Sammy, I enquired about CW ending with a facial...seriously, with all of these indy providers and newly inflated rates, how hard should this be?
This shouldn't even be a debate but, since you make a % off the providers fee, it is in your best interest to cosign and campaign as such. Good for anyone who can swindle fools who that are willing to pay for sub par service based on hype/ "brand" and not for service and attitude delivered with passion. End of the day it is a business and in business one only gets a raise for a job well done, not just because they feel like it. Ymmv will always apply but bbbj, fiv (c'mon, fingering a girl is 2nd base) are basic/standard gfe and for years pse being offered has pretty much been code for greek + additional fee.Private delights, trsyt (the ad board here is not much different now) have become a wasteland of providers who went the route of $600 + and their "no" list is literally every activity one would engage in with their gf.
No thank you.
Aside from making more money, there is no "good reason"
All of this comes off as nothing more than a lazy cash grab and sadly some fools are willing to pay for it.
Have a look at any of the boards right now and you will read that the general consensus is in step with the sentiments shared in this thread.
There is a lot of activity and price increases that do not reflect in GFE service.
It seems it is impossible to find providers that offer proper DT, sloppy, gagging and facials.
Any recommendations ?
DT, sloppy gagging, and facials are not part of standard GFE. If you're interested in ROI when meeting a provider, I would recommend XO Companions, who are imho the best-run agency around--but it seems like you are already a member. If you are interested in those specific activities, I would recommend booking a PSE session with a provider who offers that. There are plenty, but they charge higher rates.
All of my girlfriends did this and they were not porn stars 
The price increases we are seeing now are at the rate that PSE adverts were, minus the service. Nonsense.
Typically, PSE has usually meant that greek is offered and there will be an up charge.
So many indy providers have upped their rates but not the services to reflect.
Nearly every ad we see now has $6-700-1000 rates and state "No FIV, BBBJ,CIM, COF," which implies a very mechanical time is to be had and its all about the $.
At the rates indy providers are now asking, one can fly to MX and book two drop dead gorgeous providers for a few nights. Paying these astronomical rates for anything less than GFE is just foolish.
That said, Xoc is the standard now and providers should take note.
XOC is the standard yes but there is most usually an upcharge for FIV, BBBJ, CIM, COF, and for good reason.
The market is always evolving and there are amazing providers at different price points everywhere. The reason the indie providers keep charging higher rates is because it's sustainable. As I've said before, most ladies would prefer to see ONE standard showered gentleman for a multi-hour booking at 600/hour then five amazingly handsome clever brilliant beautiful hobbyists who pay 400 for an hour and ask about acronyms the whole time.
No, Sammy....you'd like that but we are saying that your 600 an hour bs and 650 for the first hour plus the uber ride plus this plus that plus xxxxxxxxxxxx is getting out of hand. The service my friend is still the same..... lame that is . And i'm a multi hour guy. Always have been. The rates today.....are pathetic
And I'll add that if you're coming over for that price , you best be leaving with my cum in your stomach.
Fair enough. You are entitled to your desires and I would never denigrate them.
All I'm saying is, the ladies I assist get enough business from clients who book long (I mean 4+ hours) at the rates they ask, so I don't think your path would ever intersect with mine. In fact, if you spoke like that--once again, well within your rights and no disrespect to your desires--when you wanted to book with someone I assist, you would be politely asked to look elsewhere.
There's been a shift in this industry as there is every few years. And ladies who wish to charge a higher rate are advertising on the same platforms on ladies who charge lower rates. In my opinion, the lady who charges 300/hour is as great as the lady who charges 600/hour. Often times it's a matter of marketing or something extraneous like using the rate as a way to deflect too many client inquiries. The ladies I assist only see one client a day, so that's all I need to find for them, and the price and marketing prioritizes the multi-hour clients who book well in advance vs same-day requests for all these acronyms. For example, most of the clients I'm talking to right now are planning dates in December and January.
But there are ladies who are as youthful, beautiful, passionate, etc who charge far less, book shorter dates with shorter notice, and they are worth seeing.
Every legendary provider like Penelope Archer or Ada Lovelace started off at lower rates. They didn't transform into different people when they decided to charge higher rates, it's just that they got better at their marketing and understood the value of how much clients were willing to pay for their time.
To me, it seems like you're quantifying the experience with a list of activities that you wish to check off like a check list. This is common among clients and you're welcome to it. It's a natural human condition to seek value for our investment. But there are others who don't have the combined conditions of limited budget AND expectations of a laundry list of specific services. Those are the clients that these higher-charging providers are targeting, not you.
Would you blame someone for trying to make more money from their business? If you were a provider, would you rather see multiple clients who would pay less, book for shorter amounts of time, and expect a lot more labor, or would you rather see fewer clients who pay more, book for longer amounts of time, and treat the experience like an actual date?
Sammy, I enquired about CW ending with a facial...seriously, with all of these indy providers and newly inflated rates, how hard should this be?
This shouldn't even be a debate but, since you make a % off the providers fee, it is in your best interest to cosign and campaign as such. Good for anyone who can swindle fools who that are willing to pay for sub par service based on hype/ "brand" and not for service and attitude delivered with passion.
End of the day it is a business and in business one only gets a raise for a job well done, not just because they feel like it.
Ymmv will always apply but bbbj, fiv (c'mon, fingering a girl is 2nd base) are basic/standard gfe and for years pse being offered has pretty much been code for greek + additional fee.
Private delights, trsyt (the ad board here is not much different now) have become a wasteland of providers who went the route of $600 + and their "no" list is literally every activity one would engage in with their gf.
No thank you.
Aside from making more money, there is no "good reason"
All of this comes off as nothing more than a lazy cash grab and sadly some fools are willing to pay for it.
Have a look at any of the boards right now and you will read that the general consensus is in step with the sentiments shared in this thread.
Well, you are clearly not that foolish, so why not find those wonderful pearls in this sea of angry oysters?
It's business. Why would someone make less money trying to appease a demanding guy's laundry list fantasy IF they can make more money eating at a fancy restaurant and then going home with a gentleman who's going to treat her like a new wife? (Granted, that's a big if, but that's why they hire me.)
Would you rather make less money doing more work for a client who spends his time complaining on boards or would you rather make more money while working less hard and truly enjoying your time?
My job is to make money for the providers I assist while simultaneously giving my clients a true GFE. For some, it means running through a laundry list off of of a 2 minute Pornhub clip they saw in the bathroom. For others, it means taking the ladies out on a date, showering them with affection, and getting true affection in return. Our clients have personal relationships with the providers which are not unlike a sugar baby relationship but with the added benefit of NO drama, NO fixed cost, either party can end the relationship at any time and I of course offer a layer of security and anonymity for both. This weekend I coordinated an 8 hour date for a lady who went to the MFA, got takeout from Uni, and then had a wonderful time with one of the most fascinating men on the east coast. The same lady also got, through me, around a dozen dick pics from a gentleman in his early 70s who demonstrated how well-endowed he was by inserting the tip of his penis into his anus. He wanted an hour date for 400 and had a list of acronyms. Honestly, which sounds more appealing?
Not saying you're not entitled to your desires. I respect that. Just saying that the combination of higher rates + more respectful clients + longer dates is more desirable than lower rates + less respectful clients + one hour dates demanding all sorts of acronyms.
Service is whatever a woman is comfortable doing at any particular moment for whatever she decides to charge. What are you complaining about? If you don’t like the prices go elsewhere. Better than MX (which I take to mean Mexico) you should go to the poorest country you can find where I’m sure you can choke someone on your jizz for next to nothing. Does anyone love you?
I know it's not Clone Wars or Chicken Wings.
and they have only one entry for that: content warning.
I don't think that is the use here, however.
I am thinking cock worship.