You know the longer I am in this business the more amazed I am at some of the ways certain providers work
i  have never been one to refuse a reference. matter of fact I tell him please feel free use me as ref  any time you like to see another provider i want the guys to have a good time that's why they in this hobbie .
I have many gents I see semi regularly and  they use my name  for ref  lots of time s  I have no problem  whatsoever with that. I think its great for them to have new experiences. Sometimes a guy doesn't even think about seeing someone else and I will say, you should see so and so, tell her I sent you
but it come to my attention lately and i  m not the only provider who have that happen to them ( had 4 guys so far ) that the ladies that will provide a reference after she give you the ref for that client and then turn around and contact that client  and send him nasty email  just because he contact other ladies to see. I try to treat everyone as I would want to be treated and be helpful & supportive as I can I want them to have the best time possible.
I've found it's upsets clients because he doesn't understand why this  provider would send such nasty email to him just because he put her as ref. ladies you get to remember you are not dating  the client or married to him he is free to see who he choice to see  i don't think those client do deserve that kinda of treatment specially if he only see that provider  one time  if she does not want to give ref is fine just tell the client please don't use me as ref in future  they are client and stop trying to own them     that's why they are in this hobbie  . they like different woman and different taste  no guy need to go through that this been on my mind for sometime  but i thought i was the only provider that this happen to  and i just stop asking that providers for ref  since i feel so bad for the guys but seems that more and more of this happening . YOU GET TO REMEMBER YOU ARE NOT THERE WIFE or there GF    God if they want only be with one woman they would stay home and safe there $ LOL. LETS BE REAL LADIES AND STOP GIVING THE GUYS HARD TIME BECAUSE HE IS SEEING SOMEONE ELSE.belive me this only be hurting YOUR  business more than YOU think.  and believe me guys do talk to each other and your biz will get even slower than you think.  just thought  i hope those who doing this would stop belive me there is plenty for all
lets all play nice
OXOXOXO



-- Modified on 4/8/2003 9:09:50 PM

that is too bad, that it's happening like that. I do hope that this issue gets straightened out, and we all can be happy  clients and providers

Mel



-- Modified on 4/9/2003 8:30:56 AM

I totally hear you Linda, I also let them know that if they need a ref, I am more than happy to help. And when I get that e-mail asking for it, I don't daddle. I send it right away. I have been one the other side of that e-mail before, and not get an answer till a week later if not longer. By this time it is a bit too late. Share, and share alike( and nicely).The ladies you say writting the nasty letters, are only ruining themselves.
XOXOX
Tracey

at all after all they are  the client , Sweetie by the way i did  finish that banner sorry i m later i will email it today
oxoxo

-- Modified on 4/9/2003 4:10:34 AM

I don't know the circumstances, but is is possible that the client gave the reference without contacting the provider first?  If I am going to use someone for a reference, I will check with that person before giving out her name, as a courtesy.  That way, the provider is expecting to be contacted.  Maybe this provider was blind-sided by the request and took offense? Otherwise, maybe she has other issues.

just my .02

Linda I am not sure who you are referring too, but you would think whomever it is would realize that by attacking a client over asking for a reference is totally unacceptable behavior which a provider should be chastized if not blacklisted for. I too am the type of provider to tell ALL my clients " FEEL FREE" to use me as a reference. I am more than willing to help a guy meet someone new. Just because guys want variety ladies does not mean they do not like you. I have had a couple guys tell me no matter how good you are they will not go back for fear of getting attached. In fact it is good to move around a bit so the guys and girls can keep the no strings bylaw intact.
    Jealousy is a terrible thing. It ruins lives, it ruins futures, it in general is just a plain mean green no no. Lets all play nice....and hey if we are lucky we can play with eachother...over and over and over again. LOL Linda I applaud you for pointing out a very real problem that plagues the providers. Have a great week everyone. I know I am. GRRR!

I agree totally with Linda, HOWEVER..

I recently had a situation with a long standing client that I gave a GOOD reference to another provider for.  This client was seeing me for 8 months, and I cut him a deal financially.

In the interim, he spent half his time gossiping about two other providers he had previously seen, and even though I knew the providers, I never mentioned it to them.

After I gave the reference to the other provider, he went and wrote me that he was seeing me the following week and then wrote to her saying the same thing.  I then wrote to him saying that is normal to see other providers however out of RESPECT to me he should have been upfront rather than booking both of us.  His response was less than stellar and it degraded into nastiness.

I personally am an up front individual, and I encouraged the other provider to see this gentleman.  The point is, that there may be instances where providers do not wish to give out references, however sometimes out of the client's inability either to balance a situation or their awkwardness in seeing someone else, they will play providers against eachother, knowingly or not, and I certainly do not have a problem addressing this with anyone.

By the by, the "gentlemen" who I was seeing is immature to say the least, and the provider whom he was seeing before me he has some very, very nasty things to say about her.  Lucky for her I am a lady and NEVER repeated them..I also never told this provider that I was seeing him on a very regular basis as I knew it might hurt her feelings, despite the fact he still wrote to her on a regular basis.  Strange, no?

One must always get ALL the facts.  Contempt prior to investigation is a DANGEROUS food if eaten raw.  It is a consumer's market and everyone has the right to see whom they chose -- R-E-S-P-E-C-T is a two way street for all.

I get yelled at all the time..to call other providers for references that I should to be safer...Id rather bring my security with me... I make it a practice never to call any other girls...they have all been extremly rude... I always will give a reference...but...I wont ever ask for a reference and with the number of people I see in a week its too hard.......sorry ..thats just been my expierence....

-- Modified on 4/9/2003 3:43:28 PM

I can tell you that this is why provider references are something that are always secondary to me as well.  I'd rather check someone out myself because then you avoid all this garbage and I personally do not have the time for this stuff either! LOL

Melinda bad girl not giving references.  Just kidding.  You not only give references you endorse all the providers.  You got to start collecting that advertising fee.

As long as I can "cop" a feel of those delicious, full breasts and and run my hands over those round, full, boo-tAys, that is all the payment I would need from you lovely ladies LOL  Is this a good deal, ladies?  


Greedy, aren't I?

Love,

Mel

-- Modified on 4/9/2003 9:12:09 AM

I wanna watch !!!!!  i wanna watch...........and maybe lend a helping hand or tongue or something............lol

Now..now, cliff- i can see you drooling from here

Trust me, darlingcakes, all in good time

Love,

Mel

Re:Now..now, cliff- i can see you drooling from here

not drool............wanna take a lick and see if you can tell what it is????

JUST JOKING WITH YA YOU KNOW HOW I LOVEEEEEE TO LICK THE TOOTSIE POP TO GET THE CENTER OF THE HOLE MMMMEOWWW

MEL





-- Modified on 4/9/2003 11:14:03 AM

I don't understand why any of the other providers would be rude to you.  I'm not saying it doesn't happen but 99% of the women I have checked with in the past have been great about giving references. Everyone has their different views on the importance of checking references but personally I like to just to make sure that no one has had a problem with the gentleman in question.  However, that is not the sole factor in my determining whether or not to see someone.

Men review or check our reviews to find out about us.  They also post on the board with the usual "Does anyone have info on ______?"  It's part of the community on this board.  We have the same interest at heart...finding a provider or hobbyest that is best suited for us.

Insecurity never gets anyone anywhere. Jealousy is for married couples.  Pettiness is a lose-lose situation.

-- Modified on 4/9/2003 11:40:47 AM

well mel as you know I am no slouch in the licking dept. myself.....or so i am told....

Linda I am also the first to say to a client you can use me as a reference.And it doesn't mean they don't like you or won't be back variety is the spice of life.I had one client tell me like it is if I wanted to stay with one lady I would be faithful to my wife(HAHAHAHAHA)he meant though.He see's me and two other providers no big deal.I think you look bad if you don't give referrals for other girls on my days off.I have alot of clients call me for someone to see,cause they know they can't see me.I feel I would look petty and unprofessinal if I didn't give them a few names as I always do.Then they can make up their minds from the two or three names I gave them.I truely beleive in Karma and if you are selfish.DON'T BE SURPRISED IF YOUR BUSINESS IS LACKING!!!!!!Don't change Linda cause I am not,even though others are the way they are.LOL   HUGS Grayeyed Nicolexoxoxoxxo

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