It seems that there is a slight trend toward having multiple providers operating out of one incall location. I, for one, am not comfortable with this setup for a variety of reasons, the main ones being privacy,discretion and security.
I don't want to go in somewhere and either before or after the session be led through an apartment of other ladies and introduced around. I am there for a 1 on 1 experience with a lady I have taken the time to resarch and have a fairly good idea of what to expect. Ok on some occasions 2 on 1! ![]()
Also at one of my last rendevous, while I was on the bed getting a little massage, a conversation was going on outside the door where I, and the lady I was with, could hear every detail, including names. The last thing I want is to run into another hobbiest in the hallway or living room.
Also these set-ups seem to be the natural setup for a b&s. We all know that when one of us gents shows up at the door, most of the time the larger of the 2 heads is long since disengaged. I love it when the door is opened, the lady I arranged to see meets me and the fun can begin in the living room and then go on from there instead of the "sit here, she'll be right in" routine.
Lastly, I find it hard to believe that when 4-5 providers are using the same location that eventually someone is not going to get curious. In the past this has lead to several groups of these ladies being busted by LE as well as the clients that happened to be there at that time.
Gents, what are you thoughts on this. Am I the only hobbiest that has this kind of reaction and concerns about this.
Ladies, please don't take this the wrong way. I have seen several providers over the years in these types of setups but I just prefer the intimacy of being the only ones in the room, apartment or house.
Good Hunting,
Pheonix
I have to agree with you.
I think it's great that providers can share an incall location, but I think it's important that clients have their discretion.
You came to see one Woman, not 5, Unless they all wanna jump in on ya. (wink)
I think it's important for the girl that you booked to be the one to open the door and greet you.
It can get uncomfortable knowing that so many people are in the same place that you are. After all you wanna relax and let go, it's hard to do that not knowing if someone is going to bust through the door or knowing that someone can hear the 2 of you. You want to know that your time is private.
Trust Me I understand.
Kisses,
Monica
I think you have to decide for yourself what you are comfortable with. Some of us like the brothel experience some want to feel they are the only guy the girls sees. Whether it invites the curiosity of LE will depend on the visibility of frequent male visitors by neighbors. The better the neighborhood the greater the risk. Probably less an issue if in a large appt complex.
I think it also helps to have multiple choices when photos aren't available ahead of time to know what you are getting. I personally get a rush from the brothel experience, having the opportunity to pick from a line-up.
in just such a setting. Sat in the "living room" for a while, had a drink, chatted with some of the ladies, etc. I ended up picking the lady who was not the youngest, or prettiest, of the ladies there, but was by far the more interesting person. Turned out that being "interesting" directly correlated with her sexual maturity and confidence, and her sensuality. I probably never would have had the chance to discover her if it wasn't for the "brothel experience".
Excellent observation Phoenix. I agree with you, I don't want to run into another client or provider either on the way in or on the way out. It's taking on the appearance of a flesh market. I think that's denigrating to both providers and their clients.
When multiple providers work out of a location, people going in and out will increase. If not what is the point?
Neighbors notice, they complain or call LE. Pretty standard set of events.
May be two sharing an apartment would be OK, more than that is troublesome (or may be inviting trouble).
If I want that kind of experience, I would go to a Massage Parlor and save$.
Right on Phoenix Rising.
Peace
to run into either other providers or other clients. The other providers DEFINITELY know what you're there for, and the other clients do, too. If I was ashamed of seeing a provider, and didn't want other clients to see me coming or going, I wouldn't go to socials or board meetings either.
What the difference between running into another client by chance on the way in or out of an incall location, and gathering with 10 or 20 of them on purpose in a public location at a publically announced gathering? ![]()
I'll just say that not every body is into the social and board meeting scene. Form many guys this hobby is a very discrete endevor for whatever reason. I am guessing that is more the norm than the exception. Sort of a new twist on the silent majority. LOL
My biggest adversion to the whole brotel thing is the lack of intimacy and personal contact. It would piss me off to get that knock on the door. That sort of kills the fantasy. Plus I went to a place like that before and was scared of the sheets to the point I left.
then why the board meetings if you guys have a problem running into each other.
i wouldn't see a problem just so long as there wasn't a line at the door,just my luck i would be at the very back.....lol.
we all know why we are here.
marcb
I was under the impression that the board meeting was in a public place where people going in and out is the norm
Board meeting is get together among friends, to my silly mind, it seems different than people going in and out of an apartment/home would be abnormal.
May be JimmyPW or those who attended the Board Meeting can provide more insight
The biggest risk to these set ups are that they do attract attention. The more upscale the apartment complex, the more chance that neighbors are noticing and will be willing to report the unusual amount of quick traffic in the area. A friend of mine was caught up in a very unpleasant situation where the police raided a house where multiple ladies were working and he was there. I think it is an unneccessary risk for both the lady and the client. The only benefit to the lady I see is if she is low on funds to either have a "work place" apt. or does not want to go through the hassle of setting up incall at an extended stay hotel. For the guys, most of these places are like factories and the main goal is to get hte guys in and out fairly quickly because of the limited number of rooms. I think you get more personalbe one on one experience outside of a brothel setting. The final thing that I think is VERY uncool about these places is that many may not be that clean, i.e. sheets, shower etc. just due to the traffic that may come through on a good day. Call me picky but that is a major plus for me.
marcb, the board meetings were in a lawful establishment, and to my knowledge there wasn't any he-ing and she-ing going on there, of course I wasn't watching Jimmy and woody all the time.
LOL you guys are funny !!
My take on this:
I have begun sharing an incall; of course, my gents come to see me, do not pass others on the way in or out, and there aren't ladies sitting around in the incall...
It is private enough where you cannot tell where anyone is going or coming from, since it is enclosed...
I also have a Buckhead incall that I use alone, but because it is so private and secure, I usu. meet gents, then drive in with them, so there is no hassle at the gate; many gents don't care for this, either...So which is it???
I don't see how gents can see the revolving door type agencies, as someone mentioned in a post above...This would seemingly leave no time for ladies to clean thoroughly, and clean the incall before the next gent arrives; which I am very, very phobic about....
This is why when using any location that is not my own, I use my own linens, towels, etc., etc., etcetera. I have gents who are specific about certain hygienic items, and I ensure those items are available to make them comfortable. There is a method to make sure a shared incall is well-maintained, secure, and private enough so as not to attract too much attention...
So; all in all; it depends on you gents as well...I get many calls asking to see me in the next 30 min. to 1 hour, and that doesn't even give me enough time to get myself ready, much less ensure my incall is clean and prepared...
But like I tell all my gentleman callers; all you have to do is ask...I will be more than happy to tell you my business practices...
Sofia
P.S. Oh, and if gents don't mind the meeting at a different location, and driving into my Buckhead incall; which is very secure, gated, and private, please let me know...it is always available...
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I'll bet I know exactly the who and where you are refering too. It took me by surprise as well. You have detailed exactly how I feel (and felt) about the situation. In an hours time I met (or saw) 6 providers other than my scheduled appointment. I felt uneasy at best.
PheonixRising,
Although I share your concerns regarding privacy, discretion, and security when visiting an incall location, I believe that a properly operated shared incall can adequately provide all three.
Just because an incall location is shared between multiple providers doesn't mean that more than one lady will be present at the same time - in fact, good scheduling prevents this from ever happening.
Your concerns seem more directed towards the high-traffic agency incalls, versus a incall location shared by a few independent ladies. Although I steer away from most agencies in general, I see no problem with the latter. I have visited with ladies at several shared incalls and experienced none of the problems you described.
atl_mgr
Agree with this. High traffic agency apartments are an invitation to trouble. However, when a couple of indies get a place together, it is often really nice, comfortable, discrete and private.
My feeling exactly Atl Mgr.
The "bored" meeting are very public in a public place with introductions to new friends. This is what it is, not just a preface to a prearranged session.
But you can meet new friends and if you clic, just like anywhere else, two people may want to spend more time together. But this is not what it is about.
It is a fun time and a chance for ladies and gents to do something together without the paid time senario.
Jimmy
ok here goes i hope i get this right.
upscale hotel,65% of the rooms that are occupied are by couples,married single doesn't matter,they are having sex at one point in the day,you may or may not know this to be true but the possibilty exists.
so whats the difference???????
marcb(not a porn star and never played one on tv)
Having been friendly with several folks who run(ran) agencies over the years, here are the two things that, IMHO, turn out to be the *real* risks of having multiple ladies share one incall:
1) the location becomes a "place of business", and gives LE the handy excuse of citing the business for "operating a business outside a commercial zoning district". In one case, the fines for this actually worked out to be *way* more expensive than what prostitution busts would have been. In the cases of this I'm aware of, there turned out to be no risk to the gentlemen present, other than a really good scare (I'm sure).
2) drugs. LE knows there's a good chance that if you have 4 or 5 providers gathered in one place, there's a good chance one of them will have drugs on her. Since drug busts are so much more serious than prostitution busts, this is something they love to do. So, the more "risky" of the these types of incall locations are the ones where the ladies hang out at the location while they are "on shift". The risk to the visiting gentleman is greater in this case, since it seems LE will collect everyone in the building if it's a drug bust.
Two of my all time favorite incall agencies were my favorites because they really knew how to run good locations. You never saw any of the other ladies (unless you specifically asked "Would it be OK if I met any other ladies that might be here now?"), never heard anyone else, the places were always spotless (I trusted their cleanliness way more than I trust the cleanliness of most hotels using near-slave-wage cleaning crews who are paid based on how fast they clean the rooms, not how well they clean them), and were way more "comfortable" than seeing someone in a hotel room.
This reality folks.
I don't have any issue with other providers in the location, but higher risk do exist with multiple providers in one locations, especially if it is in an upscale location.
People going in and out of a place between certain time makes everyone curious and suspicious. People talk word gets around and eventually LE gets involved.
One solution may be sign short term lease and move around every 3 to 6 months. May help, not sure.
Not that my $.02 count for much, but I do have to point out the good things about an agency.
1st - As "working women" we could all use the extra benefit of having a secondary person in our place. I am not at all assuming that I will get hurt or robbed or anything of the nature, but it is a safety issue for some of us. I would rather have someone else with me incase of a problem arising.
2nd - Doubles. Hey hey hey! I have an awesome double partner. Although we work for an agency, we only use each other for the double experience. By having her at the same place on certain days, it does make things easier.
3rd - When a hobbyist has an ATF, that is wonderful. Ususally an ATF is dependable in every way but what happens when that ATF is unavailable? I believe that by introducing my friends to my client, it will allow the client a bit more of variety if he so chooses.
4th - New clients. I love meeting new people and trying new things. Nothing can come close to that rush, but one thing I cannot handle is a phone that rings that cannot get answered. Clients want to talk to someone, if not then it discourages them from seeing a provider. Having someone to answer the phone (even if he chooses not to see her for whatever reason) takes a lot off of a provider.
I have to disagree with some of ya'll that the cleanliness and the comfort zone of a multiple user apartment is not good. I have no doubt that some hobbyist's do not like agency's, but to put us all in the same catagory is not fair.
I work for a wonderful agency. It is handled with tact, it is clean, and more important, we are a great group of woman who do not have the "cat-fight arena" going, we do not use drugs of any sort, we do not drink unless the client so chooses, and do not B&S or rip-off clientel.
If you as a hobbyist decide an agency experience is right for you, please do not hesitate, and give us a call. We'll show you that an agency experience offers little problems but a lot more variety.
Taylor
Taylor is absolutely correct, this is one agency with class. Taylor what can I say, one of the best and my ATF definitely.
Um got see Taylor when I get back in town!
Taylor You are Greaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
So show me, show me!
Well there are agencies and then there are Agencies. It all depends on who the "Mom" is. If you have a greedy Mom she overbooks and she is not present EVER. Probably doesnt answer her own phone either. Those types dont care about LE for you for the girls and not even for themselves. So they certainly dont care if you run into someone in the hall !
If a group of sophisticated and intelligent women decide to work together for their safety and for whom eachother brings to the UH............."feast" I can see no wrong in it.
If you look at ALL of our reviews almost all mention the cleanliness factor of our humble abode.
Scheduling wisely for enough time in between and location are of the utmost importance to us.
tyvm,P.T.
I have to say that I have not reviewed Taylor (I have only had one visit and more research is warranted) but I am ready to agree with your Post. The incall location wes among the best and Taylor is great. Big suprise right! I allways get a great rush when on the way out my date introduces me to her friends and tells them I'm a "great guy". I get a first hand viewing to see who I would like to see on another ocaision ( unless I'm feeling particularly Kinky )mabey together.When you meet them in person you get a chance to find what really attracts and connects you to a special provider. Thank You.
My only problem is that I love being with Taylor so much I have not tried any of the other girls. Blanca runs a first class agency and of course Taylor is the tops in my book.
I agree, Taylor is one of the finest ladies I have met, she is a real person and makes everyone feel that that they are the "ONE". I enjoyed that sensation. Hope to have it again. Jimmy
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