You haven't indicated that you intend on returning to providers in your state, perhaps you are asking here because you have no other resource.  Still, I am choosing to comment because I once had a client come through my door with warts.  
I refused and excused him.
He called approximately one month later and said
"I went to the doctor, you were right!  I did have genital warts but they're all treated now!" and asked for an appointment.

If you experience or develop any symptoms of sexually transmitted disease or infection you need to seek professional medical help immediately.  This isn't the sort of thing you guesstimate or muddle through on WebMD.com & in your pharmacy aisle.  There are a number of private testing facilities and clinics that you may visit if you would prefer not to see your PCP.

I've read a number of alarming threads here on TER in recent months discussing STDs and I am aware that some clients are operating with the notion that providers are walking petri dishes with little concern for our health or sexual honesty & social responsibility.  The fact those who express these ideas continue to actively patronize providers in spite of their assertions that we are uneducated and don't monitor our health tells me they don't respect themselves- let alone a provider.  

I nearly responded to Nicole's post below with my own story of how a client "getting over a cold" gave me the flu (which left me with a $1k week long hotel sick bed)- there are a number of clients who don't understand that despite the activities which go on a great many providers are vigilant about their health and testing schedule.
Frankly, I'm glad you made this post- periodically we all need a reality check to open the lines of communication on this subject and work to continually educate ourselves.

Do the right thing- see a medical professional, alert recent partners (non-professional and professional alike) and remove yourself from this arena.

I'm very sorry to hear of your misfortune and despite the fact that you haven't fully identified her I hope that this provider isn't being inaccurately maligned.

Good luck and take care of yourself in the New Year.

its a virus and once you have it its yours for life.
Please feel free NOT to share it here. I agree you need to be finished with p4p as of now.
You DO need to go to a Dr. You need professional help with this.

Good luck

He made a mistake like we all do.I do not know much about warts so like Eltgolf or anyone has any info please help him out.I know this much he could go to an Aids clinic even if its not AIDS and get treatment annonymously.So hang in there brother

you are Fuckin Crazy!

Look if he does and passes it on to one of the girls,
then she passes it on to you
are you still gonna think its ok?

Now this is an example of Selfish Prick behavior!!!

I am guessing if you became infected you'd just play away the hell with our health.

*note to self...DNS the OP as well as this guy*  am wondering if you use an alias because this is your practice.

I wasn't calling anyone a selfish prick.
I said,
IF he keeps playing knowing he can pass it along to infect others,
SHE becomes infected and then possably you...

His behavior, since he knew he had a contagious non curable virus HIS behavior is that of a selfish prick.

this is why we need to know about sexual health. Condoms are not all there is to sexual health.
HE need to go to the Drs and back away from this playground for good. He is now contagious.

Got warts from traveling girl who I have not seen posted again so i can't warn you you it was other then she called herself Yumi form Japan. My real question it if there is a way of clearing them up short of seeing my PCP or going to a clinic?

do not play around with health. See a doctor, man. If your relationship with your PCP is such that you don’t want him knowing how you got these things {whatever that reason may be}, find another doctor that your insurance takes.
I totally understand the desire to try and keep this off the grid, but we shouldn’t mess around with the safety of Mr. How Do-Ya-Do.

First, how to you know it was her?
Second, yes you have to go to the doctor. genital warts are a form of HPV and you have to get treated for it.
Third the only way you get it is if this provider gave you a BBBJ and she had the warts in her mouth or you went BBFS with her. That's the only way. I do I know, no I don't have the virus, let's just say I'm in the medical field.
I have to tell you I think that you just shot yourself in the foot by posting this question.
All I have to say is, Man what were you thinking when you posted this topic???

rkaslow.......I think I know what you are referring to and I don't think you mean any harm, but to my knowledge there aren't places that are called AIDS Clinics. I think you are referring to a Free Clinic. Many issues that are not STD related are addressed at Free Health Clinics..........(just thought you should know)

DrStrider1 a couple questions for you:

1. How do you know for sure exactly where you got HPV?

2. Without being properly diagnosed via a REAL MD who can give you the correct medical test.... how do you know you have HPV?


My personal opinion is......this either has to be a joke, or you are a sexually active uninformed adult. A sexually active uninformed adult who is also involved in the hobby is not a good combination.

You should know that you cannot be diagnosed via a message board. You have to go to a doctor MONDAY MORNING.

If you go to your private physician the information is kept in your medical file, if you go to a free health clinic, the information would be maintained on an anonymous bases.

..........and I know all this information because I am an informed sexually active ADULT.

Sorry to hear of your misfortune.  Here are some things you should do:

1.  Arrange to be evaluated, tested and treated ASAP.  This process can be initiated through your primary care MD or on an anonymous basis through a reproductive health clinic.

2.  Abstain from the hobby until this condition is cleared up.  While it is true that there is no cure, since you will always carry the HPV virus, the condition is treatable, and the chances of passing on the infection become negligible when the active lesions have resolved and the virus lies 'dormant'.

3.  I don't like aliases, but this would be a situation where the use of an alias would have been advisable.  However, it is too late for that now.

If you decide to go through a reproductive health clinic, I can recommend Health Quarters.  They have several facilities in the area and you can find them through the link below.  Pay with cash if you want to remain anonymous.  While I have been fortuante enough never to have a problem like this, given the risks of the hobby, I do get checked regularly.  

Good luck!

DJ

I've been called fucking crazy before, but I think selfish prick might be a first, so thanks for that.  

My understanding is that you always carry the virus, but that when the lesions are treated and disappear the condition goes into remission.  The condition is not contagious between outbreaks, as far as I am aware.  I have never had it, so I have no personal experience and am willing to stand corrected if someone else knows for sure.

I am a bit confused about your reference to an alias.  I am not using an alias.  If anyone wants to DNS me, that would be their choice, but I have been in the hobby for a long time without any issues.  I take my health and that of my partners seriously.  I get checked regularly, and would abstain if there was any suggestion of a problem.  In reference to a previous post, I don't even play if I have a cold or think I am getting one.

Happy New Year!

DJ

Hi Guys & Gals,

Nicole's response prompted me to look for accurate information about HPV transmission, and so I went to the CDC site.  Here is what they had to say:

"Most sexually active people get genital HPV. You’re more likely to get genital HPV if you have: sex at an early age, multiple sex partners, or a sex partner who has had multiple partners."

"Many treatment options are available for genital warts. But even after the warts are treated, the virus (genital HPV) may remain and be transmitted. For this reason, it is not clear if treating genital warts lowers a person’s chance of giving genital HPV to a sex partner or not."

Here is a link to a patient information booklet that can be downloaded from the CDC website:

http://www.cdc.gov/std/hpv/common-downloads.htm

The scary thing is that most carriers of HPV are asymptomatic, and so you could be at risk of contracting the virus from a person who carries the virus but has no lesions, and at lest 50% of sexually active adults are carriers.
 
Food for thought, but now I'm off to celebrate New Year!

DJ

for the OP or anyone who has had contact with the OP or anyone who has had contact with anyone who has had contact with him...and so the dominoes fall:

Since men do not have cervix' the diagnosis of HPV in men is next to impossible. There are no medical test for HPV in men.

So unless the OP had an outbreak and went to the doctor during his outbreak to have his warts physically examined, there would be no way to confirm or deny his story.

Furthermore, HPV is a VIRUS Sir.........you could have contracted it several years ago  (let's see how that could've happened: oh I dunno free love movement, one too many drinks and had yourself a one nighter, a civvie girlfriend had it and didn't know it, a provider had it and didn't know it, college, high school) anyways you could have had an outbreak just that one time....never noticed the lesions (which most people do not notice them) and the virus....went dormant.....it could very well be that the virus decided to show up NOW and you happened to notice your pecker was a wee bit unusual.

Sorry, you can get genital warts with a condom on.  Straight from my doctors mouth condom or not if there is skin to skin contact even with a condom on you can get the warts

For anyone who is interested, here is a link to a place in Haverhill that does anonymous testing for such things. No insurance info needs to be exchanged.

You DO need to get this looked at by a doctor. If you do not want to see your PCP or small clinic, go to MASS GENERAL HOSPITAL. They have a large “infectious disease”  - “foreign travel” clinic.  You will have to register, but you will be seen for free if needed.  This is the same clinic I go to when I am traveling out of country and need to get  “shots”  for some of those "foreign" countries. So you will not stand out in the crowd.  Do not think your problem will go away by itself….it wont!!

Got warts what to do,are you freakin kiddin me,why you askin us what to do,ask a doctor and why would you let the nation what you got anyways.Just sayin

Hi Nikkey,

I don't think we are in disagreement.  

1.  The condition (genital warts) can be cleared up with the appropriate treatment, but can recur subsequently.

2.  After the condition (genital warts) has resolved, the person affected is still a carrier of the virus and can transmit it to others through sexual contact.

I have learned from my own misconceptions that the best source of information is not a message board, but a medical professional or a reputable resource such as the CDC.

Happy New Year!

DJ

this way we can blacklist him and he doesn't start an epidemic.
He is on the Boston board, I am guessing hes from the same area most of us are.
We need to keep each other safe by avoiding the troubled issues, HPV is big trouble.

I agree. That's what any responsible adult should do. Although GW is not life threatening, it is still potentially a life long condition. In a committed relationship, a significant other might understand and be ok with it. In p4p, that's definitely not the case.

Disclaimer: I’m NOT a medical doctor, although I have some considerable medical background.

To the OP, my best advice is to seek the help of a specialist dermatologist with experience managing genital warts or the help of an STD clinic professional. I wouldn’t recommend a PCP for this.

Most health care professionals consider genital warts an inconvenience rather than an immediate health risk as I will explain in a second. PLEASE DO NOT MISINTERPRET THIS! You still need to suspend all sexual activity immediately and discuss the ramifications/long term implications with a health care professional.

There are more than 60 types (strains) of the HPV virus. Research suggests that more than 90% of genital warts are caused by four strains of HPV. These four strains are considered low risk strains – although they cause GWs, these four strains are not responsible for HPV related cancers, thus being considered an inconvenience. The treatment of warts removes the visible growth but does not cure the virus. There is very little known about what happens to the virus after the warts are removed, but most research again suggests that if you don’t have another outbreak in 2 or 3 years, then *most probably* your immune system has got rid of the virus.

Having said that, genital warts are highly contagious. Unfortunately, it is not known if removing the warts reduces/eliminates the chance of infecting future sexual partners, thus the need to discuss long term implications with your health care professional.

Now, the really scary part. High risk HPV strains responsible for cancers (cervix, penile, and anal) do not produce any visible symptoms or warts. Many people carry the virus and are contagious without even knowing it. There is no practical method right now to screen for HPV in men. The virus is spread by skin to skin contact, so condoms may help reduce but cannot eliminate infection.

one good thing has come out of this and that would education.A lot of good info

Hi Nicole,

Please consider the following two quotes from the HPV fact sheet at the CDC website (linked at the end):

"The types of HPV that can cause genital warts are not the same as the types that can cause cancer."

"It is not clear if there is any health benefit to informing your (future) sex partners about a past diagnosis of genital warts. This is because it is not known how long a person remains contagious after warts are gone."

The first quote explains the second. Thus, as I mentioned in my detailed reply to the OP, most health care professionals consider GWs an inconvenience rather than an immediate health risk. The real risk is the HPV strains that can lead to cancer and don't have any visible signs until too late. That's what we all need to be scared of/worried about. Unfortunately, right now there is no way to early-screen people for those HPV strains. So it is really a catch-22.

I'm not encouraging anyone in any way to hobby with GW -- I'm merely mentioning the known facts. My advice to the OP again is to suspend all sexual activity immediately and seek professional help and discuss the long term implications with a qualified health care provider.

Still... I'm NOT a medical doctor.


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its still contagious and I still don't want it. in my opinion he needs to be done here no matter which one he has he is still contagious.
Its not always certain when exactly a virus becomes active there isn't always a sign but someone can still be passing along the virus. And often even before the warts show up one can be spreading it to others.
this isn't like being a little annoying its a virus he no longer should play here.

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A vaccine ius available for HPV.  All providers should take advantaage of this protection before they become affected.  It should also be considered by sexually active men, especially if they are in the hobby.  Prevention is everyone's responsibility.

Just as a note, I am only a part time hobbyist, about every 4 months, and I have never been bare back every in th hobby or in real life... The outbreak started one will after seeing a girl who has disappeared. I have stopped all activities since, and am getting help. there is little doubt who gave it to me, and if I see here posted again i will put up a warning.

it can lay dorment in your system for years. If and I am guessing you haven't been tested before for this then you have no idea where it came from.
So sinceyou are all done here are you still going to read the boards on a reg basis looking for her posts? Whats the point in that?
Move on with your life, it just seems non productive.

Good luck

I NEVER post here, but I couldn't help myself after seeing all of the misinformation. I'm not criticizing, it's understandable. Here are some things I saw in the other posts that you should do your own research about:

1. You must have unprotected sex to get the virus. WRONG -- it's not transmitted via body fluids, just brushing the skin around your genitals does the deed. It's true that it can be passed orally, however.  There's really no protection against genital HPV, except a full-body condom I suppose.

2. Your health is in danger. WRONG -- HPV is almost completely harmless -- to men. It is a virus that does cause cancer however, especially in women. That's why women get the annual pap smear, to detect HPV in the cervix that causes cervical cancer. There are equivalent cancers for men caused by HPV, such as penile cancer, but they are extremely rare.

3. You have HPV for life -- NOT WRONG, but misleading. For most people, their immune system overcomes the virus after a year or two, the warts go away, never return, and there would be no way to detect the HPV in your skin cells. But it is suspected that the virus does hang around indefinitely, and some people become carriers without any external symptoms.

4. You're done with sex. WRONG. More than half of all sexually active people (some estimates are as high as 80%) ALREADY have HPV or have had it in the past. It is the most common STD in the world. So, if having HPV means you're done with sex, there'd be 150 - 200 million people in the US that would be stuck forever with Rosie Palmer.

5. You need to abstain for the time being. RIGHT. Stop right now. Don't be a jackass and pass it on.

6. "I got it from a travelling lady.." MAYBE. You've got no way of knowing from whom you got it. The incubation period varies tremendously, from a couple of months to years. You might have got it from your wife back in 1995 and the damn thing just decided, out of the blue, to make warts on your dick right now.

7. Get the GARISIL vaccine. Excellent advice for 13-yo girls. I don't know if they'll even give the vaccine to adults. Once you've been exposed to any form of HPV -- even the form that gives you common warts -- I don't think the vaccine is effective. Not sure about that, might want to do some more research.

There are no really great treatments for genital warts. You'll get good results with the topical cream known generically as Imiquimod, marketed as Aldera Cream. Only about 30% of men get complete clearance with Imiquimod. Women do much better. You'll need to see your doctor to get it.

Other treatments, such as cryosurgery, work immediately but the warts often come back. Some have had excellent results with combination therapy, cryo plus imiquimod. There are some home remedies out there, the most popular being --no shit -- duct tape occlusion therapy. I think it sounds like BS myself, I'd recommend the Imiquimod. Just make sure and get the scoop on the side-effects of imiquimod before you use it, everyone has them and they're easily tolerated by most. But if your doctor doesn't warn you it'll scare the crap out of you.

To really do your research start with the Centers for Disease Control web site.

Thank you for the info I just wish you had posted earlier in the thread as now you are on the almost irrelevant "Page Two"