Hello, I'm new to the Atlanta area and I would love to get to know you much better. I'm offering a $175 all inclusive special rate. I'm sure you will reward me by telling all of your friends about our EXPLOSIVE encounter! I provide a wonderful "GFE" that's sure to make your toes and everything else curl. I also provide a totally nude b2b rub. I'm available for two girl sessions with Miss Lundon Strapp!! My special will run for the rest of the week and weekend. I'm doing both in/outcall from 10AM until 10PM. My incall is located in the I-285 Chamblee Dunwoody area. I can be reached by email [email protected] or by phone. CUM ON OVER, Vanessa 678)612-8331

Who is going to be the brave one?????  Who will take the first dive??  Just asking.....  

Mj

Not sure if she was this one, but the review was very negative.  Seems like it was maybe 3-5 months ago.

Your pics look great.  However, there are a number of us skeptics who don't know you.  You state that you'll do sessions with Lundon.  Lundon is a well-known lady and posts here regularly.

Could Lundon give us guys a recommendation for you?  That might offer us some incentive to see you.  Also, where do you come from?  Are there reviews of you from other cities that we might take a look at?

If you are on the up-and-up, I apologize if I sound overly cautious.

Pilar, she also billed herself as the Spansish Fly.

I personally invited Vanessa to advertise on the boards. She is a great provider and looks even better in person. Her pictures are very recent (10 days old). She hasn't been in the business long and has only advertised in print. She currently free lances with referral agencies, however this is her attempt at becoming independent. If business is good she will continue to work as an independent. I know for a fact that she offers GFE,as well as massage and a host of other erotic services. I see her on a daily basis and can attest that she is who she says she is, and her only agenda is to get a piece of the big pie in Atlanta(LOL). The provider who received the negative review a few months ago was "Pilar" not "Wish" or "Vanessa". Be good to Vanessa guys, she will give you a great ride! "Lundon"

-- Modified on 11/12/2004 6:58:13 AM

you are correct.  Pilar did get an unfavorable review.

I don't think Vanessa is Pilar, though, if memory serves me correctly.

Lundonstrapp's web site seems to be down, by the way.

Still no response here from Vanessa.


-- Modified on 11/11/2004 8:16:42 PM

Well I'm feeling bold today so I'll take one for the team, cause even though I have never seen Lundon I'll take her word on this one, I'll make sure I post a review for you guys.

Lundon:

Thanks for the response.  The link you provided states that the direct link to Eros is no longer available.  Also your web site appears to no longer be active.  Could you explain please?

Also, some may cast a wary eye towards Vanessa given that Pilar, who received a very negative review, was associated with you in the past.  We all have to hope that Vanessa will not be a repeat performance of Pilar.

Thanks for any additional info you'd care to share on the Board.

luvman

First of all the Eros link is now correct in my initial post. I made a personal decision to have my site removed which I don't feel the need to explain that reason to you.

Secondly, Pilar's review is Pilar's review not mine. Pilar is a new and very inexperienced provider, I'm not, and my reviews will reflect that. You say that some are weary beacause Pilar was associated with me in the past? That to me indicates that you question my validity. I'm a highly rated very well known provider with nothing to prove to you or anyone else. I decided to post in hope that it would validate Vanessa, but I should have known that wouldn't be enough for you. Look, if you choose not to see Vanessa based on another providers review, I find that really strange but hey that's your decision. My purpose here in this thread is not to convince you to see Vanessa only to provide factual information about her character and services. The rest is up to you all. My regulars love her and so will anyone else who decides to spend time with her. "Lundon"

...you might wish to consider the circumstances involved and the bigger picture.

Regarding Vanessa, you stated in your posts above that:

"I personally invited Vanessa to advertise on the boards..."
"She is a great provider and looks even better in person..."
"She hasn't been in the business long..."
"I know for a fact that she offers GFE,as well as massage and a host of other erotic services...."
"My regulars love her and so will anyone else who decides to spend time with her..."

However, when posting about Pilar, you have stated:

"Pilar is a new and very inexperienced provider..."
"...some are weary beacause Pilar was associated with me..."
(I would argue that some may be 'leery' or 'wary', not 'weary', but that's just my interpretation of the English language)
"That to me indicates that you question my validity..."

Well, if you had given simiilar blessings to a provider who posted deceptive advertising and subsequently delivered substandard service, then I think perhaps questioning the validity of your opinion on such matters might very well be justified.

However, after reviewing all of your posts regarding Pilar and Wish, I'll agree that you never gave either of them the recommendation that you have given Vanessa (see above).

But in defense of the hobbyist's position, you indeed did 1) assist in their web site efforts, 2) encouraged them to advertise on TER, and 3) were available for doubles sessions with them.  That is being 'associated', and doesn't appear to the casual observer to be any different than what you are now doing with Vanessa -- hence the basis for justified skepticism in their minds.

It may be a bit unfair for the Atlanta hobbyists to group all three of them together as 'suspect' providers, based upon a less-than-favorable review of Pilar.  But for you to find yourself totally blameless in the situation borders on cluelessness of how this business really works.

My advice is to take it easy, don't alienate potential customers, and let the chips fall where they may.  If it works out that Vanessa is everything you say she is, great.  If it doesn't, be prepared for the 'validity' of your opinion regarding other providers to be heavily discounted in the future, and that it is a consequence of YOUR actions, not others.

But you gain nothing by making these types of attacking statements in response to people posting justified opinions and questions:

"I'm a highly rated very well known provider with nothing to prove to you or anyone else."
"...I should have known that wouldn't be enough for you."
"...I don't feel the need to explain that reason to you."

Remember, you can catch more flies with honey...

Best regards,
atl_mgr

If you want to have a session with Vanessa,fine, if not, that o.k. but just don't hate.  There will be reviews of Vanessa and we will see!!! She might offer a great explosive GFE session.
Pilar is Pilar and Vanessa is Vanessa!!! Lundon is first rate!!!

Thanks for the correct spelling of "wary", I'm sure you weren't sincere when you pointed it out. I don't want nor need any advice from you. I care not to entertain any of your babble.

I will post as I please. I'm not here to appease you or anyone else. I see things from one perspective and you view them from another. I stand firmly on everything stated in my posts. Oh this negative publicity has been GREAT for Vanessa's business by the way! At first I was upset by  you all posting this senseless garbage under her thread, but the calls and hobbyist are pouring in to see for themselves what Vanessa is really about. So we THANK YOU for the extra business... Lundon Strapp!

-- Modified on 11/13/2004 12:23:52 PM

either one or both of these ladies you would know. Both are or were delightful. I use that later tense of the verb because it seems Pilar has faded away. But a word of caution here fellows; you can’t trust reviews anyhow. Pilars (bad?) review was a hoax. That reviewer didn’t see Pilar, ‘cause his review had too many holes in it. 1. She didn’t see clients in an apartment, it was a well kept motel room.. 2. She didn’t do BJ’s period. Who can you trust??

I saw Vanessa earlier this week. The session was great. Whoa not many details here, huh. This one would be rejected, wouldn’t it. But alas, I don’t do reviews anyway.

I was going to post a long and detailed response to Lundon's post, but atl_mgr pretty much said it all.

The funny thing is that my questions regarding Vanessa were generated because I really liked her pictures and was considering seeing her and wanted to know more.  Are detailed questions regarding someone new justified?  Yes, considering all the rip-offs and bad experiences in this hobby.  I'll do all the investigation I need to do to make sure I spend my hard-earned $$$ wisely.

Despite Lundon's defensive response, I may see Vanessa anyway but the response was not helpful and provided no incentive for me to do so (quite the opposite in fact).

Also for the record, I backchanneled Vanessa two days ago asking for more info and never received a response.

-- Modified on 11/13/2004 7:22:42 AM

Lundon, I merely attempted to open your eyes to reality.

If you insist upon attacking me (and others) and posting blatant lies, so be it.  It only reflects upon your character and intellect, and will ultimately hurt your business.

Hope your treatment is going well - best of luck.

atl_mgr









-- Modified on 11/13/2004 10:22:35 AM

Reviews and denials from persons who use aliases are generally ignored as unreliable information sources.

I can admit when I'm wrong. The person who contacted me about the strap on session wasn't you, it was a hobbyist with a similar screen name handle as yours. Now that I review past emails from this person as well as a thread he posted here on TER concerning strap on sessions, I now realize that I made a mistake. I will edit my post above ASAP. "Lundon"

-- Modified on 11/13/2004 4:20:57 PM

Who's screening whom. Not going to post with my REAL handle. I have a life and don't have time to play with you DA's. Believe what you want!!!!