I never said she was a COP....I said a friend (a very nice guy who is known on these boards)....He stated he called her and she "SOUNDED" Like a COP....(NOT IS OR HE THINKS SHE IS A COP)MEANING....She asked a million and one questions and he felt like he was being interrogated. I also said and you didn't post it and it can be found on the TBD database that she is a very attractive lady, I also agreed with her on not keeping information on men as she stated she does not do that.
Quit trying to make this into a big thing! If she has a problem with what I said then she can contact me.
I have never been one to not to say what I think and you have the right to do the same.
So for those like you who did not understand my post on TBD (months ago) I hope this letter will shed some light and if it doesn't then I can't help you.
While I am on the subject of my thoughts and explanations of them I also want to state that I think it is in poor taste to post about a tradgedy to drum up business..real or not real....we all have problems...She is lucky that she has her corporate 8-5 F/T job..(sales and marketing) and I hope they are able to help her because it is a tradgedy. Homeowners and Renters Insurance also helps...But, What next are we going to hear men tell us they need discounts when they have a crisis?
[email protected] if you want to email me
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Hello Raven,
I was going to e-mail you directly but felt a need to put this out in public because I think this is something many need to hear. I preface this by saying I have nothing but respect for you and how you conduct yourself, but sometimes in an effort to create a safe envirnment for both the ladies and guys, we may be over zealous in stating information without verifing the facts.
The incident I am refering to is a post that was on TBD about where someone was asking for info about Janet Jewel. Below is a copy for the thread between the Flamingo Kid and You:
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Flamingo Kid - Help! Anybody know "Jante Jewel" or "Jharmie" ?
They're both on Eros-Atlanta.
As usual: exceptionally attractive, very professional photos -- but NOT "Eros-Verified".
I wanna avoid "complications" & not be suckered. Other "established" ladies with whom I've checked with know nothing about them.
I'm requesting multiple responses from established TBD/TER posters & providers.
Thanks.
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Raven - I heard from a friend that he called her and she sounded like a cop....I thought only women were the ones who thought like that.
Mr. Flamingo...thanks for bringing her to our attention...she is very pretty....do you work with ..I mean no her?
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Flamingo Kid -Rumors, rumors, rumors. I suppose it's a free country.
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Raven - I am worried for the safety of freinds (clients and providers)
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First off, Jante is not LE or affilated with LE. She is a very sweet lady who is new to the business. I can confirm this because I had the pleasure of her company on a few occasions. Because she is new to the business, she does not have a lot of reviews or a "board rep" like established escorts like yourself.
Because of that fact, because of the credability you have, it was somewhat reckless when you made the statement that you "heard from a friend she sounded like a cop". Now I do recognize that you were passing on second had information, and I have not base of reference for the off hand comment you made to Flamingo about him working with or knowing her.
The bottom line is that the comment had a direct affect on potential business for her. Being that she is new, some guys may have been scared off from possibly seeing her. If anything, if you did not know for sure, you should not have made any comment about her or have the guy who spoke directly to her, post his experience.
Jante recently had a breakin at her home. Its bad enough to be robbed but its even worst around the holiday's. Bills need to be paid. It hard enough getting started in this business without also having to fight mis-information that could scare off potential clients.
I guess bottom line for everyone is unless you have first hand knowledge, either don't pass on information in a public forum that you can not or have not verified OR make it perfectly clear that the information you are passing may not be accurate and the minute you find out otherwise, put that retraction out as well.
I would have posted this at TBD but for some reason the site is not allowing post and I do know that most of the same people surf here as well.
Looks like u just have something against raven or trying to get something-up against jante. can't stick-up for raven when she's really spilled the beans gossipwise and she has certainly done that. but in this case, no foul-no harm, she fit you criteria for info perfectly-she shared exactly her info and source, concerning a potential risk, which allows anyone to decide how much credibility to place on the info in making their own decisions.
I never said she was a COP....I said a friend (a very nice guy who is known on these boards)....He stated he called her and she "SOUNDED" Like a COP....(NOT IS OR HE THINKS SHE IS A COP)MEANING....She asked a million and one questions and he felt like he was being interrogated. I also said and you didn't post it and it can be found on the TBD database that she is a very attractive lady, I also agreed with her on not keeping information on men as she stated she does not do that.
Quit trying to make this into a big thing! If she has a problem with what I said then she can contact me.
I have never been one to not to say what I think and you have the right to do the same.
So for those like you who did not understand my post on TBD (months ago) I hope this letter will shed some light and if it doesn't then I can't help you.
While I am on the subject of my thoughts and explanations of them I also want to state that I think it is in poor taste to post about a tradgedy to drum up business..real or not real....we all have problems...She is lucky that she has her corporate 8-5 F/T job..(sales and marketing) and I hope they are able to help her because it is a tradgedy. Homeowners and Renters Insurance also helps...But, What next are we going to hear men tell us they need discounts when they have a crisis?
[email protected] if you want to email me
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Raven, you wrote "I never said she was a COP......"
I re-read my message and not once did I say that you said she was a cop. In fact I copied your original post from TBD in which you did say she "sounded" like a cop based on what a "friend" of your's told you. Like I said in my original post. Being that you were posting second hand info AND since you just indicated that he is a well known poster, you maybe should have had him post the information. In this post you clarified what the extent of his conversation was and why he thought she was LE. To be honest it just sounded like he didn't want to get screened. In either instance, because it was alluded too out of context, some people may have stayed away. I know I had second thoughts about seeing her based on this fact because I was relying on your feedback based on your reputation.
You, then also stated "I also said and you didn't post it and it can be found on the TBD database that she is a very attractive lady, I also agreed with her on not keeping information on men as she stated she does not do that.
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I went back to that original thread where I copied from and nowhere in it did I find the comment you refer to concerning her being attractive etc. Maybe it was in response to another thread but not the one I referenced in my original post. In fact this is the entire thread below along with the subject titles:
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Flamingo Kid - Help! Anybody know "Jante Jewel" or "Jharmie" ?
They're both on Eros-Atlanta.
As usual: exceptionally attractive, very professional photos -- but NOT "Eros-Verified".
I wanna avoid "complications" & not be suckered. Other "established" ladies with whom I've checked with know nothing about them.
I'm requesting multiple responses from established TBD/TER posters & providers.
Thanks.
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Raven - I heard from a guy That he called her and she sounded like a cop....I thought only women were the ones who thought like that.
Mr. Flamingo...thanks for bringing her to our attention...she is very pretty....do you work with ..I mean no her?
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Flamingo Kid - Ms Raven -- are you a BUSY BODY ? Rumors, rumors, rumors. I suppose it's a free country.
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Raven - hmmmmmmmmmm... Yes...when I am worried for the safety of freinds (clients and providers)
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Raven - Little something I was told EROS....cops are trying to establish who is real and not real...saves them time....ladie be careful if advertising there. Raven oxoxo
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Tiger Tony - Re: Little something I was told: the cops are no more interested in eros than in any other board. where exactly does one hear something like"Cops are looking into Eros lately!"? you either dont hear something like this at all or you are talking to the cops. And this stuff about trying to figure out which girls on the eros board are real... what kind ot conversation does a person have to have to find out that THAT is what the police are up to. besides, the cops already know how to spot a faker on the boards. there is no more LE risk for eros today than there was before this thread was started. Ask youselves: is there any other reason why a provider would discourage others from advertising on an ad board?
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MissKharmyn Delavega - Re: Little something I was told: email me Raven......
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That is the entire thread. If you did make those comments, it was not in reference to this thread. Yes I read your post closely, (as in your subject title), but maybe you didn't read mine.
Even though it occurred in mid November, like I indicated above, it put up red flags up for me and possibly others, that she was not legit. Hence I delayed seeing her.
At times we all should stop being so defensive and admit we may have made a mistake instead of spending so much time and energy defending ourselves when we are wrong. We are all human and goof from time to time. All I was trying to get across is that EVERYONE needs to be more responsible when posting information on public boards, especially when we may not know all the facts. Yes we all have freedom of speech but with that freedom comes responsibility. I can yell fire in a crowded theater but still be arrested of starting a riot.
I'm not even going to go into the last comment you wrote about what is or isn't in good taste. To each his or her own. I will say that she is not the first lady who I've seen on the board relate something that may have happened to her personally on a board regardless of the motivation. Some could say that it was poor taste when a provider annouces that she is relocating to another city. One person may see it as she is saying goodbye to old friends in a "business" sort of way. Someone else can take the opposite view and say "she is just trying to cover moving expenses". Either way, it is NOT FOR US to judge. Either except it or don't.
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I doubt she is a cop....she has reviews now. I apologize if you think I said she was a cop. So, Ms. Jante I apologize if I hurt your business...Guys go see her and be nice.
It sucks being new....I was accused and yes even Terri of being a cop for months...I still get crap and have to defend myself...actually, I don't even care to defend myself. Believe what you want about me is my motto...I see enough people to keep me happy 
and they know me very well! Life is too short to try and please everyone.
One thing I have learned since doing this and sometimes it is just best to let some stuff go!
Peace! Raven xo
First time looked like u have something against raven, or wanna get something up-against jante. raven can't be backed when she has spilled the beans gossipwise, which she certainly has done from time to time. but in this case, no foul, no harm. the info she shared, out of concern of a potential risk factor, fit your own criteria perfectly. she made it clear she was passing-on info from another source and clearly identified the source, so any reader could make their own informed decision on the quality of the info and their individual comfort level.
Second time around, by reposting all of the information you find damaging, which you already reposted the first time on this board after extracting it from where it first appeared on yet another internet site, you have done far more than raven or anyone else to expand the broadcast the info u claim harms jante
all over the the world wide web. in the meantime you suggest raven needs to recognize and admit her mistake?
I will try to keep my big mouth shut! You people out there quit gossiping to me!!