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Providers are stealing pictures from other providers.  Notable providers are providing less than stellar performances.  Shills everywhere.  I personally think it is a sign that business is down, very down, still.  Almost makes you want to be a sugar daddy.  One girl to yourself, set amount of money, seems simple.

Business is decent for many of us but there are more women placing ads on the Internet.  (Note that sometimes these ads are being placed by Pimps who are abusing women and don't care what they do as long as they make quick money)

It's like watching the news.  You hear more about people who have committed crimes than good deeds.

Why has Identity Theft (the normal kind where your financial identity is stolen) picked up?  Why do we get emails from Mr. Longpenis Teabagger in Nigeria who just won the lottery and only needs the names and Social Security Numbers of our entire family so we can all share in his good fortune?

The economy is one factor (although from talking with business people it's rebounding) that brings out the thieves.  But the main reason is that the Internet provides a place for seedy people to take advantage of others.  

The women who steal photos and place ads hit and run.  They will move on and place another ad under a new name with the photos of another lady tomorrow, after they run their "special" and rip a few guys off tonight.

The Internet is a breeding ground for the worst types of people.  If these same people had to pay to post the same ad it would not happen. Backpage has been emailing me to place a free ad all week.  

As far as performance, maybe it's the guys who are treating the ladies like crap or even smell like crap and expect it all.

While I meet very few new guys, over the past year of the new ones I've met I would not see 1/3 of them again.  

I find, as do other ladies, that with this economy it is some of you guys that have become demanding.  Not only that, but with the 1/3 I refuse to see again most smelled like poo or pee and thought I wanted to be their BFF.  

Instead of blaming the ladies maybe you should put yourself in our place and think about the experience from the woman's side.  A nice guy usually gets it all, but a stinky entitled type with a bad attitude will get off and be led to the door.  Yes, you guys pay for a service, but we don't have to put up with disrespect or stinky butts and poor oral hygiene.

You have no idea how well or how down business is for any of us that have been around a while and have an established client base.  You are only referring to the "Here tonight, gone tomorrow" ladies who post on BP and CL.

Many of us would not accept Sugar Daddy payments of any amount from certain men.  We talk about turning down business all the time, because some business is business you don't want.  It's just like any other industry.  

Good luck finding perfection.  My first suggestion to men who complain is to start with looking in the mirror, then tune into TER reviews!  Also learn to treat your chosen lady like gold and you will be rewarded with toe curling pleasure and lots of good memories.

Have fun.

KJB

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I haven't posted in a while, but I wanted to applaud KJB. You seem to be all that is right in the hobby. You are intelligent, articulate, and you are not afraid to state an opinion. I have to admit I find some of the postings that the hobbyists post as degrading to women who moments before were being about as intimate and friendly as two people can get. Do those hobbyists hint at the review they will post? I doubt it. I am nost saying there are not bad providers but I am encouraged to see someone who is a real optimist on so many levels.
Okay, I know people are going to say I am just sucking up but once in a while someone says something that is really worth applauding.

I don't think things are bad at all. Seems to me there have been a lot of great new girls around lately. I just met a great one last night but I won't say who it was in case that would make me one of the shills you mention.

Unscrupulous types have been stealing pictures and posting fakes since the dawn of the internet.  This is nothing new.  Neither are shilling or bad reviews.  

Lol, NOTHING would make me want to be a sugar daddy.  I already spent half of my life being responsible for supporting a woman, it's called being married.  I got out and I'm never going back...

I don't see a ton of different lades but all of the ones I do see regularly are doing fine and are as busy as they want to be.

Sounds like business as usual to me.

I agree that there are more crazy's in this world than ever. I know that there are some bad apples on both sides and it pisses me off because it gives everyone a bad name. There are still plenty good in the world. I think that research on both sides is the only way to do business in this day and time. Gentlemen need to gentlemen and ladies need to be ladies.

I am just curious as to why a notable provider would provide less than par services if the business were down; wouldnt it be the opposite? Whether I have one appointment or seven; the performance is 100% if I can help it!

Maybe the lady you saw was not having a great day? If you could help me see the correlation between the two I'd apprieciate the clarity.

As far as pictures that has always happened either because girls are trying to maintain animinety or they look the opposite of what they are trying to hook you with.

The whole sugar daddy thing is great if it works; but most cases it doesn't at least for this side of the team nor do I think it is safe or healthy to be dependant on one person for the overall financial picture unless you are married. . Its not like you can have securtiy and sign a contract! lol.

I wish you the best although it is the perception of one that makes this business valuable or invaluable to you. If ever I am negative, I take a break or re-evaluate then at least if I am going to do something I am happy with my decision because this is a choice for all of us so why not be Happy! ! ! !

You just need an hour with  me Charlie and you will be aaaaallll set! Lol.

xoxoxo
Brooke

Two concepts followed by discussion.

The first is basic supply and demand. If supply is high relative to demand, the price drops. If demand is high relative to supply, the price rises.

The second is "elasticity of demand." That is, for some things demand doesn't change a lot despite changes in price. Home heating oil is a good example.

You can tell items with high elasticity of demand because their price doesn't decline much in response to a down economy; and their price can rise rapidly in response to an economic surge.

Providing is one such activity. What drives this is an interrelated complex of psychosocial phenomena I will barely touch upon. But the bottom line is that, in spite of a down economy, prices charged overall have remained about the same over that time; indicating there is high elasticity of demand.

One thing that effects this is the phenomenon of the regular client. To some degree, a regular client has an attachment to the provider. (It could simply be that he likes her as a person -- it doesn't have to be anything greater than that.)

The regular client will often have one session with his preferred provider in preference to two sessions with an unknown but less expensive provider. Looking at my own expenditures over the past 6 months; 50% of all hobby money has gone to one provider. Clearly, I like her, so if my budget were to drop by as much as half it is quite likely the funds I provide her would be unaffected. (Though it would affect other providers -- but they have their own regulars so it would even out.)

Either way, this creates the effect of high elasticity of demand for the services of providers by providing a reservoir of demand that would prevent a price drop.

Also, keep in mind that things that adversely affect carpenters might boost the income of lawyers; and that a large segment of the population directly or indirectly employed in industries that also have high elasticity of demand such as medicine and entertainment; or are nearly economically immune, such as government.

This also creates a reservoir of economically unaffected demand.

Meanwhile, even the harshest of economic climates doesn't impoverish those 35,000 men in the country with a net worth exceeding $20M. (I use $20M because that is what $1M in 1916 would be worth in today's money.) This, again, provides a reservoir of demand.

So regulars, people with stable employment, and highly wealthy individuals create a reservoir of demand that, in effect, makes the pricing or providers act as though demand is relatively inelastic. (But not ALL providers, as I describe below.)

Meanwhile, entry into the field is restricted; creating a supply that is not quickly flexible.

There are legal impediments that reserve the field to a relative handful of women who are willing to accomodate the risk.

There is massive social disapproval from both the left (those who think all providers are abuse victims of their clients) and the right (those who villify providers as the lowest of the low). Too many providers have to hide what they do from their families or suffer ostracism.

Because of the visual nature of men; there is also a minimum threshold of attractiveness.

Likewise, to be a successful provider, a woman has to be a lot smarter than the average bear. Among women that smart, there are very often other economically rewarding options that compete with providing as a career choice.

Finally, women aren't designed by nature to want to mate with men they find unattractive. (And I have heard a rumor that many clients aren't Brad Pitt.) Try putting yourself in the woman's shoes and imagine what it's like. It isn't as easy as they make it look, that's for sure.

So supply cannot simply increase easily to match demand. This means that as demand increases, rather than supply matching, price will rise.

Some other factors to consider.

While many women TRY to enter the market during bad economic times -- that is the worst time to try to enter because of factors mentioned above. Many women may post ads, but not very many are  successful at the level of a highly-rated escort on TER. If I have $X, I am more likely to spend it on someone who is well-established than a newbie with an ad on Backpage.

By definition, half of escorts are below-median in performance. Same thing with doctors, lawyers and Indian chiefs. And if you do an analysis of performance ratings in reviews; you will quickly find they follow a bell-shaped curve. It is a minority of listed providers who consistently have high performance ratings.

Just plain being damned good at what you do, no matter the profession, is a hedge against economic hardship. People who care about quality will choose to put their money where they know it is well-spent. It doesn't matter if we are talking about an electrician or a provider.

So this, again, creates a circumstance in which highly-rated providers are going to have a buffer against economic hardship.

You can verify all of the above just by looking at rates overall of providers with average performance scores in the 9-10 range. Have they dropped in the past two years? Nope. SOME have individually, and SOME have risen. But overall -- they have stayed the same.

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