I'm an ass?! This is coming from the guy that BEGGED me to give him her address so that he could GO TO HER HOUSE and try and get his money back! You said, Dude, give me her address, I promise you won't get involved in any way!
I'm an ass and you wanted to go hunt her down like a stalker?! Think about that one there for a moment!
Ok, first let me say that I am postng this here per TER. I have attempted to work things out with Carry but all I get is put off, lies and no replies.
Ok first off I admit I am an idiot. I let little Willy run the show and I made bad choices.
I had contacted Carry after reading the review by ATL Sailor. I had been exchanging phone calls and text messages for a day and a half. She had sent me some very sexy photos, one full nude, and to be honest she is hot.
So we had arranged to meet at a hotel. She called and told me she was on her way so I drove to the hotel and text her that I would be waiting outside. An hour and forty-five minutes passed with several calls and text saying she was on her way. She finally showed up and it appears to be the same gal as in the photos. Thin, Asian-American, great legs yada yada. So we meet in the parking lot and she says she is going in to check in. She comes back out and says the room is more than she had expected and could I help with the room. I should have left here. I didn’t. I’m an idiot.
So I give her $90 for my half of the room and she says she doesn’t have her half. I should have left here. I didn’t. I’m an idiot. So I give her the envelope and watch her walk into the hotel. She comes back out and says she is going up and she will come get me in a minute that she wants to change and look special for me. I am parked next to her car so I am figuring it is fairly cool.
She comes back out and has changed and looks great. Very pretty, sexy. She hands me a room key and says she wants me to go up to the room and she will be right there. I should have left here. I didn’t. I’m an idiot.
So I go to the room and wait about 3 minutes and no show. I walk to the end of the hotel hallway and look out the window and she is going through stuff in her car. I go back to the room and wait a couple more minutes. I go back out to the hallway and look and her car is gone. Now at this point I am not only pissed but also somewhat apprehensive about getting arrested, beat-up or whatever else bad happens in these situations. So I call her and no answer. I text and she replies back that I am to wait there. I split immediately. It all felt totally wacked at this point. So I pull into the gas station next door and text her again. I ask her if this is a rip off and what is going on. She tells me to wait that she will be back. No way.
So she quits answering my texts and in frustration I head home.
A couple hours later, I try to text her again. She answers and is all apologetic. Says she got a call from her family and had to bolt. She states that she and her family are having a really hard time and that she is really sorry. She wants to know if I can come back to hotel or if she can come to me. It is after midnite and no way am I going back. I tell her she can come to me. She says the situation is too long to text so she will call. I never hear back.
This morning I text and tell her I have about a dozen guys that want to know what has happened. I tell her she needs to get this worked out fast. She texts me back and says she will call shortly. That was at 9:08am. I have yet to hear from her at 10:00am.
I just text her and told her I was posting this and she says I can post what I want that she is legit. I asked her why she had my money but had failed to provide a session. No reply. I have tried to be fair, probably to a fault, because I do believe she is having problems. She is very flakey and I am not the only guy who has experienced this. I hope no one else gets hurt by her.
If anything changes I will update.
Just for grins I called her 678 number-it went to voice mail-"Mail Box Is Full" message came on-I then called the 213 number and it went to voice mail instantly-left a message-interesting to see if I hear from her.
You know I have been doing this for over 27 years here in Atlanta. I guess I was bound to have a bad thing happen eventually. Over-all, my experiences have been nothing but class ladies. Maybe she and I can work it out. I have left that door open.
I feel sorry for anyone who has to stoop to these types of things to survive. Being a recovering crack addict, I know what it is like to do things that your spirit really doesn't agree with. I just hope she gets whatever she needs.
Willy
You may view this as none of my business but I can't help but feel the need to say wtf are you thinking? You left open the door to work it out, weak attempts to offer her a defense for her robbery of you. Are you out of your mind? Erase this girl from you brain, never speak to her again, and by the way, never act like this again with any provider. I don't want to read about some "john" getting bashed on the head while investigators are looking for public's help in finding leads.
And one other thing.... the probability of some new girl showing up on BP and the first and only review she has is a 10/10 is so unlikely that you ought to have red flags going up all over the place.
Why is that unlikely? I write fair and honest reviews about every person I see. Why should I not give her a 10 if she has a 10 body and the sex was way better than a 10? Should I limit her b/c she has no reviews?
Oh no, by all means, you write the review however you see fit.
My point is that as a prospective client, when I see only one review and it's a 10/10 for a brand new BP girl, that is a red flag that should be approached with caution because it is highly unusual for that to be valid.
Thanks for TOFTT! After reading her review and seeing her pictures I was lighting up her phone, but she never responded to my calls or text. I guess that was a blessing! LOL
I believe the events you described are sufficient to meet the criteria for posting a review since you actually did meet face to face and donations were exchanged.
This maybe one of the most saddest, horrible stories I've heard while in the hobby. Sorry this happen to you and thanks for sharing with us. The guy that reviewed Carry in my opinion should reimbursement you ATLsailor
She gets the envelope then drives off. I am surprised she answered your text, after someone steals from you... usually you never hear from them again.
The guy that reviewed Carry in my opinion should reimbursement you ATLsailor
What the heck does this sentence mean??
Then a respected member in the community claims to have gotten Ripped-off/Robbed. If i had endorsed a provider with a 10/10 review only to read the board to find out she's stole a reviewers cash, yes i would reimburse him.
Just when i think I've seen it all, the gent who claims he was ripped off/robbed has now engaged in a 2 hour lunch with the alleged con artist. Thought something like this only happens in the movies fascinating to see how it turns out.
I almost committed the same mistake, and had I not been rear ended on my way to her "incall", I would've probably met the same fate. However, I do have a slightly different perspective from talking to her A LOT on the phone as well as texting with her. She relayed to me that she was spooked big time that someone had written a review that went on and on about her house and that she received several calls after that from guys warning her about seeing clients at her house. From what I can gather, it was her parents house and they were on vacation this week and she says she's never heard of TER.
Certainly doesn't explain her behavior with Willy; but I think she is just a flaky airhead rather than your typical BP rip off artist.
Anyway, she has been texting and calling me this morning to reschedule and I think I'll let the big head do the thinking this time....
P.S. For future reference, it really isn't cool to elaborate as extensively about a Provider's incall as the reviewer did with Carry this time - ruined the potential experience for the rest of us!
It's not my fault I was in a massive Italian mansion.
As for the review, we talked about it before I came up there. I told her I write reviews and the more she does, the higher the score. She was excited that I could write one for her and even welcomed it. We even talked about how to score higher points during the session as well.
As for her parents house, she never mentioned that, but, it could be true. I never saw any photos of any parents that could live there while I was there. Trust me, I went into every room of that house.
Normally, all she ever does it outcall, I just happen to catch her on a really great night.
What the f--- you thinking? This is a public forum!! I have NEVER told a newbie to do something for a review.IT"S HER BODY!!! Some of these girls are desperate and here you come and say shit like that, c'mon have some class dude geez.
You gonna see newbie's learn some respect, understand the situation there in.You really think they been dreaming of this?No , in most cases this is a last resort and the truly good ones find enjoyment in it.The very last thing she needs is for ANOTHER man to make promises and take advantage!!
Look please sir , understand these sand gnats,GENTLEMEN( will use Gingers definition for them,cause mine is too close to the truth) THEY GOT NO EXPERIENCE!!!Thats the reason they don't do anything but put down those that do!!
BEFORE YOU SEE ANOTHER NEWBIE ,GET YOUR HEAD ON STRAIGHT!!!Your better than them,DO THE RIGHT THING!!!
It will take a long time to get over the burn of an experience like this.
Lot going on there. Would be interesting if you used the key at the guest desk to double check "your" room check-out particulars and review the check-in time and payment method, maybe asking for a receipt your assistant forgot for your expense account.
One one hand, it sounds like a pure rip-off just for the donation, especially if she'd already booked and paid for the room. On the other hand, if she used your donation to actually fund the room it's very flaky she'd disappear without providing the session.
Sounds like she had to run-off to make a very important payment to somebody.
For sure, it looks like the way she swindled the "room" money -starting out with more expensive than she thought to ending-up she didn't have any room money, was a premeditated con.
..idiot. Live & learn...learn how to walk from the get go when 'spidey senses" tell you.
Sorry for your loss of $ & time.....& tell Little Willy to STFU!
When he starts bringing home the paycheck...he can then make the decisions.
The working girl gave you so many clues and opportunities to "save yourself". At least you have learned from your mistakes, right? For someone who talks so sagely on the TER boards, I'm frankly quite surprised you allowed yourself to get scammed so easily. As you yourself repeated multiple times, you are an idiot in this specific instance.
Ok first off I admit I am an idiot. I let little Willy run the show and I made bad choices.
I had contacted Carry after reading the review by ATL Sailor. I had been exchanging phone calls and text messages for a day and a half. She had sent me some very sexy photos, one full nude, and to be honest she is hot.
So we had arranged to meet at a hotel. She called and told me she was on her way so I drove to the hotel and text her that I would be waiting outside. An hour and forty-five minutes passed with several calls and text saying she was on her way. She finally showed up and it appears to be the same gal as in the photos. Thin, Asian-American, great legs yada yada. So we meet in the parking lot and she says she is going in to check in. She comes back out and says the room is more than she had expected and could I help with the room. I should have left here. I didn’t. I’m an idiot.
So I give her $90 for my half of the room and she says she doesn’t have her half. I should have left here. I didn’t. I’m an idiot. So I give her the envelope and watch her walk into the hotel. She comes back out and says she is going up and she will come get me in a minute that she wants to change and look special for me. I am parked next to her car so I am figuring it is fairly cool.
She comes back out and has changed and looks great. Very pretty, sexy. She hands me a room key and says she wants me to go up to the room and she will be right there. I should have left here. I didn’t. I’m an idiot.
So I go to the room and wait about 3 minutes and no show. I walk to the end of the hotel hallway and look out the window and she is going through stuff in her car. I go back to the room and wait a couple more minutes. I go back out to the hallway and look and her car is gone. Now at this point I am not only pissed but also somewhat apprehensive about getting arrested, beat-up or whatever else bad happens in these situations. So I call her and no answer. I text and she replies back that I am to wait there. I split immediately. It all felt totally wacked at this point. So I pull into the gas station next door and text her again. I ask her if this is a rip off and what is going on. She tells me to wait that she will be back. No way.
So she quits answering my texts and in frustration I head home.
A couple hours later, I try to text her again. She answers and is all apologetic. Says she got a call from her family and had to bolt. She states that she and her family are having a really hard time and that she is really sorry. She wants to know if I can come back to hotel or if she can come to me. It is after midnite and no way am I going back. I tell her she can come to me. She says the situation is too long to text so she will call. I never hear back.
This morning I text and tell her I have about a dozen guys that want to know what has happened. I tell her she needs to get this worked out fast. She texts me back and says she will call shortly. That was at 9:08am. I have yet to hear from her at 10:00am.
I just text her and told her I was posting this and she says I can post what I want that she is legit. I asked her why she had my money but had failed to provide a session. No reply. I have tried to be fair, probably to a fault, because I do believe she is having problems. She is very flakey and I am not the only guy who has experienced this. I hope no one else gets hurt by her.
If anything changes I will update.
to fuck her. The review was by a dude with alot of them
and was hot. Crazy bitch.
The sex was off the charts, total PSE!
Now you got a taste of my world...lmao.I was laughing yesterday at all the"big dogs" going nuts over this girl.
While you might have actually gotten a session anyway ..your excitement put you there, but to trash a girl such as this thats just sad!!
Be a man!! Write a review not a frigging novel on a public discussion board.Geez for all the shilling you do,I would thought you'd have better sense.
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2not, you are such an asswipe!!! Please crawl back under the rock that you slithered out from under!!!!
While you might have actually gotten a session anyway ..your excitement put you there, but to trash a girl such as this thats just sad!!
Be a man!! Write a review not a frigging novel on a public discussion board.Geez for all the shilling you do,I would thought you'd have better sense.But being part of the "lynch mob"I should of expected no less!!
Lmao 1 review in 4 years and that was not a newbie, looks to me your the 1 under a rock!!You gone SO B GOOD and GONE!!
OMG - You really are clueless. Keep tootin your own horn. In ways you have no idea, you may yet do some good here, beyond the comic relief.
If a guy had only one friend his entire life he would be blessed to have you as his friend.
Thanks for getting my back!
Willy
I just came from a 2 hour lunch with Carry. We are supposed to meet in about another hour to finish our biz.
I want to be clear that I do not think any of Carry's short comings are intentional or with malicious intent. I am not going to put her life on display here but suffice it to say that there are issues going on beyond her control that in the big picture are more important than my money.
I don't know what will happen in an hour and if a session does happen I will write a review. She is a very pretty, intelligent and fun lady. That I figured out from lunch.
Once I figue out more I will let the board know.
Yeah I'm sure we will get the play by play. You really got no business seeing a newbie, let me and my "friends" discover them , then once they get old and fat or go to an agency ..then you can see&shill em".
This whole thread should never seen the light of day!! Hope you get your day in the hay,but grow up!!How many times you think the guys like me that routinely see newbies have bad experiences, really.Do we put up threads like this?No way! Most you will ever see is on a mini and that only applies to visiting ladies!!Good god man, I hope you Shill your azz of for this girl after this stunt!!
I want everyone to know WJ is a close personal friend. He is the nicest person you would ever meet and has a heart as big as the moon. Believe me he knows what he is doing. Good luck my friend and I hope it works out.
In how to shill & put down people!!Neither one of you had toftt , now WIlly boi got a taste and he PUBLICLY RUINED a newbie's rep!! Look its alot for a new girl to be bombarded with calls and they dont have someone fielding calls or screening! Naw they have a phone being blown up and they are scared!!
YOU TWO stick to what you know how to do...SHILLING the few girls you see( 1 girl in 4 years geez) and putting down anyone your jealous or I dont know why people like you hate.. but GAWD man neither of you got ANY idea bout newbies.
You shouldn't be chastising anyone for shilling after your shenanigans for the past year.
And what's this "boi" shit. Are you 13 and wearing purple converse all stars?
...befriend you like he does with the BP 'newbies', act like your friend by helping you, and then when you find out what he really is, hold it against you and threaten you with it when you try to get away from him.
That's the kind of thing he calls 'helping the newbie girls out'.
As far as your date goes, take it in stride. something strange like that has happened to all of us, whether we want to admit it or not. He or she that hasn't, continue to cast the stone...
Sir Cumalot
Atta boy! Now if you and Willy would just give 2hoots4 2hot you could become seasoned hobbyists too! And it'd be 2 less hoots he'd have to give himself.
...her parents house now for play?
"I am not going to put her life on display..."
You already did!
I told you to tell "Little Willy" to STFU...
Will this story have a happy ending...
Story @ 6!
I'm sorry but you really are an old fool. Despite ALL the warning signs, you still can't help yourself.
I want to be clear that I do not think any of Carry's short comings are intentional or with malicious intent. I am not going to put her life on display here but suffice it to say that there are issues going on beyond her control that in the big picture are more important than my money.
I don't know what will happen in an hour and if a session does happen I will write a review. She is a very pretty, intelligent and fun lady. That I figured out from lunch.
Once I figue out more I will let the board know.
If by coaching, you mean that b/c I told her exactly what I wanted her to do to me and for me, then, OK, I'll coach any woman if they do the wild, insane PSE actions she did. THANKS!
When you make statement like this one below before a session it’s coercion.
“As for the review, we talked about it before I came up there. I told her I write reviews and the more she does, the higher the score. She was excited that I could write one for her and even welcomed it. We even talked about how to score higher points during the session as well.”
You are an ASS for saying things like that to a provider and a DUMB ASS for admitting that you do say things like that to providers.
Big difference between talking about the existence of reviews with a lady that says she does not know about TER. That is an entirely different topic and seems there are plenty of topics already going on in this thread.
I appreciate reviews, but comments like the following give me pause to reconsider the validity of the review details. "I told her I write reviews and the more she does, the higher the score." True, TER review ratings guidelines do suggest certain activities elevate the total scale possible, or, phrasing it differently, a lack of a certain service item is supposed to reduce the ratings. BUT - the way this was stated borders on coercion.
Stephanie,
Let's review Dictionary.com, shall we?
The act of coercing; use of force or intimidation to obtain compliance.
Now, based on this definition, had I COERCED her, then I would be in handcuffs behind bars, b/c then I would be using my force or intimidation to get her to do as I wished. However, if I told her what I wanted and she liked what I wanted her to do, that's coaching. It's called having a submissive woman in the bedroom in this example.
So, let's get facts straight before we start trying to place posts where we obviously don't know what we are talking about, thanks!
Ok first off I admit I am an idiot. I let little Willy run the show and I made bad choices.
I had contacted Carry after reading the review by ATL Sailor. I had been exchanging phone calls and text messages for a day and a half. She had sent me some very sexy photos, one full nude, and to be honest she is hot.
So we had arranged to meet at a hotel. She called and told me she was on her way so I drove to the hotel and text her that I would be waiting outside. An hour and forty-five minutes passed with several calls and text saying she was on her way. She finally showed up and it appears to be the same gal as in the photos. Thin, Asian-American, great legs yada yada. So we meet in the parking lot and she says she is going in to check in. She comes back out and says the room is more than she had expected and could I help with the room. I should have left here. I didn’t. I’m an idiot.
So I give her $90 for my half of the room and she says she doesn’t have her half. I should have left here. I didn’t. I’m an idiot. So I give her the envelope and watch her walk into the hotel. She comes back out and says she is going up and she will come get me in a minute that she wants to change and look special for me. I am parked next to her car so I am figuring it is fairly cool.
She comes back out and has changed and looks great. Very pretty, sexy. She hands me a room key and says she wants me to go up to the room and she will be right there. I should have left here. I didn’t. I’m an idiot.
So I go to the room and wait about 3 minutes and no show. I walk to the end of the hotel hallway and look out the window and she is going through stuff in her car. I go back to the room and wait a couple more minutes. I go back out to the hallway and look and her car is gone. Now at this point I am not only pissed but also somewhat apprehensive about getting arrested, beat-up or whatever else bad happens in these situations. So I call her and no answer. I text and she replies back that I am to wait there. I split immediately. It all felt totally wacked at this point. So I pull into the gas station next door and text her again. I ask her if this is a rip off and what is going on. She tells me to wait that she will be back. No way.
So she quits answering my texts and in frustration I head home.
A couple hours later, I try to text her again. She answers and is all apologetic. Says she got a call from her family and had to bolt. She states that she and her family are having a really hard time and that she is really sorry. She wants to know if I can come back to hotel or if she can come to me. It is after midnite and no way am I going back. I tell her she can come to me. She says the situation is too long to text so she will call. I never hear back.
This morning I text and tell her I have about a dozen guys that want to know what has happened. I tell her she needs to get this worked out fast. She texts me back and says she will call shortly. That was at 9:08am. I have yet to hear from her at 10:00am.
I just text her and told her I was posting this and she says I can post what I want that she is legit. I asked her why she had my money but had failed to provide a session. No reply. I have tried to be fair, probably to a fault, because I do believe she is having problems. She is very flakey and I am not the only guy who has experienced this. I hope no one else gets hurt by her.
If anything changes I will update.
There is no excuse IMHO that any provider should take your money and pull something like that! You are one hell of a man to go and meet her for lunch. I am hoping everything worked out for the best.
Hugs and kisses
TL
and I am just getting home from spending the majority of the day with Carry.
I am not taking the time to read all of the train wreck appearing posts above before I am writng this. For those of you have have written me PM's and have been sweriously interested, I will shoot you all a pm once I get some sleep. To those who are and always will be a pain in the ass, find out for yourselves.
I will say this for the general knowledge. She has an amazing body, is total pse and if you can deal with her craziness she is worth the trip.
Nite, Nite!! Beddy Bye Time
Willy
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I believe in the purpose of this board. I have been apart of the hobby community for over 27 years and I believe that what keeps us all safer is the sharing of knowledge. I could care less if some people want to hassle or belittle me.
I am very touched though by those of you who have reached out to me publically and privately to offer insights, support and encouragement. There really are some great people in this community. I am proud to be part of the Atlanta Board. I am especially impressed by certain ladies that offered insight and didn't try to score a session to "make-up" for what happened. I love sincere, honest and no bs kinds of people.
Ok butt-wipes take your shots!! LMAO!!!
Have a nice day!
Willy
You used TER VIP to strong arm this lady ,spent "all day" with her(btw I'm sure such a" respected member" paid her the $235 hr fee) and all you do is give her some backhanded compliment!!The 1st reviewer uses TER to get over 50% discount and PSE service.
You said in this thread your a recovering "crack addict",so I gotta guess you never made it to steps 8,9,10,11 or 12.You must be "practicing " the same plan your lady friend(great reputation lol)that "claims" helping girls on meth.
All the "respected members" coming to your defense.Anyone defending your actions or the actions of 1st reviewer...Naw even a 10 year old has got a better moral compass.
If this is how "respected members" on this board act, GAWD I'm honored to be attacked and put down!!
Speaking on that , you and your "respected members" need to look up the definition of:conscience, cause not one of you seems to have one!!
What you did to this girl is SHAMEFUL and anyone that defends such actions IS NO BETTER!!!!
It's funny to see how you have several post directed straight to willy, I wonder if you will ever figure out that he has ignored you and can't see what you write. Why do you think he keeps saying that he loves the ignore feature. Lmao!
You said in this thread your a recovering "crack addict",so I gotta guess you never made it to steps 8,9,10,11 or 12.You must be "practicing " the same plan your lady friend(great reputation lol)that "claims" helping girls on meth.
All the "respected members" coming to your defense.Anyone defending your actions or the actions of 1st reviewer...Naw even a 10 year old has got a better moral compass.
If this is how "respected members" on this board act, GAWD I'm honored to be attacked and put down!!
Speaking on that , you and your "respected members" need to look up the definition of:conscience, cause not one of you seems to have one!!
What you did to this girl is SHAMEFUL and anyone that defends such actions IS NO BETTER!!!!
Looks like my account is accurate and dead on. Willy said he had a PSE experience. Suck it!
When this all went down and I came to you looking for some help all you did was put me down, act all fucking arrogant and then once it is straight you have the balls to pm me and ask if I fucked her in the ass. You are the kind of low life dirt bag we don't need around here.
I'm an ass?! This is coming from the guy that BEGGED me to give him her address so that he could GO TO HER HOUSE and try and get his money back! You said, Dude, give me her address, I promise you won't get involved in any way!
I'm an ass and you wanted to go hunt her down like a stalker?! Think about that one there for a moment!
yes I asked, not begged, for her address but I was not going to stalk her. You have no idea what I was going to attempt. See it is this kind of exagerated bs that makes it impossible for anyone to have any faith in what you write or say. Quite putting words or actions in my mouth.
I'm an ass and you wanted to go hunt her down like a stalker?! Think about that one there for a moment!
I must be pretty good so far if you followed me and had what I got first...so, I think my words must be pretty powerful if I am the one that started TWO complete threads off one ONE review.
You are the poster child for the old adage "It's Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
1. It really is poor form/low class to coerce your Newbies with promises of higher scores if they'll do things they otherwise wouldn't have done, and it appears in your reviews that this technique is your MO since you brag about it in about half your reviews.
2. Your form of coercion is bad enough, but then actually admitting you're a douchebag is just plain felony stupid. You're not too bright are you?
3. The "mansion" you keep referring to wasn't even "Carry's", nor was it her parents.
4. She is not a newbie, she worked for Dynasty Companions for some time.
5. When a bottom feeder finds a Pearl, I guess they just can't help from publicly creaming their jeans... and it's not too pretty though.
6. Willy has more class in his little finger than you've shown here this past week.
7. Take some good advice, and just shut the fuck up and go back to trying to find another Pearl on BP; just try to handle it more like a man next time.
And that's all there is to say about that.....
She's young, dumb, scared and new to the business. She meets you, and you are not her ideal client as far as age and looks go but she needs the money so she still is willing to go through with it. She goes back into the car probably rumaging for lube and condoms and she probably forgot those too b/c she is the first sentence I listed. She chickens out pretty much is what has happened. I would stick with well reviewed professionals.