I said she "pissed off many girls and ONE rolled over" she was a bitch to many of the girls. I'm sure when you have that many girls working they can suck but if you don't think they play head games your fucked  up. And yes Jill treated girls like shit and I am sure she knew all about this and that's why she bounced. This shit isn't a secret and I'm sure Chloe will roll if given the chance to see daylight. IMHO

I think this AG will squeeze as much as possible out of this. It's her favorite agenda item.

Have you any Grey Poupon?

fifty shades of gray pooped on already.

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lol spiffy tie

I really think bringing it out of the shadows would actually make the girls safer. Lumping everybody in the "trafficking" category isn't accurate or realistic. I hate to see somebody get in legitimate trouble for something that legitimately voluntary. You don't want to downplay legitimate trafficking concerns--some of the stories are horrifying--but it's not just one size fits all, that's what I find frustrating.

This has nothing to do with her.

this was pure carelessness.
Buying hotels for the girls
3 4 girls using the same room
Checking in at 10 am
they hang out in the bar
They smoke out front
chloe bought all their rooms
she held these parties
Paid for their flights
Stayed in some questionable hotels
lots of traffic in and out of those rooms
Maids DO pay attention

they got her on Pandering
Trafficking across state lines which makes it federal
money laundering  
and yes some on e rolled

heres your question...how did they find her they were either careless ie...too many girls in a room  
OR screening was poor
Howd they get Chloe... she was working that day and her girls knew where she was so they rolled on her\The hotels know what she looks like shes been around long enough...
Howd they get Red ...they have been watching these two since sept they knew where they were

None of this has any thing to do with Jill it was their own carelessness they got greedy and got sloppy
we forget this is NOT LEGAL!
you cant show up in the same hotel 4 weeks in a row seeing 6 clients a day and think no one knows what you are doing.
bull shit everyone knows  
Maids arent stupid!!

I have permission to tell you this  from Jill.
The reason she retired is  she has Breast cancer she has been battling it ever since.
She left to take care of herself
shes come a long way and she has a long road ahead
Please just leave her in the past as far as TER is Concerned Jill is retired...

Every one play safe and screen!

First off Chloe didn't buy there rooms she gave them a portion towards it. She also didn't put 3-4 girls in the same room. Girls always check in early at hotels Jill starting booking every morning st 10am . They stayed at the same hotels all the rest of you girls stay in. FYI they had her phone tapped so I think you should get your story straight. Because your all wrong.

... that Chloe took.  it has to do with the law, as inane as it is.  The "victims," I am fairly certain, were all over 18 years old, so none were minors, and while I don't know the details of the situation, I suspect that there was no coercion on the part of Chloe.  Thus, "victims" is really just a phrase that the State Attorney General is using to justify the raid.

Typically, the largest penalty is not due to "trafficking," but to tax evasion.

The point to my percentage was what she made had nothing to do with the allegations your charges . Of course there was no traffic and involve.  She was involved in pandering .  I think the money laundering charges going to be the biggest burning tire around her neck.

This article describes how LE turned writing a review into a felony...

http://reason.com/archives/2016/09/09/the-truth-about-us-sex-trafficking

Demand Abolition provided funding to the local prosecutor leading this case.  He has traveled to Boston several times in the last year.  

Demand Abolition wrote a press release when the bust in Seattle was announced.  They very much support ending demand and believe that adult, consensual prostitution contributes to what Ashton Kutcher described in WA DC with emotional testimony today as "modern slavery;" human trafficking.

It they haven't already, they will subpoena all communications, email accounts and phone/text records.  Personal identifying information will be used in future cases or, at the very least, to embarrass anyone involved as a predator.

Nor do you .

Nicole you myvdear are the one that's the ass here .. a fat ass too I might add!!!

Do you still feel safe with older organizations on here like BI and AD? or does this scare you from lobbying with any of them?

I feel like the fun just went out of the fun.. this is depressing..  
Doesn't matter who is an authority on what or what happened one way or the other.. this situation is a real bummer..

This whole thing really pisses me off and I feel terrible for Chloe and Red. They did nothing more than provide a service. This activity is legal in many countries and it should be in this country when it is between consenting adults. It is not exploitative when it is between consenting adults. Women don't need to be protected from a consensual act and a consensual act is not an egregious crime. It is not trafficking when the women are there by their own free will.  If it comes down to it this is one jury I hope I'm picked for.  All this being said it is probably smart to lay low for a while. And please all agencies scrub your books and protect yourselves and your clients.

To be or not to be that is the question.  

I have been at this fun little "hobby" for a year or two or three or well you get my drift. I like so many started and had no clue. I first sought out an "agency" and it was a disaster. i quickly learned that it would be beneficial to simply band with another lady and learn the industry oh my own. We would share expenses and travel costs whenever possible. We learned the industry together and to this day have a wonderful relationship. Agencies and groups will always be a target. Perhaps the said agency was good to the ladies but the truth is many are not and this is a fact. Ladies who are new my advice to you is to be your own boss. Find other seasoned vets and learn from them. Network with hobby gents whom have seen a fair number of ladies and ask for feedback. Everything from what should I wear to what toys and gadgets do you enjoy. This is like any other biz. Do your homework, invest in your advertising and materials such as attire and goodies for your day to day operation and you will find it to be very rewarding,

. Also if using a hotel don't raise red flags. As we have heard early check ins, hanging in the lobby or outside. Dressing like you are getting ready to walk the Vegas strip is another no no. Stay off hotel staff radar and don't stay too many days in one place. Take your trash with you and discard it outside of the property. also when its housekeeping time keep your visitors to a minimum! This Hobby should be run like a business  and those who understand this and conduct themselves as such will be very successful. Maybe take some Time and hang out at a hotel or two. Watch professional business woman when they check in. What are they wearing, how many bags do they have, how is their hair styled and shoes. Are they overpacked?. Last but not least don't be greedy and have some other career to fall back on.  

Good luck and stay safe everyone

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Chloe ran her business knowing exactly what she was doing,the risks and rewards . She got caught for I'm sure a lot of different reasons but primarily because it's illegal. So be careful and know when to fold em.

-- Modified on 2/16/2017 10:57:04 AM

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Jill was kind to her girls Chloe was terrible thats why she was turned in.

nope. She treated the girls like shit. Im not surprised at all. You cant treat girls who are making you thousands like total shit bags. Obvi not everyone will just take your shit...She deserved it. Jill was great to her girls thats why no one ratted on her, period!

Jill treated some girls like shit .... Chloe treated some girls like shit...Jill was smart enough to bounce Chloe not so much.

Great advice and So True!! Maturity, decorum and sophistication will NEVER do you wrong!! People will Always get jealous of others and engaging in this hobby, things like loyalty and discretion will get you Very Very Far. This 'world' really has no place for drama (yet, there is plenty of it) steering clear of ugliness, envy and jealousy (like that which is aforementioned on this thread) will usually keep you free from entanglements LE and otherwise. There are wonderful people on this site who are adults and act accordingly but clearly there are others who could use some 'maturity', possibly a manners class or in short just some CLASS!!
Be Well Everyone & Be Careful!

Everybody should read this

It warms my heart when I meet a mature, responsible and considerate lady in this industry. I love the mentality of helping each other out. Between references and referrals or just conversations with clients, keeping things courteous and supportive for each other instead of jealousy and bashing each other or writing fake reviews for other providers etc. is so unnecessary. Karma is a bitch and in the big picture when people cut each other down, they're hurting themselves too. Sometimes small minded individuals dont see the big picture until it eventually bites them in the ass.  

I love referring quality providers to clients interested in more. Always happy to do that if she is a lady who holds up and has my respect.  

Such a shame when jealousy/insecurity turns people into malicious informants. Its sad when people live their life around their resentments. The quality of a life lived like that is torturous Im sure.

Saw one of the ladies last year. No signs of any abuse. Really shocked to learn what happened to Chloe. Bliss!

Hate to ask, but does anyone know what happened to the two individuals caught up in this mess?  I assume there was a court date and that it ocurred.

I did not see anything more recent than May 4.

No... just some idiot making a comment on a thread that no one wants to see ever again....

I know it is on everyone's frontal lobe but please with the new format here...ugh!

Thank you and back to playing amongst yourselfs.

{Hug}

Hope TER goes back to the old format of threads in chronological order of OP...not replies!