A General Discussion thread talked about the lies that both sides (clients and providers, both) tell in our mutual activity. Yes, it is true that many clients lie to wives, family and employees to cover our tracks in order to pursue our fun, pleasure and comfort. And, the ladies in order to fulfill our fantasies and to honestly conduct a profitable business, tell lies. If a provider was brutally honest with her clients, she probably wouldn’t be in business long. So, lying is part of our “sport”, maybe not every one, all the time - -that is my caveat to keep this post on point! But, WE ALL can at least be fair! And not tell outright fabrications that only hurt others, or are there just to boost our egos or “public” persona’s.

GUYS- If the lady doesn’t rim or go anal, don’t put in review! Especially don’t report BS on her going bare-back when she DOES NOT! Exaggerations are expected in men’s self-reported “manhood” and prowess.... we are dogs and overly ego-sensitive as a rule of thumb..... but be fair in scoring! The ladies feel their livelihood is closely tied to this. If you book a lady that isn’t quite your “type”, but pics and website are accurate, don’t “bust her up” with shit scores on appearance. Keep it real! And, the fella’s are suppose to grade HER performance! I have “gotten up” for a second pop on several occasions, but, I (ME!) couldn’t quite pull it off...... I didn’t give the lady a low score! Probably didn’t necessarily point that fact out in review (that overly sensitive male ego {GaG is probably gonna saybsomething here}).

GALS- I understand covering up some tatoo’s for safety and identity, but if over half you body is inked, blur it..... don’t airbrush that shit with a perfect tan! Don’t advertise something as standard priced menu option, then deny or up-charge for it! We pay for “your time”, so if paid for an hour, give at least 50-55 minutes. YOUR tardiness is not our fault, don’t take it from time paid for. If the lady is so tightly booked, congratulations, that our HOUR is really just 45 minutes in your defintion of time, BE FAIR! and don’t fully charge! When lying about your age, PLEASE keep it to believable in a dimly lit room. Keep cup sizes within  
2 sizs, weight within 20% please.  

I know I’m gonna get nailed about my Ollie Optimist wishes.... but, I guess I need more time &/or bad experience to become as jaded as some of you grumpy old-timers. Realists? Perhaps.... Do expect big changes, Nope. What do I expect??? I’d settle for just a hair bit more fair-play and mutual respect.

Hopefully this will spark some good discussions

They say that hunting is the only sport where one team does not know they are playing..... dating civies can be that way.  In the hobby it should be known that both sides are fibbing a little and you should not be upset at it.  It drives me crazy when liars get upset at other liars for lieing

I love your hunting analogy. I have never thought of it that way. I don't have any objection to people hunting to feed yourself and your family. Covering myself in deer pee and sitting in the woods freezing my big ass off is just not my idea of fun. The same holds true to the hobby. If I showed up and a lady told me the truth about my looks, personality and endowment, it would not be my idea of fun! Please keep lying to me and I will continue to have fun! Lol!

Kid, you are good! I love the last line especially.
Not sure what's OP's intent for starting this thread ... we all know this stuff!

"hobby" born yesterday!!!

You (one liar) telling all us liars to lie 'fairly' - OMG, wow! LMAO!!! Then you proceed to give some guidelines.

You are offering ladies, guidelines, keep cup sizes within 2 sizes .. seriously?  
The shear impracticality of any of us liars abiding by your 'rules' - is so encouraging! Nothing personal ... but you need to spend some time in the hobby and learn a bit.  

Lesson 1 for today: Instead of asking others to lie fairly so you dont have to do any thinking on your own and can 'trust' their tit size as advertised or whether a guy fucked a lady bareback (that you want to also) - LEARN how to detect lies! It takes a lot of skill and some experience work on that than come and lecture us liars! LOL! (Corollary: Stop thinking with your smaller head - plain English: You will believe everything that you WANT to believe! That's how con works!)

Just to give you something to smile about: What you would say if a lady whose reviews say she does anal but she says no to you when you ask for it AFTER she has been with you!  

Is she lying? What do you think? - you 'truth seeking liar' ? lol!

NO! 99%c chance (it is actually a complement for most men) - your cock is too big for her to take! Get it? Now I have never been turned down for anal request - lol!  

Take care man! Remember a lot of items are YMMV.

I'm to the point where if a provider is going to lie to me about how big my dick is, how hot I am, how much they love older men, how many orgasms I give them, etc.... I would prefer they shut up and suck my dick.  I know that is crude but I'm there to get one thing fucked.... and it is not my mind that I want fucked with all the lies.  I'm sure others enjoy that part of the GFE but not me

Plain English? Your use of the English language could use a little work.
      i.e. “compliment”- not “complement” .... get a dictionary.
            “then” should have been used, in place of “than”
            “don’t” is a contraction and requires an apostrophe.
           other examples upon request.

I have never asked for anal nor bareback. Anal is not my bag, and bareback is just plain stupid and risky in the hobby. Now, in a monogamous relationship, bareback may come into play!

In my limited experience, the use of YMMV is used to cover a man’s “exaggeration” of his performance.

And my point of the clients reviews mentioning some “service” that she does not provide is for HER safety and to damage her business. If some asshole expects anal/bareback/or other, and that is the main reason he selected Lady X, and she denies him, he gets upset and may get physical or overly aggressive. Also, if denied a service expected based upon reviews, he may write a piss poor review, thus affecting the lady’s income. For lies concerning the lady performing bareback, she is immediately on my “Do Not See List”! Many other clients have expressed the same sentiment, thereby this UNFAIR lie hurts the lady’s business!

I am well aware of some of the lies the women tell to keep our wallets open.... “Oh my, do you work out?”; “Where have you been all my life”; “51, no way”; “I like you, you are not nearly as condescending or hypocritical as most of the other assholes I have to deal with”;  

Civvie chicks included because hot civvies, just like trophy bucks are so accustomed to being hunted they are always in "hunted" mode.  

 
There are fibs, and then there are flat out lies. The girl that advertises as 25 and 110 lbs who is actually 28 and 120 is "fibbing" the OTHFB who shows up at 37 years old and 150 is a fucking liar and needs to be treated as such.

Thanks Gambler! For introducing terminology to assist in my point! There is a matter of degree when lying!

MountNjoy

I was referring to a time in my life when I WAS the hunted.... lied to by a civvie/provider.  In that instance I did not know I was being hunted.  I was a dumbass but I have learned my lesson.

I don't know what occurred between you and this woman, but it sounds like it left a lasting pain.

Be well...

My kinda guy!

I'm not going to go into it here to protect her, as she is a provider on this board.... but it is something that I will carry with me the rest of my life and will shape all future relationships

Yes, I come to a fuck board to get my writing checked and to learn how to write. Thank you so much! (Have you heard of Auto Fill ? by the way the use of 'than' is still correct - it was meant to be a comparison not a temporal sequence, for the later 'then' will be correct. May be this was not covered in your prestigious High School education)

Now to the main point again, LEARN how to detect a lie! That is do your homework rather than giving holier than thou lecture to all thieves.  

Plain English: Stop thinking with your cock - makes it easier to detect lies!

Who said you do anal or bareback? (Now you got me thinking ... also you can deny all you want, every one know that does not mean a shit in terms of any credibility - any one can say whatever they want on these boards that do not make them true. Do you understand that?)  

The anal example I gave - all the grown ups in the room know it to be a classic! I was trying to show you that sometimes a lady may appear to be lying - but she is not. But you made it personal! The rest was a self deprecating humor - may be it got lost on you. I wonder why? Why did you bring up bareback? Have you seen a recent review that mentions it? Give us a link?

It seems to me, you are angry and hurt - now I may be wrong but you are surely acting like it - you got some 'surprises' from your lady or ladies! Welcome to the fuck world! You need to man up and deal with it - rather than coming here - and in the veil of a lecture to all thieves - go deal with your shit privately. Your posting here and your jealous personalized responses will spark curiosity and guys/ gals will look you up AND the reviews of your lady (ies) (I know it is not correct English - I am soooo sorry!).  

See, knuckle head, it is not a rocket science to find out who got an unfair low score in the time line for your posting, rimming got mentioned (and other 'sins' you mentioned in your veil lecture!) - there is something call triangulation of data, and theory of elimination - may be these were not covered in your HS education - may be the guys are doing that right now as I am writing this. Then speculative rumors will start and go rampant - who knows where things will go AND unwillingly you will get your ladies' (got the apostrophe right?) reputation and business hurt. Do you even understand all the consequences of what you are doing? The ladies do NOT DESERVE that!!! (Or, is that what you are trying to do - like a sly fox will do - hurt back when hurt by some one?)

You are not as smart as you think you are; nor as innocent as you are trying to appear!

So for one last time: man up, suck it up, put your tail between your legs, and go enjoy your times with the great ladies of Atlanta and stop being a control freak! If you cannot take the heat leave the kitchen, do not blame others in the kitchen.

Finally, this board is for fun, jokes and good information - self serving priest like lectures fall flat and have very little room here, just in case you did not know ...

You made some incorrect assumptions, what with your amazing IQ I found hard to believe.
1. College degree in Chemistry.
2. Another thread on The General Discussion board prompted this initial thread. Not some lady’s low score.... I understand triangulation and the Krebs Cycle.
3. You (and others) may find this hard to believe, but I have not been fucked over by any of the ladies, and therefore have no hurt feelings or bitter about anything here.
4. Anal I have never asked for, not been offered either so there may be something to your theory on size matters to lady when it comes to anal. Congratulations on never being turned down on requests for such.
Personally, I think it verges on being nasty and gross. Plus it goes against natures design.... The female pussy is such a wonderful thing, I can’t comprehend wanting to stick MY dick in the same hole shit comes out of! Cover or no cover! Perhaps I may be missing something.... But I’ve never fucked a camel either.
5. The purpose of my “bareback” is that many of the ladies I see have said the request is happening a lot more; Right now it is a buyers market (Dekalb Co.) and the girls are offering to gain an advantage in the marketplace, or the consumer is trying to get more bang for his buck!
6. I have NOT lied on this board! I am perfectly fine with 100% of me! I may be guilty of “omission of facts” that others feel obliged to put in their reviews. Examples- lack of me nutting when I got 2nd or 3rd erection, or other exact details.... some shit just needs to stay between me and the lady.
 7. The control freak- Where the fuck did your super brain get that from? I am not trying to control anything. I know I am probably considered a novice by the johns on TER (seriously doubt you’ll find any ladies to agree!!), I am just hoping to firstly improve safety for the ladies and secondly, (in Gamblers words) increase fibbing and decrease lying.... just a cunt hair on any of these is a plus!
 
And could please point out to me where you thought you read anything I’ve written motivated by my jealously. I re-read a couple of times and couldn’t find it!  

And calling me a priest.... they never pay for pussy, they get choir boys for free!!! Hey, are you jealous?

Because if it is, she has a long and devastating track record.

If you want my advice, hobbying on your part will not make you feel better under the circumstances. Hobbying in my experience is best enjoyed when approached as fun, not wellness.

I don't know who you are refferring to....

As for hobbying to feel better, I'm not doing it to feel better.  I have many other avenues for that, I appreciate the advice though.  For me hobbying is a replacement for masturbation, not a complete replacement but "the stranger" can only visit so often before I need some help with that

Feel free to private message me and I can confirm or deny if it is her, or you can just describe her body to me and I can confirm or deny

I am sorry to have angered you! Please forgive us for our sins. We do not know the difference between pussy hole and shit hole - nature's design!  

Seems like you are very angry and sensitive! To the point that you are still not catching that anal thing I wrote about was meant to show (1) that an appearance of lie may not be a lie  and (2) a lead to a self deprecating joke as well.  You are also highly conceited! To the point you, that you do not understand self-deprecation - sorry youall other readers now I have to explain my joke to this guy - breaking the carnal rule of humor - I was never turned down for an anal meant my dick is small or takeable by the lady! (Ike's - I really hate to explain a joke)  

Of course, what my size is and what I really do is between me and the lady - none of anybody's business.

regarding, jealous - I meant to say over jealous attempt - to keep the veil going and keep telling us what YOU do which is holier than others. If you saw a discussion on another board, just give us a link - do not personalize it to much with specificity such as rimming, low score and personalize the whole thing!

One more time, try to understand the total consequences of your actions. If you want ladies safe and sound - stop preaching about their safety AND get undue attention to them with your personalization.  

If you want to promote safety and decrease lying, do you think lecturing on a fuck board is going to be effective? There are better ways. Learn how to do it!  

And, keep the camel alone - the proverbial poor animal has been fucked over the ages!

This is my last response to you!

Amen.

my last short and sweet-

Enjoyed it!  

I did get the asshole joke!! And I almost used the line.... “ You may be correct, I might not be as smart as I think, but I AM smarter then I sound!” That’s self-deprecating humor, ain’t it?  

And your right, I should have picked a different critter then the camel..... But if Inhad picked a goat or a mule..... That would have just been sitting on a tee for you to a good whack at!!

I do want to be a better “member on this board”.... Could you please explain how my actions brought “undue” attention to them with my personalization?  Seriously..... reply here or PM:

Sorry I was gone to fuck my camel (lol!) did not see your post. - seriously though your joke was partially self deprecating and not humorous at all. The camel thing is racist and demeaning though - but hey that's between you and your maker - I do not care.

Yes, we better discuss the answer to all your questions via PM. I think you have started to get it ... just PM me all your questions - I will respond.

Morning gg1020- I wanted to apologize for my insensitive comment referring to unatural acts with the most proficient beast of burden. I am truly sorry, I do hope you accept my sincerest apology!

MountNjoy