Being a clueless new guy, who didn't even know about the newbie board, I posted my first naive question to the general population. I gotta say... they welcomed me, were incredibly patient and very encouraging to me. Think I'm gonna like it here! Now that I know about this board, this seems like the more appropriate place to ask my Intro to Hobbyist questions.
Typically, I'm a guy who likes to tip a little extra for anyone who does an even average job. Everyone's gotta make a living. But what I hate to do is to overtip or undertip because i don't know what's appropriate.
My question is how does rate/tipping work with agencies and tipping in general work with Indies. I assume the Indie deal is pretty straightforward, the fee and a little extra for "enthusiasm", but I get mixed signals on the agency. if I'm quoted $300 from the agency what's the upsell? I'm guessing it's significant??
Any help is appreciated.
If you want to wade through hours of reading, just put the term "tipping" into the search engine on here and you'll find plenty.
I will tip when I think the gal has gone beyond the ordinary to show my appreciation. Some gals come right out on their sites and request tips, others say the best tip is your repeat business.
I tip for 2-4 hour appointments, but for overnights I generally don't. I generally give about $50-100.
I sometimes bring gifts as well, or in lieu.
I'd say most clients don't tip, however.
Basically, it's up to you and your wallet.
That makes sense..but...how about the whole "agency" thing. I was under the impression that the price quoted, typically $300 to $400 is just the beginning. That $$ goes to the agency and the provider works for tips? Am I wrong? How does that work?
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He is right. Many agencies charge for the girl to show up and be there for a certain length of time.
Then the girl negotiates a "tip" once she gets there.
But, in this case, this really isn't a tip at all. She is soliciting a dollar amount for a specific sex act behind closed doors on top of the agency fee.
Agencies, legally, aren't supposed to know this is even happening. They can't promise any sex whatsoever for their fee and the fee can't include any sex acts because it would be considered prostitution. Some agencies have their girls sign documents promising not to have sex with their clients. This is all just a wink wink approach to cover the agency if there is an undercover bust with a girl.
When the girl has to negotiate a fee verbally, it's pretty easy for undercovers to bust an agency girl if they can pass screening. Whether this can bring the agency down depends on a lot of factors, but they usually find a way to charge the agency with being a "front for prostitution" if there are enough individual busts.
Not all agencies operate this way and I'm sure there are plenty of other approaches.
So, a "tip" for an agency girl that is taking this approach is not the same as a "tip" for an independent girl.
Ohhh...I did not know this...never experienced this myself. Thanks for the lesson Angelique 
Tipping is not expected but always appreciated.
That is what nearly all the web sites I've seen say whether indie or agency. That's what all the providers that post on the boards say as well. (I don't remember any saying differently anyway.) The topic on here always gets answers from 'I don't tip' to 'I tip and bring gifts'. You'll get the full range of possibilities. It's up to you. There is no standard.
Agencies? Don't assume there is an up sell just because it's an agency. If the agency is reputable there won't be an up sell. There are agency reviews on TER too. Check them out. The agencies I deal with state the rate on their web site and that is it. There rate may be different depending on which lady you ask to see but it's posted so there is no "uh oh that costs extra" after you get there. Agency ladies get reviewed just like the indies. Read the reviews, see the ladies that meet your desires. It is true that the agency gets a percentage of the amount you give the provider. Some guys say they tip agency providers because of this. Again that's up to you.
I recommend you get the VIP membership (required to read the provider reviews) here and read, read, read. Read the self help center too. Top right of the discussion board. Under the life preserver.
Have fun!
Got my hair cut today, tipped the stylist, just got back from a business tirp, tipped the porter at the airport, the bellman at the hotel, left a tip for the housekeeper who cleaned my room for 5 days while I was at the hotel, and finally the driver who picked me up at the terminal and took me to the private long term parking lot. However, I NEVER tip a provider, the ladies I see are all indies, their donations are usually between $300 and $400 for an hours worth of work. I think that's enough. PS, I do bring a gift every once in awhile, I select it off the escorts gift section of her web site. If you want to tip, be my guest.
Thanks much. This is exactly what I was looking for. I have no problem tipping. I just don't want to run into a situation where I think I'm spending $400 for something and there is another $400 expected for above and beyond. Appreciate the help and I think you're right. I need to get the VIP membership so I can get the straight scoop on certain providers.
With an agency the split is often 60/40. The provider gets 60% of the donation and the agency gets 40%.
I wouldn't say that's written in stone but the ones I'm familiar with use that formula.
Tipping has been debated many times everywhere on TER It is entirely up to the client. If you feel she went over and above what you expected, by all means tip her. Personally, I do not tip, but I do bring gifts.
If you are seeing an agency girl, know that she is not getting the whole donation. In that case, you might want to slip her a little extra if she really knocked your socks off. IF she's indie, it's up to you.
Search for tipping on this board, you will see a lot of thoughts.
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The donation is usually requested to be in an envelope, set aside somewhere. What's the "proper" way to handle a tip? Do you hand it to her, leave it on the dresser/bed, or something else?
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that's obvious enough for her to see easily after you are gone. Do not attempt to hand it to her, when she finds it, she will know what you did.
Swim
Here's how I do so:
I have the money in my pants pocket, and just before the goodbye hug, I palm the cash and then as we move away from each other after the hug, I let the hand with the cash travel down her arm till I an clasping her palm. She will feel the cash there and know exactly what is happening as you tranfer the bills from your hand into hers.
You'll see a big smile, and that's all.
Believe me, it is very effective.
