I tend to be a realist on this subject.  I don't think many providers grow up hoping to have sex with strange men for money and few of us guys dream of growing old needing to pay for it.

I've seen the retirement posts and the statements about "laying low for a while" but let's face it the women are not "providers" they do this to make a living and guys this isn't a hobby it's an addiction.

Look at the economics of the business, even if a women just did one appointment a day four days a week for $200.00 each and your expenses are 50% you're still clearing $400.00 cash per week.  That's equivalent to making about $12.50 an hour at a 40 hour grind job (which isn't that easy to find or much fun).  You can work for yourself making in eight hours what it would take the average Jill to make in forty.  I know this doesn't take into account the inherent dangers of physical abuse and disease but it is the reason we see so many retirement announcements and then two months later "hey I'm back".

There's no shame in the economics of this or any business, we all aspire to higher goals whatever they may be but we also need shelter, food and clothing to survive and we "gotta do what we gotta do".

Men may attempt to control our urges but frankly the only control we have is the amount of cash available and the number of times we're able to get off in any time period.  We do this because we're either too old, fat, ugly, busy or attached to do it any other way.

My point is we may be able to curtail things for a certain amount of time but in the end we'll all be back at it regardless of marginally greater risks.

We can't help ourselves and that's part of the pain and part of the pleasure.

Good post,

Your head sure is screwed on straight. Very eloquent and real!

And for your thoughts.  But there  are some exceptions to your statements. Some women are providers. They enjoy sex, they enjoy men and they like what they do. If they are a few of the blessed one in the business then I am sure they realize their good fortune.
Then.... there are those who are just professionals. It is what they consider a true career and they act accordingly. With the same  level and degree of professionalism they would apply to any career they choose.
I am in no way suggesting your thoughts and impressions  aren't valid I just needed to suggest other situations. I realize the  stereo type of  women in the business and it may apply to the majority of the women representing  Providers, Escorts etc.... BUT there are some individuals  who are not within that stereo- type. Thanks for entertaining my thoughts

I agree with AtlHottie.  Most that fall in the category she describes (and this is just my observation) are older ladies and when you're with them it's probably the most exhilarting experience you'll ever have.  Terri falls into that category for me.  I've only seen her once only because I could never seem to get my schedule in gear or for that matter enough nerve to see her again.  I think I'm going to fix that.

Makes sense to me........  Kinda makes ya think.

Mj

I agree. Because of this hobby I’ve been able to fornicate with so many beautiful women. But as has already been said, its not ALWAYS about the $$$ for them. I have met some providers who really like to fornicate. I am grateful for that quality in a woman, especially in my favorite: chocolate candies’ delightful dandies. O, goodgeye, thank you for starting this and turning my mind to this subject. Better than oysters! You would not believe what I am typing this message with!

Very well said. It appears that you, as I have, have been trying to understand the allure of this "hobby". I think "addiction" is absolutely accurate. It may start for other reasons, but if your first few experiences are good, it really becomes a need that like other addictions is only limited by time and money as you said. I would safety to your list of reasons for men, even though it is probably always accompanied by one of the ones you stated. I mean safety healthwise as most providers are very cautious with STD's, safety from emotional attachment and the "fatal attractions" that are all over out there in the world of clubs and pick ups and affairs (BTDT no fun at all) and safely anonymous (for the most part).

Since most of the ladies in my family are in the business in one way or the other.. and we are all enjoying it like we always have .. I always wanted to do this but when i was 15 i just couldnt see myself standing on a street corner.. thank you so much bill gates for all you have done for the provider business lol..
take that statement back mister i have always loved to have sex with strangers.. what a rush.. and besides who dont wanna get as many nuts in theirlife as they possibly can..
gotta love the usa lol.. if only they would make us legal now that would be a dream come true

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I don't think many providers grow up hoping to have sex with strange men for money and few of us guys dream of growing old needing to pay for it.


Ha ha well this statement does not exactly fit my family. We were raised to believe that sex was an activity like running. Play with whomever whenever. But then we are not the average family are we......

The numercal value of the economy is actually moving upward...
Whereas the reality of the economy has not changed.... there are alot of people trying to get those positions for 12+ an hour.. I have held and can still hold a corporate position.... where is the fun in that... no matter where you work there is danger.. life is short so we might as well have fun while we can and enjoy the best addiction there is

Some people are taught sex, either as bad thing or sin when they grow up. They carry this along rest of their lives then, they have sex and experience the wonderful feeling. Now they are in dilemma, why is it bad, if it feels so good, some rebel and do wierd things. Others accept it and realize there is nothing wrong with sex and enjoyment and have wonderful expereinces through out their life.

I fall in the second group that like to have sexual pleasure as much as I can and see few select providers in the area I connect with to have great time for both of us.

OK, these days, one can bring everything to the Lowest Common Denominator known money and try to justify anything and everything. Would I do anything and everything for money, the answer is an emphatic NO, so, I think, providers don't either. OK there may be some, that may and you can tell that from the reviews and a whole lot of things.

I have been lucky to find a couple ATFs in Atlanta whom I have been seeing for over a year now and may add a third one to my list. I think I am having fun and that is all matters.

Emotion, an aspect no one is able to describe completely, many things to manay people. Also, one of those unsatisfied wants in human life. May be it is because emotion cannot be described and everchanging so it will never be satisfied. So, I don't pay attention to it. Don't confuse emotion with compassion, understanding, caring and friendship, etc.

Ok enough of my rambling!

I ain't old and I don't mind paying for it. Really, you are paying for it when you are dating. Here is that lowest common denominator $ thing again:

Flowers= $15 to $20
Dinner for 2=$100
After Dinner Entertainmentment = ~$100

Total = 215 to 220

Chances of getting any on 1st date= highle unlikely

Two to three more dates before getting any = 400 to 500

Other niceties = 100 to 150

Total Out of Pocket = 700 to 800

Head Games= Price Less

So, all said, you are always paying, you just don't realize it!

You can't be serious.  In the above equation, where do you factor in the chance to meet a life-long partner who will stand by you always vs. a quick thrill?

"I ain't old and I don't mind paying for it."

The young and handsome pay too ya know !! 8=)
tyvm, P.T.

Be realistic dude.  That equation never works because after the first couple of dates. You're forgetting that you get more than once or twice in a  relationship.  As far as the original post it appears that he is the only one being realistic.

Most of the women in this profession do not enjoy it and are not proud of it.  Why you ask? Because our society deems this line  of work as substandard.  Why in the worl would someone risk the chance of getting diseased, robbed, and/or killed for 200.00 bucks.  Lets
just keep treating them respectful and attempt to keep them safe (be it from LE and Wackos).  

Happy Holidays

My one post a year. Your (I've spent far too much on this addiction) buddy

Smirk

It could happen, if one is open, non-judgemental and view them less than equal!

I said could not will

Most men including myself who visit providers are usually married, or have a girl friend. We chose this method because it's less likely our Mate will find out. When you have an affair someone always end up getting hurt. It's easier to call up a girl of your choice and pay her some dough and you never have to call her back the next morning to tell her it was good.

There are some men who visit providers becaused they are fat and ugly as you stated. I am in my 20's, I am not fat,been told by the ladies that I am attractive. The reason why I do this is because of the varieties. I can pay three or four beautiful women to sleep with me. I couldn't have pull that off any other way unless I am a porn star or I am hugh hefner. Just my 2 cents.

You are right on target. The most espense A man can have is a woman. The average dude spend a lot more money wining and dining his girlfriend that what it cost to go with a provider. We are all paying for sex. The movies and the dinners are the tradional payment methods, paying a provider up front is considered the unethical way. Paying for sex is very natural, we do it everyday in our lives. The world oldest profession will be here a million years from now. Dont blame these ladies for doing something their ancestors did 2000 years ago.

".....Most of the women in this profession do not enjoy it and are not proud of it.  Why you ask? Because our society deems this line  of work as substandard.  Why in the world would someone risk the chance of getting diseased, robbed, and/or killed for 200.00 bucks. ......"  

Smirk I missed your website & the length of time you have been a provider. Are you speaking for yourself or other women such as yourself that are providers????? -OR- is that just your perception?
In regards to getting diseased... education is a powerful thing to employ in any situation!  In regard to robbed and/or killed again I would suggest the thought of education on the facts.

Now about that whole 200.00 bucks- How many hours would an individual actually have to work to net $6,000.00 a week? In all reality, a very careful, well informed and articulate female can more than likely invest about 25 to 30 hours with weekends off and net just that.

Now speaking from experience and first hand knowledge: Many successful and intelligent women have used the profession as a stepping stone to positions and assets that would have never been available to them.

Before you start appealing to everyone to take care of me & have compassion for me please realize the empowerment of women through this business. It may not be the most desired avenue to a goal but it can easily be an effective one. Just a few additional thoughts to ponder.

$6,000.00 ??????



I wanna know where she/they work... I want a job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You guys are too funny.
8=)tyvm,P.T.

My math might be bad but if the woman gets $300 an hour and has 4 appointments a day that would make $1200 a day. If she works 5 days a week that is $6,000. Last time I counted my calendar had  52 weeks. Makes for one hell of a yearly salary. I hate to point out the obvious but the post has some merit. Even with some overhead still one nice paycheck.

I know you must be speaking of me(grin)

Long time no hear?? Where you been?  Jimmy

Well when my daughter gets to be 30 if she wants to do what i do then more power to her.. after she graduates college.. and has a few failed marriages.. and just wants to have fun..
but in the meantime I have high hopes for her .maybe if she does decide to play for her living.. it will be legal by then lol..

Deanna, Cleaning Lady,Monette,Fancy......  have posted in the past that: mothers,brothers,cousins,etc.   Are all involved in their "business"  Do you really have to ask a questioned like  that based on her previously stated position?

Absolutely !!! Are you Psychic too ?
tyvm, P.T.

There is not a girl doing that weekly. Once in awhile you could be right BUT, that is not the norm.
tyvm, P.T.



I wanna hear from all the ladies that are making 6 Grand a week . Speak up use an alias if ya want.

lol now that is funny but you are right it runs in our family. Although I have no daughter but if i did and that is what she wanted then more power to her. If my boys wanted to i would support them as well. After all its all in fun. Life is short gotta have as much fun as we can.


Hugs and Kisses Monette

well deanna is the cleaninglady.. until.. well i have something going on under wraps right now but .. im still the same person.. and how sad you forgot to mention mother linda..
hey theres no business like this business and when you love to dtbbbjtcnqns as much as we do and do all the other languages in the world.. then .. well why not ..
anyway .. just goes to show you guys do read what i write..
nuff said again..
deanna

We also know how you think about those subjects. Thats why I said you gotta ask. I like watching for your posts. Thaks for what you do.