Start off as a agency girl. Charge $275-$300. One day go independent. Bump up your prices to $350-400+. Come back and trash the same type agency girls you once were, who may or may not be better looking as you, as low grade. Brilliant!
I was just wondering what others thoughts on this are. I have noticed that agencies and providers will charge one price for a hour. Then they will charge another price for a hour in a half. I find it strange that the cost for a hour and a half is more expensive by the minute then just an hour. I was trying to come up with a scenario where this made sense, but can't find one. Why would you be charged a higher dollar amount per minute to stay longer. It would seem providers would like you to stay longer as that is less work for more money. They don't have to screen anyone else so it makes sense to me. Also they would be seeing less clients which seems better. I have noticed some charge $275 for a hour, and charge $450 for a hour in a half. There is no 2 hour pricing. I personally like 2 hours so a agency or provider who charges more per minute the longer you stay is out of the question to me. I digress and was just wondering others thoughts on this. Thanks for all and any replies.
.....But f*cking is...can't have both, sorry.
Check with the boys over in Bama...they finally have up on the math thing after year of frustration....Jyst mention "Provider Math"....lol
LOL! I've quit even asking WHY?, because usually it is "Provider Math" - the pricing often has no grounding in common business sense. I once called a Provider that was offering a $250 hourly rate and $550 for two hours and told her I didn't want two hours, but was interested in two one hour sessions, back-to-back. I don't think she ever did get it.
The pricing for Doubles is another that usually is all over the board and is rarely grounded in any pricing rationale.
Funny, really....
Just performing a nerd check. Did anyone see "Provider Math" and think of it as a reference to "Bistro Math" from the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy?
"Provider Math" sounds like it would be equally as useful and definitely more fun to calculate.
If you have no idea what I'm referring to, just forget I asked . . . it shouldn't take you long.
...shorter dates?
I think they might have added their half hour rate to their hour rate to come up with the 90 minute rate? So, if you were going "by the minute" at the hourly rate, 90 minutes would be 412.50...so you are asking about a difference of 37.50? Maybe more condoms, lube and other things, like candles and wine are used/consumed?
I think that 300/hr and 450/90min is the average in Atlanta. Maybe they are actually giving a discount on the hour?
xoxo
Caylee
I have to say that these kinds of "nickel and dime providers to death" threads irk me.
Instead of trying to come on the board and get the "village" behind you to burn the "witch" why don't you just call the agency in question and ask for a 2 hour rate. If you don't like it don't book it. Free enterprise!! It's the American way.
The reality is at $275 for an hour you are paying $4.58 a minute. A table dance costs $10 and lasts an average of 3 1/2 minutes and if you’re lucky the girl might grind her butt into you. So for $6.03 more during that 3 1/2 minute song you could have been boinking some really hot woman, getting a bbbj or daty on a fantastically shaved kitty!! Come on!!
Willy
That is their way of paying us to leave!
I am sorry WillyJohnson I did not mean to get you all irked. I just thought I would try ask a question that was pertinent to my situation. You seem to be subjecting this conversation as you know what I presume. The subject in question is a provider and not a agency as you seem to infer. I just thought I would pose the question to both. Another thing that is the American way while your at it Free Speech. You are fine to come and criticize, but your post adds nothing of value. This was in no way a knock at any provider and was a simple question. I am unsure what is the relevance of your point about the strip club is as that is apples to oranges. I now remember why I stopped posting here.
Instead of trying to come on the board and get the "village" behind you to burn the "witch" why don't you just call the agency in question and ask for a 2 hour rate. If you don't like it don't book it. Free enterprise!! It's the American way.
The reality is at $275 for an hour you are paying $4.58 a minute. A table dance costs $10 and lasts an average of 3 1/2 minutes and if you’re lucky the girl might grind her butt into you. So for $6.03 more during that 3 1/2 minute song you could have been boinking some really hot woman, getting a bbbj or daty on a fantastically shaved kitty!! Come on!!
Willy
.....you haven't reviewed here either for 3 yrs....
why attack the OP like this??
Must say your answer is based on good logic...it makes cents
Enjoy the benifits.
Willy is irked! WTF, people can’t ask logical questions any longer?
Go and be irked or jerked all you want, it is legitimate question. What is wrong with this picture? Every turn every one shouts this is “business” and questions about pricing comes up then, it is not business any more, it is nickeling and diming!
The OP mentioned "per minute" pricing! Geez! Makes me think of the person that punches the time clock at exactly 9:00, THEN goes and makes his coffee, stops to chat with the receptionist..."works through lunch"...and from 3:30 til 4:45, he's on his personal email, Facebook, TER (lol)...and he's watching the clock for the last 15 minutes waiting to punch the clock at 5 on the dot. Clock-watching, milking the clock, nickel & diming...it is what it is.
xoxo
Caylee
Go and be irked or jerked all you want, it is legitimate question. What is wrong with this picture? Every turn every one shouts this is “business” and questions about pricing comes up then, it is not business any more, it is nickeling and diming!
I think I understand why you are Willy Johnson and not William Johnson.
for 90 minutes and $360 for 2 hours. That's $3, $2.77 and $3 per minute, respectively. I have another regular who charges $200 for an hour and $275 for 90 minutes. That $3.33 and $3.05, respectively. I'm getting a bargain, no matter which one I see and no matter how long I see her.
if we were consciously able to add like...example: over spending at the mall ALL the time!!
Wouldn't breaking down rates into minute increments result in "clock watching"?
A Provider that's resorted to the bare minimum that she can charge for a session would need to watch the clock so she can turn you out timely to meet another fella in order to have a profit significant enough to justify Whoring herself out (and make ends meet).
Non-rush sessions require more than the bare minimum from the clients end...no doing so doesn't seem considered/considerate.
Seriously, do you guys add like that..dayum
No. Actually, I'd never sat down and figured the cost-per-minute of seeing a provider before now. Guess I'm having a slow afternoon.
When did pricing analysis become synonymous with statistical analysis? That college missed both. Irrelevant to OP’s question.
"Degree in it" is even more irrelevant. What does it have to with the discussion?
I can't imagine why 275 for an hour but 450 for 90 minutes. Maybe they would rather do 2 hours instead of 90 minutes. What is there 2 hour rate. It may be to encourage 2 hour dates.
In my area most have a rate structure similar to the following:
275-300 hour, 375-400 90 minutes, 475-500 2 hours. That would be agency or provider. There are some variations of this but this is generally what you'll find.
who knows how they determine the rates.
For example, I recently saw one who listed 300/hr. 450/hr & half, 650/2 hrs. Sometimes they have different incall vs. outcall rates & get them mixed up in the ads. I'm not sure they're trying to shape behavior, I think it's more what Heather said above.
Lower grade eggs?
Snobbish aren’t we?
They seem to run in packs.
They hurt bad in more ways than one!
Start off as a agency girl. Charge $275-$300. One day go independent. Bump up your prices to $350-400+. Come back and trash the same type agency girls you once were, who may or may not be better looking as you, as low grade. Brilliant!
I don't understand what you find strange about providers/agencies setting their rates a certain way.
Pussy or anything else for sale will always be worth what someone is willing to pay for it. If a provider or agency can command $450 for an hour in a half then that's what they'll charge. I would suggest doing what i do set a price limit for yourself. I'm not going over $325 an HR and $400 for an HR and a half, on rare occasion i will but that's my limit. "Bitching about rates" won't do anything but make you look bad, its not like they're going to see this thread and change their rates.
My 3.25 cents set a price limit and don't break it come hell or high water
anyone is bitching. They are just asking a question which allows in forums that are meant for information exchange.
Agreed, I have range myself and won’t go over or below. One great thing about this great city of ours is that “one kind find some very tasty pussy within $250 to $300, every day of the week. Sure, OP knows this but had the guts to ask the question which some have always wanted to but were afraid to because Willy may get irked!
Rate is probably the most talked about topic ever to grace the board knowledge base of TER. Doesn't matter which board you frequent, you'll see it, over and over again with the same BS too. We'll see the the shills who will break ranks with their male counterparts to curry favors with the gals by defending the indefensible high rates with some sort of self contrived explanation for what has no "logical" explanation, except "because they can". And we'll see the familiar, "I've gotta buy soap" so that's why I "must" command hundreds of bucks above what the majority request. Or, we'll see the familiar inuendo about how "my stuff is so good" that I "deserve" ... blah blah blah.
The truth of the matter is that some guys have the money and some don't. Or, they can conceal the expenses in their business trips so no sweat off their wallet. Such is life. The other simple truth is that this is a hobby of greed, pure and simple. Gals are all gonna make the effort to get the maximum they can, and guys all want the biggest bang for the buck. It is what it is.
Where it gets distorted is when someone trys to apply any other logic than simple greed to the discussion. Try as you might, you will never "logically" defend it with any other explanation. And those who try, typically just make a fool of themselves. Things get compounded into yet more ignorance when the only real experience a guy has with this whole topic is by what he sees on TER. If this is the only information you have about pricing, you might be fooled into believing that what you see for rates is the "norm". O well.... but those who actually follow what we all claim to be the proper approach, that is, do your darn homework, will have a much more realistic outlook on the so-called "norm".
We'll see this topic again, I'm sure because like the hundreds of times before, try as many will, there will never be a satisfactory and logical explanation presented in a convincing way by those who ask for the high rates and those who don't mind paying it. For those who are not in this category, we'll just be the cheapos and life goes on... LMAO....
P4P is mostly a one way street that is Hobbyist ——> Provider. Greed is the absolute truth and setting the base rate and adding the same increments for 90 and 120 works only if the base price is correct. Then again, we live in math and science challenged education system!
I would argue, unless you works for a mom and shop operation, or loose small business where there aren’t financial controls, or politicians office or you are politician or lobbyist; the days hiding this or going to a strip bar in an expense report are over a long time ago. That is if you want to keep your job.
I travel a lot and have company credit card without any spending limit whatsoever and if I used it for the hobby, I am done and will be in jail probably.
Satisfactory and logical explanation is not going to happen when emotion and name calling is involved, would it?
This has been an interesting series of posts. From my perspective, I do not think the OP was bitching about rates, but about apparent inconsistensies in rates, not when applied to different providers who may have different opinions of self value, but when applied to the same provider's rates for different appointment lengths. If we try to look at this logically from a return on investment perspective we would need to consider the following:
1. the general standard block of time is 1 hour, therefore that would be the base rate for service(s) provided;
2. If a provider's day is calculated at lets say 4 appointments each at $300 with an hour an one half between appointments, then the time working is 8.5 hours (4 x1 hour appointments and 3 x 1.5 hour recess between appointments);
3. Assuming all daily time slots can be booked, then a 1.5 hour appointment would result either an extension of the work day or the inability to book the 4th appoitment. If the provider does not care to put in the extra 1/2 hour then that is her choice in pricing. If the provider loses one full hour appointment to take on a 1.5 hour appointment then she has lost $150 in potential revenue on that day.
4. If the provider is only booking 1 or 2 appointments a day, then she would benefit by pricing the 1.5 hour appointment and the 2 hour appointment at a rate somewhat lower than the compound rate based on the 1 hour appointment rate.
The pricing formula above is based on a revenue maximizing approach based on a limited time work day. The provider experience with the appointment times is alien to me, but I would imagine that with Viagra and an older clientele a provider would take a much longer pounding over 1.5 to 2 hours with one client that she would with two clients during two 1 hour appointments. The only logical way to price this scenario would be on a stroke/inch basis, but that gets into dynamics I an not qualified to address.
Said provider could be deliberately discouraging you from 90 min appointments; or perhaps does not like spending time with people that can do math and wants those people to leave on the hour; or she despises the mathematically challenged and wants to punish them.
Also possibly, the provider could be subtly mind fucking you, giving you conflicted feelings that would not otherwise be there had her pricing made logical sense . . . then again being a woman, logical sense may have absolutely nothing to do with it
Or she could be committing a nerd hate crime, by setting up the math to activate your OCD and send you into an endless loop searching for answers.
Just some other possibilities ![]()
There are people in places who consider what THEY want to attract when creating price guidelines. I suspect the agency you refer to is one that wants one hour appts as much as possible.
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