I looked at the review database, searched it a number of different ways, and determined the following:

Of all reviews in the database:

4.36% were of sessions taking place in or around Boston.

2.99% of reviews were for agencies/independents with area codes in 617, 857, 781, 508, 978, 403 (all MA).

However, given those percentages, only 23.85% of all reviews having taken place in or around Boston were sessions with MA area agencies/independents (1.04% of overall reviews in the database).  Also it means about 65% of business for local providers comes from sessions scheduled outside Boston, probably from "tours" -- 1.95% of the entire database vs the 1.04% which are scheduled here.

That means, generally, 76.15% of the time men who live in or visit Boston (while they are in Boston) choose to be with providers who are not from Boston.  And, of all the business that local providers do, about only 1/3 comes from men who live in or visit the area.

I'd like to do a comparison of other major metropolitan areas, but I don't have a collection of known area codes for other places.  For example, most of the major area codes for South Florida, DC, NYC, LA, Chicago...

I'm in awe! I bet your favorite sport is baseball, I've always said it is the sport for compulsive statisticians. One caveat, we don't know how representative of all hobbyists the review database is. Crunch on my friend!

If you have the time and motivation for this... here are the area codes:

http://www.bennetyee.org/ucsd-pages/area.html

Good luck!

Milton

Oooo, thanks Milton.

Yeah, it's obvious now I'm a compulsive stats guy.  Imagine what I could do with raw access to the database!

I think, really, although the numbers seem somewhat dreary in regards to the perspective of options for local guys and guys visiting Boston, I think it's actually a shining light of opportunity for local providers/agencies - that there is a huge untapped percentage of available business, and the trick is finding out how to win that business.

The trick might not actually be hard to figure out.  Probably in plain sight.  It is as simple as determining what experiences are driving men to choose women outside of Boston more often than not, and those experiences are available in the reviews.  Ratings of looks, performance, and what kind of threshold of issues guys are willing to deal with in order to see a lady.  Compare and find the elements of greatest discrepancy.  Once found, encourage the providers to pay attention to those elements, improve on those things.  Sorry to say but a big thing for most men IS a woman's appearance and that can be easily improved by proper diet and regular exercise.  Another big thing for guys is the difficulty of getting in contact and setting up appointments, and having those appointments honored and on time.  The bigger the hassle, the more likely guys will opt for another option.  It might be time for the bar to be raised in that regard.

BTW, not sure if I'm mistaken, but Rosanna looks familiar.  I'm not an avid strip club visitor, but stopped by a couple of RI clubs this year and seem to recall a girl who looked a lot like Rosanna, even had dental braces like Rosanna (in her more recent pictures, it looks like they're now off).  Is Rosanna an ex-dancer or perhaps still dancing?

Dear VirilCzar,

You are welcome

> Yeah, it's obvious now I'm a compulsive stats guy.  Imagine what I could do
> with raw access to the database!

I don't know if I agree with your conclusions. I have been working as a number cruncher myself for several years and I am not sure I would draw the same conclusions. But as I don't have the time and motivation to do the work I can't argue with you.

> ... I think it's actually a shining light of opportunity for local providers
> /agencies - that there is a huge untapped percentage of available business,
> and the trick is finding out how to win that business.

That was my viewpoint even before your conclusions.

> The trick might not actually be hard to figure out.  Probably in plain sight.

You are right.

> ... Another big thing for guys is the difficulty of getting in contact and
> setting up appointments, and having those appointments honored and on
> time.

Quite easy to make it work well.

> BTW, not sure if I'm mistaken, but Rosanna looks familiar.  I'm not an avid
> strip club visitor, but stopped by a couple of RI clubs this year and seem to
> recall a girl who looked a lot like Rosanna, even had dental braces like
> Rosanna (in her more recent pictures, it looks like they're now off).  Is
> Rosanna an ex-dancer or perhaps still dancing?

She never did it. Must be another lady.

Best regards,

Milton

So tell us what your agenda is. Every post from you is in one way or another telling us how bad the local women are here. Which, BTW, I strongly disagree.

So move along now, tell us what your agenda is. You sound like you are schilling for the travelling agencies and it's getting old.

His math is fuzzy too. I did a quick survey of my ATF's reviews and a few other local favorites. My conclusion was just the opposite of his. 2/3 were local guys and 1/3 were from out of town. His survey is also flawed in that it doesn't take into account all the local's regulars and repeats. Something his traveling girls will never have is a regular.

I've been critical of Boston's shortage of local gfes before but now find myself in the position of defending the few fine ladies we do have. Viril Czar strikes me as one of two types. A shill, as jae says or a egomaniac. The former will be proven soon enough, but the later I have no doubt. To say that all the local indies are flakes,smell, deduct ten years off their age etc.etc. is ridiculous! Okay, I'll give you that we may have more than our fair share of BBW but heh, a lot of these guys love those gals! I've said it before and I'll say it again, travelers are a dime a dozen and always will be. There is nothing like building a repport with a local lady. It's part of the true meaning of GFE.,not a bunch of acronyms. But what do I know. I'm just another one of those freakish on edge and totally clueless inept American guys who sees the smelly locals.

No offense Milton, but I think Lisa in Portsmouth is right. Rosanna does look a little like Nellie Olson. Not a bad thing ,just something about the hair and shape of her face.


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I think this is basically a matter of someone with too much time on their hands.  If I analyzed , criticized and diligently sniffed every client I would be a miserable, stressed out person. I have the distinct feeling that Viril is this critical in his personal and professional life.  I try to look for the good in people instead of sitting back throwing daggers.  If being in the "hobby" is such a hassle then why the hell bother? When I read into personalities like this all I can say is "thank God I'm single!"

For all you Bostonians that enjoy us local, non-perfect, vivacious, sensual, sexy providers I wish you all Happy Holidays.

Rose  

Boston Men: I love you!

I love each and every single of one of you, even those I haven't met! Thank you all for the support of us local ladies

Love, Hugs, and Kisses,

Mel

I happened to have a bit of time to look through the database, and am just relaying the numbers.  I don't know how accurate they are to reality, they just happen to be what I found based on doing searches against the entire TER database of reviews.  Anyone else can do the same thing.  It's not rocket science.

I don't have any agenda other than my own pursuit of pleasure.  I do have opinions.  If my opinions offend you, you don't have to read my posts.

When I have some more time, I'll use the list of area codes in the URL provided by Milton (appreciated) to do a comparison.  Even if my numbers don't present a 100% accurate picture (what could?), a reasonable comparison of other cities might shed some light on overall trends.

Personally, I think it's useful info for anyone to have, both clients and providers.  You can disagree if you want, I don't care.

When figuring out statistics the data you got may be correct but did you ever think how many local providers work in boston?  I know I have done incall there 2 times in 3 years. I didn't bother to count how many of my reviews were from boston as that would be far too much work at 2 am. Also, I looked at three local providers and counted number of reviews and can I just say the number of reviews varied greatly from provider to provider. Does that mean that one sees more than others or does it mean that they just see men that post reviews?  Like I said before I am not going to argue with the data you analyzed because I have no desire to analyze the data myself.  One provider I analyzed who I know to be excellent had ten reviews.  Do you think she would still be in business if that was a true and accurate account of her clients.  I think the theory is good but it has many flaws.  So when you are compiling stats next time you might want to truly research the data.

Crystal, you are so right.  A small fraction of my reviews vs. encounters are actually posted.  This is due to the fact that I see many of the same regulars and also that they are the busy executive types who do not spend much time reading the boards, never mind post reviews.  There are many guys that enjoy the comfort and personal attention that seeing the same local provider(s) brings.

The way I see it, if the agenda was to promote traveling girls, who cares.  A woman's local reputation is what counts and personally I'd rather have steady clientelle than have a million different d@cks stuck in me so I have 10 pages of reviews.  

I have been a traveling provider and I've spoken to other ladies who basically live out of a suitcase.  Although I love my NYC and DC friends, I am very careful not to travel too much.  It's a way to get old very fast and become detached from your roots.  The volume issue reduces men to phone numbers and e-mail addresses when you are on the road.  It amazes me that men don't realize they are basically visiting a car wash.

If that is the mentality of a guy, I will probably not want to see him anyway. I turn away those so proud of their list of reviews all the time (just did that today!). I have always felt this way, and a few guys out there always get pissy when I address the volume/traveling issue.  Somehow their fantasy includes feeling that they were special to the traveling provider.  I will admit I have a few special client friends I see when I travel, but the rest are just appointments.  So, when you see 10 pages of reviews on an indy or a well spoken of agency girl guys, rest assured you are just an appointment.

To each his own, but I would prefer to remember my client's names and preferences and most of all faces.  Sorry if I offended any of you guys, but this business is smoke and mirrors.

Thanks for another absolutely fantastic year!

Kate xoxoxo

HO, HO, HO

I think you might be surprised to know that many gents like to keep their encounters private.  K

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There are many that don't take surveys as well.  As you said my girl it is called being discrete. They are the hobbyiest below the rader but they count too Many men dont post,review or take surveys, all they do is read the boards and enjoy the hobby.

After diligently sniffing all of the providers, I wonder if he looks like this?

It's kind of funny... some people are thinking I spent a lot of time looking through the database.  I don't think I spent any more than an hour, and another 5 minutes with a calculator, 10 minutes posting.  But the conspiracy theories abound, accusations of shilling, misinterpreting my comments, LOL.  You guys are putting me in stitches

Voyageur was probably right about one thing - I'm an egomaniac HAHAHA

Jaejae & voyageur - I want to hear more of your conspiracy theories, they sound fascinating.  You guys are doing good work, really, protecting everyone through suspicion and name-calling.  I’m proud of you.

Lady Rose - There are a few Boston ladies who are at least honest, they seem to be the ones who post on this forum.  However, not my cup of tea and I couldn't possibly have a bad experience with you since you're simply not what I seek out, but at least I know that because of the honesty, accurate pictures, etc.  The women who post to this forum, however, are not representative of the quality of service the rest of Boston and Eastern MA has to offer, let alone how those women advertise themselves.  Some of you ladies seem to be taking my comments personally, that is obviously under your control not mine.

As Kate said, this business is smoke and mirrors.  And, there is no "one size fits all" so any preference I have that is different than what any of you agree on is MY preference, and it's what I seek out.  So many of you are getting uptight because I'm talking about whatever is on my mind rather than acting like a lemming.

I wasn't even interested before in posting reviews or posting here, until I had an opinion to share.  So it's only fair for me to submit reviews which I started to a couple days ago... I guess they take time to trickle in.