Where is the black list board? Why is it that men can review women but women can't respond to reviews or review men?
Does anyone else here find that to be unjust?
If this site is only for men to share their opinion..okay..but at least we should be able to respond to the review we are given.
Thankfully I do not have any bad reviews so I am not writing this with any animosity, I write for a just cause that has been neglected.
Providers deserve the same amount of respect and regard as the clients do. Can we please get with the times and show us you have that for us please?
I own a biz in Atlanta and your better believe EVERY SITE that allows aperson to write a review on my company gives me the opportunity to respond. After all, there are three sides to a story..not one.
You have mail![]()
where providers post these things. Men are not allowed in either of the boards
Does anyone else here find that to be unjust?
Just a question I've had for a long time. I have not addressed it because I have another job that takes most of my time...yet I've been stood up, yet again with no notice, no decency of cancellation. A supposedly solid appt. This happens too often for me not to finally address. I feel like there needs to be equality on this site. Not just a site for men to share their opinion without the ability to respond or the ability to voice their opinion of the boys..or the men..we see.
If this site is only for men to share their opinion..okay..but at least we should be able to respond to the review we are given.
Thankfully I do not have any bad reviews so I am not writing this with any animosity, I write for a just cause that has been neglected.
Providers deserve the same amount of respect and regard as the clients do. Can we please get with the times and show us you have that for us please?
I own a biz in Atlanta and your better believe EVERY SITE that allows aperson to write a review on my company gives me the opportunity to respond. After all, there are three sides to a story..not one.
What she means, is having a board where everyone gets to read it. Just like everyone gets to read the things you guys say about us! The fact that we have one section that is only accessible to us is the exact point she is trying to make
The provider board and DNS. I am not against provider review board but I see a practical problem. Board works on pseudonyms/handle and once provider have the information (I do know some of you know) then honest review will never happen. It is few and far between as is.
Most hobbits here is not going to stop calling you, just because you got one bad review.
Funny you should ask. There is a provider only board. And it's only for providers who post pics and regularly chat in this forum. I pay for membership just so I can screen people, but they won't let me access the providers section. So clearly my safety isn't important unless I'm posting nude pics![]()
Wrong babe you only need three reviews and request access. You should be good justl ask TER to let you In
They've said no because a girl doesn't post pics or engage enough in all the hoo ha! It's ridiculous.
Thank you! I did request, only once, that I have access to the provider board for updates about unsafe clients, etc.. Basically for another means of screening and safety. I was told to write them again in 3 months to request again.. Because they want to monitor what I write, make sure I'm stoking egos and posting half nude pics??? Just as the guys whine that "I shouldn't have to beg to pay for p&$$¥"... I shouldn't have to beg for access that I've already proven I deserve and have paid for.
My point of responding to this post is that TER is one sided, inequality as it was put, is certainly an issue here. I'm not looking to out clients, bash anyone for canceling, etc, but I am disappointed that another form of screening for my benefit has been declined because I'm not trying to advertise to this group of hobbiests
That's crazy I've been a member for years and rarely if ever maybe once in the last two years posted before I moved to Atlanta. Keep aking. But truly it does have some useful info but they are/can be just as mean and spiteful as the general boards. Same alias bullcrap, same attacts on boys and girls, same political bla Obama made the sky fall. Really it's intertaining at best. Again from time to time there is good, utr info but think about it, if its posted publicly probably not gonna be good too much longer sooo. We don't post nude pics, lol, just allot of girlfriend stuf. But good luck antway
They've said no because a girl doesn't post pics or engage enough in all the hoo ha! It's ridiculous.
Wednesday 12am: sent me email request for two hour visit on Friday (today)
Wednesday 7:30 am I responded with unless your references don't check out we are on, ill contact you later
Thursday 3pm I send email to confirm Friday appointment
Thursday 7 pm he responds I didn't confirm with him again in time for our scheduled visit 24hours from the confirmation time. He already called, scheduled and made plans with another lady.
I'm like really, no really? Your kidding right? Ok be safe, have fun.
I was thinking, you screwed me, lol, unilaterally, lol for not contacting you in time, yet you don't contact me to confirm, deny or even ask? How does that work?
It is what it is, some guys will always think and feel we are nice, pretty ladies who do great things with them. Unfortunately they forget we are actually regular people and this is a career choice. We eat, sleep and live in other ways besides with them. We are not always at a computer or phone monitoring mails like inspector 12. Some expect you to be and do things they themselves would not appreciate because "we can" they don't really consider how those no calls, bs cancellations, unreasonable requests for extra, OTC, lay overs affect our lives. Some can't conceive the fact that this is how a lot of ladies survive. I'm grateful for the ones who at least try to understand. Not angry at the others just a bit frustrated at expectations and standards not held by themselves.
I'd just like to say this, give back at the least what you expect in full. It goes both ways and makes for loving bedfellows.
Be safe, play hard,
Love, Joi Love
Absolutely agree! Thank you for posting!
Wednesday 7:30 am I responded with unless your references don't check out we are on, ill contact you later
Thursday 3pm I send email to confirm Friday appointment
Thursday 7 pm he responds I didn't confirm with him again in time for our scheduled visit 24hours from the confirmation time. He already called, scheduled and made plans with another lady.
I'm like really, no really? Your kidding right? Ok be safe, have fun.
I was thinking, you screwed me, lol, unilaterally, lol for not contacting you in time, yet you don't contact me to confirm, deny or even ask? How does that work?
It is what it is, some guys will always think and feel we are nice, pretty ladies who do great things with them. Unfortunately they forget we are actually regular people and this is a career choice. We eat, sleep and live in other ways besides with them. We are not always at a computer or phone monitoring mails like inspector 12. Some expect you to be and do things they themselves would not appreciate because "we can" they don't really consider how those no calls, bs cancellations, unreasonable requests for extra, OTC, lay overs affect our lives. Some can't conceive the fact that this is how a lot of ladies survive. I'm grateful for the ones who at least try to understand. Not angry at the others just a bit frustrated at expectations and standards not held by themselves.
I'd just like to say this, give back at the least what you expect in full. It goes both ways and makes for loving bedfellows.
Be safe, play hard,
Love, Joi Love
Some are also babies and needs to lead with a collar. They don’t how to use phone or email.
These idiots give rest of us a bad name.
You mentioned an NCNS and they are definitely disconcerting and can cause extreme inconvenience.
But: that goes equally for guys and gals who get NCNS'd.
There's really nothing a guy *or* a gal can do about it when it happens though.
Demanding or even suggesting the other party "do the right thing" (I.e. Pay a cancellation fee or offer a makeup appointment) just sours the atmosphere with the person - if you care about that kind of thing. If it isn't offered voluntarily it just has a compulsory/punishment type of feel to it, imo.
Posting an angry thread about it just makes the poster look vindictive, and vindictive isn't attractive.
As for Joi's post, dude sounds like a d-bag/gameplayer and my guess is he never had another appointment and he probably was emailing you with his pants off.
Just my thoughts.
You guys can get on this board and say her name and give out her personal info. Yo can essentially destroy her reputation. It happened a few weeks ago on this board. A provider had to cx. twice with a client and he slandered her up and down for it. We cant do that to you.
I don't even like the hobbyist in question, but fair is fair. I never saw ahything that makes me believe that hobbyist was being untruthful or unfair.
and yes you can do the same to us, that's what the PO board is for.
BTW we CANNOT give out her personal info, we can only give out what she chooses to give out in her ads, revealing "personal" info is a big TER nono and usually ends up with banishment, and rightfully so.
Guys do post personal info about girls here quite frequently. I flagged a response to a "where is she" post just the other day. Guy stated she was retired.. But look for her in "x" line of work. Really people??
I see reviews pop up with the girls real name in the juicy details.
You may not always catch the posts because, thankfully, most gals here try to watch out for each other and flag them.
Posting personal information is one of the biggest if not THE BIGGEST no no on TER, it should never be done, and it should never be tolerated. In the "old days" it would mean instant moderation and repeat, or malicious offenders would be banned.
I hav read many reviews over the last 10 + years never have seen anyones real name in juicy details. I do know instances where people got banned from TER for disclosing personal info
I concur !!! I have never read a review where a provider's personal info has been disclosed; if that is ever the case , it's instant bannishment.
MY REAL name was posted in one of MY reviews and nothing at all happened to the guy. Hell it may even still be there as it is a very old review.
Sometimes you guys don't always see what is really going on anyway. We have to really watch out for this kind of stuff constantly. Good to have other ladies that will watch our backs too
Hugs and kisses
TL
We can't even use screenames on the PO board. And there are tons of girls who have 20+ reviews and pay for membership who can't gain access for random ass reasons. It's an asset but it's far from what it could be.
TER was created for the guys, maybe some enterprising young (or not so young) lady should create a useful site, unlike some of the ridiculous BL sites that exist today, that fills that need.
I am not a woman nor am I a provider, but I am pretty sure that if I were a woman in this line of business, charging hundreds of dollars an hour. I would be more than happy to pay at least a couple of hundred bucks a year to have an accurate, and up to date list of time wasters and flakes. Some one should take this ball and run with it.
woman are notoriously cheap and would think somebody should buy the membership for her.
and
I believe when the economy tanked the ladies made the decision to raise rates and take less appointments for reasons beyond their control (woman hate that) This market decision came from the higher endof the spectrum that may have charge $ 250 5 years ago now have moved to the $ 350 plus level. Don't get me wrong still plenty of prime grade A for those grandfathered in or in the know because these guys are not time wasters and are gentlemen in the true meaning of the word.
YES!! GaGambler!!
You are spot on. I have thought about this very thing
just like the RO board......It's an asset but it's far from what it could be
There was no slander. Have you read her review? Go read then decide slander or not
It appears, you don’t know the difference between slander and truth
I will call it as is straight up.
I like to know how White Knights made an appointment with her, stand up.pears, you don’t know the difference between slander and truth
In hindsight, she did me a favor by canceling otherwise, I would have write bad review.
I dont know how to link the thread but it was pretty brutal. I felt really bad for her. She gave him the courtesy of letting him know that she needed to cancel but he wouldn't let up....
Where to blacklist ( the title of his thread) 10/5/13
"Last week, Veronica Savu posted a link asking this. At the time I sort of sided with her but now for the good of the community I am going to take it back.
I have set up appointments with her twice in row but she has cancelled bot at the last minute. First time, I told her “I understand” second time I told her, our meeting is not going to work out.
Do as you may but don’t be surprised, if you get a text at the last minute saying “Check your email. Important change in business meeting”.
Some sort of sick game she is plain"
EEEK. ![]()
I get it.
Are you fucking mad?
Yes Shawnie I do believe I remember you NCNS'd a double with a GF of mine too.
Some kind of sick game I guess lol Oh well shit happens I guess
Hugs and kisses
TL
Lol
But: that goes equally for guys and gals who get NCNS'd.
There's really nothing a guy *or* a gal can do about it when it happens though.
Demanding or even suggesting the other party "do the right thing" (I.e. Pay a cancellation fee or offer a makeup appointment) just sours the atmosphere with the person - if you care about that kind of thing. If it isn't offered voluntarily it just has a compulsory/punishment type of feel to it, imo.
Posting an angry thread about it just makes the poster look vindictive, and vindictive isn't attractive.
As for Joi's post, dude sounds like a d-bag/gameplayer and my guess is he never had another appointment and he probably was emailing you with his pants off.
Just my thoughts.
Yes, there is something everyone can do
Suppose you made an appointment for 5:30 PM and your boss sets up meeting 4:30 PM and you knew about it in the afternoon, why not call the person and let them know and reschedule for a later time or another day. Has happened to me numerous times but I have either called them, emailed or texted. None of them had a problem with it.
Believe that’s want most are asking for from both sides.
The move (cancellation fee/makeup appt etc) has to come from the person that did it.
OP sounded like she thought it only happens to ladies
Thought I was clear. Hope this helps!
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OP sounded like she thought it only happens to ladies
Thought I was clear. Hope this helps!
-- Modified on 11/2/2013 12:25:44 PM
I think it would be interesting transparency to call out habitual NCNS folks on both sides. The grapevine helps, but the only way to change some bad behaviors is for them to be out'd.
I've thought for a long time that it would be a hoot for the women to do reviews of the men. Betcha there would be lots of bruised egos (with mine probably among the leaders!) Would get in the way of the fantasy, though.
But I had a date scheduled for Thursday which lady contacted me and asked to change to today (Friday). I re-worked my calendar and told her OK. She sends me email last night that she needs to cancel. Very graciously offers me a 90 minute future appointment at 60 minute rate for all my trouble.
Reach out to another lady to fill void. She says OK for time I had scheduled originally with other lady. She says call me in morning to confirm. I call her she says she will have to call me back. After a call back and trading many texts the appointment is cancelled. She was already offering a special rate and offered a further rate reduction for a future appointment for as she put it "all the drama"
It's not a perfect world folks.....shit happens.
Yes, I understand what you are saying and yes, as someone mentioned earlier, stuff happens and we have to cancel. That is not my issue. My issue is to schedule a date, confirm a date, I get an in call location and you never have the decency TO cancel.
Not even bothering to call is the ultimate in disrespect, whether done by the man or the woman. Simply blowing off the other person shows zero respect for that other person.
It's a huge problem on both sides and I agree there should be a permanent place to post offenders. I would say "repeat offenders" but if you can't report him/her in the first place there is no way to know whether or not a person is a "repeat" offender.
I do agree that women should be able to name names when things like this happen, just like I believe in naming names when a woman pulls the same kind of bullshit. I actually believe in going one step further and creating a place where these types of things can be archived and researched, that way serial time wasters, double bookers, and outright flakes of both sexes can see a consequence to their actions.
NCNS is totally unacceptable not matter how you slice it for ALL involved
I just want to make this point as well, this board or that board is not fair to either the men or the women. I do believe that depending on the situation it can go both ways too. All the good folks in the community really need to stand up and not tolerate any of the stuff that really waste all of our time so we can get on to all the fun stuff and avoid the negative BS. ONLY way to do this is to let others know who is showing this kind of behavior.
Y'all know I love both of you too BTW!! lol My BFF and my fave man whore! OH yes!
good times to all
Hugs and kisses
TL
to talk badly about a client.
Its really not a good idea to gossip in a session because the degrees
of separation between providers/hobbiests are not that great. In other
words it gets back. Lies/ untruths do get exposed.
Hmmm, that is not a behavior I have indulged in. I dont talk about one hobbiest with another hobbiest. I definitely agree that is bad biz...however gossiping about others is not my point.
Bad behavior being underexposed is...I do not see that happening from a provider/hobbiest perspective, only from a hobbiest/provider view.
Women do not have a site to review men, to warn each other of bad behavior or to give our experience/review of our date. It is a small world and if we had a site where we could share our experience then men are less likely to behave badly and we are less likely to waste our time and money on those who take advantage of this obvious discrepancy.
I love me some Taylor and Erica! Girls, we need to meet. To have a choice..AND STAND UP FOR THAT VOICE is not something I run into often..unfortunately. too many are scared of the potential repercussions of such behavior. I adore any person who is willing to call a spade a spade. I really don't care about the numerous hate mails I'm receiving. It only weeds out the men from the immature, stuck in 17 year old mentality boys I have no desire to spend an hour with..even for 400 dollars.
And to the guy who said I/we are worthless since we sell out bodies to make our income, that we"obviously have no regard for ourselves and take the easy road for money" ...bitch..this ain't no easy road!!! It is an option for women who enjoy sex and are not bound by a marriage, as you are. We aren't marrying for money..no..we prefer freedom over bondage and since this country has yet to provide equality for all mankind we will use our gift of beauty and skill to pay our bills. Lucky you..that you have women like us..lord, what else would you do with the insatiable sex drive that you have?
Lastly, this began over my simply stating my frustration over a NCNS client. And that statement has been shit upon among many guys who like to think of themselves as men. I have received so much hateful immature emails simply because I shared my frustration. Even many of the responses to this thread have been not only off point but mute in worthy of response.
You have seen me and want to tell tales of your gentlemanly behavior? Hilarious, for your response has shown everyone reading what an asshole you are. If, and why don't I respond like shawnie does to yoy?? Is that a real question?? Let me break it down four you..because I'm NOT Shawnee, nothing at all like her in any way or form. That would be like me asking you why aren't you like my favorite men who respect my opinion and are not threatened by my intelligence. Geesh. That had to be the most ignorant question I've heard in years. And yes, I do believe there are dumb questions. Sorry, I never taught 4th grade.
Rightly so, I am posting this to the wrong email response. I read your retort but thought I would respond in the am to your antics for I didn't want to waste my time tonight yet it seems I have regardless. Hope you read it. If not I will repost an answer to your response in the am...in depth at that. Just don't have the time..or patience tonight.
Peace
After you pass my screening and meet my required donation.
And… I promise I won’t complain about the review.
...that while not all on TER are like this, the reality is that we have a disproportionate number of crazies, self esteem issue-ers, wackos, and thin skinners than in the regular world. Could you even imagine the cluster-fuck that would occur if the ladies were allowed to respond to reviews and then God forbid, reviewers comment back, and on an on?
The providers here aren't being critiqued on their landscaping, hairstyling, or executive skills. This is a world where sex, looks, and money collide. All that would do is start stupid wars over why a chick who thinks she's a 10 got a 9 and a guy that thinks he's suave can't believe he's been called a cheap slob.
As flawed as the system may be, the point of the sight is for guys to check ladies out, the sharing of ideas and info,choosing potential dates, etc. Gambler's suggestion is a good one as well as a petition signed by(electronically of course) as many TER providers and hobbyist members as you can get to lower the requirement to a reasonable level for access to 'provider's only' board and then present to TER admin. Their are a few 3rd party blacklist/warning sites out there for gals as well.
Ladies, the hard truth is that the money only goes in one direction. That said, I'd be more than happy to offset the cost with any lady here if as long as both of us have the option of reviewing each other.
Any takers?
Sir Cumalo
this made me smile
Ladies, the hard truth is that the money only goes in one direction. That said, I'd be more than happy to offset the cost with any lady here if as long as both of us have the option of reviewing each other.
Any takers?
Sir Cumalot
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...it didn't cost for u guys to do this and don't know what your post has to do with thread. 'The money goes one way' was meant in the grand context.
The need to defend your cost in a thread about the unfairness of ladies not being able to comment on reviews is a prime example of why ladies being able to comment on gent's reviews would be disasterous. On these boards u have every right to do so and I'll defend it.
That said, in reference to ur post I'll will update my offer from my above post with the offer of splitting costs 50/50 (hotel, etc...itemized list please) a lady incurs.
So again I ask, ladies...any takers?
Sir Cumalot
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Sir cumalot
You are the perfect example of why I am not a member of this community. It attracts boys like you that are disrespectful, condescending and come with an assumption that women are inferior to you.
Your responses speak so loudly into your character. Thus far you have been the only boy that has insulted the opinions shared this far. Anger issues? I presume so. Arrogant attitude that attempts to compensate for your low self esteem or jealousy of women? Most likely.
YOU are the one who brought up the money in your post, not the provider who attempted to explain to you that it does cost us money. Buying some outfit you request, maintaining 100 dollar manicures/pedicures monthly, hotel rooms we may never use because a douche NSNC, dude who "forgets" to get cash out of atm, all the details that go into a well manicured woman. Waxing, clothing, shoes, lingerie, photos..and on it goes.
Lastly mister cumalot..the only reason you can badly claim such a name is because of women like us who provide you the ability to live up to that name. I'm guessing your wife decided years ago she was done stroking that fragile ego of yours, hence why you are on TER. You pay us to meet the needs you can't get met on your own. We get paid for a service that escapes you because we can get our needs meet for free any time we desire and with a line in place.
I'm pretty confident no woman has taken you up on your pathetic offer of "splitting the bill so we can review you" comment. It seems the elementary factor that eludes you is that women don't have to do such things. We can get laid any time, any day..for free. And for you to think we should only have a voice if we pay for half is absolutely pathetic!
You should have more respect for the mouth that feeds your insatiable hunger.
Just because we provide a service to your hunger, does not mean we are indebted to you, owe you or deserve to be spoken to in such disrespectful manner.
Not all men on TER (most men are not) condescending and delusional as you, however this site attracts men such as yourself who mostly jack off to the details of a date and never set a real date up because you can't afford it or you get off on degenerating women..or both.
That is my most concerning issue with TER. THEY DEMAND intimate details of a date. Why not have a list of general questions answered without the requirement of okay be okay details? That only satisfies jerk offs (literally) who see a woman as a sex object and forgets she is a living, breathing, functional woman doing the best she can to provide for her family..just like each and every man does.
It is obviously a site created by a man, for a man.
Lastly (for real) I will tell you this. I have met many men..MEN..who do not visit this site because of the elaborate details required. It too, makes them sick to their stomach.
The need to defend your cost in a thread about the unfairness of ladies not being able to comment on reviews is a prime example of why ladies being able to comment on gents reviews would be disasterous. And on these boards u have every right to do so and I'll defend it.
That said, in reference to ur post I'll will update my offer from above post with the offer of costs 50/50 (hotel, etc...itemized list please).
So again I ask, ladies...any takers?
Sir Cumalot
I love providing and adore 99% of my clients but I wish some folks would remember the douche that started this "Man for Man" board and where he's at right now... Most of the men, aren't f*&ktards. But SOME of the men on this board make me want to vomit.
You are the perfect example of why I am not a member of this community. It attracts boys like you that are disrespectful, condescending and come with an assumption that women are inferior to you.
Your responses speak so loudly into your character. Thus far you have been the only boy that has insulted the opinions shared this far. Anger issues? I presume so. Arrogant attitude that attempts to compensate for your low self esteem or jealousy of women? Most likely.
YOU are the one who brought up the money in your post, not the provider who attempted to explain to you that it does cost us money. Buying some outfit you request, maintaining 100 dollar manicures/pedicures monthly, hotel rooms we may never use because a douche NSNC, dude who "forgets" to get cash out of atm, all the details that go into a well manicured woman. Waxing, clothing, shoes, lingerie, photos..and on it goes.
Lastly mister cumalot..the only reason you can badly claim such a name is because of women like us who provide you the ability to live up to that name. I'm guessing your wife decided years ago she was done stroking that fragile ego of yours, hence why you are on TER. You pay us to meet the needs you can't get met on your own. We get paid for a service that escapes you because we can get our needs meet for free any time we desire and with a line in place.
I'm pretty confident no woman has taken you up on your pathetic offer of "splitting the bill so we can review you" comment. It seems the elementary factor that eludes you is that women don't have to do such things. We can get laid any time, any day..for free. And for you to think we should only have a voice if we pay for half is absolutely pathetic!
You should have more respect for the mouth that feeds your insatiable hunger.
Just because we provide a service to your hunger, does not mean we are indebted to you, owe you or deserve to be spoken to in such disrespectful manner.
Not all men on TER (most men are not) condescending and delusional as you, however this site attracts men such as yourself who mostly jack off to the details of a date and never set a real date up because you can't afford it or you get off on degenerating women..or both.
That is my most concerning issue with TER. THEY DEMAND intimate details of a date. Why not have a list of general questions answered without the requirement of okay be okay details? That only satisfies jerk offs (literally) who see a woman as a sex object and forgets she is a living, breathing, functional woman doing the best she can to provide for her family..just like each and every man does.
It is obviously a site created by a man, for a man.
Lastly (for real) I will tell you this. I have met many men..MEN..who do not visit this site because of the elaborate details required. It too, makes them sick to their stomach.
The need to defend your cost in a thread about the unfairness of ladies not being able to comment on reviews is a prime example of why ladies being able to comment on gents reviews would be disasterous. And on these boards u have every right to do so and I'll defend it.
That said, in reference to ur post I'll will update my offer from above post with the offer of costs 50/50 (hotel, etc...itemized list please).
So again I ask, ladies...any takers?
Sir Cumalot
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I totally agree mama
Some douche keeps emailing me nasty comments about my post. I only posted to this thread because of unfair practices. Nothing to do with clients, just solely the treatment of providers on board.
Absolutely! I too have gotten nasty emails. And my comments have nothing to do with the gentlemen I see but everything to do with the kind of disrespectful guys who respond such as sir cumalot
Has. As though my opinion about being completely stood up is not worthy of discussing. I suppose he comes from the school that women are to be seen but not heard.
Agree 100% miss stone! ![]()
Congratulations, you have just proven why the rules are what they are.
I and Sir C for that matter, were actually sympathetic to your case, until you proved why allowing ubersensitive hooker would fill this board with drama every time they didn't get a ten ten review or someone made even the slightest criticism of them.
NCNS is a huge problem, on BOTH sides. shame on you for being so self centered as to derail a potentially productive thread on the subject by forgetting that the women are just as guilty as the men in this regard. I guess you just can't help yourself but to be catty. Your loss, not mine.
…and what the definition of 'condescending' is. When I saw you a few years back, I showed up with a bottle of wine and we both hung out, talked, laughed, etc. When retiring to bedroom, I told you how beautiful I thought you were and how cool you are…was that condescending?
Then right before we got down to business, you informed me that Aunt Flow had come to town on your drive in. You apologized and asked for me not to hold it against you. I didn't and never have. I also paid the full amount (and you ain't cheap), didn't haggle because of circumstances, trusted what you were saying was true, and was understanding because, life happens. I have since never said a negative thing about you, here or anywhere. In fact, we live close to each other and I offered to buy you a beer as (at the time) we both were frequenting the same pub. So I ask you, was all of that condescending?
Would someone who thinks that you're 'inferior' to them be as respectful as I was to your plight that evening? I have NEVER disrespected or ever did anything in a session that would make a lady uncomfortable. I despise that. In fact, I go out of my way to make the other person at ease and I am just as concerned about them enjoying themselves (if possible) and will go to just about any length to make that happen.I have also made the offer publicly on this board that if any provider I've seen and reviewed has a dispute or disagreement with my review of them, let me know. If reasonable, I will do whatever I can to correct it.
I've never had one lady take me up on the offer. Is that condescending?
I brought up money in the post in answer to your original one as to the 'why' of why TER does not do the things you were bringing up. It's a fact based in reality, not because I want it that way, but because it is. Erica's post concerning the cost she incurs doesn't have anything to do with your original post which I was addressing because I thought you brought up an interesting topic. My response to Erica was in defense of staying on track…to your OP post! Also made the point of how if things can go off topic on this board (using her post as example), imagine how crazy it would get with responses on reviews. I also said that I would defend her or anyone's right to go off topic, say want they feel, etc. as these boards are the appropriate place to do that. How is that condescending?
My 'pathetic offer' as you put it, was a tongue and cheek joke that I would expect no lady to take me up on or would want them to. Why is it that Shannon Kincaid gets that (who's a great lady I've known for a long time) and you don't? I also made the suggestion of a petition signing to TER that I would be more than happy to be a part of so it's NOT so difficult for you and other ladies to use the 'providers only' board. I thought Gambler's idea was good. How is that not supporting your and everyone else's 'voice'? It's good for everyone's safety. As I mentioned above, I didn't make the rule but understand why it is what it is for reasons I described. How is that condescending?
Let me tell you what IS 'condescending'. Not remembering the respect I treated you with when me met before you accuse me of being (all your words):
- disrespectful
- condescending
- coming with an assumption that women are inferior to me
- Anger issues
- You should have more respect for the mouth that feeds your insatiable hunger
- Arrogant attitude that attempts to compensate for your low self esteem or jealousy of women
- your wife decided years ago she was done stroking that fragile ego of yours
Also, your reference to me as a 'boy' insinuates I'm not a man. Let me tell you something, I work hard, pay my bills, have never ran out on my kids or mother of, and have helped more ladies here on a personal level than you'll ever know. How dare you make such uninformed, amateurish, unsubstantiated, and downright malicious accusations. Shame on you.
You also used the word 'arrogant'. Would you say this statement from you is arrogant?:
"We get paid for a service that escapes you because we can get our needs meet for free any time we desire and with a line in place. It seems the elementary factor that eludes you is that women don't have to do such things. We can get laid any time, any day..for free".
I could get really ugly here and defend myself by saying something to the effect of that "I've worked hard and thought outside the box to be able to make the money to be able to indulge in this fantasy world. You on the other hand have chosen to take what many would consider 'the easy way out' to make money because you didn't have what it takes to figure out a way to do it without having to sell yourself". But yet I don't assume that because everyone has their own cross to bear. If I were all the things you accused me of being, that wouldn't be the case…and everyone would know it.
If you're not active on this board, it's certainly not because of 'people like me'. Maybe you just think your better than everyone here, can't handle it because of your own self esteem issues, or you think everything is about you so you feel the need to irrationally put down others who have shown you only respect so you feel better about escorting? How's that for assuming?
If you want to review gents, blacklist, share sensitive info, etc. without the TER hassle, my suggestion is to create your own pay website to do just that. Would be much better than excoriating someone who is not (or at least wasn't before) your enemy.
Sir
and I will confess, despite her physical gifts. I lost ANY desire to ever see her after her post to you. She has proven exactly why the system here is what it is.
Some hookers just can't take the slightest bit of disagreement without going BSC and personal in nature, apparently the OP is one of those hookers. Her mini tirade towards you shows just what a petty and selfish woman she is.
I post on Classic where there is no "like" tab, but if I ever were to use the "like" feature, your post would be the one.
as for the OP, if she doesn't like it here, don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out. I think you've just lost whatever support that might have once had, you've certainly lost me.
…on a interesting subject that unfortunately turned into unnecessary ranting. Even more disappointing was the support Tatum's diatribe received by Erica and Taylor, whom I've never met.
Oh well,
Sir Cumalot
...me thinks Sir C's post has revealed much egg on face.
How bout Tantrum Taylor?
especially from the "Drama free" guys here who only lurk, and don't participate on the discussion boards themselves, I doubt many of those guys want to shell out four hundred buck for a drama queen who has revealed just little she cares for the hands that feed her.
Oh well, she never was on my "to do" list in the first place, and after this she never will be.
She doesn't deserve business from us lowly men that she soooo despises. She doesn't realize that her greatest achievement in life was to be born with a pussy.
As pointed out by another gent, Tatum posted up the thread and away from the converse under 'RE: it's not good policy' and 'rightly so' (in her words) but no reason why. She speaks directly to me but not sure why. I wouldn't have even seen it had someone not pm'd me. She says she'll respond 'directly and in detail' to my post in the AM but I've yet to see anything. Who knows…
She certainly dislikes me but on the bright side, she LOVES Erica and Taylor. Here it is:
"I love me some Taylor and Erica! Girls, we need to meet. To have a choice..AND STAND UP FOR THAT VOICE is not something I run into often..unfortunately. too many are scared of the potential repercussions of such behavior. I adore any person who is willing to call a spade a spade. I really don't care about the numerous hate mails I'm receiving. It only weeds out the men from the immature, stuck in 17 year old mentality boys I have no desire to spend an hour with..even for 400 dollars.
And to the guy who said I/we are worthless since we sell out bodies to make our income, that we"obviously have no regard for ourselves and take the easy road for money" ...bitch..this ain't no easy road!!! It is an option for women who enjoy sex and are not bound by a marriage, as you are. We aren't marrying for money..no..we prefer freedom over bondage and since this country has yet to provide equality for all mankind we will use our gift of beauty and skill to pay our bills. Lucky you..that you have women like us..lord, what else would you do with the insatiable sex drive that you have?
Lastly, this began over my simply stating my frustration over a NCNS client. And that statement has been shit upon among many guys who like to think of themselves as men. I have received so much hateful immature emails simply because I shared my frustration. Even many of the responses to this thread have been not only off point but mute in worthy of response.
You have seen me and want to tell tales of your gentlemanly behavior? Hilarious, for your response has shown everyone reading what an asshole you are. If, and why don't I respond like shawnie does to yoy?? Is that a real question?? Let me break it down four you..because I'm NOT Shawnee, nothing at all like her in any way or form. That would be like me asking you why aren't you like my favorite men who respect my opinion and are not threatened by my intelligence. Geesh. That had to be the most ignorant question I've heard in years. And yes, I do believe there are dumb questions. Sorry, I never taught 4th grade.
Rightly so, I am posting this to the wrong email response. I read your retort but thought I would respond in the am to your antics for I didn't want to waste my time tonight yet it seems I have regardless. Hope you read it. If not I will repost an answer to your response in the am...in depth at that. Just don't have the time..or patience tonight.
Peace "
Okey doke,
Sir
Wow. Scratch one angry lady from my ATL list
You are the perfect example of why I am not a member of this community. It attracts boys like you that are disrespectful, condescending and come with an assumption that women are inferior to you.
Your responses speak so loudly into your character. Thus far you have been the only boy that has insulted the opinions shared this far. Anger issues? I presume so. Arrogant attitude that attempts to compensate for your low self esteem or jealousy of women? Most likely.
YOU are the one who brought up the money in your post, not the provider who attempted to explain to you that it does cost us money. Buying some outfit you request, maintaining 100 dollar manicures/pedicures monthly, hotel rooms we may never use because a douche NSNC, dude who "forgets" to get cash out of atm, all the details that go into a well manicured woman. Waxing, clothing, shoes, lingerie, photos..and on it goes.
Lastly mister cumalot..the only reason you can badly claim such a name is because of women like us who provide you the ability to live up to that name. I'm guessing your wife decided years ago she was done stroking that fragile ego of yours, hence why you are on TER. You pay us to meet the needs you can't get met on your own. We get paid for a service that escapes you because we can get our needs meet for free any time we desire and with a line in place.
I'm pretty confident no woman has taken you up on your pathetic offer of "splitting the bill so we can review you" comment. It seems the elementary factor that eludes you is that women don't have to do such things. We can get laid any time, any day..for free. And for you to think we should only have a voice if we pay for half is absolutely pathetic!
You should have more respect for the mouth that feeds your insatiable hunger.
Just because we provide a service to your hunger, does not mean we are indebted to you, owe you or deserve to be spoken to in such disrespectful manner.
Not all men on TER (most men are not) condescending and delusional as you, however this site attracts men such as yourself who mostly jack off to the details of a date and never set a real date up because you can't afford it or you get off on degenerating women..or both.
That is my most concerning issue with TER. THEY DEMAND intimate details of a date. Why not have a list of general questions answered without the requirement of okay be okay details? That only satisfies jerk offs (literally) who see a woman as a sex object and forgets she is a living, breathing, functional woman doing the best she can to provide for her family..just like each and every man does.
It is obviously a site created by a man, for a man.
Lastly (for real) I will tell you this. I have met many men..MEN..who do not visit this site because of the elaborate details required. It too, makes them sick to their stomach.
The need to defend your cost in a thread about the unfairness of ladies not being able to comment on reviews is a prime example of why ladies being able to comment on gents reviews would be disasterous. And on these boards u have every right to do so and I'll defend it.
That said, in reference to ur post I'll will update my offer from above post with the offer of costs 50/50 (hotel, etc...itemized list please).
So again I ask, ladies...any takers?
Sir Cumalot
This is your original response to my post simply stating my frustration with a NSNC. If you re read my original post I make no reference to my reviews. I am not the one who complains about getting a 7. I have never asked for a review nor have I ever challenged one. An experience is an experience and if I get a 6 or 7 or whatever then that is the way it is.
You are the one who started attacking, not me. You obviously have a low regard for women by your comments below that make reference to us being crazy, think skinners and then say "what a cluster-fuck it would be if we had a voice. WOW!!! And then you have men supporting that statement and say I am the "drama queen."
There is not one derogatory statement towards men in my original post yet your response is a full on attack of us. I am missing something here.
Lastly, you wrap up your statement with reference to money going only one way. How does any of your comments apply to my frustration expressed over obvious inequalities on TER.
Does anyone not see who started throwing stones?? Absolutely fascinating to me how this has gotten so out of control.
A man hater? Absolutely not; one who stands for equality, absolutely so!
Very sad indeed.
I had a date last night, he did not know of this discussion and I did not make reference to it. I asked him if he was a member of TER or if he found me on eros. He said he was not a member of TER that he found the site distasteful and the reviews revolting. I could not help but laugh. How ironic he stumbled into my life during the moment of this crazy exchange that has developed. He said, on his own accord, with no leading from me that he did not understand why the reviews were so graphic. I told him they have to be or TER will not post the review. He said, all I want to know if if she was nice, showed up on time etc..he said "why would anyone want to read the intimate details of anothers date?"
My point in that there are good men out there and thankfully I attract them.
I am done with this conversation. I have a life to live.
Thank you to you and the men who support you for showing us your true value...or lack thereof...of women.
The providers here aren't being critiqued on their landscaping, hairstyling, or executive skills. This is a world where sex, looks, and money collide. All that would do is start stupid wars over why a chick who thinks she's a 10 got a 9 and a guy that thinks he's suave can't believe he's been called a cheap slob.
As flawed as the system may be, the point of the sight is for guys to check ladies out, the sharing of ideas and info,choosing potential dates, etc. Gambler's suggestion is a good one as well as a petition signed by(electronically of course) as many TER providers and hobbyist members as you can get to lower the requirement to a reasonable level for access to 'provider's only' board and then present to TER admin. Their are a few 3rd party blacklist/warning sites out there for gals as well.
Ladies, the hard truth is that the money only goes in one direction. That said, I'd be more than happy to offset the cost with any lady here if as long as both of us have the option of reviewing each other.
Any takers?
Sir Cumalot
So does this mean that we have heard the last from you?
If so, don't let the door hit you...........Bye
My description of a certain segment of the people that peruse this board INCLUDED BOTH THE MEN AND THE WOMEN. I also was not putting you in that category, I had no reason to...at the time.
You keep saying that my post had nothing to do with your subject and I don't know why. I directly addressed your thoughts on providers being able to comment on reviews AND the need to help you guys get easier access to provider only boards SO YOU COULD SHARE INFO ON NCNS AND BLACKLISTING!
'The money going one way' is in response to what you feel is unfare about TER and why TER does it this way. Like I said (which you obviously didn't read), I didn't make the rules, TER did. I never called you a drama queen or said you shouldn't have a voice. Did you even read my posts?
The person who threw the first stone was you and it was viscous, untrue, and uncalled for. And piling on!?! Erica and Taylor were right there with you. You disrespected Shawnie and didn't even spell her name right. I'm glad your date went well. If that gentlemen chooses not to read reviews then that is his right. Keep in mind that either way and at the end of the day, he's still paying to have sex with you. If you hate the review process, don't like the graphic details and such, then maybe you should have your reviews and profile taken down in protest? No? I didn't think so.
You're self-centered and think you're above the 'dirty men' on this site and above the system but really, and I hate to tell you this, but you take money for sex because you can't or won't make the money another way. That's not a bad thing either...unless someone starts acting the way you have. Real classy.
You keep referencing the men here as 'boys' yet you're not mature enough to admit you were wrong or apologize for vicious and untrue rants because you didn't like (for reasons no one can figure out) the way the converse went. That's what little girls do when they don't get their way. That's disappointing and looks ridiculous from such an 'intelligent lady ready who is going to share her voice and not be oppressed by us lowly men folk.
Glad you're done with this converse as I doubt it's helped your cause. After all of this, I now could care less about your original thoughts which I supported the idea of in the beginning. Now I just don't care. If the back and forth of this thread is any indication of what hearing that 'voice' would be like, then count me out.
Quoting you above, 'you have a life to lead'...indeed.
Sir Cumalot
Really not sure why you'd try to sling mine or Erica's name in a pile if mud. The only posts I put up were in reference to the 'inequality' statement she made about Ter. I haven't thrown stones, spoke viciously, or lied about anything. Nor have I condoned or argued anyone else's mud slinging on this thread. I just simply stated facts.
…personal rant on me? You wrote this, I didn't. Not slinging mud just stating, as you say…the truth. Read from the bottom up and see what you were agreeing to.
"I totally agree mama
Some douche keeps emailing me nasty comments about my post. I only posted to this thread because of unfair practices. Nothing to do with clients, just solely the treatment of providers on board. I love providing and adore 99% of my clients but I wish some folks would remember the douche that started this "Man for Man" board and where he's at right now... Most of the men, aren't f*&ktards. But SOME of the men on this board make me want to vomit."
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Posted By: TatumTaylor
Sir cumalot
You are the perfect example of why I am not a member of this community. It attracts boys like you that are disrespectful, condescending and come with an assumption that women are inferior to you.
Your responses speak so loudly into your character. Thus far you have been the only boy that has insulted the opinions shared this far. Anger issues? I presume so. Arrogant attitude that attempts to compensate for your low self esteem or jealousy of women? Most likely.
YOU are the one who brought up the money in your post, not the provider who attempted to explain to you that it does cost us money. Buying some outfit you request, maintaining 100 dollar manicures/pedicures monthly, hotel rooms we may never use because a douche NSNC, dude who "forgets" to get cash out of atm, all the details that go into a well manicured woman. Waxing, clothing, shoes, lingerie, photos..and on it goes.
Lastly mister cumalot..the only reason you can badly claim such a name is because of women like us who provide you the ability to live up to that name. I'm guessing your wife decided years ago she was done stroking that fragile ego of yours, hence why you are on TER. You pay us to meet the needs you can't get met on your own. We get paid for a service that escapes you because we can get our needs meet for free any time we desire and with a line in place.
I'm pretty confident no woman has taken you up on your pathetic offer of "splitting the bill so we can review you" comment. It seems the elementary factor that eludes you is that women don't have to do such things. We can get laid any time, any day..for free. And for you to think we should only have a voice if we pay for half is absolutely pathetic!
You should have more respect for the mouth that feeds your insatiable hunger.
Just because we provide a service to your hunger, does not mean we are indebted to you, owe you or deserve to be spoken to in such disrespectful manner.
Not all men on TER (most men are not) condescending and delusional as you, however this site attracts men such as yourself who mostly jack off to the details of a date and never set a real date up because you can't afford it or you get off on degenerating women..or both.
That is my most concerning issue with TER. THEY DEMAND intimate details of a date. Why not have a list of general questions answered without the requirement of okay be okay details? That only satisfies jerk offs (literally) who see a woman as a sex object and forgets she is a living, breathing, functional woman doing the best she can to provide for her family..just like each and every man does.
It is obviously a site created by a man, for a man.
Lastly (for real) I will tell you this. I have met many men..MEN..who do not visit this site because of the elaborate details required. It too, makes them sick to their stomach.
You are manipulating the posts - editing them/combining them and doing weird stuff to change the meaning and intention to justify your constant bashing. It's not surprising but it does amaze me. You're response to my one point to you was ridiculous and *I* left you alone because I have known your MO and your crap and have no hope of you being anything other than what you are. I was almost delighted that someone took you to task but I didn't write that post. I didn't come on here and rip anyone. Even this "rip", or however you want to categorize it, is simply me responding to your crap as Im'm at the end of my patience. I'm so thankful for the amazing men I've met on this job and for the opportunity to provide to positive men in this for FUN and not anything else.
I don't for a minute think you're ignorant to the extent you seem to be, you're just an attention whore. You are the epitome of a whole lot of stuff you claim to hate. I certainly hope you bore of this soon as you are only making shit up at this point. I, personally, won't be back to see anything you have to post. IN fact, I'll block you as soon has I hit "post message" in order to never have to see your rants or "insights" again.
"I totally agree mama
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Posted By: TatumTaylor
Sir cumalot
You are the perfect example of why I am not a member of this community. It attracts boys like you that are disrespectful, condescending and come with an assumption that women are inferior to you.
Your responses speak so loudly into your character. Thus far you have been the only boy that has insulted the opinions shared this far. Anger issues? I presume so. Arrogant attitude that attempts to compensate for your low self esteem or jealousy of women? Most likely.
YOU are the one who brought up the money in your post, not the provider who attempted to explain to you that it does cost us money. Buying some outfit you request, maintaining 100 dollar manicures/pedicures monthly, hotel rooms we may never use because a douche NSNC, dude who "forgets" to get cash out of atm, all the details that go into a well manicured woman. Waxing, clothing, shoes, lingerie, photos..and on it goes.
Lastly mister cumalot..the only reason you can badly claim such a name is because of women like us who provide you the ability to live up to that name. I'm guessing your wife decided years ago she was done stroking that fragile ego of yours, hence why you are on TER. You pay us to meet the needs you can't get met on your own. We get paid for a service that escapes you because we can get our needs meet for free any time we desire and with a line in place.
I'm pretty confident no woman has taken you up on your pathetic offer of "splitting the bill so we can review you" comment. It seems the elementary factor that eludes you is that women don't have to do such things. We can get laid any time, any day..for free. And for you to think we should only have a voice if we pay for half is absolutely pathetic!
You should have more respect for the mouth that feeds your insatiable hunger.
Just because we provide a service to your hunger, does not mean we are indebted to you, owe you or deserve to be spoken to in such disrespectful manner.
Not all men on TER (most men are not) condescending and delusional as you, however this site attracts men such as yourself who mostly jack off to the details of a date and never set a real date up because you can't afford it or you get off on degenerating women..or both.
That is my most concerning issue with TER. THEY DEMAND intimate details of a date. Why not have a list of general questions answered without the requirement of okay be okay details? That only satisfies jerk offs (literally) who see a woman as a sex object and forgets she is a living, breathing, functional woman doing the best she can to provide for her family..just like each and every man does.
It is obviously a site created by a man, for a man.
Lastly (for real) I will tell you this. I have met many men..MEN..who do not visit this site because of the elaborate details required. It too, makes them sick to their stomach.
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The posts I used were the exact posts, in the same order, that you, Taylor, Tatum posted.
Your delighted someone took me to task?!? Who would that be, exactly? Tatum made ranting, false allegations. All I did was tell exactly my experience with her. If you think setting something straight and defending yourself is manipulation, then you might want to take a look at your biased reaction to her ridiculous ravings.
Tatum couldn't handle the truth, posted her response in a spot where no one could find it and then when she finally addressed it as she claimed she would, it was lame and a cop out.
If your gonna 'take me to task', you better have your facts straight. The bottom line is that your support of her ridiculous rants make you look bad and you know it. You're just diggin' the whole deeper though like I said before, I'll defend your right to do it here.
Attention whore? That's pretty funny considering the almount of pm's I got welcoming me back to the board because I hadn't posted in so long on this board. Ladies who I believe u know well by now were the most welcoming.
Please block me. Won't matter since I had no idea who you were before this thread.
I'm sure it will b my loss....uh, ya.
Sir Cumalot
MF'r! Really?! You're joking, right???
I posted this...
"I totally agree mama Some douche keeps emailing me nasty comments about my post. I only posted to this thread because of unfair practices. Nothing to do with clients, just solely the treatment of providers on board."
.. In response to Erica's post. Don't go combining posts to prove your null point that I'm causing drama. I've never posted complaints on this board about clients, be it cancellations or reviews. I was only making a point about ter being more hobbiest friendly and letting a gal know that there are other boards to check and place that info. I've never said a negative word to you! Keep being a psycho douche dude. This in a nutshell perfectly explains the comment I made that 'TER is a man's world
Reading this thread, I did not realize how limited Companions are - by comparison. I simply thought that those Provider only areas were built to keep Clients out so y'all can keep your own set of notes on us... "T is awesome, Q might try shorting your fee, J runs 30 mins late so pad your schedule", etc.
I suppose you have 2 choices: Ask TER to allow such a resource as a DNS/ blacklist, or create your own site for such items but still refer to us by TER handles.
There are many service oriented businesses and situations where No Shows and Last Minute Cancellations can get you dismissed from that business... particularly health care related (medical, outpatient surgery, chiropractic, dental), as well as lawyers, and even some auto repair businesses. I know one local hospital with a physician board where drug seekers are exposed on a private list seen by member physicians' offices... but the drug seeker is told "Dr X can see you on (date 6 or more weeks from now)." That way the drug seeker keeps looking for his next fix.
Would not surprise me if some of you enterprising ladies came up with something similar... even if TER hasn't/ doesn't.
my 2 cents, ga_kosh
Oh there are places to post ncns, ppl that should be blacklisted. My point was that TER is simply not friendly in that regard. Most hobbiests on this board don't realize that it is so one sided. TER is so well known across the country, but least friendly provider board. Taylor please feel free to call me now or anytime. There are several places to screen for these types of unfavorable clients.
Taylor is spot on and there are also many boards that providers do have input on reviews as well as everything else. They do well and are more often more harmonious than much of the banter you often times see here. Still liable for the occasional train wreck, just not as much. TER was simply established earlier and therefore has more of a foothold. Good and bad to TER as with everything in life. But it also boasts a much more "old guard" attitude overall from the vocal minority of board hounds. The assumption that the hobby would fall into hell in a hand basket if we were to have input is just out dated IMO.
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Spot on? Scratch yet another.
-- Modified on 11/2/2013 11:00:15 PM
I was referring to TaylorLEIGHXXX's post - the one directly above mine in response to GA_Kosh WITH THE SAME SUBJECT LINE... Can you see how my post (that you quoted) is in relation THAT and not the original post?
But your input is appreciated - You've been scratched off my list as well
-- Modified on 11/4/2013 2:10:15 AM
If you were using "tree mode" it would be obvious that you were actually responding to him and not her. It happens all the time when people use flat mode, it makes some of the threads quite confusing.
well in that case we should all forget the confusion and go get a drink and have some fucking fun!
We are ALL equal in that ALL like to to fuck! LOL!!
Hugs and kisses
TL
a casual observer might get the idea that the people here don't like each other, and I hate these "us against them threads" unless of course we are talking about our bodies being against each other. lol
We can all agree on that
Mmmm yea bodies to bodies is what I am thinking too! Damn us whores all do think alike! lmao!!
Hope everyone is getting the nookie! lol
Hugs and kisses
TL
I'm devastated. Not sure I'll ever recover. Sigh.
But your input is appreciated - You've been scratched off my list as well
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