: Clarification : Discussion in Boston, posted by soflaguy44

Susquehanna6116 years ago1752 reads

My first thought is you should question how he passed your screening process, and what questions

you might have asked that would have led to denying him a date. A lot of guys won't send deposits for fear the opposite will happen--the lady will disappear with the cash. Of course, that's not likely an issue with well-established ladies, but neither is something like this LIKELY an issue with well-established guys either.

I want to be clear: I'm NOT saying this is YOUR fault. The guy should have been prepared. But it might have been the best thing to happen.

Since (I believe) you're relatively new, I'd scrutinize my screening requirements. I'm not sure what your five-hour donation rate is, but it's certainly not worth compromising your safety.

If it's NOT a screening problem, then you can chalk it up to a bum "client" and just learn from the various red flags that flew with this guy.

As to your original question, how to "report a bad apple", I'm SURE you'll get some advice from the ladies on this.

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kikikatt16 years ago1618 reads

RE: I wonder if there is a way to report bad apple clients because

Hi Zoe

It looks like you're new, so I certainly hope you don't beat yourself up about this. Things along similar lines have happened to ALL of us and the only things we can do are learn from our mistakes and alert other girls of what happened.

In the future, in addition to learning to screen like Sherlock Holmes, absolutely, positively ask for a deposit for such an extended session. You said this gentleman requested a 5 hour outcall and in addition to that, it was a 2 hour drive to and from his location. That's 9 hours of your time... most girls require a deposit for anything over 3 hours, so don't be afraid to follow suit. Some men may have reservations about sending deposits, but good clients understand the reasoning behind asking for one and will gladly comply.

As for warning other ladies about this guy, I believe you can become a part of the ladies board once you have 3 reviews (one more to go!); in the meantime you can have girls PM or email you for his information. Also, there are several other ladies only boards that will surely help keep you safe and prevent anymore incidents like this one from happening. If you'd like the links to those boards, feel free to PM me.

Stay safe, make boatloads of money and try not to let one asshole get to you. There will be plenty of wonderful clients in your future, I'm sure.

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Kennedy9316 years ago2513 reads

Im sorry that happened to you...

Posted By: Zoesosweet

I ran into a real jerk and I'd hate to have another lady get bamboozled by this guy. He called me requesting an outcall to his home..so I said Sure I'll be there at 9:00. I asked him to text me his address so I could googlemap it and get directions there.For some reason he didnt want to text it to me ..insisted that I write it down.. well ok then.. I live almost two hours away from where he wanted me to go but that wasn't a problem since he asked for a five hour session. I figured, it was worth the travel time. I called my roomate at work and asked her if she could drive me there and pick me up because I didnt want to get lost and I asked the guy if he minded that she was driving me because after all, if she drives then she also has his address and I consider that to be personal information..so I wanted to make sure he was ok with that. When I was about three quarters of the way there he called me and said that instead of coming directly to his apartment that I should call him when I get off the exit . He didnt say why ..I thought maybe he just wanted to know when I was getting close so I didnt question it. I called when I got off the exit but got no answer.I preceded to go to his apartment building and and hit the buzzer to his apartment to be let in..no response. Someone who I guess lived in the building opened the door to go in and i walked in behind her bypassing the whole getting buzzed in thing and went up to the apartment. He came to the door and looked very surprised to see me there but he looked me over and let me in..now is where I should mention that I do not like to have to ask for my gift..i like it to be where I can see it or have it handed to me without my asking ..so I didnt ..for about fifteen minutes and finally I just said..hey did you forget to get me a present? He then said that he didnt have any cash in the house and that we could go to the atm after the five hour session..I let him know that I wasnt going for that and that he needed to gift me beforehand or I was leaving..He said fine we'll go to the atm . I didnt really know if I should get in the car with him since he was acting weird but i figured since i was gonna have my roomie follow us there and back then he couldnt do anything too serious. At any rate we got to the bank drivethru and he kept forgetting his pin number..4 times .then he asked if I could take a check..I said no. He then says what if i give you cash and you take it and leave..I said if your nervous about that then just give me half now and the other half before I leave..then he says what if your a cop..and what if your roomate is a cop?..I asked him if he'd read my reviews before he called and he said he had . So obviously I'm not le ..He said yeah your right and reached over and kissed me ..and then began the whole Cant remember his pin number routine again..I got out of the car right then . I wonder now if I should ask for a deposit on multiple hour and long-distance sessions because I had to turn down other friends in order to give him that time-block. Not to mention the time it took to get there.. Help me out here..Is it ok to request a deposit for extended sessions or should I just trust that this sort of thing doesnt happen often..

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King_Hump16 years ago2772 reads

Screen.

People like the guy you met give other hobbyists a bad image. Get a VIP account so that you can send personal mail to providers that post comments. Ask them questions about how to screen potential clients. BTW, some legit hobbyists prefer to pay reasonable travel fees when a provider has a long drive.

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yardape0816 years ago1171 reads

You Always Come first

Glad to hear that you're okay and all you lost is time. Your safety should always come first. Thus guy sounds to me like he was more interested in vicarious kicks and annoying you. Always keep your BS meter on high alert and be prepared to walk if something doesn't feel right. You should have at a minimum a rudimentary screening process especially for outcalls-either provider references or at the least a board handle where you can read up on and obtain somewahat of a feel for the client. BTW your 3rd review is posted under Zoe Love and hopefully will be consolidated with the others. I find you to be a very sweet young lady and hope to see you again real soon. You were an absolute delight.

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sparkyusa16 years ago1096 reads

should have left

by reading your story i feal you put yourself in danger,i could see if you had seen him before and you were comfortable but please dont endanger yourself.

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downcitydivas16 years ago1893 reads

Post his info on the National Deadbeat Registry..Always collect up front

It is always horrible when a client tries to pull a fast one like that..After 8 years in the biz i have to admit it has happened to a few of our providers too. None of us like to feel like we have to collect upfront cuz it makes it feel too much like business and not a relaxed appointment but it is truly the only way to avoid issues with the donations. (after all this is your business) Especially on an extended booking it is crucial to make sure the full donation is paid up front or else you run the risk of them coming up short. Even the best of clients sometimes do this if they feel they will not see you again. If this unfortunate circumstance happens you can always post up their info on varias sites like the national deadbeat registry. You can also tighten up your screening procedures to help avoid this situation. Feel free to PM me if you have more questions.

Best Wishes
Scott
DCD

Posted By: Zoesosweet

I ran into a real jerk and I'd hate to have another lady get bamboozled by this guy. He called me requesting an outcall to his home..so I said Sure I'll be there at 9:00. I asked him to text me his address so I could googlemap it and get directions there.For some reason he didnt want to text it to me ..insisted that I write it down.. well ok then.. I live almost two hours away from where he wanted me to go but that wasn't a problem since he asked for a five hour session. I figured, it was worth the travel time. I called my roomate at work and asked her if she could drive me there and pick me up because I didnt want to get lost and I asked the guy if he minded that she was driving me because after all, if she drives then she also has his address and I consider that to be personal information..so I wanted to make sure he was ok with that. When I was about three quarters of the way there he called me and said that instead of coming directly to his apartment that I should call him when I get off the exit . He didnt say why ..I thought maybe he just wanted to know when I was getting close so I didnt question it. I called when I got off the exit but got no answer.I preceded to go to his apartment building and and hit the buzzer to his apartment to be let in..no response. Someone who I guess lived in the building opened the door to go in and i walked in behind her bypassing the whole getting buzzed in thing and went up to the apartment. He came to the door and looked very surprised to see me there but he looked me over and let me in..now is where I should mention that I do not like to have to ask for my gift..i like it to be where I can see it or have it handed to me without my asking ..so I didnt ..for about fifteen minutes and finally I just said..hey did you forget to get me a present? He then said that he didnt have any cash in the house and that we could go to the atm after the five hour session..I let him know that I wasnt going for that and that he needed to gift me beforehand or I was leaving..He said fine we'll go to the atm . I didnt really know if I should get in the car with him since he was acting weird but i figured since i was gonna have my roomie follow us there and back then he couldnt do anything too serious. At any rate we got to the bank drivethru and he kept forgetting his pin number..4 times .then he asked if I could take a check..I said no. He then says what if i give you cash and you take it and leave..I said if your nervous about that then just give me half now and the other half before I leave..then he says what if your a cop..and what if your roomate is a cop?..I asked him if he'd read my reviews before he called and he said he had . So obviously I'm not le ..He said yeah your right and reached over and kissed me ..and then began the whole Cant remember his pin number routine again..I got out of the car right then . I wonder now if I should ask for a deposit on multiple hour and long-distance sessions because I had to turn down other friends in order to give him that time-block. Not to mention the time it took to get there.. Help me out here..Is it ok to request a deposit for extended sessions or should I just trust that this sort of thing doesnt happen often..

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AngieRenee Love16 years ago1821 reads

You have a PM eom

Posted By: Zoesosweet

I ran into a real jerk and I'd hate to have another lady get bamboozled by this guy. He called me requesting an outcall to his home..so I said Sure I'll be there at 9:00. I asked him to text me his address so I could googlemap it and get directions there.For some reason he didnt want to text it to me ..insisted that I write it down.. well ok then.. I live almost two hours away from where he wanted me to go but that wasn't a problem since he asked for a five hour session. I figured, it was worth the travel time. I called my roomate at work and asked her if she could drive me there and pick me up because I didnt want to get lost and I asked the guy if he minded that she was driving me because after all, if she drives then she also has his address and I consider that to be personal information..so I wanted to make sure he was ok with that. When I was about three quarters of the way there he called me and said that instead of coming directly to his apartment that I should call him when I get off the exit . He didnt say why ..I thought maybe he just wanted to know when I was getting close so I didnt question it. I called when I got off the exit but got no answer.I preceded to go to his apartment building and and hit the buzzer to his apartment to be let in..no response. Someone who I guess lived in the building opened the door to go in and i walked in behind her bypassing the whole getting buzzed in thing and went up to the apartment. He came to the door and looked very surprised to see me there but he looked me over and let me in..now is where I should mention that I do not like to have to ask for my gift..i like it to be where I can see it or have it handed to me without my asking ..so I didnt ..for about fifteen minutes and finally I just said..hey did you forget to get me a present? He then said that he didnt have any cash in the house and that we could go to the atm after the five hour session..I let him know that I wasnt going for that and that he needed to gift me beforehand or I was leaving..He said fine we'll go to the atm . I didnt really know if I should get in the car with him since he was acting weird but i figured since i was gonna have my roomie follow us there and back then he couldnt do anything too serious. At any rate we got to the bank drivethru and he kept forgetting his pin number..4 times .then he asked if I could take a check..I said no. He then says what if i give you cash and you take it and leave..I said if your nervous about that then just give me half now and the other half before I leave..then he says what if your a cop..and what if your roomate is a cop?..I asked him if he'd read my reviews before he called and he said he had . So obviously I'm not le ..He said yeah your right and reached over and kissed me ..and then began the whole Cant remember his pin number routine again..I got out of the car right then . I wonder now if I should ask for a deposit on multiple hour and long-distance sessions because I had to turn down other friends in order to give him that time-block. Not to mention the time it took to get there.. Help me out here..Is it ok to request a deposit for extended sessions or should I just trust that this sort of thing doesnt happen often..

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Zoesosweet16 years ago1173 reads

IT's a NEW DAY !! YAY!!!

Thank you My Friends !! I was pretty bummed when I posted this and I was wondering how it could have been avoided..I'm trying to figure out a good screening process that both keeps me safe and doesn't make my new friends feel as though their privacy is being compromised ..that being said ,I will do more screening from now on and go with my gut instinct as well. My biggest mistake in this situation was that I had a nervous feeling about him from the beginning but I ignore myself rather than trusting myself. Aside from this one big meenie I have met the kindest new friends. Sweet , masculine ,sexy Kings and Soft and sexy Queens showering me with compliments and fun times..I am loving it!! Ideally screening wouldn't be necessary, but this the way things are..Oh well today is a brand new day and I'm not gonna let silly people get me down..My fellow Ladies of the night ..please pm me for this meenie mans info so you dont get tricked like I did..and thanks again for all the great advice You Guys Rock!!

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