I like this idea, but you also have to factor in different folks preferences
As you say, Some people love the $40 bottle verus the $200 bottle, but there is a huge market out there for the $15 bottle from Costco. It might not be special occasion wine, but definitely acceptable for a huge part of the population for weekday or weekend drinking. There is also a significant potion of folks that routinely go to Kroger to buy their $5.99 chugging wine.
Point of this is that "value" is a fairly subjective concept.
Personally, I am a big fan of the $15 wine from Costco (work with me on the visual, and I'm sure you can imagine what Costco symbolizes). You might have to do a little more research but you absolutely find wines there that have great body, excellent legs, fabulous bouquet and go down reply well (sorry had to go there). I personally find that great "value" and I enjoy drinking a bottle of Costco wine once or twice a week.
Every now and a again I treat myself and go to one of the well known wholesalers around the city. I am prepared to pay a bit extra for nice packaging, a bit more mature and multi dimensional. I am prepared to pay extra for that because it's a special occasion and I take more time to enjoy a couple of times,
I'll stop my double entendre-laced visual now, but any such scale would have to accommodate a broad definition of value. - perhaps a time element? A 20 minute, blow your mind session with a 7 or 8 for $80 is really good value in my book. As is a $250 hour double pop session with a 8 or 9
I choose a provider like I choose a fine wine - I look for a good price/value ratio. I would rather drink a $40 wine rated a 92 vs. a 100pt Robert Parker for $200+. It is easy to find a '10' in Atlanta if you don't mind spending $400/hour, but I would rather see a solid '8' for $250. Therefore, I would like to propose that TER adds a 'value ratio' to a providers profile and search engine.
I am open to suggestions on a formula to calculate the ratio, but I would propose something like cost/(looks + performance). Therefore a girl who is $500/hour with a 10 for looks and 10 for performance would have a ratio of 400/(10+10)= 20, while the other girl would be 250/(8+8)= 15.63. I realize that it is not perfect, but it is a starting point!
Thoughts? Suggestions
Anyone who wants to recommend a good price/value ratio provider would also be appreciated!
Unfortunately, the problem we all run into is our rating scale. There are girls I see as a 7 that others have rated a 9 or 10 and girls I rate at a 10, might be an 8 to someone else.
I have been doing this since 1991 and I have come to the realization it is all about your comfort level. I have spent as much as $750 for a well known pornstar and as little as $100 just a year ago...
I am comfortable with the $275-$350 range and again, I think you pay for looks and performance.
Will I drop $500 on a lady, every now and then I will... I will also seek out a double for that same rate if I can for fun...
I agree that ratings can be VERY subjective.....one man's 7 is another man's 10. Maybe we set a minimum number of reviews before a 'value ratio' is calculated. If a girl has 5+ reviews I think we should be able to 'average out' any hobbyist who 'over rated' or 'under rated' a provider.
Hmmm..... if the reviewers are the x-factor, we could always start rating them on a 1-10 scale. Brilliant!
Posted By: JKNE43
Unfortunately, the problem we all run into is our rating scale. There are girls I see as a 7 that others have rated a 9 or 10 and girls I rate at a 10, might be an 8 to someone else.
I have been doing this since 1991 and I have come to the realization it is all about your comfort level. I have spent as much as $750 for a well known pornstar and as little as $100 just a year ago...
I am comfortable with the $275-$350 range and again, I think you pay for looks and performance.
Will I drop $500 on a lady, every now and then I will... I will also seek out a double for that same rate if I can for fun...
I am getting a lot of PMs asking which providers I think offer a great 'value ratio'. Two girls that I see on a regular basis are Isabella and Rose. Both offer great 'value ratios' IMHO.
I like this idea, but you also have to factor in different folks preferences
As you say, Some people love the $40 bottle verus the $200 bottle, but there is a huge market out there for the $15 bottle from Costco. It might not be special occasion wine, but definitely acceptable for a huge part of the population for weekday or weekend drinking. There is also a significant potion of folks that routinely go to Kroger to buy their $5.99 chugging wine.
Point of this is that "value" is a fairly subjective concept.
Personally, I am a big fan of the $15 wine from Costco (work with me on the visual, and I'm sure you can imagine what Costco symbolizes). You might have to do a little more research but you absolutely find wines there that have great body, excellent legs, fabulous bouquet and go down reply well (sorry had to go there). I personally find that great "value" and I enjoy drinking a bottle of Costco wine once or twice a week.
Every now and a again I treat myself and go to one of the well known wholesalers around the city. I am prepared to pay a bit extra for nice packaging, a bit more mature and multi dimensional. I am prepared to pay extra for that because it's a special occasion and I take more time to enjoy a couple of times,
I'll stop my double entendre-laced visual now, but any such scale would have to accommodate a broad definition of value. - perhaps a time element? A 20 minute, blow your mind session with a 7 or 8 for $80 is really good value in my book. As is a $250 hour double pop session with a 8 or 9
Placing value on pussy hmm, its tough because appearance ratings are subjective. What I like to do is way the pros and cons of each price range.
For example If I want to spend 250HR, I will pick from 3 gals from my favorites list and decide upon appearance and performance, At 250HR its all about the performance for me. However when I chose gals in the 300HR to 350HR price range there are no exceptions, I expect at least a 9/9.
The Atlanta market is really good and competitive right now, so I allow the ladies to dictate who I see if that makes any sense at all lol.
The inherent problem, as has already been mentioned, is how to "smooth" the ratings when you have idiots that believe every piece of pussy and every performance is a "Once in a Lifetime" 10-10.
I didn't do too well at statistics in college, 9am class, didn't work well with my drinking schedule, but I believe that statistically over time the outliers will be smoothed away. If 99% of the rating are an 8/8 and you get 1 10/10 then it would not affect the average rating too much.
I do like the idea about having different price points for the value rating
Less than $100 $100-$200 $200-$300 $300 - $400 $400 and above might be a good set of ranges to start with
Posted By: BiPodJamesGF
The inherent problem, as has already been mentioned, is how to "smooth" the ratings when you have idiots that believe every piece of pussy and every performance is a "Once in a Lifetime" 10-10.
People tend to stick to providers in a particular price range, so they are going to compare with other providers in the same price range.
Let's say someone has a price range of $250-300. He might find some at that price that he thinks is a "10" in comparison with others he's seen.
Someone else might be used to $400+. He might see the same woman and think she's a 7 or 8 in comparison with what he's used to.
See the problem? The first might think she's a great value, the second -- not so much. Now, I suppose if you limit the "value" reviews to guys who have seen dozens of models at all price points, it might work. But even then, I've read reviews from some of those experienced guys that I don't agree with at all. Good idea, though. Keep 'em coming!
Way too many variables that you forgot to take into consideration.
1. Multi hour discounts
Lets say TER added this feature. Where do I rate on your Value Ratio approach as far as 1h vs 2h vs 4h vs Clock free?
According to ter, my numbers are
8.6 combined average 8 - Appearance 9.2 - Performance.
Lets use your formula:
At my usual rates this brings us to:
1 h 400/(8+9.2)=23.25581395 2 h 650/(8+9.2)=37.79069767 4 h 900/(8+9.2)=52.3255814 7 h 1100/(8+9.2)=63.95348837 12h 2000/(8+9.2)=116.2790698
So if you are seeking 1h engagements and Joe Smith is interested in primarily 4 hour dinner dates, he is looking at much higher value ratio than you are!
Now, most ladies advertise specials and pre-booking discounts.
Lets take a look at my current prebooking specials for my tour.
Once you use average combined score vs sum of two, ratio numbers seem to go us, but under both scenarios your value ratio seems to be higher at standard vs discounted rates.
So unless this new TER feature will factor in fluctuating rates and multi hour discounts, it won't accomplish desired result.
We've had similar conversations before........and everybody has a price range they're comfortable with. I think there are some GREAT ladies in Atlanta in the 225-300 an hour range. That's where I'm comfortable. I've ventured out to the 400-500 range I think 4 times. Probably 2 x 4 there as far as if I thought it was worth the extra dollars or not. I go to Vegas once a year for a trade show. And comparing the 2, I think we're very fortunate in Georgia. A great 250-300 an hour provider could easily charge 400-500 out there. Obviously a different market. There is one provider in Atlanta that I've wanted to see for years. She has an amazing hard body with great legs and enhanced breasts. Great reviews and pics, but I just can't pull the trigger at 600 an hour. As hard as I've tried ( the few times, I've had that amount in the hobby budget) I just couldn't justify it with so many other great options in Atlanta. As far as ratings.....a total of 15 gets my attention. If somebody is constantly getting 7's in appearance and 8's in performance, I'm interested. You can even turn that around with the 8 being in looks and 7 in performance and I'm interested, though I prefer the 8 be in performance. She'd have to be a 9 in looks for me to ever be interested in CBBJ.
Your logic is slightly flawed. Based on the OP's formula, the best "bang for your buck" should be a lower number. Technically, a $20 provider who is a 10/10 would give a "1." Yes, this logic is also flawed, even if it may be a complete fantasy to find such a provider
I digress.
The ratios need to be set on a level ground for multi-hour discounts. So, in your original response you listed:
1 h 400/(8+9.2)=23.25581395 2 h 650/(8+9.2)=37.79069767 4 h 900/(8+9.2)=52.3255814 7 h 1100/(8+9.2)=63.95348837 12h 2000/(8+9.2)=116.2790698
Naturally, the ratios will increase, since the donation increases. This is not what you want and it occurs by not accounting for the common denominator: TIME. So, if we adjust for time (ie divide by the number of hours), the ratios change and fall more in line with the expected outcome:
1 h 400/(8+9.2)=23.25581395/1 = 23.25 2 h 650/(8+9.2)=37.79069767/2 = 18.89 4 h 900/(8+9.2)=52.3255814/4 = 13.08 7 h 1100/(8+9.2)=63.95348837/7 = 9.13 12h 2000/(8+9.2)=116.2790698/12 = 9.68
So, using your numbers, your best ratio is for a 7 hour visit.
You may now return to your regularly scheduled programming...
What if we rate appearance on a 1 to 10 scale? Then list performance on a 1 to 10 scale based upon fixed standards. Finally, list the price paid. Oh wait, that's what it is now. Never mind.
Can get you to validate the reported numbers for accuracy and reliability. Don't want any misleading scores causing poor hobbyist to spend money unwisely
All these numbers make my head hurt. I look, I read, I ask ( back channel) I like, I call, I pay, We fuck. I really like to keep it simple. Yes, donation matters due to my budget, but with all the lovelies in Atlanta that are in my price range I never run out of ladies to see and I'm very happy with that. If I spent a lot of time figuring (as in doing the math) it wouldn't be fun anymore.
the real problem that the OP is talking about hits home with me. YOU rate a girl a 10, I go see here, and Im like WTF is this guy talking about? she's maybe a 7. some good advise given to me, was if you're going to take "advice" from a reviewer, look at his other reviews and compare how he hands out scores.
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around the city. I am prepared to pay a bit extra for nice packaging, a bit more mature and multi dimensional. I am prepared to pay extra for that because it's a special occasion and I take more time to enjoy a couple of times,
