With all do respect to some hobbyist if you travel around the world like London, Paris, Toronto etc you will found some nice educated young companions from Eastern Europe. Most of them spoke two to three different kind of language and I don't think they are any part of slave trade. I do agree it is difficult for them to get visa to US but it is a complex political issue from our government and it got nothing to do with slave trade. Most of the ladies I met abroad are educated and none of them plan to do it as a career. If you are talking about street-hooker or drug addicts I can't say they are not control by a pimp or someone and it is no different than our country but is our provider control by a pimp, gangster, mafia or another underground slave trader? The answer is yet to be heard but I pretty sure most of them is NO furthermore I hope one day Washington will easy up on the visa and we hobbyist will enjoy all those sexy Eastern European Girls and meanwhile I guess I have to travel abroad at least once or twice a year to fulfill my ecstasy.      

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Funny you should mention London.  Found this link through Drudge just today...

(BTW... quick editorial...  We ALL need to care and know the difference between "escorts" and "providers" who do their great work of free will in the best spirit of humanity and capitalism and those who are involved in a deep, dark underworld at the mercy of smugglers, drug addiction, illegal immigration, etc.  It IS precisely those ancillary crimes and delinquencies that give the "hobby" a bad name.)

Mr. White Chocolate J. Flava

I just went to Drudge and read that. I come back to post it and snatcheroo jdiggity its done LOL
tyvm P.T.

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I can be speedy... at some things.

Doesn't mean that is the case with everything!



Funk Master J. Smooth

PS  I guess since I got done first, I still better take care of you!  

Sorry, you are just dead wrong on this.

Cultured, educated are charcteristics of practically all young women from former Soviet countries.  They have everything to do with where the girls come from, and absolutely nothing to do with where they are now.

Estimated 4-5 million women from former USSR countries have been forced into sex trade in foreign countries.

Don't kid yourself.

I am planning to travel abroad later of the year and see if I can found some facts from my source.

Come on.   Your "source" will of course say "all our girls are here legally."  So will the girls - what else would they say?

You don't have to "travel abroad" - just do a basic web search.

There are so many girls brought illegally to places like Tel Aviv and Istanbul the expression "Natasha" means prostitute now.

Most major European cities they try to be a little more discreet about it - it's an ugly business that no one wants to see, including apparently you.  

But the girls come from the same places in the same ways - lured to "good jobs" only to have their passports taken and destroyed.  Then they are told if they are "good girls" they can eventually work off their "debt" and go back home.

If you want to meet real Russian girls that are not being forced to work, you will not find them in Western Europe and definitely not in Toronto.

But as I said, don't kid yourself.  These girls are not providers, they are property.  I personally would have no part of it ...

Go further east - you have to go to at least Prague to get out of the slave trade girls.  I fly roundtrip to St. Petersburg on Lufthansa for $500.  You can take in some real culture while you're there too.

I know. I been to Prague and the girls are elegant and awesome, but don't want to fool around St Petersburg or Soviet. I believe the best time for hobbyist to explore is early fall and late spring, may be we should gather a small group to venture out next spring! Any hobbyist want to go?