I would like some REAL feed back, Ladies and Gents
Although I have been on this board since around 2001, I have been bashed, criticized, been ignored, and have been threaten. But I take it all like a gain of salt.
My point here is ask how many hobbist here, have an ATF, UTR lady that they have known for more than 5+ years and whats makes her so special? would you say you know enough of each other not to have a secrets.
Guys, How would you handle if you had 1 UTR lady you have known for 12+ years and you just found out she was getting a divorce and you didn't even know she was married?
I now have one UTR now going on 10 years this upcoming Janurary and I hope, I still have a friend that goes back to the day of A trip with MOTHER NATURE, No names but she knows who she is, and she is sexy.
Honest opinios please and NO, I am not in Love except with my wife....
As a provider, maybe am a little too trusting and a little too honest but I am not married nor have any kids so I feel I can be a little more open with my life. I know some girls on here that you gents have praised as all time favorites and the truth is they have a guy at home that plays playstion all day and your money is going straight to him . Ya'll support gals that obviously work for pimps but the low price is all you think about (hmmm...backpage). You overlook the signs that a provider is seriously smoking meth pipes. Some girls husbands have no idea they do this! Thier so naive they think shes waiting tables. The lies go on and on....... But for my friendly advice: This is no surprise--She has secrets and she didnt want you know because she probably lies to herself too
That caught up with her but it was the most surprising one on my end when I found out she was married.
I always try to go from word of advise from friends to fine someone as to BP or the other sites, But there are some that are legit on there too. Now I look for the MILFs....
thanks for your input.
Jim
well how do you know when a provider is smoking a meth pipe?
GT
There's an UTR lady I see off/on for years. I have to admit that she knows more about me than I know bout her. Nature of the business I imagine.... since in my profession, I know more about my customers than they know about me.
You might think/get the impression that pillow talk gets you more info, but that's not always true.
If you think of her as a friend and not a provider, ask her if she needs a shoulder.
If she's strictly business, give her the same platitudes you'd give an acquaintance.
my 2 cents.
for her in the past and she has cried on my shoulder so to speak of. But what I am venting is, it has been over 3 months now since I emailed her with no responce back. So, I have turned loose the line and let her go with the flow.
If she didnt tell you all this time...she assumed it wasnt your business. And come on....Did you really expect her to tell you when she was getting your money...and OBVIOUSLY you would have a problem with it???
I tend to agree with Addison here. Maybe she just didn't feel comfortable sharing that aspect of her life or she thought you would have a problem with it. Or she possibly had a bad experience with a different client when they found out she was married.
Very first reaction is, I would be surprised and think WTF. But the after thoughts would be "why am I surprised?" Yes, I've known her x number of years. Yes, I know a lot about her. Verifiable things not just any ol' thing she told me. I'm often surprised initially but then realize we are friends but there is no way we can know everything even if they say, I tell you everything.
I've learned this from experience. I haven't known a provider more than a couple of years but I have had a couple of lady friends that are/were strippers. I'd say my life mixed with theirs a lot more than any provider I know and yet after as many as 5 years there were still WTF moments when I would find out something I figured I should have known. Even had this happen with civvie life friends. You will never know what you don't know.
It can be a rude awakening because you assume there is a level of trust there that isn't with others. Your right there is a high level of trust after all those years but for everyone there is that thing that they don't/won't tell no matter what.
As for what makes a long time ATF special? It's the fact that she knows me in the ways that matter inside the relationship we have as provider and client. There are things we know about each other. We trust each other within the boundaries of that. We may know things that are not really a part of that but we can't ever think we know "everything". My experience and now yours bears this out.
Wow, dude, I know you must feel a bit betrayed but that will pass. I've been seeing an UTR gal for nearly 15 years. I met her from a BP add and we just hit it off like gangbusters. I see her probably two or three times a week. Each time, her rate for me is half what she used to advertise and virtually any service you can think of is available to me even though she never offered that much to others. Best of all, only the first hour is on the clock and two or three additional hours are free. We've taken many weekend trips together, we communicate daily, we've made movies together.... I could go on and on. Bottom line is that we have a special relationship that so far has been perfectly rewarding for both of us. We genuinely enjoy each other.
Presonally, if someone wants me to tell me somethings, I will listen, will never pry to get information. Likewise, if I want tell someone something I will. Always lived by the philosophy the less I know the better of I am, and less other people know about me the better of I am.
Never had any interest in knowing everything about someone. Life is complex, lot of things good and bad happen, let the past be past, live in the present and don't make the same damn mistakes in the future and live to the fullest while living here and the now.
Why get saddled with useless nonsense, does nothing to your happiness or wellbeing.
You've known her for 12+ years and she lied the whole time??
I mean really. What's wrong with people?
You've paid to fuck her for 12+ years and she never told you about her personal life? My oh my who does she think she is?
Oh wait. She thinks she's a business person who's been seeing a schmuck for over a decade and given him exactly what he's paid for. Nothing more nothing less.
So. Since lying upsets you so much.........
How many years have you been lying to your wife, hotshot?
As much as some of you wanna read Jim the riot act and make assumptions about his relationships with his ATF's, he'll get no harsh words from me. I've got some experience in this area myself, it was really bad, but I've not walked a mile in Jim's shoes and neither have you guys.
Truth is, there is more than one "Maneater" out there and they'll get their claws in you and go for the jugular. Best wishes Jim and if you need to talk, feel free to PM me.
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