I understood what you were asking.
You are assuming that the "things" I am doing are bad. I would care to differ with you. I'm not going to get into a debate with you about bad versus good. Your'e right, the dicisions we make may or may not be "good", but people, I believe essentially all are. I also find it interesting that you say you "won't judge me" for being happy with my life. I suppose thanks are in order.
I too know girls who's children don't live with them and live a lifestyle as you describe. I can't second guess why she does it but if I were, it could be guilt motivated. I also know that we all walk a different and unique path in life. We all have different vibrations of life within us and some can deal with more than others. We all walk at a different pace and grow at different rates. Let's be thankful that the person you know had a mother to take care of this little girl. I think that sometimes all we can do is be there in whatever way we can without being abused for people like this and not judge. From my experience, things will either be ok, or they will be ok.
I still choose not to be nasty. Lots of people like to taunt to bring you down, but I still choose not to be that way.
Listen, I know a few of you have helped out Deanna's people in Alabama. I will be making a donation of little more than half of my session money to thier needs between now and Monday. I'll be available day and night until then. Right now my rate is $225 and I will go ahead and donate $125.00 of it towards buying clothes for the little boy as well as a grocery certificate to Krogers. I have spoken to Deanna and she will make another delivery over there the first of the week. If you want to see me or want to make another donation, I am sure Deanna will be more than happy to take it.
I want to share with you something about Deanna from my personal experience. This woman has a heart of gold. We all know her to be an incredible wild ass. We love her for that. Over the past number of years we have developed a relationship of respect despite a huge number of differences. Nonetheless, her heart is much more grand than most of us realize, and I am sure she has many rewards waiting for her in Heaven.
Let's help out.
xoxo
B
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And who are "Deanna's People"? Is this her family? Is it her son? Who are they?
I copied Deanna's post so you can read it.
lol
Dear diary I am sorry it has been so long since i have posted here but I have been oh so busy but I did want to pass along this true Christmas wish that I just have to share with you all.. Now to those of you who have not met me .. I come from a small small town of like 2000 people in alabama.. well it is a town where everybody knows everybody.. and I always hear the latest on whose who when I travel back to see the Kids.. anyway I heard the saddest thing this morning.. see right down the road in the house where one of my sons best friends used to live.. well another family moved in back during the summer .. well it seems that the family is older with a young son that is i think 10 well his school teacher.. (small rural k-12 600 kids kinda school) decided to give each child two dollars for christmas and they walked across the highway to the dollar store and could purchase whatever they wanted with the money .. but see the teacher was confused when she checked what the young boy had wanted to purchase and all it was .... candles.. she asked him why and he kindly explained that his dad got hurt at work and had not been back in months and that his mom worked at the kroger in rome ga .. but times were hard and right now they didnt have any power so he just wanted to get the candles so that he could have some light..
now people if this does not touch your heart something is wrong with you...
I just want to let you know i have checked and my family is still looking into things but the power bill has accumulated to a little over 500 dolars...
they asked the churches in town and since they are not members.. they dont get help.. anyway just so you know im doing everything i possibly can to help have the power cut back on and get that boy a christmas tree and show him that there are people in the world that do care about the true meaning of christmas..
thank you all for reading this keep me in your thoughts as i try to do all i can. hugs deanna
but many women in this business, like Deanna have kids of their own and the kids do not live with them. They are much more deprived than this little boy. At least he has his mother every day.
Rather than see Deanna put all of this effort for other kids, I would like to see her get out of this business, get a real job, and be with her children. She is not the only one. Apparently a few of these 'Bama girls are in the same boat.
Then again, I don't know the entire situation. Maybe the authorities have already deemed her unfit and all she has is visitation. Just seems her own children are missing out the most.
I read most of the post on this board --why are most of yours so negative? In another post you seem to take joy over a provider being busted. You had info on that made me believe you had something to do with the bust. Not trying to be an a** just noticed a pattern.
Well I know for sure Rick is ATLG8R and whoever ALTDOOD is I am sure he/she is in tight with Rick. This ALTDOOD seems so intent on keeping Annya out of the business and seems so smug and happy that she was arrested, well let me just say that Annya is Not out of the biz but is working low key, so do your best Rick and cronies to find her and try to have her arrested again. Meanwhile the tables are turning on you and your anorexic providers because the cops know what a phycho you are and there watching you.
ATLDOOD try not to be so hateful! This really is not a venue for an ethics debate. Everyone has there own misfortunes and mistakes they make in life. Being this time of year, I don't think it is kosher to get on here just to bash a couple of girls for having big hearts. Regardless of someones past, they have the right to be generous and caring to others and I commend them for that. Please be more constructive with your comments and have a good christmas.
When somebody willingly shows themself as a complete jerk, I'm only too happy to help them.
Your first post in the thread had some merit. Yes, there are many women in the business who have estranged family situations and we all could make better life choices now and again. However, this comment is as classless as anything I've ever seen written on any of the boards at TER. Some would censor this comment. I think it should remain here as a monument.
thirsty
Thirsty, your right on target. I guess with anything in life, you have sugar and you have shit!!
Ouch!!! It's a noble thing Deanna wants to do. I don't know her. If her kids are deprived, she should devote her efforts to right that ship.
I'm interested in knowing the psychology behind why many providers want to help the needy.
Regards
There are several reasons but will try to share a few.
I was one of the very very lucky people who have come from a home without divorce or abuse and many of the other horrible things that happen in so many homes. By no means was it perfect but I am very fortunate. When I was little, my parents taught me that "With blessings come the responibility of giving." That is something I know like I know my own name. I live by that as much as I can.
Another reason is because some of us realize that we are very fortunate to have a "job" that allows us many luxuries such as time with family, money to live in a single household and not have to work like there are two breadwinners. People like Deanna are blessed to have the ability to give when we know of those that suffer.
The best reason is that when we give, and teach others, like our children to give, we are passing faith in others forward to the next generation.
Trust and good faith among others is such a rarity, especially in this business, it's good to know we still have benevolence within ourselves.... it's good to know we are alive in our own hearts.
We are all blessed in ways we don't realize...
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Very well put!! Your a true sweetheart!! I hope you and your son have a great christmas!! Thanx for sharing your cheer.
PS...If you find a way to bottle you up, then wrap and send to N.Ga. if not i guess I'll catch you on your next shopping trip.
Hey, if you get a wild hair and wanna get rid of your Jeep, lemme know. lol
I know you understand the value of love and life.... will think of you and your family over the holidays.
xoxo
B
The one you brought home from Vegas last year is the BOMB...The guy who gave you that is a special one for sure! ![]()
Raven honey, I hope you have a great Christmas.
xoxo
B
Brooke,
You may be nasty if you'd like. It is what it is. Growing up in a happy, healthy family is helpful in becoming a good person as a grown up. That by itself doesn't guarantee someone will be good or not.
The quality of your life is directly tied to the decisions you make and how you react to things that happen to you. The events are not as important as what you do about it.
You do what you do because you made the decision to do it. If you are happy with your life, great. I won't judge you for that.
I'm interested in knowing the answer to this question. Are you benevolent to others because it somehow makes up for bad things you do?
The reason I ask is this. I know a provider who has a child who lives with her Gramma. She parties her ass off while her mother is taking care of her kid in another state. She has all these dreams and aspirations but that's all they are. There is no action toward achieving them.
She is active in charities and has gone out of her way for her friends.
I sound like Billy Graham!!! lol
Regards
I understood what you were asking.
You are assuming that the "things" I am doing are bad. I would care to differ with you. I'm not going to get into a debate with you about bad versus good. Your'e right, the dicisions we make may or may not be "good", but people, I believe essentially all are. I also find it interesting that you say you "won't judge me" for being happy with my life. I suppose thanks are in order.
I too know girls who's children don't live with them and live a lifestyle as you describe. I can't second guess why she does it but if I were, it could be guilt motivated. I also know that we all walk a different and unique path in life. We all have different vibrations of life within us and some can deal with more than others. We all walk at a different pace and grow at different rates. Let's be thankful that the person you know had a mother to take care of this little girl. I think that sometimes all we can do is be there in whatever way we can without being abused for people like this and not judge. From my experience, things will either be ok, or they will be ok.
I still choose not to be nasty. Lots of people like to taunt to bring you down, but I still choose not to be that way.
I won't judge you for who you are or what you are unless you portray yourself as something that you're not. For example, if you say I'm living this lifestyle so I can earn a good living for me and my family. So be it. If you say you are doing that but you are doing it to support a drug habit, that's bad.
Regardless, you seem like a good hearted person. I wish you best and hope you get everything you want out of life.
Regards
I hesitate to respond because I feel I am respong to the same person I responded to earlier in this thread. Is another flag needed. Just be nice -- it never hurts.
Are you interested in the pschology behind the reason bankers and lawyers want to help the needy? I find Deanna most human and very noble.
We're not on a bankers or lawyers board. There are several lawyers and bankers in a civic group I belong to. We do alot of projects to help people in need. Some are in the club only say they are in the club. They don't do squat. Others are tireless.
My question is this. If you have kids and they don't live with you presumably because of your profession, why are you so motivated to help other people. Would it not make more sense to spend your time and energy enriching your own children's life?
There is no difference in a divorced father who never comes around but sends nice expensive gifts. What is his motivation?
Regards,
Only one way to take it, it's BS! After such a nice post by Brooke, your negativity and presumption stinks. You've got a lot of gall trying to tell anyone how they should live their life.
Get off the computer and go to sleep, the Ghost of Christmas Past is waiting to talk to you.
-- Modified on 12/22/2003 4:11:57 PM
Nothing against the profession Deanna is in but it happens to be the same profession her Mom is in. Deanna also does not live with her children. I know there are many other providers that do not live with their children. It is hard for me to understand how a mother would want to do that, and I am sure it is not good.
What are the effects on a child growing up away from their natural mom. Sure, you can throw money at them but that has negative repercussions as well.
Children only go through their childhood once. You cannot turn back the clock. If a mother decides not to live with and raise her children, no matter what profession she is in, those children are deprived, no matter how much she provides for them financially. The psycological and emotional damage is being done and may not show up now, but will eventually. I would much rather applaud someone leaving this business to be with their children.
While I truly do respect your ideas about children and having their moms full time, I also have some thoughts...
1- is there a difference in a woman who travles in corporate america for her $$...The only difference I see is better benefits...
2- why is it ok for a man to travel and be gone during the week or sevral days at a time while mom stays home with them...are those children not deprived of a dad...
3- how about our soldiers...do you feel that they should come home and forget about their job...they were not drafted...they chose their profession with the knowledge that they might have to leave their families at some point...
With those ideas in mind let me say this...You should check the mileage on Deannas car...
She does have a home here but she drives home to bama almost daily...She simply chose to provide a place to entertain to make the gents that see her feel more comfortable...WHICH I believe says something for her level of security and service...
I know there are other providers that do not have their children some the state took and others mom simply chose to let them live elsewhere...Either way that is a personal choice...I know ladies that suck at parenthood and I respect those ladies for knowing and accepting that a Dad or Grandmother could do better...
Now I know I will be bashed by some and loved by others for my opinion, but at this point I am used to it...I just had to say how I was feeling...
ladies and gents, lets all try to have a safe holiday...
XOXOX
HEIDI
Let me know how much you were able to contribute to Deannas friend...I will be glad to match it! Happy Holidays!
My kids are rotted and do without nothing.. i tell you .. i would not post on here for things for them.. they are the reason i work to send them to college.. I try to do what I can to help others .. but this time with this little feller it was a little over my help budget.. and I know you guys all have good hearts.. and .. well it didnt hurt to ask.. I appreciate all the kind words.. and al the donations and calls.. The family down the road from where my kids live in alabama will be having a merry christmas thanks to you all ..
Here is some food for thought:
It is better to do ones job (chosen), then coveting someone eleses job and thinking you can do it better than them!
Do whatever profession you choose, the best you can without regret and do it because it is your chosen profession and you know it is the right choice for you
Ask 5 people their opinion and you will get - How many will you get- It depends on the question
Everyone is smarter than you are after the fact but scared to make the move first
These are all my own concluasions from years of reading variety of subjects!
Have Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. May all your dreams and wishes come true in 2004 and beyond!
why don't you call me and I will be happy to tell you how much I spent and what I bought.
I look forward to your phone call.
678-886-3139
-- Modified on 12/22/2003 6:47:06 PM
You really out did yourself! Yours will be hard to match! I will try though and give donations to Deanna.
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