Hello to all.
I would like to double check that we are all on the same page for everyone's safety. There are a lot of LE lurking especially with the CNBC specials etc. done on this business and the economy/towns trying to make up for lost funds....
With that in mind when posting (especially for the smaller areas outside of Boston) do you think it would be appropriate to post more generally than specific towns?
I know what I do to protect myself, but maybe others just don't know.... There are only so many places to go in MA so maybe we could work together to protect our towns/ladies and gents.

Nice comments please

Thanks!
Audrey

Wow, just checked out your site, you look unreal!

...oh and regarding your question, anything that protects all of us is a good thing.

That's sound advice.  No need to make LE's job any easier.  

Brains and looks, you've got it all Audrey!!

Better safe than sorry that's all I have to say.

Personally, more parking tickets would be a better way to raise funds for a budget. Sure, it's not fun to get one, but hey, it would keep hobbyists and providers alike happy.

You should be able to figure out whereabouts the woman is based on the location given within 10 miles.

For example, "South Shore" can be anywhere from Dedham to the coast down to Plymouth.   That is not helpful.   Likewise, saying you are on 95 is a stretch of road that is over 100 miles long.   My favorite ones that women say are 495 which again is a 100 mile stretch of road.

The best locations would be things like the following:

- 128 loop west of Boston
- Burlington/Woburn Area
- Dedham Area
- Quincy Area

Those descriptions have so many hotels in the area that it is impossible to determine where someone is located based on those locations.

Saying something like Needham though would be a bad idea since there really is only one hotel in Needham that would even be possible.

Look at the San Francisco board. There is a thread with someone asking for hotel suggestions. This should ALWAYS be done by backchannel, but there are several people giving out the actual names and locations of the hotels. YIKES!!!

Good points. I usually only set up meetings on weekdays close to work in the 'burbs so I always like to know the general area that the woman is based.  Usually only go about 10-15 minutes from that town since my coworkers might start to notice if I'm gone for a couple of hours for travel and the appointment.  Will think more about LE potentially reading these posts.

With that said I agree with BosTone30 that your pictures are smoking.  I would travel anywhere to see you.

...in an effort to rob us. A friend of mine was recently robbed by two guys one of whom was claiming to be with the U.S. government and one was claiming to be local law enforcement. They seized her laptop, they seized her phone, and they were asking where her money was. They never showed any i.d but they handcuffed her for like an hour and a half while they searched her room.
   They told her she could post a bond with them of $200.00 and then she could go to court on friday. I have never heard of anyone posting a bond directly with the law enforcement officers. Everytime she brought up things to them that they were saying about her that was not true, they would say to her, "do you want to go to jail"? She told them she did not have the $200.00 and they said they would have to send her to jail. Then they asked if she could post $40.00. She said a friend of hers could bring the $40.00 and when they found out they would have to wait ten minutes they said they did not want to wait. They told her then that they would release her and that she could show up for court the next day at ten am. The girl had a little bit of cocaine on her and they took that claiming that if she did not show up for court that the cocaine charge would be added to her charges if she did not show up. That was something that baffled her as well as myself when she told me.
    She had a feeling that they were not real law enforcement because they never showed a badge or any i.d. and they never read her miranda rights. The next day she decided to call to see if in fact she was being arraigned and sure enough she was not being arraigned the next day. In fact, the courthouse address that they gave her to go to was simply a courthouse on main st. However, there was not a courthouse on main st at all. The courthouse for that area was at a totally different address.
  So ladies, please be careful out there. I  know times are tough in this economy and a lot of clients are not willing to be screened but try not to take a lot of unneccessary risks. This friend of mine had to go out and buy a new phone losing all her important numbers as well as those she was not wanting to see again. She also had to spend 1200.00 on a new laptop.  If and when you are to see a client, try and hide your phone and computer somewhere in the hotel if you can. I think someone saw that 20/20 special with that guy who was robbing girls from cl and decided to do something similar to that.
    I can tell you that this guy who was posing as an officer with the u.s. government was a chubby caucasion man who was about 6 feet in a tan long coat with brown leather shoes and the other guy posing as local law enforcement was a hispanic man that was about 5 foot 10 or five foot 11. Be careful out there!

...in an effort to rob us. A friend of mine was recently robbed by two guys one of whom was claiming to be with the U.S. government and one was claiming to be local law enforcement. They seized her laptop, they seized her phone, and they were asking where her money was. They never showed any i.d but they handcuffed her for like an hour and a half while they searched her room.
   They told her she could post a bond with them of $200.00 and then she could go to court on friday. I have never heard of anyone posting a bond directly with the law enforcement officers. Everytime she brought up things to them that they were saying about her that was not true, they would say to her, "do you want to go to jail"? She told them she did not have the $200.00 and they said they would have to send her to jail. Then they asked if she could post $40.00. She said a friend of hers could bring the $40.00 and when they found out they would have to wait ten minutes they said they did not want to wait. They told her then that they would release her and that she could show up for court the next day at ten am. The girl had a little bit of cocaine on her and they took that claiming that if she did not show up for court that the cocaine charge would be added to her charges if she did not show up. That was something that baffled her as well as myself when she told me.
    She had a feeling that they were not real law enforcement because they never showed a badge or any i.d. and they never read her miranda rights. The next day she decided to call to see if in fact she was being arraigned and sure enough she was not being arraigned the next day. In fact, the courthouse address that they gave her to go to was simply a courthouse on main st. However, there was not a courthouse on main st at all. The courthouse for that area was at a totally different address.
  So ladies, please be careful out there. I  know times are tough in this economy and a lot of clients are not willing to be screened but try not to take a lot of unneccessary risks. This friend of mine had to go out and buy a new phone losing all her important numbers as well as those she was not wanting to see again. She also had to spend 1200.00 on a new laptop.  If and when you are to see a client, try and hide your phone and computer somewhere in the hotel if you can. I think someone saw that 20/20 special with that guy who was robbing girls from cl and decided to do something similar to that.
    I can tell you that this guy who was posing as an officer with the u.s. government was a chubby caucasion man who was about 6 feet in a tan long coat with brown leather shoes and the other guy posing as local law enforcement was a hispanic man that was about 5 foot 10 or five foot 11. Be careful out there!

There is a lot of this shadiness going on.
Guys know the economy sucks and that screening is lax and they're pulling all kinds of shit.

Fuck it, I will be dead as a doorknob rather than take unnecessary risks with new or unverifiable hobbyists.

I find your post somewhat strange.  

Why did she spend 1200 on a new laptop when she could get a very nice one for aorund 500 or less.

Or did she buy an apple.

Also, why did your friend who got in trouble not posting this? Why are you posting this.

Also, generally girls have a SOS text stored in their cell phones which goes to some tough bouncer guy who protects them. Why did she not SOS the text so she could get help.

If she can buy a laptop, then obviously she is internet literate.

Also, why demonize white caucasians and hispanics by identifying their race.

Something is not right here in your message.  I smell fear mongering.


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I am still on the fence with being specific. Maybe I am a bit paranoid although to make it easier for people to know where I am without having to call me, am I in turn throwing away discretion?
Maybe I will just list highways that surround the area and really make it confusing...Grab the maps fellas!

No, really suggestions are so welcomed right now. I remember a Braintree Bust a while back *CL* of course, and the police chief stated

We do not want this kind of activity in our town, anything that we see with our name we will go after. I have not been the same since reguarding that area! :0) See their effect!
Ok, done with my rant, thanks for the input!

Why does one buy a 70k car instead spending 20k. The answer because they can. I feel the person is trying to describe the people in this incident and their MO to warn others.

...furthermore the phone was a pre-paid phone she was using. I am not demonizing caucasion people or hispanics. This is something that happened to my friend the other night and her boyfriend was able to verify it as well when he saw her in the room crying her eyes out laptopless and phoneless.  These were two guys who came in her room. The first was a big guy who was at first appearing to be a client. Then there was a second knock on the door. She did  not want to answer the door because she did not know who it was. The big caucasion guy answered and it was a hispanic guy at the door. The both then pretended to be police. However, neither showed any id or a badge.  They handcuffed my friend and she did not know what to do. When you are in a situation like that maybe it is hard to think to ask for i.d. etc. Everytime she said something to them regarding something they were saying to her right then, they would ask her if she wanted to either get maced or if she wanted to go to jail right then.  As it was, they were searching  her room, telling her she was going to be locked up one minute and the next telling her she could be released.  She did not figure it out until after the guys left with her laptop and her phone when she started thinking about what just happened.  Why she spent 1200.00 dollars on a laptop because she spent about that same amount on her last one. I know it happened so lets just leave it at that. This could happen to anyone and I am sure it does happen. The guys were also acting like they were talking on walkie talkies and even acted like they were taking fake finger prints when she told them she did not have their i.d...as if they could do the fingerprint verification over the phone. Like I said, when she called the court the next day and she figured out that she did not have to go to court and that her name was not even down for arraignment, she then figured out that they were just guys posing as cops so that they could basically rob her. If the story does not ad up for you or does not do it for you, then I am sorry. It is not for entertainment purposes, it really did  happen.

I recently heard about the same thing in MetroWest..........This guy was working alone......a real creep.......

FB

an SOS text?
screen screen screen all your clients.
Most Indies are working alone, they typically screen well and there for aviod these issues.
Take a self defense course, and learn how to read people. If she had screened, this would most likely Not be an issue.
This can happen to just about anyone but its a whole lot less likely to happen to the Lady who screens her clients and who is NOT under the influence when she's working...
What they did was kidnapping which no matter what brought them there...still is against the law. Holding someone against their will is still illegal.
You need to know your rights and what is common practice and what is not with law enforcement.
Try staying clean and sobor when you are working, maybe it won't seem so believable to you if you were not high at the time, and freaked out by the whole situation.
Sounds harsh, maybe.  This is a business, it's inappropriate to go to work high, no matter what you do. Hey thats just my opinion....take it or leave it.

It's at the intersection of I-90, I-290 and I 190.

There are a lot of budget motels at that intersection and the Auburn police regularly ask the motel managers to report any suspicious activity to them, and they comply.

For example, the following works for me:

North of Boston
Northwest of Boston
West of Boston
Southwest of Boston
South Of Boston

And maybe preceeded with "Just" for very close to Boston, or perhaps a number of minutes that it would take to drive might be useful.   For example 30 minutes northwest of Boston would probably be Lowell or Tewksbury for example.

That way someone like me who is in a specific area would know that someone in one of the other areas would be much too far to commute to.  OTOH someone in my "sector" would be probably close to me.

As to Braintree, one could easily say Quincy for anywhere in that area, from Braintree to Milton.   Or you could say 20 minutes south of Boston and be correct.

There are ways around all of this.

...you may not think right either. So, my friend had to be high for that to happen to her? I cant believe you would even say that. What makes you think my friend was high...because she was scared. I know for a fact this girl does not get high ever. She does not even smoke pot and very rarely drinks. I cant believe you would even say that. I would like to see how you act under the same pressure. I am sure you would perform perfectly. Now, yes I do know that she does not screen and believe me I am constantly on her ass about screening. However, whether she screens or not does not give those guys the right to do what they did to her. Oh and stop referring to me as the one who needs to go to work sober.
This did not happen to me. I thought this would be a good board to relay this message but I guess I was wrong. I am starting to see why less and less providers are participating on this board. Just so you know, I have a job where I get drug screened regularly via hair follicle.

didn't you just get done saying she had some cocaine with her and they threatened drug charges if she didn't show up for court?  I believe you did. Now, I am definately not stupid and I guarantee if you were not a user...you wouldn't have the drugs with you in the first place .   She doesn't screen and no thats no excuse for their behavior. I never said in any way she deserved it. Its just definately NOT a proactive way to protect yourself.
I on the other hand do screen and do not use drugs.  Plus I am a black belt so most likely this would not happen to me...not without one hell of a fight first thats for sure.
Noone including myself feels these ladies who are taken advantage of deserve it...I do not believe I ever implied such either. If you want to pick a fight...find someone else to pick it with. I have no intentions of bickering with you over what you "think" you read.

By the way..noone who doesn't touch drugs as you say she is...just carries around some cocaine for the hell of it.  She is a user and that is a fact!  So hop on off your high horse hon.



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....and my room in our drawers or bathrooms which we would later find upon cleaning our rooms when getting ready to check out. I have cleaned my room before checking out and found half used bags of cocaine or occassional roaches of marijuana in the bathroom near the sink and sometimes in a drawer near the bed. It is hard to see sometimes what clients are doing in a 2 room suite when you or the client is in the bathroom. I usually do not find these things until the client is gone. You would be surprised how many of these clients looked. Many of these guys are the executive, corporate suit and tie type. Drug users are not all junkies  homeless people , or providers who do not screen despite what you think.
   What is with your attitude towards me. I came on here to warn  girls about something that I thought was serious. Why would I make up a story like this? Do you think that I am so bored that I have nothing better to do than make up a story about one guy posing as a federal officer and one posing as a local officer that told my friend they were not going to arrest her but that she had to go for an arraignment the next day. During the process, they confisgated her laptop and phone while keeping her handcuffed claiming they were looking to see if she had a fire-arm and money.  If noone believes me, then that is fine. Just wait til it happens to one of you.
    Do you know that something similar happened to a girl at a well known incall agency (that screens too which just goes to show it can happen to anyone) about 3-5  years ago in Boston.  I read about it on the TER Boston board. A guy came in and was acting like he was talking on a walkie talkie and he cuffed her to the bed while groping on her. When the appointment was over and she called the agency(I believe the agency described her as scared out of her mind)and they called the guy back, they asked him what happened. The guy told the phone person that if they bothered him again, he would call the police on the agency. I will not say the name of the agency out of respect but I am sure a lot of people will remember what I am talking about.
  I was not rude and hateful to you nor do I intend on being that way despite the way you are acting towards me and the assumptions you are making about my friend. You know I may not be a black belt in karate or whatever you claim to be and maybe my friend is not as perfect as you are about screening but at least I am not judgemental of people or how they live their lives.  
   You probably have never used drugs and do not even have any real idea how they affect your body but you are sitting here on your "I dont use drugs high horse"  saying that if she was not high on cocaine her judgement would not have been clouded. First of all, cocaine is a stimulant. As far as being high goes, a person who is on cocaine is usually as alert as someone who has drunk 4 cups of coffee. It is very unlikely that someone could not think if they are very alert.  You assumed because the cocaine was in the room that it was hers which it was not.  I am not judgemental of my clients or what they do to relax.  If they choose to partake in that sort of thing then that is their life. When they come to see me, I want them to relax. The last thing they want to hear is the lecture on, "just saying no".  
  As a matter of fact, most people do not get out of their mind high on cocaine.  People can act perfectly normal on cocaine. I have seen many guys at their hotel who seemed perfectly normal to me with the exception of mr. happy not working which is unhappy side effect of the drug.  Now, I have seen people on crack cocaine and they definitely do not act normal. In fact, they are downright scary. This sort of thing is something that someone can not do unnoticed and thank god, I have never found anything like that in my room (especially a crack pipe)
   Like I said, I have a job in which I do get drug tested with the hair follicle method and that job happens to be in the medical field and I see the affects of drugs all the time. I think that before you assume what people are like when they are high, maybe you should do a little research on drugs and how drugs affect people  so you can at least halfway look like you know what you are talking about.
  As far as screening goes, I do think screening is necessary but I do think that some girls take it to the extreme. I can understand why most of you guys out there do not want to be screened. I like to try and put myself in the position of the guys out there and many times I will try and work something out with them. I am a pretty good judge of character and have taken the proper precautions to make sure what happened to my friend does not happen to me.      
   However, hun keep in mind that a lot of providers are not as fortunate as you and I. Many girls out there do not have a regular client base like us and have no choice but to not screen because that is the only way they can get people to come and see them. My friend happens to be supporting a family of 10 in Russia. She has only been in the business for 1 year and in the past did not have a lot of luck being represented by agencies. A lot of seasoned hobbyiests are less likely to take a chance entrusting their personal information to a provider who is not that well known with not many reviews. With that being said, a lot of my clients ask me why I do not frequent the boards and this is one of the reasons why. I was not looking to pick a fight with you in any way and if I gave you that impression I am sorry. Arguments like these is why I do not bother frequenting the board that often.