We see this being advertised too much!

See this advertised by so many providers these days and its bad business. Its a simple post
on a simple subject. Too many providers these days are trying to advertise themselves as a
PSE provider and a GFE provider. This doesn't make any sense, that if you're not a porn star
you can't say you offer PSE because you don't. A client of ours asked why we don't have more girls in mass who offer PSE. PSE means Porn Star Experience, if you're not a Porn Star you don't provide PSE its that simple and doing a movie or 2 doesn't make you a porn star. So many of providers now say they offer PSE and we say learn your business before you advertise. If your a hobbiest that encounters a so called PSE provider ask her how many movies she has been in? Where can you find her movies?, etc..

Granted there also our many PSE legit providers available in the business, but there name
and bio alone show you a true PSE provider.

Hope this post could help!

Miami Secrets
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I don’t want to say any view is wrong, because PSE is used to imply different things to different people.  As you say, PSE does not have exact meaning.

I have paid an upcharge for PSE (vs. GFE) more than once.  For girls that offer both “levels” of service, PSE could imply greek.  To me, PSE means I don’t need to ask before I push the girl’s head…among a few other meanings under different circumstances.

Providers should learn their business before advertising?

Unestablished agencies shouldn't chastise independent providers (who are not regulated in any way in terms of advertisement) about acronyms in their advertisements.  Doing so is the equivalent of an independent provider telling YOU that you should consider upgrading your website and presentation before dishing out unsolicited advice.

PSE does stand for Porn Star Experience, and yes, previously it only applied to porn star escorts.

However, these days its a gentle way if differentiating between a Girlfriend Experience session which concentrates on providing a sensual, intimate encounter with emphasis on familiarity and lack of formality and a Porn Star Experience which concentrates on high energy, multiple positions, "taboo" acts such as facials, swallowing/showing off cum play, and anal.  It almost always signifies that anal in particular is available for an additional fee or a higher rate.

By your definition a hobbyist could assume that PSE with a Porn Star means he doesn't have to wear a condom (which may be accurate, but most porn actress escorts would say isn't at all accurate).

Trust me: girls who use the term know their business and how to reference their accommodations while publicly advertising.

When your client asks "why don't you have more PSE providers in Boston" tell him to call Body Miracle, an established agency, that runs porn star actresses through here all the time.

PSE refers to a level of service, not just the pedigree of the woman you are paying.  The definition may be open to interpretation but the intent is not.  It's an accepted term in the industry by everyone accept, it appears, a certain agency in Miami.

Exactly right.

We would have to disagree with the above replies.

1st of all We have been in business for nearly 20 years. We choose not to have a huge website because we already have a huge client base. If an independent or agency was just starting out then of course a good website would be a good suggestion.

Greek in considered a fetish not a PSE. Many PSE providers even with BM don't offer greek.

Each city seems to have its own meaning of GFE, but PSE is the same everywhere in both the US and Europe. Lets us give you an example.

PSE should be used only on the Porn Star Board and with providers who have worked in atleast 25 films or more.

We have a few girls who have emailed us thanking us for stating this subject and of course as we both know they are legit Porn Stars

Some will agree with our post and others will disagree. That is the overall reason of a message board, we discuss things.

Hope you all have some fun with this Post and Some will agree and some will disagree.

Miami Secrets
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A girlfriend experience does not mean they are their girlfriends.

A porn star experience does not mean they are porn stars.

This business is for entertainment; if that is the experience you seek, then certain providers will deliver.

I have never determined a PSE experience to be someone who only has participated in movies.

Maybe the new phrase should be experienced porn star for movie makers and the old phrase for women who provide all that hardcore action...

Thanks for the post

I have never had PSE but will offer my opinion.

To me, "PSE" implies that I -- how do I do underline boldface I? -- *I* will be made to feel like I am the porn star, experiencing what a male porn star gets to do with an active, capable (helpful) co-star. Maybe not everything (BB BJ only, not BB other orifices); a few reasonable restrictions that might be discussed in advance or during the meeting.

On the other hand, if it was "EPS" for "Experience the company of a real Porn Star" then I'd be expecting a real porn star with movies, guaranteed worn for 24 hours panties in a baggie (notarized certificate of authenticity $5 extra), and posters and glossies autographed by her assistant.

Can't we agree at least on what the terms do not mean?:

1) Someone who just happens to offer Greek is not necessarily PSE. Especially if she does so while wrinkling her nose as if she doing you a favor even while she's asking for an upsell for that favor? A pornstar with a cold-fish attitude is not the pornstar "experience," except to guys who watch porn to see indifferent gals not even bother to hide their yawning during the performance. A provider who says to a client, "I'm not good at faking sexy talk," is not a PSE even if her name is [fill in the blank of the latest greatest pornstar today].
2) Someone who believes of themselve that she gives an intimate experience isn't all that's needed for GFE, or else every provider will use that term and there's no objective basis to define it. Imagine the opposite conversation on the phone: "Hi, are you GFE?"  "No, I'm not, I'm actually more like ex-GFE."  Most guys consider GFE to mean oral without translation. If a guy calls a girl and asks her if she offers GFE, what he's asking, in code that the ladies surely know about, is, "Are you going to ask me to wear a condom during oral?"

I think if you look at it from the client's perspective, these are the only definitions that make sense, because otherwise they don't mean anything at all. . . .  My two cents.

You say:

"1st of all We have been in business for nearly 20 years. We choose not to have a huge website because we already have a huge client base. If an independent or agency was just starting out then of course a good website would be a good suggestion."

I did not see any links to reviews.  Perhaps if you provided links to your girl's reviews you could become better known around here.

If PSE can ONLY be provided by a real porn star, then GFE can ONLY be provided by my real girlfriend.

Sorry but I don't understand what you mean.

If I read your post correctly, you are saying that a new Indy or agency just starting out should spend the money to get a professional web site but once you are established for 20 years with a huge client base you can then change the professional web site to one of those cheap looking crappy free escort web sites?

Why is that? Your established clients are no longer important enough to view a nice web site?

Does that also mean that once you are established you no longer need reviews? Could that be the reason none your girls nor your established agency is reviewed?

The definition of GFE means girl friend experience, it does not mean the lady you are seeing is your actual girl friend. A PSE experience means Porn Star Experience, that also does not that mean the lady is an actual Porn Star. They key word here is EXPERIENCE. The lady either makes you feel like she is your girl friend or in the case of PSE makes you feel like you are with a porn star.

Posting on this board thatthe majority of everyone's thinking is wrong and they should listen to you and your way of thinking (because you are supposedly so well established even though you have no reviews) is a bad way to present yourself to the Boston market.

Just my .02

Well said! You don't have to be a porn star to give the experience of being with a porn star. Just as a lady doesn't have to be my girlfriend to give GFE!! It's really that simple.

Some things are debatable and some things are not. It is a fact in this business that what is refereed to as a PSE is an adjective used to describe the level of service, not the person providing it. Booking an appointment with a porn star is something completely different and anyone who sees PS's knows this.

I can't help thinking that this is a can of worms that you really never should have opened...which makes me wonder what you motive was for doing so.

I've never heard of you guys (and I work in South Florida two or three times a year) and I can't find reviews for anyone listed as working with your agency. This all seems like much ado about nothing.

This is a Great Question! Let us explain. When advertising a main factor for most businesses is drawing traffic to there website. Once a viewer cheacks out the website they then will choose if they want to use the business or pass on the business. We understand this 100%. We have girls who work well with us for the simple fact quality means more than quanity.

Example:

A new restaurant opens up on the same block as an already established restaurant. The new restaurant puts together a marketing campaign with a great website, flyers, etc...They draw in a huge crowd of clients. When the clients get there they realize on a scale of 1-5, 5 being great that the service isn't the best, maybe a 1 or 2 and they then decide not come back. The website is what drawed them in but the service is what left them confused and upset.

Then there is a restaurant already established with no website, limited marketing but what they have is a regular client base of clients who may try the new and fresh but end up always coming back do to the Quality of the service. When this restaurant displays a new item on its menu they already know its gonna be worth checking out.

With saying that yes we don't get the huge traffic of new clients and new clients are always welcome, But we also are a quality agency. We choose not to overload our girls and they like that. Many girls in the business these days want to book client after client, but our agency keeps is low volume with great clients!

Hope this could answer your question!

Miami Secrets

The term PSE is being thrown around like hotcakes. It has become a term that sophisticated hobbyists have learned to spurn. Take a visual journey through backpage, eros, cityvibe, craigslist. I can see where the poster from the Miami agency is coming from. I have not used the agency but checked out it's site. I find it interesting, in particular because of my preference for European born and raised women.

After doing a google search on the subject which we posted, its seems that our definition isn't 100% accurate. Looks like PSE has no true meaning and furthermore PSE can be offered by both a Porn Star and a non-Porn Star.

Miami Secrets

Yes, the term may cause nothing but confusion much of the time but that has nothing to do with the OP'S argument that it ONLY means a date with a porn star. Ambiguity is not the same thing a out-and-out ignorance.

I represent both porn stars and regular women.  I only say PSE when they offer greek services.  Some adult stars on the site say GFE because they don't offer Greek.  I don't consider bareback PSE though

Yeah when we advertise PSE we only do so for Adult film stars. With the rate increase for PSE most clients they we deal with prefer a true Porn Star rather than a regular girl acting like a Porn Star.