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TheOnlyBrooklyn2340 reads

Hi guys!  I have a question for the hobbyists on here.  I'm a relatively new provider, and ONLY do incalls, hosting in upscale hotels.  I would say that 75% of the requests I get are for outcalls.  The reasons I get vary, but the most prevalent is that they don't "trust" a provider that won't do outcall.  My question is, is that a sign of LE?  If not, what do you think would be the real reason they have an issue with it?

Thanks in advance guys!

And, BTW, what is up with it taking a week to get my username linked to my reviews!! hahaha, I wish the TER nazis were as awesome as our mods!

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J.R Ewing1777 reads

I can only speak for myself , as other hobbyists opinions might differ.

I rarely do incall because of a bad experience. I arrived for an appointment about 15 minuets early to find out Ive imposed on another clients time.

Lets just say this was very awkward for this lady to rush him out and for me to watch him leave. So to avoid situations like that id rather request outcall.

Now for you to avoid trouble "screen" make sure to ask your potential client for a reference. Make sure you call the provider , ask her is he ok is he LE is he a Classy Gentlemen?

Hopes this answers your question. Also why don't u offer outcall?

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TheOnlyBrooklyn2194 reads

Haha, perhaps you saw my post last weekend? I'll never live down the Classy Gentleman reference, I fear! haha.

I do screen very thoroughly (some might say too much so, but I don't compromise!).  I don't do outcall, I guess, because I'm relatively new and like to control my environment, at least for now.  Perhaps in the future I'll be more comfortable, especially with Established Classy Gentlemen :).  But I always schedule an hour between dates, so as to avoid the unfortunate situation in which you found yourself :(

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GaGambler1724 reads

LE also likes to "control the environment" and outcalls are much riskier than incalls. Of course the reverse is true from a hobbyists perspective, LE will almost hever (please note I said "allmost" never, not never" send a female officer into a uncontrolled environment like a horny guy'ss hotel room or home, so outcalls are much, much safer from the guys POV.

and nobody better EVER call me classy again, or a gentleman. lol

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TheOnlyBrooklyn1921 reads

Gambler, I won't make that mistake ever again sweetie.  I thought we established last weekend that you and bballs would exclusively be referred to only as sarcastic assholes by me from here on out :)  And I say that with the utmost respect, of course.  LOL

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Advisor20081410 reads

In my own case, I am a business traveler.  Typically I live by cabs or coworkers give me rides.  I refuse to drive in Atlanta, congestion, terrible street references ( how many peach tree streets are there really), my exits to atelier are usually tight timing, and honestly the stress just is not needed.  Basically in call ir typically not an option.

I once had a agency handler offer to pick me up and drop me off.  We laughed at how silly that was, even though I was really close to her site, she ended up sending the lady over to me, even though she did not normally offer outcall.

Once, I found an in call in the hotel I was at, that was interesting scheduling that week, booty calls were just way tooooooo easy.

I have found over the years I just don't like in calls.  Too often sites are not as good as my hotel rooms, towels are damp and used, and trash can is suspiciously occupied.  I am not a fool and thinking I am a one and only, but don't need the reminder.  So even in my home location, I typically set up mutual outcalls.

I hope this helps.

By the way, you look great.  Let me know if you ever modify your service offering to include outcalls.  I d not get to Atlanta like I used to, but always like to make new friends

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TheOnlyBrooklyn1869 reads

Posted By: Advisor2008
Too often sites are not as good as my hotel rooms, towels are damp and used, and trash can is suspiciously occupied.  I am not a fool and thinking I am a one and only, but don't need the reminder.  So even in my home location, I typically set up mutual outcalls.
I totally get this.  I make sure that I can provide upscale incalls, plenty of time between dates, low volume, etc.  I suppose there's a certain degree of 'you get what you pay for'.  I make sure my time is worth enough to provide for this type of atmosphere.

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Advisor20081980 reads

Classiness of the lady or gentleman is on the inside.  The lady I was thinking about in that quote charged 500 for one hour, 800' for two, 1000 for three.  In that market she was high end.  But she was not classy.

You will do fine in this market, know what you are offering and be classy with communication.  If you become traveler friendly, and start accepting outcalls, let us know.  There are several members of this board you may enjoy meeting

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GaGambler1870 reads

in spite of her faux pas about "classy gentlemen" lol

and my experience mirrors your's, I have never found that price point and class had anything to do with each other.

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TheOnlyBrooklyn1524 reads

Thanks Advisor!

I totally agree that price does not equal class.  Perhaps the 'you get what you pay for' was another Brooklyn faux pas! haha.  My point was more about the feeling that could have that he had juuuust missed the hobbyiest before him.  Ugh!  If I want to build a solid reputation here, move around my incall, provide an upscale environment, AND be low volume to avoid my clients having that icky feeling, then I damn sure better make sure that I'm worth my consideration :)

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vamikey2098 reads

When I'm home, I much prefer incall; as was said, going to a nice hotel to meet someone is part of the fantasy.  I know my way around here quite well.  When I'm travelling and staying in a nice place, I prefer hsving the provider come to me.  I'm in an unfamiliar city, and I don't usually pay extra for a GPS in my rental so getting lost is a real possibility.  Also, many times if I'm staying in a center city area, I don't even have a rental car so getting to an incall location is problematic.  I don't really see any pros or cons for either except for convenience.  When I'm here looking for an incall, I can always just not contact providers who are in places which are inconvenient for me or to which travelling is too much hassle/time.  On the road, I don't always know the areas well enough to make those choices intelligently.  And I don't see a difference with to regards to security; I won't see a lady that I don't have confidence is diligent in her screening, and who doesn't have a solid record of reviews, the incall/outcall choice is strictly based on convenience.

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doogan441996 reads

I too hobby on business while in Atlanta and agree with AD 08, but understand your concern. I believe ALWAYS checking references is the key for everyone. I can't check, but through avenues such as this. You get more info by default. A date once told me they feel safer with outcall because of their reference checking always puts them at a location which be definition is not a target for LE.

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hoss22394 reads

As someone who much prefers incalls, I'd be guessing but here goes.   There's the fantasy of having a lovely lady at "your house". Vs the old ball and chain. And secondly, there's perhaps an erroneous. Misconception that the hour will last longer at an outcall.   I didn't say we men we are smart.

Posted By: TheOnlyBrooklyn
Hi guys!  I have a question for the hobbyists on here.  I'm a relatively new provider, and ONLY do incalls, hosting in upscale hotels.  I would say that 75% of the requests I get are for outcalls.  The reasons I get vary, but the most prevalent is that they don't "trust" a provider that won't do outcall.  My question is, is that a sign of LE?  If not, what do you think would be the real reason they have an issue with it?

Thanks in advance guys!

And, BTW, what is up with it taking a week to get my username linked to my reviews!! hahaha, I wish the TER nazis were as awesome as our mods!

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CBrown2679 reads

Brooklyn, it surprises me that most of the calls you get are for outcall.  I've always done incall, except once.  I personally prefer incall.  For me it's part of the "fantasy".  I really don't understand a hobbiest's  lack of "trust" in a provider that doesn't do outcall.  Do they know something I don't?

I can understand your saying that you are more comfortable being in your own environment.  You seem to handle your screening well, and that's the most important thing whether you're doing incall or outcall.

Of course this is all from the point of view of a "hobbiest". If you haven't already, you should pose this question on the provider only board--you should get some good feedback there.  There are lots of great ladies in this town.

I hope to meet you someday!

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TheOnlyBrooklyn1395 reads

Thanks sweetie.  Yes, it has surprised me as well!  For obvious reasons, I would have thought that most local hobbyiests would prefer incall, while most travelers would prefer outcall.  But that hasn't been the case so far.

And I can't wait to get on the Providers Only board.  Some of the fantastic and beautiful local providers that I have met have said the same thing.  However, TER rules require me to have 3 reviews before I can request access.  I'm working on that :)

And would love to see you someday!!

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gibson691991 reads

Great answers.  I think another reason for wanting outcall is the idea that most arrests or stings you see on TV or in the news occur at incall locations.  It makes sense for LE as they can setup the site wire the room, occupy the adjoining room and have their backup waiting around the corner.  To bust an outcall location requires them to react quickly to setup, and or, send the LE into your room without all the bells and whistles.  When it all comes down to it, it is a misdemeanor probably.  Is it worth it for them to run around the whole city busting one guy at a time, or setup incall and grab 10 before word gets out.  Having said all that I would see a well reviewed provider at her place, as was said earlier she would probably feel more comfortable which probably translates into more fun for me.

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TheOnlyBrooklyn3113 reads

Taking that logic a step further, would you therefore feel better about visiting a provider that had a permanent incall instead of one that moved around (as I do)?  I move around for my safety and comfort, but I could see how that would contribute to the "sting" concern.  Thought being that LE would be less likely to set up a permanent incall than work with mgmt of an upscale hotel.

Thanks for all the great thoughts guys!

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anonymousfun1512 reads

is there are no sure fire method in this. Much of it involves your awareness of your surrounding. One cannot say LE doesn't watch hotels and motels; no star to five star. Depends on LE's motivations, what has happened in the place before and many other aspects. Apartment, the dorm style apartment buildings appears to provide a bit more privacy than the old style ones because of one reason, they don't have windows facing hallways, so, nosey neighbor problem goes away, somewhat.

From practical point of view, as someone mentioned earlier, out call becomes bit more expensive and for travelers outcall is more convenient.

Personal preference is in calls, hotels or apartments doesn't make difference but the type of hotel, and apartment does matter. So, I stick to those I know and feel comfortable.

Nothing is 100% and very similar to driving in Atlanta. Sometimes you do get into a fender bender regardless.

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Binatl2041 reads

Brooklyn,

Like others have mentioned on this thread about incall locations, there are a few things that I really look for.  You meet most of those since you use 4-star luxury hotels, but there are a few extras that will go a long way towards separating yourself from being a solid provider to an exclusive one.

Incall expectations for me (just me, I can't comment for anyone else)........

1. Safe - I want to go to an incall location in nice parts of town where I can park my car and not be nervous about getting mugged or have it broken into.  I used to worry so much about this that I have actually rented a car rather than driven my own to certain places.  Now I just pay more to guarantee a gated or secure location.  Yeah, that would be great explaining why my car was broken into in the parking lot of some sleazy AMP in Buckhead.  Your choice in luxury hotels solves this issue.

2.  Clean - A dirty incall is the worst, especially if it stinks.  I don't smoke and don't want to taste a smoker.  I pay more so I don't have to go to a flea-bag motel incall and leave smelling like an ash tray.  What am I going to do, keep a change of clothes in my car to change into afterwards?  Using a luxury hotel is going to solve this problem since they by definition are clean and nice.  But the bathroom, bedroom and other areas should be kept clean for each appointment.

3. Furnished - Someone did a review recently saying that one of the more popular escort incall apartments he went to didn't even have a bed in it, just a mattress on the floor.  WTF is that about?!?!  I would walk out if I'm paying close to $300 and there is no bed.... a mattress on the floor, give me a break.  The first every escort I saw had just a mattress on the floor and it was a horrible experience, not something I want to repeat.  Luxury hotel solves this.

4.  Tidy - I don't want to walk into any incall and it be messy.  The bed should be made, personal belonging should be put out of sight.  I especially don't want to see the signs of another dude being there recently, like wet towels.  Empty the trash if possible.  For our time together, WE should be the focus with no reminders of the reality that someone may have just been there an hour ago.  This is up to you or good tipping to the maid service between appointments.

5.  Ambiance - Things like dim lights, candles, background music set the mood for a nice time.  I like walking into an incall that feels, smells and sounds welcoming.  Offering refreshments and a quick shower to freshen up is nice.  A bottle of mouthwash with some cups nearby in the bathroom is a good staple.  I want to be squeaky clean for you and you for me.  Jumping in the shower together is the best.  Some guys probably hate the shower thing but I don't.  Cleaning up before and afterwards is a ritual I like, and like I said, scrubbing each others back is a lot of fun.

I know I am picky but these are some of the little things that if ignored can get in the way for some of us.  I have chosen to pay a certain amount for providers who can deliver what I expect.  If you get into the habit of the small stuff like this, you are going to create the best environment for success and with a passion to please, you will move straight to the top of the provider list in Atlanta.


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Advisor20081695 reads

And it does not mater if in or out.  The best ladies I have seen travel with the small bottles of wine, small electric or tea candles, and sometimes light room oils or scents.  When they come in they change the room focus into that intimate environment often implied in a fantasy session.  Some bring wardrobe changes for the intermission refresh periods on longer dates.

It does not matter if in call or out, the lady controls the mood and fantasy.  I always repeat with these excellent friends

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ictoan4t1994 reads

I also agree and prefer incalls.  Hotels are a way to address the concerns above yet they still give a nervous vibe to me.  In SoCal some of the exceptional providers rent a nice furnished 1B apartment that they use exclusively for hosting incalls and works wonderfully to provide ambiance and mutual safety.  A fav of mine said with the 4+ hotel rates added up the rent even worked better.

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hurricanebeltane1615 reads

that the the safest thing for all parties involved is to restrict outcalls to established clients.

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