if you know what I mean

It depends, I have taken ladies out of town on pleasure trips, but it has been that they wanted to go anI paid for all expenses, flights , every thing, did things that she wanted to do so it was just that, 2 friends going on a trip together.  

But it is up to the lady and how well you know each other.  If totally business, then just make a reasonable offer or she needs to set the price.

Had some great trips and made some lasing friends.  JPW

and virtually everything in between.

I would advise getting it out in the open and coming up with a mutually acceptable arrangement prior to making plans. I would not advise going on a "whatever you think is fair" type basis with her, that's how misunderstandings start. lol

If she is truly embarrassed about quoting you a rate, maybe she enjoys your company as much as you hers? She could be thinking about going as your date, but it would be in both of your best interests to get it clear upfront.

Look at it this way, it's the best way to find out how much she likes you. If she quotes you her full daily rate, it's all about the money. If she discounts her rate significantly, it shows she might be into you. lol

Long story short, it's up to the lady in question. Just ask her again, and tell her you just want to be clear so there are no misunderstandings later.

One other thing to keep in mind. Even if she really likes you, she undoubtably has bills that are going to accrue whether or not she is on "vacation" with you. Telling her upfront that you understand that fact can keep the fantasy of a "real date" alive, while still allowing her to pay her bills. lol

Next time you will get my usual wise ass, insulting remarks. lol

Hey, I have a reputation to uphold. lmao

Seriously, I hope you two have a great time.

well mostly. lol

Ok I have a new friend who I am enjoying very much both sexually and personality. I would like to possibly take her with me on a cruise or maybe a couple of days in the mountains.

I was wondering if any gents have done this type of thing, I am sure you have, and if so what was the arrangement? Did the ladies take into considerations the expense you incurred for cruise, hotels, meals shopping etc or did they charge a normal daily rate?

Ladies, what do you think is appropriate? Now don't get me wrong I am asking because when I asked my friend she seemed embarrassed to have to quote a rate. I am just trying to figure out what the norm is as I have never done this before.

I appreciate your feedback whether it be in forum or by PM.

Thanks,

Willy

Those are both very helpful replies. I apreciate your openness.

Willy

Well expressed....  

Can we negotiate an annual rate?  

Now if you can get her to call me Monday to discuss it, lol.  She's got my number...

I had a new friend I really liked.  She told me she'd never been to the mountains but always wanted to go.  I wanted to take her to the mountains on a free weekend, but could never afford her overnight rate listed on her website.

So I made an offer.  We could either go on a day trip, with no charge and no sex, or we could spend the night but at a greatly discounted rate.  I said I understood completely if she couldn't do it, but I thought it would be fun for both of us and the sex wouldnt really be a key component on the trip because, after all, I could get that here.

She elected the overnight trip and said I could pay whatever I wanted because she thought it would be fun.  I made an offer that I hoped was fair to her but that I would feel comfortable paying.  Basically, I estimated the time we would actually spend having sex and offered her that amount.  She was fine with it and we had a really great time.  If she had said she couldn't do it for that price, I would have understood completely.

We're still friends.  I pay her standard rate when I see her, but I wouldnt trade that weekend for anything in the world.

One thing I would suggest:  if either of you snore, you should probably mention that upfront.  Lol. I snore,  but fortunately she is a heavy sleeper.

I saw the picture too, lol.

..anytime you spend days with a client, I hope the financial arrangement has been made upfront; and has never been an issue for me.  the issue is your expectation of the provider.  At night, I do sleep and need six hours.  it's a basic need that is necessary for my survival; and has never been an issue until you spend days with someone.  I oblidge(can't spell) but when can I say I'm tired without feeling guilty.  

this is an honest concern and if you can make your partner feel at ease....you are "The Man"

Again....just my $.02

I actually want to take her because I just really enjoy being around her. Plus at almost 60 any expectation that I could have sex more than twice a day would be a vivid hallucination. I haven't had one of those since '74!

Willy

I have flown providers in to meet me for long overnights.  All of them were providers that I had spent some time with (except one but, that is another story).  The offer I make is for me to provide the transportation, lodging, food, entertainment, and then to pay their "standard 8 hour/overnight rate".  They ususally have spent about 17-20 hours with me in ADDITION to their travel (packing, trip to airport, security, flight, etc) time.  Of course not all of that is BCD, there is dining, shopping, entertainment, exploration, etc.  Of note, I have not been able to pony up for the super high dollar provider type , but I have found thru the communication and planning stages of the trip that the excitment of getting off the plane knowing I am going to meet someone who has travelled to meet me at that airport and then enjoy exploring not only each other and the new destination we are meeting at is stimulating!!!