If an independent is paying someone to book for them, manage their email correspondence, book their out of town touring etc what is the difference if GC or any other agency manages those same aspects for another lady. If she worked for the agency and wanted to go indie but still pay the agency to help manage their business, what does it matter to anyone. Many independents worked for agencies and then went indy and hired an "assistant". I am not sure I understand what all the fuss is about. If someone pays attention to the board they are going to know that a lady was once an agency lady and is now an indie.
The rub that I see is in the service to the client. I recently saw one of the ladies who has been accused of not being an independent. The session was wonderful. My problem was the same I have had for years with agencies and some indies. Too many ladies in the same location. I am a one on one kind of guy or at least no more than 2 ladies in an incall. The chances of running into some other guy in the living room or even on the way to the head makes me feel uncomfortable.
I was told there were like 5 ladies all sharing the same incall. Way too dangerous for me, imho.
But, I know of at least 3 other agencies that run incalls like that. One I have been to a while back actually had other guys hanging out with the owner when clients were coming and going...not comfortable for me.
But in the end there are probably as many business models as there are creative business owners. So for me, I pay attention. I stay away from those indy or agency who don't provide good service or who thrive on drama and troublemaking.
If you read the boards and pay attention you can most of the time avoid the bs. Other than that I stay out of the business end. As long as it doesn't affect my experience, I don't need to get involved. It's like any other business, if the competition is getting a leg up, you need to adapt.
Willy
Am I the only one who sees this or am I the only one bold enough to say this? I have been a lurker on TER for last few years. Never felt compelled to write on the boards and join in discussions. Hell I don’t even like to write reviews, if anything I use the reviews as reference to confirm if that the provider that in the pictures if it one I really want to see. If it is I go for it, because I know my experience with the provider won’t be the same as any other guy. But back to the subject of discussion, I want to know why the agency known as Gold Club has been marketing a certain group of girls as “independent”. As far I see that false advertising to the max. If you’re wondering what girls I am referring to, check out theme posting for Thursday. Check out, the 1st five postings. With the exception of the ATF’s posting, those are all GC girls. Obviously the 1st one is marketed as an agency girl, but the other three girls are supposed to be indy, but they’re not, they belong to gold club. So what up with the BS, I know few months ago someone tried to call you guys, but didn’t mention your name at all, if anything the whole thread cause a rift between the indy trying to sort out the real from the fake independents. Around that time I guess it was hard to tell, especially when you guys had nearly a dozen girls marketed as independent. As time passed I seen they either left the scene or became an actual independent providers. So there no need for me to mention their names. So there no need for speculation, the providers I'm talking about are: Bridgette, Miyani,Fallon, Petra and Sianna. They are not real indys, they work for Gold Club. Now that the spotlight has shine on your agency, please tell the community your “justified reasoning” for this type of phony marketing.
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After all if you are looking for full disclosure or absolute truth in advertising
it sure as shit is not going to be found in the hobby...even by indys.
lol
Ya get to put out ads for all of them because theyre "Indys".
tyvm,P.T.
...but I know in the past there have been independent providers that paid a set fee to an agency for scheduling and screening services the same as they would an assistant. They are independent with their own location and overhead. This could be what is happening here. I don't know.
I agree that if this is not the case then it is deceptive. I don't know what the up side would be unless it is to attract guys that wouldn't normally use an agency because of their dislike for agencies having their info and their desire to stay away from what they consider the higher volume of agency providers.
To enjoy the hobby I find both are important. I love the relationship I have with my Indy friend, but there is nothing as frustrating as having a small window of time, put a call in to a provider and not hear from them right away. I don't want to be rude and make another appointment.. It's not their fault but i don't have a date for my free time (I don't do short notice calls that often). When I call an agency they know if my provider of choice is availible or not and if not they will go through the roster until I have a date. But I also hate not being able to talk to or email my favourite agency girls directly. It's like my doctors. I need both. By the way it's cute how this site uses British spellings in spell check
Yours may be false accusation of GC.
...how the OP knows these ladies are actually working for GC.
If you came to the M&G's its a known fact.. That hes not trying to hide.... Why should he? Theres a large market that will Only see Indi's... Hes just coverin his bases and maximizing his potential. By offering to each their preference...Psuedo or not.... Why should you care how the money is split... Thats really none of any of our buisness......AND the only real difference.
tyvm,P.T.
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-- Modified on 8/24/2012 8:38:58 PM
...I wasn't trying to stir anything. I just wondered how the OP knew this was the case. It is the second time the question has come up, as he stated.
I don't attend the M&G's.
I appreciate your response.
...needed to add I don't have an issue how the money is divided. I didn't bring that up in either of my posts.
Thanks
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-- Modified on 8/24/2012 9:19:26 PM
I really love meeting the ladies and meeting who I might like to see. There is just nothing that replaces a face to face to tell the personality and "Fun Factor" of a potential "date"
You were writing 
Very Soon!
tyvm,P.T.
And I didn't mention any of those girls that went Indy or retired. I only mention those currently working for the agency.
As a former TER moderator there was a policy against double dipping as we called it. There was a post on every ad board disallowing. This is just a creative way for Gold Club to have their ads then advertise for the " independent ladies" separately. They are smart by either spoofing their ip address or logging in under different user names or both to post ads. Gold Club indirectly still manages, screens and books the calls. They just have more board exposure plus the rates for the new indys has increased from 300 to 350.00. Just different bows and ribbons but same goods for more money. If you think for a minute that it's the individual ladies posing in all the theme threads the you are incredibly STUPID.
Moderators who knew the individual communities could help control this type of abuse in the past but it appears the new TER could care less.
Whose policy? Why do you care?
Are you a policy cop of some kind?
When I'm spending time with a hot woman - who cares? Agency or Indy?
Believe me that's nots what's on my mind - its the beautiful provider I'm with....
I'm just sayin.....
If an independent is paying someone to book for them, manage their email correspondence, book their out of town touring etc what is the difference if GC or any other agency manages those same aspects for another lady. If she worked for the agency and wanted to go indie but still pay the agency to help manage their business, what does it matter to anyone. Many independents worked for agencies and then went indy and hired an "assistant". I am not sure I understand what all the fuss is about. If someone pays attention to the board they are going to know that a lady was once an agency lady and is now an indie.
The rub that I see is in the service to the client. I recently saw one of the ladies who has been accused of not being an independent. The session was wonderful. My problem was the same I have had for years with agencies and some indies. Too many ladies in the same location. I am a one on one kind of guy or at least no more than 2 ladies in an incall. The chances of running into some other guy in the living room or even on the way to the head makes me feel uncomfortable.
I was told there were like 5 ladies all sharing the same incall. Way too dangerous for me, imho.
But, I know of at least 3 other agencies that run incalls like that. One I have been to a while back actually had other guys hanging out with the owner when clients were coming and going...not comfortable for me.
But in the end there are probably as many business models as there are creative business owners. So for me, I pay attention. I stay away from those indy or agency who don't provide good service or who thrive on drama and troublemaking.
If you read the boards and pay attention you can most of the time avoid the bs. Other than that I stay out of the business end. As long as it doesn't affect my experience, I don't need to get involved. It's like any other business, if the competition is getting a leg up, you need to adapt.
Willy
"One I have been to a while back actually had other guys hanging out with the owner when clients were coming and going...not comfortable for me"
Many years ago.....We ran like that and funny when it was You that was hanging around cheescaking us all it was OK? That incident was what 9 years ago??? Things are Very Different Now... That whole "friendship, trust, devotion and loyalty that you developed between your local Madam and Yourself...Are Gone. No Ones run into eachother accidently because My girls have brains and they open the door Say "Clear" and move fwd if so.
tyvm,P.T.
-- Modified on 8/25/2012 7:28:08 PM
Why don't the two of you just take your personal problems someplace else or go apeshit on each other in one single thread? Stop dragging your baggage around and stinking up the board.