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LeChiffre 3 Reviews 37943 reads
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Hopefully, I'm not alone in this sentiment, but I've long felt that there needs to be some reform with regard to TER reviews when the provider is providing erotic massage or BDSM services -- the kinds of contexts in which penetrative sex might not be offered as part of the service, nor would the hobbyist expect it (in part, because these types of sessions are not nearly as expensive as hiring an escort, either).  

TER's review guidelines are as follows:

"For performance ratings, it is asked that you please save the 8, 9, and 10 ranks for situations where out of the ordinary services are provided (i.e. Blow Job - without condom, Kissing - with tongue, Anal - Yes, and Really Bi - Yes). Of course, the 10 rating should be reserved for an experience that is really worth a million!

An escort provider is only eligible to earn up to a 7, unless she is willing to perform one or some of the following during a session: Kisses With Tongue, Bare-Back Blow Job, Really Bi, and Anal Sex. For each of these services that are offered, her potential max score is raised by one point, with 10 as an absolute maximum."

I've always taken that to mean that only a provider who offers anal sex can get a "10".  I personally think that system in deeply flawed for BDSM and erotic massage services, where an outstanding provider might only be able to score a maximum performance rating of "6" or "7".  That doesn't seem right, and perhaps there's a way to create a sliding scale that acknowledges "out of the ordinary" service relative to what was expected.

And here's a tougher question -- should a Domme or submissive provider who offers sexual acts with her hobbyist clients be rated higher than a top-notch BDSM provider who gives that "one in a million" kink experience, but doesn't offer sex (which is the case with MOST, but not all, dominatrixes)?

What to think would be appropriate?  If we can figure out something that makes sense, maybe we could propose an alternative to TER.

There is always a system in place.  Not perfect nor does it cover every situation.  You can have a 10 experience without having sex but at the end of the day that is what this site is about.  The written review can be used to describe the total experience putting forth your amazement with the session and everyone will understand that it was a great time without a 10 rating.

Except . . .  If you write down a 10, it might appear as a 6 or 7 because someone at TER knocks it down, based on this criteria, before posting your review.

but the written review will get your point across.  Your 10 might be my 6 or the other way around.  I have read reviews that read 10 but where numerically lower and I have read reviews that where 6 or 7 but sounded like a 10 to me. That is why I do not get hung up on the numbers anymore.

nor are there that many people who actually use it for their scores.

I see 10s all the time for reviews that describe nothing more than some kissing, some oral and a finish in mish.  That's not a 10.

The problem is that the scoring system does not recognize what actually happened, or (more importantly IMHO) how well something is done, but whether she offers said service, whether the reviewer wanted it or not.

So, I would hold that each reviewer should be able to rate the provider as he sees fit, and hopefully will fully describe and give his reasons for same.  To that end, if a person is into BDSM stuff and his world is rocked by her, he can score that gal a 10, and describe why it is a 10 to him for the benefit of other potential clients.

Posted By: LeChiffre
Hopefully, I'm not alone in this sentiment, but I've long felt that there needs to be some reform with regard to TER reviews when the provider is providing erotic massage or BDSM services -- the kinds of contexts in which penetrative sex might not be offered as part of the service, nor would the hobbyist expect it (in part, because these types of sessions are not nearly as expensive as hiring an escort, either).  

TER's review guidelines are as follows:

"For performance ratings, it is asked that you please save the 8, 9, and 10 ranks for situations where out of the ordinary services are provided (i.e. Blow Job - without condom, Kissing - with tongue, Anal - Yes, and Really Bi - Yes). Of course, the 10 rating should be reserved for an experience that is really worth a million!

An escort provider is only eligible to earn up to a 7, unless she is willing to perform one or some of the following during a session: Kisses With Tongue, Bare-Back Blow Job, Really Bi, and Anal Sex. For each of these services that are offered, her potential max score is raised by one point, with 10 as an absolute maximum."

I've always taken that to mean that only a provider who offers anal sex can get a "10".  I personally think that system in deeply flawed for BDSM and erotic massage services, where an outstanding provider might only be able to score a maximum performance rating of "6" or "7".  That doesn't seem right, and perhaps there's a way to create a sliding scale that acknowledges "out of the ordinary" service relative to what was expected.

And here's a tougher question -- should a Domme or submissive provider who offers sexual acts with her hobbyist clients be rated higher than a top-notch BDSM provider who gives that "one in a million" kink experience, but doesn't offer sex (which is the case with MOST, but not all, dominatrixes)?

What to think would be appropriate?  If we can figure out something that makes sense, maybe we could propose an alternative to TER.
I really have had sessions with a limited menu that was better then most of the less limited menu sessions and did not review them because TER wouldn't accept the scores I would want to give them. So I chose not to review. Not all of us care if the lady does anal or not. I have posted on this many times in the GD bard.

"should a Domme or submissive provider who offers sexual acts with her hobbyist clients be rated higher than a top-notch BDSM provider who gives that "one in a million" kink experience, but doesn't offer sex (which is the case with MOST, but not all, dominatrixes)?"

This all depends on what the client wants in my opinion. If the client is really wanting sex with a BDSM touch then yes, but if the client is in it for the Kink experience then not only no but hell no.

I feel menu should have no baring on the performance scores instead it should be based solely on the experience of the client. If I as a client had a truly one in a million session I should be able to give out that ten no matter what the lady's menu was or what activities took place.

I doubt TER will change there rating system though, as for everyone that sees the flaws in the menu based scale there is just as many supporters of it.

The problem is that the overall community is not into BDSM. I will put keywords in the review stating the provider is submissive. That means she let me put her in restraints and let me have sex and/or pleasure with her with restraints on.

Of course that could have different levels.
Allowed restraints.
Allowed ballgag.
Allowed toys to be used.
Allowed spanking, hairpulling, breath play, etc.

NotApollo20393 reads

And I don't think they should be entitled to more then a 7 without sex. I have the same opinion with massage providers.

Not sure why I am pointless unless I take it in my ass because I am still preforming Greek just not on me!

LMFAO......

smswimfan19432 reads

First off, Ms. Patricia WOW you are fine.  Had to look at your picks, WOW.  To bad you are on the West Coast.

Next the rating system seems fine.  I have scene that they allow SM providers to be scored higher then 7.  I think the mods know that is a separate rating system from the normal, BBBJ 1 point, Rimming ! Point, Anal PT to go from 7 to 10.

GaGambler17601 reads

First, mods have nothing to do with the review process.

Secondly, anal, BBBJ etc do not automatically give the provider an extra point, it just allows them to be rated higher "IF" warranted. The rating still has to be earned, it's just that the ceiling is raised, A woman that provides anal, BBBJ, DFK, is really bi, and enjoys gangbangs does not automatically get a 10, it just allows the reviewer to rate her that high if he so choooses.

HalfHour22204 reads

But I think it should be easier to distinguish between thoe two types of sessions.

:)
HH

I guess I've sort of gotten used to it.  A 7 is a 10 for Dom performance.  I just mentally adjust that to an "A" in my head.

In regards to your other question, I think most Doms would want to guard that information very carefully.  Over the years I've known a few who've gotten turned on enough in a session that they wanted me to please them in some way or another.  To me, this simply adds to the experience. If it is elevated it is only because I truly felt honored to have the however brief encounter.  I've never written about any of these and I never would.  Mainly because in all of these cases I know that what happened was truly off the menu.  

I hear what you're saying.  But I think the reviews of Doms are few and far between enough (sadly) that it's pretty easy to read them in spite of the scoring system to get a sense of what the session was really like.  And you can always start your body copy with the phrase, "this is a TER 7, but a DOM 10!"

just my two cents.

..wood

The biggest problem is not weighting reviews.

Somebody with 5 reviews can be rated above somebody with 200 reviews when it's obvious that the provider with more reviews deserves to be higher.

It's a simple fix to use bayesian ratings.

Another easy fix would to subtract "1" from every appearance review. For some reason, there's grade inflation there. I think we all want to be nice so we would bump a 7 to an 8 if we like the girl.

smswimfan19418 reads

Maybe I am wrong, but I think most people look for BDSM provider a little differently.  I mean are the pics real is first question.  Then you really read the post to see what was provided and was it good.

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