His raging Boner has to be tamed/corralled in some way by seeing someone else. I've been there done that even with my regular ATF.

when I found out that he doubled book both myself and the other provider would cancel. business isn't so plentiful any more but the cooperation and unity amongst providers in the past is definitely missed...

Why do some gents double book with ladies knowing you can only be at one place at one time? You have to cancel on one when that one lady could have booked something else. I want to hear from the guys why this happens.
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TL

Personally, I have never and would never do that.  But, putting on my guy hat for a moment leads me to think maybe it's because they are very concerned that one or the other will be a NCNS or otherwise just not honor the appointment and so he wants to hedge his bets.  Perhaps he only has a small window of opportunity to visit someone and wants to make sure that he doesn't miss out on the opportunity by booking two and then show up with the first one that actually gives him the directions, etc... then cancels the other.  Pretty lame I think, but it's just a guess on my part.

The most obvious reason that comes to mind is that some men believe that one of the 2 ladies will end up canceling the appointment at the last minute (or just NCNS without any notification). Another reason is that  some men simply forgot that they'd made a prior appointment, especially if they booked one of the girls far in advance.

Agree with pwilley's comments.  Since I have to drive 150 miles to ho bby in Atlanta, I always have a Plan B or Plan C in case my Plan A doesn't work out. Only had to do use Plan B once or twice. But in my humblest of opinions, double-booking actually shows lack of respect for both providers because the double-booker is saying that he doesn't really trust either to keep their commitment.

Not sure why this gent would do this because I have seen him several times and I have always kept my end of the deal. ALways had a great time. Not only was I booked but it was a double he booked just to cancel to see another lady. Definitely NOT the other ladies fault but very inconsiderate on his part.
Thanks guys for your input.
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TL

... Providers do the very same thing.  I thought this type of bad behavior was isolated to Providers, but I guess not.  Many ladies have relayed to me that a large percentage of Provider NCNSs are due to Providers double booking to ensure that a "slot" is filled.  These ladies confided that they personally knew of many ladies that did this on a regular basis.

The only reason I can think a guy may do this would be for the same reasons - they book the first (who may have a history of canceling, changing the appointment time, habitually late, etc) and book a second because their history with the first is spotty, at best.

I also wonder if you are talking about a hard, confirmed appointment or just one that is a request without a confirmation?  The reason I ask is because some Providers have a bad habit about not returning emails, PMs, or phone calls on a timely basis and the guy, after not hearing back from them for a period of time, will go ahead and make alternative plans.  I will tell you that if I contact a Provider and request a certain time or date, and they reply that "that shouldn't be a problem" but to call/email back to confirm, and when I do and they don't respond, reply or confirm within a few hours, I will move on and make other plans.

It was a confirmed appointment.  I presonally dont double book because I am low volume and no need for that. He and I have never had a problem with cancellations or NCNS before but he may very well be on my DNS list now because it not only booked me but my GF as well.  I can understand the different reasons why guys my do this but this is just not the case here.
Thanks JP
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TL

that it is ok to NCNS guys. It happened this week to someone I know with two different well reviewed ladies. One right up to the point of having him sit in the parking lot for an hour beyond his appointment time and thats after pushing him back on his original time to give her more time. I can tell you he was pissed and had wished he had a plan B.  It's more common that people think it is. It sucks but when you have blocked out the appointment time, the travel time to and from the appointment it kills a better part of your day.

The only valid reason for a NCNS is death or incapacitation.

Don't throw all of us indy's in the same bucket.  I have NEVER NCNS - EVER. If anything ever came up that I absolutely could not make a date the gent would get a call, text or email if it was at all feasible --and if he didn't it would be because it was impossible at the time.  

I also don't run late and neither do some other fine Indy's (or Agencies for that matter).  Do your homework.  =)

...said "I am undecided at the moment, but I wanted to know if you would be available?" and then have a deadline as to when he would make his decision. Sort of like saying, "Pencil me in"? Lol!

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Caylee

agree with the others that the guys that do it have done it to be sure they get to see somebody should a problem come up. There are jerks everywhere you go. They just don't have the respect for others that they should. I think it's wrong to do that. I never have and never will. Whether client or provider when someone does that kind of thing it's simply a matter of no respect for others. It happens everywhere.

I was wondering though how did you know the guy cancelled on you because of double booking? Did he tell you he had done that?

LOL no I was actually on the phone with the other lady and she asked me what he was like. We were already on the phone talking about other things.
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TL

Ladies Double Book as well. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

I  have on occassion called 2 or 3 different providers I was interested in seeing and saw whichever called me back first.

As Ginger and TL both know, planning ahead is  not a strong suit of mine. It's often at the last minute that I'm near Atlanta and see an opportunity to see someone. I kind of like the spontaneity of it. I can see where you ladies don't like that. But more often than not,  that's the way I operate. I'm sure most ladies prefer to plan ahead. Sometimes I'll contact a provider by email that I want to meet and see if they'll go ahead and screen me even if I don't have a definate date yet.
Which leads to another question, do most of you ladies feel comfortable with the TER white list ?
Even though I have several of those, there have been a couple  of ladies that still wanted ladies name's and contact information.

Sorry  that happened to you TL, that guy doesn't know what he missed .

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Most of the ladies I know dont either.
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TL

I wondered if it was something like that. I couldn't imagine him telling you that was what he had done. I'm just shaking my head. I find it ironic that he was "caught" that way.

If you cancel within 20 minutes of appointment is that not a No Show?   I agree a call and cancel is better than NSNC but both leave the other hanging without.  It sucks for the lady and gent both, no matter what and even if the other party understands

I hate when I am double booked or have no shows or no answer. Why would a hobbyist do that he will just put himself on the proovider black list and when he wants to see her later she will not take his call.
I know when I am left stranded with no answer no show stood up. I never call them again regardless of how special a person

They will over book guys expecting one to flake/ncns or just cancel at the last minute.   I have never had the ncns problem,  but have been strung along/cancelled on at the last minute.  Shit happens to us all but like you said Reece I have to wonder about some of the excuses.  That or some girls must go through a ridiculous amount of car accidents.

A no show  with call is okay and acceptable because the lady or man knows and can make other plans.  No one has any right to be miffed

A no show no call is disrespectful and the guy should be blacklisted and the provider wrung out to dry on the board.

But to TL point above, don't both events leave the ditched party hanging out empty handed and left in a bad spot with either lost revenue, lost time from lost encounter?  She was making point that late cancelations bother her.  Ginger and Reece made points that they always call if late or can't show.  But isn't this the same thing as a client canceling with a call.  Or is the peeve that the guy cancelled to hobby with someone see.  NSWC is only slightly better than nsnc, because more than likely you can't replace the lost opportunity?

TL has a right to be upset, but her client behavior is no different than when ginger and Reece indicated that they occasionally call and cancel for whatever reason.  If it is okay for them, it is okay for TL's client.  If he is bad and disrespectful to TL with this behavior then when ginger or Reece or any other lady on this thread cancel late then they should be dragged thru mud just like when CK or CC had their scheduling problems

just sayin

There are enough post on this thread and this board to show that providers do regularly nsnc.

I "picked" on you two because you were both honest enough to say you have cancellations and call people.  Your reasons for canceling may be fine, but TL client  may have valid reasons for a double book and he called her in advance.  Why are you not sticking up for him?  Could it be that TL is your friend and a provider, so in your opinion automatically right.

I agree late cancellations happen.  They happen for many reasons, but it doesn't matter what they are.  They leave people hanging.  They are equally bad if done by lady or man.   You two women had honesty to admit you have cancellation.  Please be equally honest and recognize this man may have had valid reasons to double schedule and cancel in advance.  You may not understand them any more than your clients understand when you cancel.

But if you ladies decide to do a hen circle about guys that cancel, then the men on this board need to treat every one of your late shows or cancellations just like what CC and CK went thru a while ago when they had scheduling problems.  Is that the standard of fairness you want?

I am not TL's client in this instant, but I like her a great deal.  I know and like both of you.  I hope you take a step back and consider that there may be another side.  Collectively do we want every transgression ran thru the mud this board can generate?

You define a double booking by default is intentionally setting up a cancellation and therefore bad

There are many ways a double booking can arise, especially given how slow communication can be sometimes, notices can cross in the mail so to speak.  Heck, haven't you at times penciled in a date only to find your assistant had a hard schedule with some one else and had to pick one to cancel?  Mistakes occur.  Best choice is you cancel the second call.  That's professional right?

 We do not know why he doubled, it may be rational, he may have had a prior commitment confirm and he missed the email.  So he had to pick the first one, even though he has good history with TL.  But this thread is hanging the guy, for something two leading providers on this board could have accidentally done.  I just want the guy to get same benefit of doubt you ladies expect.

Or am I still being unreasonable?  I am not sure collectively the group is understanding the standard they are creating.  Should every error or dispute be publicly trashed before the interested parties try to work it out?  I do not like that world.

Double bookings can happen accidentally, shit happens.

Double bookings can happen on purpose, asshoes happen.

But this is not the place to beat someone up unless you want all of your own activity treated same way.  

These two, admit to having late notice cancellations.  They can easily be because of a double booking caused by communication lag with assistants and direct contacts.  There may be personal events causing a cancellation.  The reason to client, who knows?  The benefit of doubt automatically is in their favor as opposed to a nameless client of TL that we don't even know if e was given a chance to make it up to her.  Does it make sense that a regular client would just go to asshole mode any more than it makes sense these two would intentional no show or late show a client?

But you have a nice summary.  It sucks for everyone when appointments no show or cancel the issue is degree of suckiness

You can't be in this hobby long without a cancellation on either party.  If you are a guy you will have nsnc

I just want equal treatment.  I am very tolerant, I expect same

You show them sexy how we do it!
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TL

lol Hey it didnt help the other lady is my best friend! Why is that ironic? Do REALLY know how many ladies I know LMAO! Please dont satrt shit where it need not be! Believe me the gentleman has already corrected this and he didnt find it ironic at all. I'm just shaking my head how this could be so ironic to you.
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TL

This was NOT a NCNS ANd it was a NCWC JUST TO SEE ANOTHER provider! When is that acceptable?
Great thing is. this gent HAS made it right and went ahead and payed for the appt anyway (even though he cancelled to see another lady) he was a gentleman enough to not only give a cancellation but the entire amount! Believe me when we see each other we will have amazing make up sex!! lol
A NCNS is definitely unacceptable but this was not the case. This was a case of double booking plain and simple. This was NOT a cancellation "for whatever reason" this was just the little head over reacting IMHO.
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'TL

-- Modified on 2/4/2012 10:26:23 AM

most of these posts, it seems to be another example of why use of an alias is something many of us don't like or understand. Especially when this is a subject that shouldn't have been difficult to comment on or required use of an alias to mask your personal opinions. TL asked about double-booking...so why the need to use an alias?

Back on subject....IMHO double-booking is wrong, and just not something I do. Research on TER, good communication, and respect on both sides have resulted in 1 NCNS by a lady with whom I had an appointment in my time in the hobby. As many have said, there are legit reasons for this, but in this case, without any followup on her part, I just made the decision to never seek out an appointment with her in the future. No drama, just done.

Terrilyn I meant no offense and I wasn't attempting to start anything.

Apologies, xyz23