Which is going to hell in a hand basket quickly.
Entitlement is out of control in every aspect of every business...employers of employeesEmployees of employers etc etc The way we are treated in the service industry as customers in lots of cases.
Pride, honesty and a good work ethic are going the way of....the tucker the Edsel, Pontiac and Oldsmobile lol People are pushing for more and more bang for their buck...in everything.!!!!!!!!!
Weather its for pay or play doesn't matter...it is everywhere. The frekin ENTITLEMENT generations cup has runneth over into mainstream far to much....grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Seems there is a ...if you can't beat them. Join them attitude. Just my .02
I am not a clock watcher and we all like to have a good time just because you read *shes no clock watcher* in her reviews thats not an invitation to overstay or take advantage.
I feel like lately ppl, not all but more ppl think thats a signal or code to overstay.
3 ppl this week alone (and its only monday)thought we could start round 2 at 5 of the hr. Or at 10 past their time to leave they wanna hop in the shower. Theyll say, *mind if I rinse off quick?* and thats another 15 20 min,if you are dragging it out, book 1.5hrs its disrespectrful to push the time like this.I had a client tell me today, I was rushing him
2 pops and a shower to freshenup before and after and all the foreplay yada yada yada well at 5 of he wanted to go again I said no.
he left 15minutes after his time due to his shower.
Do you think that should be off the clock? What are the thoughts here. ????
Why has this just gotten out of control.
60 minutes as far as I know still is 1hr.
That's why I book two hours and still watch the time. I want to chat, get comfortable, and enjoy the time. If you are good enough to be on time for me, I should at the very least respect your efforts and your schedule. It's a lot more relaxed that way.
Likewise, I always set appointment for two hours. It's about communication and establishing a feeling. People remember feelings even when they don't remember your name. More than once, the rapport was so strong that we spent the night. If retirement never occurred for them, I'm sure the same would happen and I would fulfill the favor with the expected donation. Maybe I just avoid specials and budgets. Something about budgeting signals a quality problem, both ways.
it wouldn't be fair if the next client is waiting longer and you gotta do prep work like wash up
Shouldn't book that close.. Is this how we start the week.....whining...
But an hour is an hour. +/- What if the provider thinks it is ok to send you after 45-50 minutes?
mentioned he saw in my reviews I wasnt a clock watcher.
I think ppl see that as more than it is or should be.
Book an hr stay an hr
need more time, book it pay for it dont just expect it.
Do you work for free? why should i be expected to?
I've heard stories about a high volume local agency where the girls just use wipes instead of shower...doing their 8-10 guys per day.
That's my (thoughts if any) addition to this can of worms.
cans of Lysol on the night stand and spit buckets also ruin the gfe
Just sayin
It is so classy when providers complain about hobbyist.
Yet so professional, they do not know that some take advantage
of time yet still book with them.
Perhaps you should spend more time researching clients behaviors. LOL
....she has you figured out. No further research needed!
some ppl just cant move on.
all I hear when he chats up is...blah blah blah blah blah
ugghhhh 
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why do you ask about me?
apparently not if she keeps booking with guys that take advantage of the time.
but I'm sure she likes you more now sweetie.
......a Sweetie. But I doubt that I am your type.
Your thoughts, if any!
"Not a clock-watcher" USED to mean that the girl didn't "get 'em in, get 'em off, get 'em out" and significantly SHORT guys on time, often by limiting them to a single pop. It also meant that she wasn't spending the time staring at the clock through one squinted eye and repeatedly saying "Cum for me baby!" in breathy bad porno speak.
At some point the meaning DRAMATICALLY changed! Since phones were set to "silent" and tucked away in bureau drawers or hand-bags... and money was concealed in envelopes, never to be counted or acknowledged... it wasn't a great leap when somehow ANY reference to a lady having other plans in her personal or professional life became gauche.
And that is when the era of THE CAMPER began!
No longer fettered by the obvious signs that appointments are contractual agreements for a set amount of time in exchange for a specific fee, I constantly have guys who try to stay at my incall until the condoms, massage oil, and towels run out.
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No different for us guys as to the providers that do rush.
It is all out there. Do your research.
Good lord you think the first time the lady rushed a client was her
or the first time the hobbyist that stayed over there time was him.
If you don't do a bit of research, you are bound to lose.
It seems to me all bookers and agencies should know that?
At some point the meaning DRAMATICALLY changed! Since phones were set to "silent" and tucked away in bureau drawers or hand-bags... and money was concealed in envelopes, never to be counted or acknowledged... it wasn't a great leap when somehow ANY reference to a lady having other plans in her personal or professional life became gauche.
And that is when the era of THE CAMPER began!
No longer fettered by the obvious signs that appointments are contractual agreements for a set amount of time in exchange for a specific fee, I constantly have guys who try to stay at my incall until the condoms, massage oil, and towels run out.
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However, if you are too convincing you end up with guys trying to stay two or three times the length of the time you were compensated for! It's always "something"- they're trying to squeeze in a second or third round, they fall asleep while you're massaging them, they're yaking your ear off without stopping to breath, and they take two showers and primp in the bathroom like a girl... ALL DURING WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A ONE HOUR SESSION!
Believe me- this is the bane of my existance, and it's only getting worse.
A provider is technically not required to do anything other than spend time with you. Now it's generally accepted/ expected that adult fun will ensue....stipulated. I'm not being naive here. It's my general belief that if a provider advertises "Not a Clock Watcher", I feel she is telling ME to keep an eye on the clock in a subtle shift of responsibility. Even if MSOG's are advertised it's not a guarantee because the provider is only 50% of the equation and can't control what she can't control.
I've been in both situations I just try to be honest about the situation, at that time. I've left before my time is up and I have lingered a bit..... but that has only happened at the providers insistence. In certain situations providers have insisted I pop for round 2. If I know it's gonna take a bit to happen, I've communicated that with them and let them make the call. I usually don't carry a lot of extra $$ with me on appts., but if I do extend then I'll leave what I have.
As a general rule, if I don't start round 2 before the 45 minute mark.... then I will take my "one & done" and be happy about it.
Believe me- this is the bane of my existance, and it's only getting worse.
I need to throw my 2 cents in here...
When someone states in their site or post that they are not a clock watcher that tells me a couple of things. Although they don't want to be taken advantage of (nobody does), they understand that there may be an occasion where things don't work out exactly as planned and an extra few minutes (5 or 10 not 30 or 40) is needed for the desired pleasant conclusion. Someone who is not a clock watcher realizes that this is the exception, not the rule and just rolls with it. In business it's called customer service.
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On the other hand someone who states that "60 minute IS just that 60 miutes" definately IS a clock watcher. Someone who schedules only 15 minutes between appointments definately IS a clock watcher (as well as having questionable hygiene).
To me it's simple common sense.
there was never 15 min between appointments,
i think you are confused here.
he popped twice and at 5of wanted to do round 3 i said no. thats when he said i read you were not a clockwatcher. at 5 of its time to hop in the shower and get dressed not try for round 3.
of course if you were in the middle of something by all means lets finish but thats not the time to start something new.
at some point it is pushing it.
..... you're due to cough up my 90min rate difference.
Particularly, in light of fact that you need to control your client first & foremost. You have been in the business long enough to know this fact.
Anyone in the service industry, albeit atty., accountant, escort, whatever,(those billing by the hour) knows that controlling the client to the extent they stay focused on business, and they don't take more time than needed, is of utmost importance.
You are the only one that can stop your clients from staying longer than is expected. You don't have too be a clock watcher, but you do need a sense of time.
IMVHO.
It seems more and more clients expect a 1 hr appt is equal to 90 mins. They aren't always seasoned clients but not a clock-watcher to them means showering is typically off the clock. They show up early leave late and before you know it that 60mim appt turns into a 90min.
I think it's changed a great deal, more ppl expect an expanding timeline. That's all I'm stating. Take it or leave it. No worries.
Which is going to hell in a hand basket quickly.
Entitlement is out of control in every aspect of every business...employers of employees
Employees of employers etc etc
The way we are treated in the service industry as customers in lots of cases.
Pride, honesty and a good work ethic are going the way of....the tucker the Edsel, Pontiac and Oldsmobile lol
People are pushing for more and more bang for their buck...in everything.!!!!!!!!!
Weather its for pay or play doesn't matter...it is everywhere.
The frekin ENTITLEMENT generations cup has runneth over into mainstream far to much....grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Seems there is a ...if you can't beat them. Join them attitude.
Just my .02
People, especially newbies, come to these boards to find out what the real deal is with certain things.
If they read that this or that guy stretched an hour to 75 or even 90 minutes, then they are more likely to feel that is the norm and take advantage of that fact.
Your post serves to brush that thinking back a bit; and I think that is good for providers and clients.
I am sure I am going to take a beating for this but...
Most providers want you to shower when you enter, the average shower takes 8 minutes. Most guys need to shower after appointment so they do not return to wife smelling like sex, another 8 minutes. So that is a whole 16 minutes. If a provider charges 300 for an hour that means a gentleman is paying $80 dollars to shower. If a provider charges $400 then its $106.67 for a shower. Thats alot of money for a shower. If you add the 16 minutes onto the hour you are still making $3.95 cents a minute. Maybe I am just too damn practical or maybe I work a real job full time so I understand reality.
My gripe is with people who chronically book an hour and try to stay for two or two and a half hours because they are "special."
These "special" guys also like to mark their territory by using 8 different towels. And if I comment on this behavior, I get the whole, "Why? Do you have OTHER appointments tonight?!" combined with an aghast sideways glance.
It's a psychological chess game. They know darn well what they are doing... which is why I find it so vexing! Lol.
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or even see it as weakness. If you have a problem with a client you need to tell them. Posting on ter under an alias is like preaching to the choir. As a provider you have choices, you can either confront the person that is giving you the problem or just not rebook the client. I know it can be uncomfortable saying something but allowing someone to be disrespectful towards you will only build resentment
I love the guy who thinks that 8am shower is good at 4pm? not putting my mouth on anything that does not smell and taste like soap..Shower 15 minutes before you arrive if you have a problem with time..Its not coming out of my cut
The longer you stay the more you pay, so why should I watch the clock LOL??????