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g35isme 40 Reviews 1799 reads
posted
1 / 20

Just curious but how come a provider will do BBJ but then turn around and use a condom for sex? Doesn't make sense to me

Khori See my TER Reviews 1252 reads
posted
2 / 20
CarpeDiemAtl 3 Reviews 1068 reads
posted
3 / 20

and I worry from your comment that you might actually try unprotected sex if offered.  Please check out the TER page on STD information below and get educated.  

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=75532&boardID=33&page=

der441 226 Reviews 936 reads
posted
4 / 20

With a bbbj, the main risks are herpes and genital warts. With bbfs, you can get herpes and genital warts too, but you are at far greater risk of AIDS, chlamydia, gonorrhea, and a host of other diseases. Not to mention an STD that will last 18 years, aka, pregnancy! If any provider ever advertised bbfs, I would run for the hills. The only way I can imagine any provider willing to perform bbfs with a guy they just met, is if they already have innumerable STD's and don't care what else they get.

tapesh 18 Reviews 829 reads
posted
5 / 20

...however, the idea of feeling the direct warmth of the lady's insides on my manhood is very exciting.
Yeah, I know it can't be done away with as of today, but that doesn't change the fact that I hate the rubber. I wear it, but I hate it. No matter if it is of the finest variety, scented, thin and all that, to me it is just disgusting.
The day a vaccine for AIDS is in the market, I'll be among the 1st ones to get it and then I'll burn all the rubber I have.

ToniLove See my TER Reviews 1049 reads
posted
6 / 20

you going to see a lady that offers the female condom? For her protection AND yours ;)
Hugs and kisses
TL

Posted By: g35isme
Just curious but how come a provider will do BBJ but then turn around and use a condom for sex? Doesn't make sense to me
-- Modified on 7/4/2012 6:49:48 PM

Snowman39 938 reads
posted
7 / 20

People will tell you that you are CRAZY to even consider it...

People will tell you how much "safer" it is to do a BBBJ...

People will point out you are not to be trusted for even broaching the subject...

But this is what I find so hypocritical about the whole thing...

Prostitution by its nature is one of the most dangerous professions on the face of the earth. There are always stories about poor ladies (and sometimes men) who fall victim in this trade. Yes, you can screen, and yes, you can ask for references. That still does not change the simple fact that it is still a very dangerous profession. There are a lot of individuals out there who would call us crazy for being associated with this profession either as a provider or hobbiest, so I really find it hypocritical for anyone involved in this profession to try to judge others for what limits they choose to set for themselves.

I think both ladies and gents should set their own boundaries, but to judge others is like throwing stones when you live in a glass house.

Just my .02

MeetEricaStone See my TER Reviews 877 reads
posted
8 / 20

Posted By: g35isme
Just curious but how come a provider will do BBJ but then turn around and use a condom for sex? Doesn't make sense to me

g35isme 40 Reviews 1309 reads
posted
9 / 20

First I think you all are missing my point.  From my research you can get STD's from BBBJ.  Herpes, genital warts, gonorrhea and a host of others.  So tell  me how is that any less riskier than BBFS?  You have providers both low end and high end who will do BBBJCIM so again how is that any safer than BBFS?  You get the same diseases either way, so like I said earlier it makes no sense to me why you would offer BBBJ and not BBFS.  There are people who responded to this question telling me to get educated?  I look at their ads and see they offer BBBJCIM, so you really think that is safe? or less riskier?  Have you done your research and educated yourself?  I have no problem if you do it's just that I don't think it's any less riskier  to do BBBBJ   than BBFS.  For the record I do use condoms and always will while in the hobby.

1192967 45 Reviews 658 reads
posted
10 / 20

...They simply said the chances are not as high. You have a level of risk you're willing to accept and they (we) have theirs (ours). Yes, There are information sources that back up the idea that BBBJ is less risky. Note I didn't say No risk just less risk.
Nothing wrong with bringing the subject up again (though it does come up Very often) but unless you have some evidence that hasn't already been discussed nothing will be accomplished.

Do a search and see what has been said in the past. If you then discover you do have something completely new to add to the conversation please do so.

TrulyMsMocha See my TER Reviews 640 reads
posted
11 / 20

....it's not exactly crazy to jump from bbbj to PROTECTED vaginal/anal sex.

-- Modified on 7/5/2012 2:13:46 PM

MeetEricaStone See my TER Reviews 891 reads
posted
12 / 20

The type of skin, the area itself and exposure.  Your mouth is the first part of your digestive system, there are "detergents" of sorts in your mouth/stomach that help prevent you from getting as easy as it would be vaginally.  Additionally her body is not exposed to the body fluids for an extended period of time. Vaginally, the skin is more much absorbant and the male body fluids sit in there for a very long time making it more likely to be able to infect.

Posted By: g35isme
First I think you all are missing my point.  From my research you can get STD's from BBBJ.  Herpes, genital warts, gonorrhea and a host of others.  So tell  me how is that any less riskier than BBFS?  You have providers both low end and high end who will do BBBJCIM so again how is that any safer than BBFS?  You get the same diseases either way, so like I said earlier it makes no sense to me why you would offer BBBJ and not BBFS.  There are people who responded to this question telling me to get educated?  I look at their ads and see they offer BBBJCIM, so you really think that is safe? or less riskier?  Have you done your research and educated yourself?  I have no problem if you do it's just that I don't think it's any less riskier  to do BBBBJ   than BBFS.  For the record I do use condoms and always will while in the hobby.

MeetEricaStone See my TER Reviews 683 reads
posted
13 / 20

yes, I do offer BBJCIM, but not before spending 3 hours with the director of the clinic for sex workers in San Francisco.  This doctor took the time to explain and show visual aids (disgusting pics) of all the known risks to me in this job.  It was with that knowledge that I realized the risk to my long term health was actually pretty great though even if I provided BBBJ.  So while there are always new developments and debate that I need to keep up on, this is my business AND my health and I do take it seriously.  

As XYZ said, it's LESS risky and any responsible article or resource would tell you the same.  The info's out there - but you have to take it in and understand the context of what you're trying to absorb.

foguete69 38 Reviews 781 reads
posted
14 / 20

That bbfs is offered on a not so uncommon occurance.
and not just by unknown backpage girls but be well reviewed and known providers.
of course that is just hearsay...

JeffEng16 22 Reviews 712 reads
posted
15 / 20

As several posters have reinforced to you, there is a very significant risk difference between the two sex practices, and the fact that the diseases are the same that are involved, still has no impact on the fact that unprotected anal sex and unprotected vaginal sex are considerably more risky than a BBBJ or oral sex where a male gives head to a female or between two females.

And absolutely as all the commentors to your OP have stressed in their own ways, and have been 100% correct,  the operative word is unprotected.

And as is always posted on  TER threads, when you do not know the complete history of your partner, and they don't know the complete history of their partners, nothing is 100%.  The term that the medical  literature, infectious disease literature, and organizations like CDC use for completely knowing the history of your partners and all their partners is "longstanding mutually monogomous sex."

But to put it in perspective again the risk of BBBJ, when there are no lesions on the penis, and no lesions or cuts in the  mouth, are many many many many many times less than the risk of unprotected vaginal sex. Did I mention there is a stark gynormous difference in risk between the two practices?

HIV and other infectious diseases can be transmitted by vaginal secretions, but they are considerably more concentrated in semen.  So there are two bottom lines.  No practice is 100% safe, but oral sex, and BBBJ are significantly safer than unprotected vaginal and unprotected anal sex.  Unprotected anal sex is the most risky.  Far and away most providers are educated as to what I've written, and far and away most providers insist on a condom for vaginal and anal sex.
Some providers use female condoms because they are comfortable with them, and many have written about that on these forums.

This is reenforced by virtually every substantive piece of medical literature and every respected research/epedemiology/infectious disease facility or department including the CDC.

See:
CDC: Oral Sex and HIV Risk

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/factsheets/oralsex.htm

Posted By: g35isme
First I think you all are missing my point.  From my research you can get STD's from BBBJ.  Herpes, genital warts, gonorrhea and a host of others.  So tell  me how is that any less riskier than BBFS?  You have providers both low end and high end who will do BBBJCIM so again how is that any safer than BBFS?  You get the same diseases either way, so like I said earlier it makes no sense to me why you would offer BBBJ and not BBFS.  There are people who responded to this question telling me to get educated?  I look at their ads and see they offer BBBJCIM, so you really think that is safe? or less riskier?  Have you done your research and educated yourself?  I have no problem if you do it's just that I don't think it's any less riskier  to do BBBBJ   than BBFS.  For the record I do use condoms and always will while in the hobby.


-- Modified on 7/5/2012 7:48:51 PM

MeetEricaStone See my TER Reviews 762 reads
posted
16 / 20

The following sentence was edited wrong im my original post and came out totally opposite of what I meant.  It should say:

It was with that knowledge that I realized the risk to my long term health was actually fairly slight providing BBBJ [as long as I see the doctor and get tested regularly].

Believe it or not I was sober and fairly awake when I posted that train wreck of a sentence.  I quit smoking and haven't got all my braincells in the same zip code yet.  I'mma stay off the boards!

hitmew758761 12 Reviews 617 reads
posted
17 / 20

Isn't CDC great for informing us of this. Proud to live in Atlanta!

"At least one scientific article has suggested that plastic food wrap may be used as a barrier to protect against herpes simplex virus during oral-vaginal or oral-anal sex. However, there are no data regarding the effectiveness of plastic food wrap in decreasing transmission of HIV and other STDs in this manner and it is not manufactured or approved by the FDA for this purpose."

Posted By: JeffEng16
As several posters have reinforced to you, there is a very significant risk difference between the two sex practices, and the fact that the diseases are the same that are involved, still has no impact on the fact that unprotected anal sex and unprotected vaginal sex are considerably more risky than a BBBJ or oral sex where a male gives head to a female or between two females.

And absolutely as all the commentors to your OP have stressed in their own ways, and have been 100% correct,  the operative word is unprotected.

And as is always posted on  TER threads, when you do not know the complete history of your partner, and they don't know the complete history of their partners, nothing is 100%.  The term that the medical  literature, infectious disease literature, and organizations like CDC use for completely knowing the history of your partners and all their partners is "longstanding mutually monogomous sex."

But to put it in perspective again the risk of BBBJ, when there are no lesions on the penis, and no lesions or cuts in the  mouth, are many many many many many times less than the risk of unprotected vaginal sex. Did I mention there is a stark gynormous difference in risk between the two practices?

HIV and other infectious diseases can be transmitted by vaginal secretions, but they are considerably more concentrated in semen.  So there are two bottom lines.  No practice is 100% safe, but oral sex, and BBBJ are significantly safer than unprotected vaginal and unprotected anal sex.  Unprotected anal sex is the most risky.  Far and away most providers are educated as to what I've written, and far and away most providers insist on a condom for vaginal and anal sex.
Some providers use female condoms because they are comfortable with them, and many have written about that on these forums.

This is reenforced by virtually every substantive piece of medical literature and every respected research/epedemiology/infectious disease facility or department including the CDC.

See:
CDC: Oral Sex and HIV Risk

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/factsheets/oralsex.htm
Posted By: g35isme
First I think you all are missing my point.  From my research you can get STD's from BBBJ.  Herpes, genital warts, gonorrhea and a host of others.  So tell  me how is that any less riskier than BBFS?  You have providers both low end and high end who will do BBBJCIM so again how is that any safer than BBFS?  You get the same diseases either way, so like I said earlier it makes no sense to me why you would offer BBBJ and not BBFS.  There are people who responded to this question telling me to get educated?  I look at their ads and see they offer BBBJCIM, so you really think that is safe? or less riskier?  Have you done your research and educated yourself?  I have no problem if you do it's just that I don't think it's any less riskier  to do BBBBJ   than BBFS.  For the record I do use condoms and always will while in the hobby.


-- Modified on 7/5/2012 7:48:51 PM

ramza 3 Reviews 727 reads
posted
18 / 20

STDs are are is a sexually transmitted infections passed on through sexual intercourse.  If you have a cold and you wipe your snot on someone, you may pass a virus to someone else.  It isn't guaranteed but possible.  It is less possible if you stay at home and don't come in contact with others.

I don't know, I think STDs are a numbers game.  If you have sex, unprotected sex with a person that has a lot of sex then you increase your chances of getting a STD.  If you have a lot of unprotected sex with other random people that also don't have protected sex then you almost guarantee to get a STD.

On BBJs, providers take a risk but they also have to market a good experience.  BBFS is insane, BBJS is less so but still risky.  

tapesh 18 Reviews 543 reads
posted
19 / 20

What is the difference between "anal sex- top" and "anal sex - bottom"?

g35isme 40 Reviews 887 reads
posted
20 / 20

No I don't want the numbers. I use protection as I stated before.  I was just asking the question, but my point is you can't tell me it is any more less risky doing BBJ's because you don't know what your partner has.  I doubt providers or hobbyist examine each other before they get started.   Do you look in a person's mouth to check if they have sores?  It's a risk period.

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