Providers are leaving in droves. Hobbiest are  hibernating .
And I am what’s going on????

Hibernating.... but I know what you are talking about

Guys are canceling appointments. That is an abnormality. You can have four or 500 views on the ad but five calls during the week. I could see hobbyist twice a month!  I’m ready to quit!  
If time doesn’t change Atlanta is going to lose the really good girls. And gain a lot of problems by girls who are in an adequate, substandard, and do not give the quality of care that those of us that are around our prepare to gI’ve.
Maybe it’s the flu .., maybe it’s .., grrrt

Maybe guys are sticking with their tried and true regulars.....and are tired of jumping through hoops, 90 minute minimums, and requests for full name and/or upfront deposits.

I hope you don't leave

...do you mean by the "change? Who exactly is leaving and why? Sometimes a person's experience feels like it's going on everywhere but after some reflection they see it isn't as widespread as they thought. I'm not saying that is true regarding your post but I need more details to be sure I understand what you want to communicate. If possible please give specifics which will help us be sure we get your point/points. Your post sounds like the lead now give us the who, what, why, when, where.

I see new girl after new girl ads with 500 and above donations though
Which just seems weird

I have read through your post several times before replying  

justified fear, over what happened this time last year.  They are still gun shy.  They are slowly coming back out.  But they are scared.  One even told me that before meeting me that he feared someone had stole my identity.  I was glad to welcome him in the door with LDFK with a small hint smell of weed from another room  He knew without a doubt then I was there to meet him for fun!  

...so I can know if what I think she means is applicable. Is she saying business is so bad in Atl that providers are leaving in droves or what? How many providers exactly? As I said, her post is the lead now give us some details. What is the change she refers to?

I have no data to infer either way whether Charlie’s comment is just a general speculation or borne out of specific info.
I for one, did not read any patronizing tone in xyz23’s post. On the contrary, I found it to be a genuine follow up inquiry.

I, myself, am grateful for my regulars that are both local and not. I also travel when my day job isn’t keeping me busy.  

Well said Bucky.  To me there are several things going on.

In your very first paragraph your initial statement describes why she could be wrong, based on a flawed thought process that you state is common.

The office visits I have been hearing about are the scariest factor out there but I don’t see it mentioned here for a while.

I don’t know exactly what’s been going on, but it’s definitely slowed down. Every time I’d get a new review, I’d at least get 3 inquiries and 1 date. I went 8 days last month without an appt or even an inquiry. And, I’m the lowest I’ve ever been on the top 100 because of the new scoring benefiting me, so on paper I’m doing better. But, it’s not reflected in my traffic. I’m not requiring any additional screening than I was before the busts, except that I plan to decline outcalls to Dunwoody if I’m ever asked. I look exactly the same, apartment is still cute, I grandfather my clients, I still offer the same services. So, I’m not sure what’s up, but I definitely feel where you’re coming from. Maybe money is just tighter, spouses are more privy, and gents don’t want to see anyone new even if we are reviewed. Hope it picks up for you. February to May is usually really good to me, so I’m just going to try to not make any plans for the next few months.

...you've stated how it came across to you. If Charlie responds I'll have more to say otherwise I don't see any reason to continue. I don't think we'll get anywhere.

For me, it's purely financial. Work is slow right now and because of that, my extra funds are slow. I have not seen my atf in what seems like an eternity. I know that things will pick back up but holding on until then is tough.

Lol

I use to tour Atlanta from '07-12. I even lived there. I left the business for 3 years and was looking forward to making Atlanta one of my stopping grounds again.  

Not hibernating, just not playing in Atlanta. My experience over the last couple years has been that requests go unanswered, and appointments are too often last minute cancelled or NCNS. So other than a few regulars it's been other marketplaces for me. Good luck!

I'm in Tallahassee a few times a year.... I'll have to remember you.  Very hot

What places are you going?

is keeping the hobbyists away.  

Thanks dear! New pictures are coming out this spring. 🍻

I’ve been apprehensive after everything that has happened and am slowly coming back. No doubt I hat played a part in the decline but I also noticed rates have gone up across the board also in the past year. In the rule of supply and demand if what Charlie is saying is true, wouldn’t prices be coming down?

Something I've noticed from reading other boards is that there's currently a lot of interest in mining the non-pros over on one of the sugar baby sites. A lot of mongers are raving about paying low rates and getting multi-hour sessions. Quality seems to be hit and miss, though, and it requires a bit of time investment. Even so, I bet this influx of young ladies looking to make a quick buck has taken some business away from the professionals who frequent this board. There are clearly downsides and dangers in pursuing non-pros, but the reports I'm reading are mostly positive. Just a thought.

After some consideration and consulting with some whose opinion I value I want to apologize to Charlie. I meant no offense, no intention to patronize. I'm should have chosen my words better. Charlie please accept my apology.

Your right I have also seen a lot of interest, mainly because guys seem to want to believe it will be cheaper, and for some reason they have noooo problem disclosing their true identity lol

Yeah, as BJ and Anonymous mentioned, most everyone seems to have raised their rates this past year. It almost seems like there are more $500 girls than $300 girls now.

Back when $250 to $300 could get you a major hottie for an hour, I was active almost every week or every other week.  

I'm relatively new to the hobby but.... I've been able to find very hot women at reasonable rates.  If the rates are higher than I can afford maybe I won't go as much.

Hope you make it back to Atlanta. You're gorgeous...beautiful smile!!

Lol you spent $300k on one woman - what would be a “rate you can’t afford”???

Lol.... I do have a little more discretionary income now that I'm not dropping 3k a week on her.....

Last month a guy at the table next to me was getting a bbbj.... I'm too shy to do that on the floor in front of everyone but to each there own

No you are not alone! The rates have gone up for many ladies!
One example, in the middle of last year, I got my id etc checked with a lady and she was 400 and I think had hh rate! Any she canceled once. We couldn’t get our schedule together. After that I got busy with others. Earlier this month I thought of contacting her again for an appointment ... was surprised to see her rate has gone up to 500!

...for 150 to 250.

I did a quick search....

When I change rating to 8 an up I get 4 pages of providers that have reviews in the last 3 months

Making this posting. I post to get people into active on the board and to get the opinions of people. I didn’t post to be ridiculed, antagonize, or just plainly bombarded with bullshit.
 Some say I need to update my website and my photos my new site and photos will be live this week.  
Honestly I really don’t think that matters but we’ll see how this new website drive traffic. Either way I plan to do more Touting and traveling versus being available in Atlanta.

In how things have been in Atlanta and I am considering leaving as I've even noticed women aren't touring here anymore. Apparently Atlanta is dead, partially due to everyone still laying low after all the busts last year.  

Sorry I use talk to text

to cook that goose.  Stew, fricassee, stuff and roast.
The hobby isn't dead its just evolving.  Guys had enough sloppiness I think.
Used to be a gal wanted to be accessible to her select clients.  I think respect
is just not there.

You have no need to regret your post and anybody who ridiculed you in any way is an absolute and total douchebag.

Whelchel play devils Avichi it I would say that guys need to read reviews check out a girls Internet presence and select from there. I have never had a bad situation. I treat everybody like it’s somebody I want to see you again. I guess it sucks to be me because I care too much but then again I don’t care Enough to keep dealing with bs

You are considering migrating to NY and those girls (600-1000/hr) are touring here...Might want to rethink that idea, cost of touring to NYC (for instance) will be twice as much as say...Nashville....

I'm with you!!!!!

I don’t think anyone ridiculed you or I hope you don’t think I was ridiculing anyone. Another trend I have noticed is the number of backpage or similar girls being reviewed lately.

I don't see ANYTHING in his post that warrants YOU attacking xyz. Infact,  xyz has always been super helpful, honest and kind! It's no wonder so many people(especially ladies) avoid Atlanta nowdays.....  let's see just how many post you can nit pick and analyze.  Lol  
Why don't you enlighten us and tell us EXACTLY how he was being ugly to the OP??

Exactly....... the only thing I see is an alias starting trouble AGAIN over someone trying to be helpful. No wonder people stopped posting in Atlanta.  I'm an Atlanta native but this board will run off the best ladies and gentlemen in town.  Shit just like this made me completely relocate. There is a huge difference in speaking ones mind, being helpful or just starting shit.  
Instigators just suck really...

only advantage is I'm from NY originally and have a lot of resources for places to stay :]

Very well put!

600hr is my Max in NY out of principal. I'm sure you can get the same girl in Atlanta for 400hr or even three.

say or insinuate anything of the sort you attacked him for.

Isn't it obvious? People aren't stupid. No one wants to run the risk of getting pinched by Uncle LEO. Well, maybe except for Khori lol.

Well first of all this comment was very condescending and insulting. Because I’m not a Backpage  girl nor am I similar.

I apologize for the misunderstanding, I was not referencing you in any of my responses, other than stating that I tried to reach out to you recently. I was solely commenting on the changes to the community in general. Again I apologize if by any way anyone thought I was insinuating you directly

What's interesting is what one person sees as an 8 or so... may be more like a 5 in IMHO. I've seen women rated 8 or 9 in looks that just aren't my type at all. And I'm good with that; I'm not the final judge of what's attractive by any stretch, but I'm not into lots of tattoos, BBW, goth looks, or street walker types. I'm more of a sexy girl next door type and lately, that type is out of my $$$ range. But it's all relative, right?  

I agree on the reviews.... hard to tell based on the guys experience.   I saw one guy with 6 reviews,  5 of them were once in a lifetime events lol.

Good point, kid

Agreed!

I hope you don't leave either

Why take a potshot at khori???

GT, that’s really good advice you’ve shared with Charlie! I know she’ll much appreciate it. I’ll add that you taking time to put those comments together speaks very highly of you.

I respect that about both you and Charlie.

I didn’t take a shot at anyone. I don’t even know who that is.

My post was to ncreaver's post in which he took a potshot at khori for some unknown reason

I don't think it was a potshot.

You are awesome and make this all worthwhile! Excited to see you again, Lover!😍

Brave, famous, last words until you get pinched by Uncle LEO. But maybe you've got nothing to lose.

Wow harsh

I think that I am in love!❤❤❤ Sorry, I didn't mean to use the "L" word. Lol!

I know both. And my financial livelihood doesn't depend on turning tricks.

No one is bullying you. Just pointing out your bias. Plus, it's easy for you to encourage the citizens of Atlanta to throw caution to the wind when you're operating safely in the confines of Las Vegas.

You haven't posted in a long time and suddenly you lash out at this woman?

It sounds like "somebody" has "something" he is just dying to say.

Thou does protest mucheth. I agree with Arden. You don’t have to be brave to live but you do need to be smart about it.

There is still so many nice ladies in Atlanta.  I had a thought....I know it hurt a little.  I have been trolling BP lately and there are so many nice girls on there recently.  Maybe it is up to us as gentleman hobbyists to Do more of TOFT so Rhea ladies are treated right and don’t feel that men are all scum bags.  I understand the LE risk too!!!

What is a “Rhea lady”?

You are 100% correct. I have left the hobby scene and have been seeing sugar babies. Have two I have been seeing for over a year and if you find the right one it is a bliss.  

and it is cheaper, if you find the right one and make the right arrangement. As I posted earlier, I have two sugar babies I can see as many times I want but I can't because lack of time.

How does a relationship continue when she doesn’t live here?

I think you're an underage minor participating on an adult-themed forum. You're asking too many questions that adults already know the answer to.

Every post you make is a negative attack

Exactly!! I have a regular who takes great care of me. Plus when I post honest requests to meet young ladies with amazing armpits there are no responses or crazy verification. Why would I send identification ever but especially these days. Are the ladies providing driver's licenses?  

I live in Atlanta and, before last year, would hobby here as well.  Now, I hobby in other cities where it is safer, easier, and, ultimately, cheaper (e.g. DC and Dallas).  Also, I quit posting TER reviews of my activities long ago, and recent and not so recent events have proved that to be a wise move.  If I have an urgent need, like others have mentioned, I go to Follies.  

I wasn't involved in that particular thread, but they have said the same thing in virtually every city that has gone through something like Atlanta went through and yes "this too will pass" whether it passes quickly or slowly I don't have a clue, but I guaranfuckingtee you it WILL pass, things like this always do.

Just did a check of rates between these cities--and it seems we've caught up to them for the most part.  

Any ladies interested in a M&G to help with business??   I tried two but you ladies failed to reply or come.  I screen carefully.   Guys, are you ready to come again?  Will it help to get the "community" back together again.    

One that maybe would be held at lunchtime or early afternoon. I am not able to make an evening engagement. I was never able to attend any of the M&G’s that were sponsored by Jimmy or the former agencies.

@JimmyPW-- I agree with the other poster; late nights are just not an option for anyone but single people. I'm not married, but I'm with a long-term GF who has sexual issues and has granted me the opportunity to fulfill my needs in other ways as long as she doesn't know about it. And asking to leave for a late evening without having a good reason probably doesn't qualify as being low-key; otherwise, I'm on board.

It ebs and flows, over supply at the moment, probably pricing and timing issues. Time to get creative, specials, duos, bundle price packages etc.

I'm curious about what you mean. Clearly last year was scary here and Seattle had it's situation but what happened in Atlanta whereby posted reviews was a risk? Was TER hit with subpoenas?

Lets just say that this hobby is not one for everyone.  There are time constraints, financial constraints, professional constraints, etc.  I can't speak for everyone, but personally I have one provider I frequent and occasionally I branch out to "test the waters".  I'd love to have a few "go-to" favorites, but my time constraints and professional life make that difficult.  Typically I don't plan a rendezvous days in advance; rather, it's more like an itch that I want to scratch when it comes up.  Sure, I understand not every lady is going to sit around waiting for my beckoning call and I don't expect that either.