off your high horse and loosen up a bit.

Stockings and garters over thigh highs every time.

Now that I'm on the stocking subject, the best are vintage RHT or Full Fashioned.  The kind you can only get from the web boutiques like Vikki's or Magnolia.

The stockings must be worn with a skin tight spandex micro mini, a lace corset, the kind that expose the top of the breast and strappy 5 inch heels, not mules, or 5 inch spiked heel pumps.

Glad to see we're back on subject, thanks Aphrodisia.

I vote for stockings and garters.

I know this won't go down well but sometimes the truth hurts.  Perhaps some people are providers because of a need to degrade and punish themselves?  I'm not point any fingers but this is a possibility.  My .02

1) I much prefer an intelligent woman to someone who I cannot carry a conversation with.  I like to be "Mind-***cked" in addition to physical satisfaction.

2) Something about stockings going up the leg, with four or six straps going from those to "who knows where" and somehow catching a glance of the tops of the stockings and seeing the fabric that travels beyond that drives me wild!!  Thi-Hi's that just end are nice, but stockings garters are much nicer.

luv_women

1 LillyI love an intelligent women like your self
2 wear black nylons and garters i believe they will look hot on you

Hogan

Self esteem can be in short supply in the hobby among many providers and some clients as well.

Self esteem works both ways, my dear, however this post did exactly what it was intended to do, it made people think.  That was the one and only point.

If you read the vituperous responses in the posts to Stacey, you would understand that education has little or nothing to do with my post, which is exactly what I stated below my sarcastic educational statement.

Secondly, I do not post in this forum for the sole purpose of business, however honestly, it helps my business as there are numerous men who get off on (mentally) on what I say and wish to see me based on my postings AND actually "get" what I am really trying to say.  I appreciate your concerns, nonetheless.

Thirdly, I am not hostile towards MEN; rather I am ANGERED and HOSTILE towards the men who use this platform to publicly humiliate a provider -- like you tried with your cute off color remarks about my first post.

I will give you the benefit of the doubt by saying that you did not read the forementioned thread carefully enough, otherwise you would not have written what you did (I am taking the high road assuming that you are an intelligent sport).

Remember: my original post was a RESPONSE not an INITIATIVE, and this thread was started to get people to THINK and to BRAINSTORM.  Based on the post directly below yours, it is obvious that many have providers profiles put in a box and this is something I wanted to address.

The responses to this thread do not surprise me; neither do the nasty comments being directed my way.  I view this all as posetive.  Conflict/Resolution Baby, is what life's all about.

Life would be pretty boring if we didn't stir the cookie jar from time to time, dontcha think?

And by-the-by...If you think this is "EASY MONEY," well think again!

Just be nice and think.

I think providers, like clients, are motivated by a variety of needs and desires, but I think there is an identifiable subset of providers who are motivated by hatred or contempt for men. I don't know what proportion of providers are like that, and I don't understand it, but it is well documented by research. It varies in severity. I can think of one local and controversial provider (not Aphrodisia) who is a classic and extreme example of that mindset. On the other hand, there seems to be others who are motivated by lustful and adventurous personality traits. I suspect Stacey is an example of that type. I try to seek out the latter. But maybe the former make better S&M mistresses, if that's what floats your boat. Just go into things with a heads up attitude!

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Yes, it was the follow-ups, but morever the MANNER in which they were answered which angered me.  If people bothered to read below my "degree jargon," they would realize that the point WAS it didn't matter, and that I posted the info (sarcastically mind you) because of the weight it was given in the Stacey post.

Reading context and content is important - more so in the Stacey thread.  It wasn't so much what was said, but how it was said.

Sometimes I mirror other people's words and attitudes when they write.  Why?  Because I know it will incite and anger them because of course they do not realize that they have done the exact same thing prior.  Well, if what I write angers 'them', how do you think others, esp. providers feel when the same (intent) is being written about them?

Now that you know my trade secrets, don't you think it would be better to think about what is being said before you respond on paper?

THINK and BE NICE (or not) BUT THINK!

Self esteem works both ways. That's exactly what I said in my post.

Everyone,

I have thoughtfully read your posts, digested them all, and I must admit that I have learned something of great importance!

I have always leaned on the side of "Thi Hi's" with big lacey tops, as I found them to be sexy, yet quite functional.  However, after reading the posts, I realize that the preference is definately garters and stockings, so..even though I find them to be much more cumbersome and constricting, I will, in the spirit of compromise and satisfaction, sacrifice my thi hi's, and fasten up...

It's Stockings and Garters for me gentlemen.  If that's what you want, then that's what you get!



xoxo

See, if you knew me HB, you'd know that I was psychologically submissive in the sensual arena - putting the needs of the man first..(now what is my email address?)

Laughing... The way one A-R-T-I-C-U-L-A-T-E-S is not necessarily how they F-O-R-N-I-C-A-T-E.

Guess I've been a real naughty girl, HB. Maybe you need to show me the error of my ways..haven't had a good bare-bones spanking in a real long time, BUT that'll cost you extra!  LMAO

Lilly

Please don't say you've been humbled.  Alot of us guys like it when your haughty and dominant side.

If its going to be stockings and garters, I vote for something like this.

I have the exact same shoes, in black..

and I LOVE the naughty secretary look!  It is second to my FAVE ..Parochial Schoolgirl, of which I have an authenitic archdiosese approved uniform..down to the peter pan blouse..

But that only goes well with the thick platform wedge "slut shoes!"

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It is very hard to detect a persons attitude or emotions when it is written on paper or in a post such as this. Especially if the people have never met.
if you can read a post and detect context from someones post, more power to you. I can't and stopped trying many years ago. I also suspect that if you are doing that then you are failing in most cases, and your follow up posts are more "stirring the fire" then anything else.
Even in this reply your implication is that I didn't think before I replied, which is rather insulting. Your orginal post was, IMHO, bringing someone to task about piosting a completly valid question.

if that was not the case, then forget I posted. If it was then I, again, say you are wrong. It is valid for a person to try and determine the validity of someones pictures and what they have said. the way it is asked or posted shouldn't be questioned, IMHO.