I wanted to get something out there that has really had me scratching my head. I recenly wrote a review of a young lady. (I'm using an alias on this post because the main point is not that I want folks to go back and research who she is and harass her for she does not deserve it). Anyway I wrote my review and the ratings were right in line with the two pages of reviews she already had. I gave her a 7 in performance and I think every one of her performance reviews were 7's with one or two 8's. If we all followed the TER guidelines in our reviews it would be easy to see why she only got a 7.

The review IMHO was accurate and honest. It wasn't a bad experience but not close to one of my best. One of my main points I put in was I was disappointed that two cups weren't offered even though there was time available and that I probably would not be back because of that fact. Even with that being said, it wasn't a bad experience, just not what I fully expected

Anyway, she sees the review and proceeds to write me a long e-mail about her exception to the review and the second cup and indicated that one was available if I would have asked and basically it was my fault. If a lady gets up and starts getting dressed, that indicates to me that the session is over. At that point if I have to ask, it takes away from the experience. I figured if I pay for an hour, I should be provided a full hour. Call me crazy for thinking that way.

I did read the reviews of her prior to seeing her, and I figured the reason why seconds were not provided in their experiences was because the time was up, but with 20 minutes left, I assumed we still had some time to play.

Anyway, I think it is VERY unprofessional for a lady to contact a client about a review if that review is accurate about the experience. If the review doesn't portray the lady in the best of lights in her opinion, she should honestly look at the feedback as a way to know what the expectation of clients may be and their feedback on the performance. If the review doesn't take cheap shots I feel it should be constructive critism.

Just my 2 cents but if you break this business down to the bare bones, it is like any customer service industry. I guess the difference between a GFE and just a transaction is that level of intimacy and attention to the client.

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It's not a very nice thing to have happen, and it's not very professional either.  A lot of guys don't put much stock into the reviews, but you can really learn a lot about a provider's professionalism and attention to service from reviews.  Hard to believe that one of the girls IN TOWN would do this.  Take it easy man, and thanks for sharing!

There is always a better one around the corner!

Joey

I hope I don't start a big war on here, but I'm goin to side with the lady on this one.  I think you should have said something at the time rather than wait until the review.  While I agree that a second cup should have been offered with the amount of time remaining, these ladies are not mind readers.  I base this comment on my own experiences.  If it were not for the lady taking the lead most times with me, I would probably not get much more than a nice hello and goodby in my sessions.  I have a very hard time expressing what I would really like to do when I am with the ladies.  I'm sure a lot of other men are the same.

In my opinion, what happens with most providers and clients has a lot to do with chemistry and try as we may, the chemistry is not always there.  In some cases, it's just a simple lack of communication.  I am not a very regular hobbiest, but when I do play, I always see the same lady.  I think she and I have great chemistry together.  However, due to my lack of being able to express my wants, it's always one cup and that's it when I see her.  I know it's because of the first couple of times we were together that's all I wanted and not because that's all she offers.  She asked a couple times and I declined, and now she assumes it's all I want.  Now, because I have such a hard time opening my mouth to ask for more, one cup is all I ever have.  I'm not a 3 or 4 or 5 shot wonder like some claim to be, but once in a while it would be nice to try for two.  

The point of this long ramble is, she doesn't know if you don't ask.  I think we expect an awful lot of these ladies, especially when it's our first time seeing them.  Put yourself in their shoes for once and imagine how hard it must be to try to figure out what it's going to take to please every man that walks through the door.  I gree that there are some real rip off artists out there, but most of the ladies I've met put a lot of effort into something most of us could not do as well as they do.  

One other thing, I do think she was wrong in contacting you and complaining about the review.  These boards are about sharing our experiences, and she should not worry about one middle of the road review.  I think we all know that all reviews can't be 9s and 10s.  She needs to accept that not every client is going to be 100% satisfied for whatever reason, and that her reviews will reflect that from time to time.

She is not local and that may be part of the problem since she may not know what the local standards are here compared to her city.

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Wolf pack,
Sorry to hear about your recent experience.  Keep you head up and do what you do.  There are people here who appreciate what we all do.  Thanks!!  Just my thought's.  I wish I knew who she was.

All you can do is tell the truth as you see it.  It's funny how most often the ones who care enough to respond to their reviewers seem to be the same ones who don't care enough to give you a good experience to write about.

Keep your head up...both of them.

opps, wrong thread to respond to.

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She didn't want to offer a second cup...If she did she wouldn't have gotten up and gotten dressed...PERIOD.. She only responded back because the review made her look bad and she is trying to defend her actions.  You don't need to defend your review

R

I disagree.  If this were dating, then maybe I'd see your point.  Since this is a business, about the only things that will come from this type of serive are 6(s) and 7(s) with the occasional 8 when the chemistry is there.  To me, the idea that a provider needs to have chemistry to give you top service is as silly as that same provider having orgasm after orgasm for each and every client.  

In my opinion, when you see one of the regualr girls, with page after page of 8(s) and 9(s) with 10(s). . . You can best believe that it's more professionalism and not so much chemistry.  Chemistry is nice when it's there (YMMV), but still, these girls work hard for the money!

Good points though madlovescomin, hope to see more of you around here!

Peace

Joey

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I agree with the Lady!!!  She is definatly trying to cover her tracks.  She knew she was wrong....  Who is the provider?  I just gots to know!!!!

allow me to share my side of the story. This gentleman and I had what I thought to be a very nice session. The chemistry was there and we appeared to have a lot in common. The apparent problem came in when I slid back on my robe/ or lingerie (I can't remember what I was wearing at the time) However, I proceeded to the bathroom to get a towel to clean him up. Understanding that there was quite a bit of time left in our session, I told him that there was no rush to leave, he could stay. To me, that meant that I was open. We sat up on the bed for a while and chatted. (we actually knew some of the same people) At no point, did he make any jesture of wanting cup #2. It is my practice to pay attention to body language. I never come right out and ask a guy if he's interested in seconds unless he show's me some sort of sign, (a kiss ,a rub, something...) I do this out of respect. Some men only "wish" that they could go two rounds, but in all honesty they couldn't if they tried. So unless the gentleman eludes to a desire for round #2, I don't want to put him on the spot. The reason for my email to him, was because I was clearly under the impression that he had a pleasant session.(He even emailed me to thank me). What concerned me is that, his TER review eluded to the fact that I "didn't" provide multiple cups. Anyone who reads his post will assume that he was "denied" multiple cups, which is totally untrue. It Never came up. From my experience, if a gentleman desires multiple cups, he'll either come straight out and ask or will give me some type of sign that he's ready for round #2.  I thought that it was very unfair for him to say that I clearly won't give two cups, when it never even came up. I told him that there was no rush to leave (Hint, Hint!) I am not a mind-reader, and unfortunately, there were no physical signs. This was clearly a case of "Lack of Communication!" I have no problem with anyone writing an honest review, Good or Bad. His overrall review was very accurate, but his many statements in references to me not being a provider that gives multiple cups were unfair considering it never came up. (This is what I mentioned in my email to him)

The True Story

Tanya36ddd

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Hi tanya36ddd, I have to give you your due for coming out and explaining yourself!  I think you made some very good points, but I can't help but ask you.  In stead of leaving a session with a possible communication problem, do you think that if YOU had been assertive and asked your client if he wanted a second pop--not like "Oh gosh do you want another cup?"  Rather, what if you told your client "Come over here and get another cup, if you can handle it!"  And if you had said that (and could put your money where you mouth was) don't you think you would have deserved and/or gotten a higher performance score (assuming that all the bases for a possible high score were covered)?

Think about it!

Joey

Have points. I read the reaview and it seems like a good review for what happened. According to the TER guidelines I don't think he could have given anymore than a 7. I don't think that is a point of issue anyway. I seems like a good time was had by all.

To the guys point, I think a lot of us assume that we are paying for a full hour of service. Many of the ladies he has been with probably have taken the lead in this area in the past so it was never a concern. Its a client provider eticate (I know I spelled it wrong), thing. Some guys don't want to come across as rude. I think the extreme example of this is when you go see a lady, and she looks nothing like the pictures, but you still go through with the session because you are already there. Again its a client sacraficing his happiness to not seem rude.

That is where the guy is a little at fault. As the lady indicated, he probably should have made his desires known and that could have lead to a more enjoyable experience. It seems the lady was open to it if he would have asked. I will say I ran into a situation where I did ask and was hit up for an additional tip in one situation and another where the lady just seemed pissed I even asked. There is no telling what the reason was for the topic not coming up in this case.

There are no universal guide rules for this business. Most guys assume that if they pay for a certain amount of time, that for most cases, the lady should know the main reason why the guy is there. If the chemistry is good, I don't see a problem. That solution may take the guess work out of the encounter for both parties. If the chemistry is not there on either parties, its probably best if things end sooner rather than later.

If you read the review, you will see that it was a very relaxed, non-rushed, hot time. This gentleman stayed past the allotted time (which he mentions in his review) & had more than enough time to give me a sign that he was ready for round #2. It's not like I had on street clothes. I just slipped on something to go to the restroom in. (robe/lingerie dress) As I explained in my previous post, "unless" the gentleman shows some type of sign,(a look, a kiss, a rub, or something... I don't want to assume & possibly put him on the spot. (Men do have Egoes, you know!) Joey, contrary to what you are lead to believe, "More" men "don't" require (2)cups than do. From my experience, most men like to sit and talk after the physical session. So to me,(after 40 mins into the session), that was not uncommon. However, I thought that by me telling him that there was no rush for him to leave, that he would know that I was open, if he in fact, wanted a round #2. I had no idea that there was a possible problem stirring. (He even emailed me to thank me.) I'll tell you what, you read the review for yourself and be the judge! I understand clearly that if staying within the proper guidelines of rating providers by TER review rules, considering the fact that I am a safety girl and I don't offer Greek, Facials, BBBJ or CIM, I don't expect 9's & 10's, those scores should be reserved for the young ladies who do offer above and beyond, and rightfully so. (They're taking a little more risk.) This incident did bother me, and if you look at previous post, I opposed a question in reference to this topic last week to get opinions.

Thanks

Tanya36ddd