yo! alias ass, she posted her rates on the actual add after this thread started.
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=164420&boardID=18&page=1
Quit being a douchebag to the new lady. She's learning.
I REALLY don't want to start any drama. But I am interested in some objective feedback, Not posting this in her ad announcement post, since not fair to associate any new person with this topic. I only mention because the post below is a good example.
Scenario: New lady comes on and posts that she has no reviews, willing to offer discount for a review, ad lists no website and no mention of renumeration for her time, plus pretty sure she has out of state phone. I googled number and nothing. But if her pics are legit, she is quite attractive (IMHO) and seems earnest enough.
I find it interesting that hobbying newbies without refs have a similar delimma starting out. No refs and aside from leap of faith by sharing of personal info - most reputable ladies are not going to see.
No way not to bring up the recent bust in Gwinnett where LE set up incall sting to catch hobbyists. It happened. Given all this, how does a lady go about getting started where a hobbyist can feel safe about meeting her? Safety is a two way street. Aside from some adventurous hobbyist TOFTT I honestly don't know. Ideas?
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interview her over a cup of coffee or cocktail would be one way.
Ask her for a face pic and do outcall to a local hotel but use a 2 call system so LE has no advanced way of bugging room. Ask to see in her purse for camera. Explain why you are being so cautious and if she is legit, she souldn't mind a little assurance.
Her ad has bare breasts and most LE UC will not go bare breasted in ads.
Just my .02.
Good Hunting!
Pheonix
... agree to meet in public place like a sports bar. discretely, turn on ur recorder on ur cellphone and be sure to record ur voice and hers saying, "in no way am I paying for a sexual encounter. Do you agree with that?" Be sure to record her "yes" This is the only guarantee way to prevent you getting "accused" of "paying for prostitution" This will not guarantee you from being arrested although if she is L.E. she will probably excuse herself and leave. This happened to me years ago at my incall....and he left.
Hope this helps...
Hanna
I'll point out that providers are not supposed to offer a discount for a review. The most recent post that fits the scenario the op is discussing says she is offering discounts for TER members. That isn't the same thing.
Answering the posters question, the coffee meeting seems a good idea to me.
Had no idea by posting my dilema I would get so much feedback & learn so much!!
It's interesting being a new girl, I had never considered the concerns of the hobbyest. I see the other side in a new light.
I really like the suggestion to meet in a public place, as it makes for a relaxed situation for all.
I totally understand all the concerns that were mentioned, but my "real" career forces me to be as discreet as possible. I love my new "career" and look forward to making new friends.
Thanks, Chloe
xoxo
Yeah, but still no mention of what your rate might be. This would force your prospective client to have to ask. That creates another fine sheet of thin ice for us to walk out on. Just sayin'
yo! alias ass, she posted her rates on the actual add after this thread started.
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=164420&boardID=18&page=1
Quit being a douchebag to the new lady. She's learning.
Chloez1, I apologize to you. I did not notice that you had added your rate down there in your original post. Good luck to you in your endeavors.
Yes, your post did initiate my question. However, just to be perfectly clear - under NO circumstances am I making any innuendos or implying anything about you per se, just your particular situation of being new. We have never met, perhaps we can rectify that at some point. BTW - welcome. In the meantime, I do appreciate the input and welcome further ideas / suggestions.
I would love to meet you for coffee sometime - I am in the dilemma of no references and cannot TOFTT due to my job ... very bad things would happen and there would simply be no question for me ... That being said, I live in the old fourth ward and either need to meed during the weekend or in the evening during the week.
feel free to shoot me an email - funatlguy AT yahoo DOT com
Thanks! ![]()
Here's my two cents. I've stayed pretty much under the radar for close to ten years. I'm also in a position where very bad things would happen if anything ever got out. I generally stick to well reviewed providers, but recently have seen some relatively new ones that I did a little more due diligence on. So, here are a few ideas.
LE is basically lazy. From what I've gathered over the years their hot buttons are obvious brothels (Houston circa 2002/ 2003, can't remember exactly when) large agencies where they can get multiple busts and for things like racketeering and money laundering (Miami and Arizona come to mind), high profile operations with famous people involved (Atlanta a few years back) and human trafficking.
So going from the premise that LE is basically lazy other than the things I listed above here are some things you can easily do that they probably won't bother with.
Create a personal website. It doesn't have to be fancy, or even expensive, but the more effort you put into it, the less likely I'll think you are LE. They simply won't put in the time.
Do not advertise on Craigslist, Backpage or any of the other sites like these. I will not bother, even if you have reviews on TER and are a member of a screening service because it's distinctly possible that LE would simply use your pictures with a "new number" or "new e-mail" to pick off the unwary. The same goes to a lesser extent for escorts.com, cityvibe and eros. I don't think I would pick a provider off there unless they were very established.
Join a screening service like Preferred-411, Date-check etc...I'm a member of P411 and will pretty much only use that for scheduling and screening anymore. I can be reasonably assured that you are legit if you get verified through them that you are at least not LE...so far.
Join more than one board and post on it as well. Again, LE is lazy, unlikely they would go through the effort. They will take the path of least resistance to get their "numbers".
Find an established mentor who would be willing to take you on doubles, you could discount your rate (doubles get expensive) and hopefully get a few reviews. If the other provider doesn't advertise it, just word of mouth to her regulars and you don't try to poach her clients, he's happy that his ATF brought him a "gift", she's happy because he's happy and will keep seeing her and you're happy that you have a review.
Always take the good and the bad in reviews...don't come on the board "defending" yourself unless you have a truly screwed up situation and then I'd contact the mods first. I know of a very expensive, very hot provider that I wanted to see who completely turned me off because of the rants she would post if there was the slightest negativity in a review. Mostly just let it roll off, I mean who really cares. I won't downcheck a provider for a bad review, now a string of them and that's a different story, but I will write one off for crazy board behavior.
so, you take a calculated risk. Something like investing in a stock market. Sometimes it is your "guts" that tells you what, when and how.
Me thinks, we spend too much time analyzing and very little time enjoying life as it comes.
Mira is an amazing woman - had no reviews when I saw her
Mischa had no reviews/no website, just Eros ad
Fabiola . . . ohhhhhh, Fabiola - had no reviews (now has 2, both 10s')
It can happen, Bro, ya gotta be willing!