It's not always 100% business and 0% friendship.

In the "real world" I do business with people I like and sometimes we have a business friendship.  In the real world if someone I don't know asked me about someone I have done business with, I would be honest with both parties.  I would tell my business friends if someone was checking them out.

I emailed 12 hobbyists, all that had seen a young lady whom I had never seen before.  I asked them all the same question, regarding their experience, what I could do to make it better, their personal take on her attractiveness (since her face is blurred) and then wished them a happy hobbying.  Then today the young lady emails me saying that she had a few people contact her about it.

What the fuck guys!? Are we not here to ask and answer questions for one another... isn't that what this site is for? Why would you then, and it was a few of you (3 or more) decide it was your right to tell her I was asking questions.  I wasn't acting in a manner that would prompt you to think I was going to do anything to endanger or make her feel uncomfortable, I simply asked your opinion on her attractiveness and what I could do to make it better.  

I think this is bullshit.  I thought we had trust in each other.  I thought we are suppose to ask questions and inquire if we hadn't seen someone.

To the ones that thought it was your right to tell her I emailed you, go fuck yourself. Your a jackass and I hope karma comes for you.

Sincerley,
JKNE

I have to say though that 12 PM's seems a little excessive. I would normally send a PM, maybe two and generally to contacts that I know.

Unfortunately, white knights and pussy whipped hobbyists will run to the providers. Perhaps narrowing down your contacts will help somewhat for future reference.

In spite of the idiots, you should explain to her that you are thorough and choosing your sessions wisely. I am sure she can understand that.  

I have VIP access.  The reason I did it that way is I am super busy and just don't the time to sit and research (again, what I thought this forum was for). I did get some guys who gave me GREAT feedback, but then I got the email from the young lady and I was pissed.  Not at her at all... at the ass clowns who "think" they have some sort of maladjusted idea that they are her prince, wrapped in hundred dollar bills.

I will be more careful in the future to just ask the guys I know on here who are reputable hobbyists.  I did the same for Brianna weeks ago and got great feedback.

I forget that dudes on here can't separate real life from the hobby... they ruin it for all of us.  Again, I use the term "ass clown" when referring to them (and you know who you are)!

JKNE

You are probably one of the ASS CLOWNS hiding behind an alias!

No shit! And don't think that the providers don't make fun of them too, because they do.  SEPARATE the difference!!

NEWS FLASH: I am having a paid relationship with the girl you are "in love with" and I was better than you at it.  That you can take to the bank!

JKNE

telling us the names of the hobbyists who contacted the lady. I'm *not* saying whether it was right or wrong of them to do so. But, I do think that is information that other hobbyists would like to know. Personally for me, I don't care if a lady knows I'm asking about her. However, I can see why it is bothersome to you (and, I'm sure, to others). If it did bother me I'd want to know which guys to not contact when looking for information.

Besides, they weren't protective of your inquires about the lady so I don't think they should have a problem about you noting being protective of their handles.

Just my 2¢.

As always, be safe and have fun

In general you have a right to be disappointed, however there are white knights here who believe they have special relationships with the providers and will curry favor where possible.  The risk of that might have been mitigated two ways.  One you could have tracked the other reviews of the gents in question to look for trends in what they like and don't like assuming you have VIP access.  This would have avoided many of the experience questions.  As to the looks question I think it is legitimate as the looks value here is a matter of personal taste and highly subjective.  However even that could be handled by researching the other ladies that these gents may have seen and if they had facial pics understanding what their rating meant.  Part of the problem maybe the volume of people you queried?  Twelve seems like quite a few.  If you don't have VIP access might want to invest for a month or two and make a short list.  Its worth the investment to have the research capabilities.

And with that I will stop my unauthorized sales presentation for TER VIP access.

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To "white knights and pussy whipped hobbyists"....stop foolishly thinking you will become her favorite client.  Do you really think she will be friends if you if you stop paying?

Nobody likes a tattle tale on trivial shit.  12 does seem a bit excessive...you must be very though. I've only been around a few months and it still amazes me the douchebuggery of some of the guys on here.

I rarely check if there is a PM, others may do the same

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I'm with you, JKNE, mostly (12 may have been a little excessive, but I see your point. ) You have every right to be upset at the momma's boy who went running to the provider, whatever his reasons may have been.  She should be somewhat upset at the thought of some guy sticking his nose in business that clearly isn't his own.  What else might he be doing to "protect" his provider that she doesn't know about?  Hopefully nothing, but it should give her cause for concern.  But there are nuts out there.  I received a PM once about a review I had written, and he asked me a very arcane question about one almost insignificant part of my review.  I was polite and told him not to worry, but to just go see her and gave my recommendation.  He followed that up with very crude language, saying he just wants to research someone before he lays out his hard earned money.  (He also accused me of wanting to keep her to myself, which I couldn't understand because I had just strongly recommended he go see her.  There was a severe logic disconnect in his rantings.)  By now I was starting to lose my patience with him, and pointed out that there were 26 other outstanding reviews, and he should be able to make a decision by now (I may have also said something about getting off his computer, grow a man-sized pair of balls, and make up his mind.  I had had enough of this jerk by now lol.)  My point being, there are many obviously great men involved in this community, but let's hope that the jerks are in the minority.

You pussy, way to go using an Alias.

I am glad you were not upset with the provider having dated one I have first hand knowledge that there can be stalkers and they can never be too careful.  Most are pretty nervous when they meet someone for the first time.

You sound exactly like a mangina or a snotty bitch.
Both of which have no concept of loyalty, class, discretion, or character.
Good luck with your self-delusion.

Me asking for insight on lady or reviewed session, having note forwarded to lady.

Me being asked for insight on a lady or session and having response forwarded.  

I do think it is okay for me to let ladies I see regularly know that interest is sought.  Limited to basically name only, primarily because it is a conversation topic we might touch on in a session, or rather between sessions if you catch my drift.  

Additionally, I think it is courtesy if someone provides a back channel referral that leads you to a session, to give them recognition, again limited to general things.

One time a respected member did "out" me on some feedback.  He is someone I would consider a friend, he felt my reaction had to be mistake, and he arranged for lady and me to resolve grievance.  Nothing behind either of our backs, but he did successfully help lady and I come to understanding. Difference here, I knew what he did, when he did it and he was proven correct.

Find three or four hobbiest you can trust, network that way.  PM's to every reviewer on a ladies scorecard might be bit much, but I can understand that not everyone back channels same way, or with everybody

My friend, always contact the squeeze. I do not review everyone I see and I do know the best buds in the Hobby and some that don't post anymore. We will always have your back. as far as the few that contacted her about you .....fuck em.....they aren't us...and if you give me her name I will go see her and give you a personal review...unless she is 500 lbs and has no teeth...well no teeth is okay.  keep it positive bro...

Some guys are just douchebags, here especially when they can be WK's or internet tough guys, it varies on the reasons.

Don't take it personally, just keep doing you.  This will blow over, even though you have a right to be pissed, Bro.

I would question Squeeze's sources.

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My friend, always contact the squeeze. I do not review everyone I see and I do know the best buds in the Hobby and some that don't post anymore. We will always have your back. as far as the few that contacted her about you .....fuck em.....they aren't us...and if you give me her name I will go see her and give you a personal review...unless she is 500 lbs and has no teeth...well no teeth is okay.  keep it positive bro...

One easy question.  Are you really shocked by what you learned?

There are all types here with all sorts of agendas.  I have no idea why someone would feel the need to let her know and am simply left saying, "I wish I was shocked with what you learned, but I am not."