The hobby has transitioned into BBBJ becoming a norm IMO.

In fact I know one who loves COF, but not CIM; and yet another that loves CIM, but not COF.  Go figure.

But there are all kinds of interesting things that gals can do to my liking, and it doesn't have to involve any cum getting above their necklines.  If a gal has a good spirit and good skills, I'm a happy camper.

Roughly 10% will CIM based on my experience.  Not a deal-breaker by any means for me.  

Most girls I see do or would  

Been with couple of great CBJ ladies and perhaps meeting a couple more soon.
 Its very individual thing what you want. For me things like kissing Lfk/dfk and daty carry
More weight than bbbj.

I agree that it's totally individual, but I must say that if the girl LOVES one or the other (CIM, COF) it's a reason see them again

For me, when I'm paying for GFE, I expect BBBJ-CIM.  (I actually get more turned on by BBBJNQNS, but don't always get that.)  It could be a deal breaker depending on other variables.  

bbbj is one thing but cim and swallowing isnt really a gfe discription.
the gfe ideal is cuddling kissing passion.
every time you turn around someones trying to add more to it.

I agree, Although CIM is not a requirement for GFE(BBBJ DATY DFK) it is a plus on the St.B. scale and if you swallow you get another plus.  

Yes I agree cim in is pse and this is why I emphasize on my website that I am gfe but also enjoy pse with select gentlemen and open to new clients xxo

I disagree that CIM or CIM+swallow is PSE. I would characterise it as a "bonus."
I also agree CIM is not really GFE since in my experience with real "girlfriends" only one has ever swallowed - and she was just a little trashy to be a LTR but I was into her at the time.

.......well lol that's what I've done with my real life boyfriends that i've given oral to *shrugs*. So......in the hobby for the most part as part of what I considered to be GFE never thought of either as a big deal. But then again I know friends who will give oral to a bf but won't allow CIM let alone swallow......guess we're all just different types of girlfriends lol.

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i do greek BB swallow the whole 9yards with my past REAL BFs they were my real BFs this is pay for play and Im not willing to go all that far for a buck.

Am I GFE you bet...do I swallow, nope.

its all up to interpitation really.

I read a post a while back where someone said they expected Greek in a GFE encounter, this is why i say ppl seem to wanna push the interpritation.
if you are gfe and wanna go all out by all means go for it. my point was basically i feel theres more some expect than most are comfortable with.

Swallow is a bonus, not "required" for GFE but, for me, CIM is an important part of GFE.  If you put yourself in my position -- well, maybe hard to do w/o a penis -- I can be in ecstasy, eyes rolling back inside my head totally relaxed in mind and body except for one intense localized area of excitement and if I have to think about pulling out before climax it just ruins things.

.....and with risk of repeating myself we're all different types of girlfriends (in and outside of the hobby) and will agree or disagree on what qualifies as what.  You think CIM and/or swallowing was always PSE.....I'm just another person that doesn't think so.
Sorta side-note more than a few actual porn stars that also escort only do cbj or if they perform bbbj don't allow cim let alone swallowing.

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