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And that's why he's been dubbed TSTTT. That term perfectly encapsulates him. Furthermore, he's DEFINITELY TSTTTTT (too stupid to talk to Tobi Telford).

let me say at the outset that I am aware of the role of chemistry - real or imagined - for a lot of provider interactions.  

And I give pretty decent BFE -  eye contact, lots of touch, appropriate compliments and expressions of appreciation, apparently fairly decent oral pleasure -  and I'm glad to bring a libation to share if that is mutually agreeable  

and I do realize that a provider meeting some guy for the first time in many cases wants to get a feel for the situation up front - can't blame her for that at all -

but the truth is,  I really just wanna fuck.  A lot.  Very much....

...me luv you long time....    

so all I ask is that the "getting to know you" dance and the "GFE" choreography not be used as a technique to limit the time actually spent just plain boffing...

(when I think about it,  it's not the girlfriend vibe I'm really looking for here - it's something a good deal more feral.... today's excursion was perfect in this respect - we found that we shared a common interest)

now if you need a break and want to let the kitty cool down a minute I don't mind petting or conversation or some good BBBJ action -   or a switch to the back door if that's on the menu - and I think it's nice when she makes me forget that it's a service - as long as she remembers.....

now I realize that there are some who probably go see providers because they are lonely and especially like the girlfriend fantasy -and that's fine -

But I think we need a new metric in our reviews -   amount of compensated time spent in action..

boink then  :p    that would confirm my suspicion in some cases -

actually I do have a very workable solution -   at least it's working for me :

But if you want to pound a chick for the entire date, then stick your dick in other orifices once you've chafed her vag, you're probably going to want to book with someone who'd be cool with that.  

Personally, my labia shrivels when adults use the term "boink," but maybe that's just me.

I love it - thank you....

my post in its entirety was meant to be taken just a bit tongue in cheek - but to each his or her own -    I've just read tons of reviews over the years where the "client"  ran out of time or was short on time -  now you can blame the client if you wish but it does seem to me that a lot of the "gfe" thing evolved as a strategy to actually limit the action while selling the client on the notion that the girlfriend bit was real and meaningful -

Ironic considering that the term "girlfriend experience" originated in south east Asia as a euphemism for bareback full service :p

And I mean you specifically, you think it is some type of trick to limit the action. Get a PSE and leave the GFE to guys who want that.  

I have been a GF and it was not all chitty chitty bang bang for the entire freaking time. So my GFE is based on what I can handle with someone I am not attracted to and what I have experienced otherwise I would advertise as the FDE (fuck doll experience), pound the crap out of every hole for the entire time.

Not all girlfriends will do bareback. I have a serious semen allergy and have NEVER done it. Yes it has caused difficulties in personal relationships and yes there are ways to deal but since I have never wanted children I am fine with it.

That couldn't be further from the truth. I personally put a shit ton of effort into building a connection so that things can flow naturally. There's just nothing natural about me dropping to my knees the second a guy walks through the door. The fact of the matter is, 99.9% of men don't like it when we're being fake. I hear y'all complain all the time about "robotic" performances, but what's more robotic than essentially being a blow up doll?

Judging by what you've said thus far, you're pretty much looking for the most "bang for the buck," which is fine, but that doesn't mean that GFE ladies are deliberately trying to kill time and avoid sex. We're trying to create an overall experience, which is not the easy way out by any stretch of the imagination. In fact, all of my reviews (save for the fake one that I can't get removed) mention that I take some time at the beginning to calm everyone's nerves and have some laughs, yet my performance scores still kick ass. Most guys find that that extra connection-building actually enhances the experience, and are less concerned with how many nuts they get.

In fact I try very hard to avoid that type of guy because I hate feeling like a blow up doll. Been there, done that and hated it. I leave that to the ladies that love it. So everybody goes home happy.

In my experience, the guys who come in it with a laundry list of expectations are actually setting themselves up for disappointment. Those are typically the ones who are impossible to please, so personally I'd prefer that those types save their money and skip over me. Thankfully, most guys prefer a more natural, genuine approach to the whole thing.  

That said, I'm happy to accommodate a physically demanding client...but he'll have to book me at my BDSM rate. I think the problem here seems to be that a lot of these guys want the PSE/BDSM experience while only paying the GFE rate.  

Posted By: hbyist+truth=;(
In fact I try very hard to avoid that type of guy because I hate feeling like a blow up doll. Been there, done that and hated it. I leave that to the ladies that love it. So everybody goes home happy.

Cheap, demanding, with a "to do list", lofty expectations and hard to please, what a fucking nightmare for some ladies, possibly a pleasure for others

Pimpathy2627 reads

How is that any different than working with multiple profiles, at different rates?

 
... it's not.

Posted By: Tobi Telford
In my experience, the guys who come in it with a laundry list of expectations are actually setting themselves up for disappointment. Those are typically the ones who are impossible to please, so personally I'd prefer that those types save their money and skip over me. Thankfully, most guys prefer a more natural, genuine approach to the whole thing.  
   
 That said, I'm happy to accommodate a physically demanding client...but he'll have to book me at my BDSM rate. I think the problem here seems to be that a lot of these guys want the PSE/BDSM experience while only paying the GFE rate.  
   
Posted By: hbyist+truth=;(
In fact I try very hard to avoid that type of guy because I hate feeling like a blow up doll. Been there, done that and hated it. I leave that to the ladies that love it. So everybody goes home happy.

We are completely different hookers who happen to have a similar POV regarding this subject.  

What the fuck do profiles and rates have to do with this topic or either of us for that matter?

He usually just comes on here, rambles a bit about rape and trafficking victims being at fault for the abuse they endure, cites the dictionary (incorrectly) a few times, then changes his handle when he can't stand the heat anymore. He's pretty much the jester of TER.  

I'd argue with him more often, but he's too dumb to bother with.  

Posted By: hbyist+truth=;(
We are completely different hookers who happen to have a similar POV regarding this subject.  
   
 What the fuck do profiles and rates have to do with this topic or either of us for that matter?

AnotherDonJohn2066 reads

I take the stance you do... You'll notice I almost never reply to him or post under him.  

Lost cause.

Posted By: Tobi Telford
He usually just comes on here, rambles a bit about rape and trafficking victims being at fault for the abuse they endure, cites the dictionary (incorrectly) a few times, then changes his handle when he can't stand the heat anymore. He's pretty much the jester of TER.  
   
 I'd argue with him more often, but he's too dumb to bother with.  
   
Posted By: hbyist+truth=;(
We are completely different hookers who happen to have a similar POV regarding this subject.    
     
  What the fuck do profiles and rates have to do with this topic or either of us for that matter?

GaGambler2098 reads

I am sure you already know which category Pimples falls in to.

I didn't come up with TSTTT specifically for him, but I can't think of anyone more deserving

And that's why he's been dubbed TSTTT. That term perfectly encapsulates him. Furthermore, he's DEFINITELY TSTTTTT (too stupid to talk to Tobi Telford).

.....wanting a whole lot super kinky stuff but want it at my GFE rate and when I remind them of the PSE rate they go "oh nvm let's just stuck to a 'regular' GFE date then" lol.

contribution to the thread -    I appreciate it -  

I did not mean to imply "laziness" at all so I should apologize if what I wrote even possibly suggested that....   I am in a position to understand that being a good provider is very hard work all around...  

I do tend toward the cynical I admit -  a few people have had strong emotional reactions to what I wrote which was intended on my part as well meaning and satirical to a degree...   communication in the form of the written word, without the give and take of conversation and the presence of gesture and inflection often falls short....

in any event,  you've stated the rationale for true GFE very well -   to the extent that the goal is to create an experience that is satisfying emotionally as well as physically I am a huge fan of GFE -   and I realize quite well that providers need to find something about their client to relate to, to like, in order to give themselves to the moments -  it is a rare and priceless ability.....  

for my part,  my fond memories of times with favorite providers have always been about the moments of connection that occurred

Cheers -

Posted By: MarkusKetterman
contribution to the thread -    I appreciate it -  
   
 I did not mean to imply "laziness" at all so I should apologize if what I wrote even possibly suggested that....   I am in a position to understand that being a good provider is very hard work all around...  
   
 I do tend toward the cynical I admit -  a few people have had strong emotional reactions to what I wrote which was intended on my part as well meaning and satirical to a degree...   communication in the form of the written word, without the give and take of conversation and the presence of gesture and inflection often falls short....  
   
 in any event,  you've stated the rationale for true GFE very well -   to the extent that the goal is to create an experience that is satisfying emotionally as well as physically I am a huge fan of GFE -   and I realize quite well that providers need to find something about their client to relate to, to like, in order to give themselves to the moments -  it is a rare and priceless ability.....  
   
 for my part,  my fond memories of times with favorite providers have always been about the moments of connection that occurred  
   
 Cheers -

He needs PSE or a GFE that wants to be mashed the entire time. Some ladies love that, others not so much.

CoffeeBreak2557 reads

I like a lot of the PSE type of activities mixed in with the faked desire of a GFE.

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Just make sure the lady you choose is on board with that. Pairing is important. Not every hooker plays that way and nor should she have to. That is why there is plenty to choose from.

PSE, you to tell me what a fucking slut you are and suck and fuck me until I spill my beans. And then curl up in my arms and cuddle with me during the down time. I'll softly and intimately touch you and talk honestly and nicely to you, until I stir again. Then I want you to be a nasty slut again until I spill my beans again. I'll donate generously to your cause for the fantasy that is both of those people you pretend to be. And then, we'll go our separate ways, until next time.

I think that's fucking perfect, you tell me what you think.

You go find that hot little slut and have at it.

I'm not much into dirty talk -  but to each his or her own.....

Dirty talk often comes across as forced - or fake. Doesn't do much for me.

But ... in fairness to the girls that have tried it with me ... its probably not their fault.

Its me.  I'm terrible at it.

For instance:

"WHO'S YOUR GRANDDADDY?"

just doesn't seem to turn them on.

Posted By: MarkusKetterman
I'm not much into dirty talk -  but to each his or her own.....

degrading...   and I place a high value upon manners....

It can be very erotic if the right words are chosen. I mean it does not have to be all, "Let me fuck that cunt you fucking whore" type stuff. There can be verbal exchanges that are nowhere near that and still be sexy.

And some ladies love the really filthy talk that others find degrading.  

Really, for a guy, it all amounts to finding the right fit and being able to express or do what he wants and having the hooker he is with be totally fine with it.

"And having the hooker he is with to be totally fine with it". I always have and always will ask a lady if it's ok to talk dirty, that it is just fantasy and that I absolutely do not mean any of it. In fact I had a lady once who hesitated in agreement that it was ok with her. We went through the session and I didn't talk dirty at all. She asked me when we were done "hey I thought you wanted to talk dirty". I told her, that her hesitation led me to the notion that she wasn't entirely comfortable with it and that she might not be convinced that I didn't mean it. I'm not in this hobby to hurt anyone, physically or emotionally. I see a lady in Vegas that will tell me now before she goes to the restroom to het ready "and don't worry, I know you don't mean any of it". And then when we're hanging out during the down time she looks at me and says "you're so sweet". How cool is that, I consider that quite a compliment.

Posted By: russbbj
"And having the hooker he is with to be totally fine with it". I always have and always will ask a lady if it's ok to talk dirty, that it is just fantasy and that I absolutely do not mean any of it. In fact I had a lady once who hesitated in agreement that it was ok with her. We went through the session and I didn't talk dirty at all. She asked me when we were done "hey I thought you wanted to talk dirty". I told her, that her hesitation led me to the notion that she wasn't entirely comfortable with it and that she might not be convinced that I didn't mean it. I'm not in this hobby to hurt anyone, physically or emotionally. I see a lady in Vegas that will tell me now before she goes to the restroom to het ready "and don't worry, I know you don't mean any of it". And then when we're hanging out during the down time she looks at me and says "you're so sweet". How cool is that, I consider that quite a compliment.
Good for you for asking and explaining that it is in the heat of the moment and not to be confused with real life. I have no issue with two consenting adults do in private if it is fully consensual. I do have pause with ladies allowing things that are not good for them either emotionally or physically out of fear or a bad review. That's sad and dangerous.

...if only you'd substitute cream for the beans.

I've missed you, great new photos. Your fans are enjoying your new photos. Can't wait to come to NYC.

As Tobi suggested, book a PSE and fuck from the get go till the timer sounds. You are more than welcome to get what you are looking for.

A hooker is more than entitled to do what she is capable of. Just make sure that your expectations and her ability match.

AnotherDonJohn2057 reads

But he's not wrong...

Part of the problem is that "GFE" is a blanket term and often purposely left ambiguous by providers to cast the widest net.  I'd guesstimate that 90% of ads advertise GFE and like 5% or less specifically offer PSE, which is also ambiguous.
There are definitely times I could go for a pounding with a girl my type with a suitable non- prolonged warmup.
I'm guessing reviews and BCing were not clear or helpful in telling him she would be a Chatty Cathy (or Taylor).  

Posted By: Tobi Telford
It's called booking PSE providers.

and provides a high level of service where you feel that companionship is a bonus.
GFE is much more than the fantasy of having a girl who is eager to see you; it is the allure of the encounter accompanied by the mental and the physical connection.  
What makes you forget "it is a service" is a combination of everything not just performance..(her enthusiasm, conversation, attentiveness, wardrobe choice, atmosphere etc).
Using metrics to correlate the amount spent vs the action could possibly make providers complete robots instead of sensitive human beings...That is why, you have the option of PSE vs GFE

well said palomamontecarlo

Posted By: palomamontecarlo
and provides a high level of service where you feel that companionship is a bonus.  
 GFE is much more than the fantasy of having a girl who is eager to see you; it is the allure of the encounter accompanied by the mental and the physical connection.  
 What makes you forget "it is a service" is a combination of everything not just performance..(her enthusiasm, conversation, attentiveness, wardrobe choice, atmosphere etc).  
 Using metrics to correlate the amount spent vs the action could possibly make providers complete robots instead of sensitive human beings...That is why, you have the option of PSE vs GFE

and I agree with you -   I think people in this thread did not read or did not properly weight or by the end of my post had forgotten about the beginning of it -  in any event,  thank you for your response.

on the provider...   it is a mutual responsibility but especially when people get involved in a discussion on the boards, they tend to lose perspective and become one sided....

hotplants3439 reads

If what you want is to fuck, non-stop, then tell her you want to fuck non-stop (allowing, of course for a minute' to let the kitty cool down).

Wives and GFs have already given-up on trying to reproduce the inet porn experience. Providers can take-up the slack. But, generally speaking, very few women (even professional sex workers) want the putty pounded non-stop for an hour (or more).

Hire a provider offering what you want

AnotherDonJohn2185 reads

To conjure the air of ps pricing. You're more likely to get a body image problem than command that. Lol.  

For everyone else, PSE is a vague term, almost as vague as GFE. Read the girl's reviews and BC.  

Posted By: hbyist+truth=;(
In other words PSE. e.

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You put yourself out there as a man of means. Why don't you just figure how much bangin you want and add 15 minutes to each hour for a little chit chat with the lady you're seeing. That way you can both be happy. Anotherwords " just put your money where your dick is." Not every lady is going to be hot and ready to go the minute you walk in the door. Relax and enjoy the moment. A little chit chat, a little kissing, a little licking, a little groping can be fun. You should try it sometime. Not every gal is out there trying to separate you from your Benjamin's without a good effort. Especially at the level of provider you want us to think you enjoy.  

Put yourself in her position. Think she's not a little nervous opening that door. Give her the luxury of a few minutes of foreplay. You may find it makes for a better experience.

I don't know where you came from but you're over the top. You sound a little bit crazy. I don't envy the ladies that get to experience your brand of sex. Doesn't sound like fun. Sounds like an obsession. Maybe you need to get some help.  

You need to dial it back and crawl back in your hole.

marginal reading comprehension or retention.   You apparently did not properly weight or retain the first part of my post...     but I am sure that all of the ladies on the board appreciate your coming to their defense :p

hotplants1856 reads

You want an experience that's unrealistic for, not only women in general but, professional sex workers (who happen to be women.) So you touched a nerve with the few providers who responded, a few non- providers who responded, and probably  a greater number of providers who have not responded.

Whose reading comprehension are you referring to

your post - even though I think it is over the top and hypersensitive,  because even the most extreme reaction has value in reminding me to maintain my own perspective, and to keep my own ego in check -   if there is enough in my post to cause anyone no matter how sensitive this much angst then I probably did not write as thoughtfully as I should have done, and did not communicate as well as I had intended.  So thank you for posting

I get it, this board along with other board trying to make this into something other than P4P. To me it should be like, two people passionately fucking for the duration, no drama.  

If I want damned drama, I would have significant other.

Just NSA fun and that,s what I am in P4

but as you say, it isn't what everyone wants. At least, not all the time.

My own mood can change; one day I may feel more like the PSE experience, and the next more like the GFE experience. Hell, my mood can change between before- and after-dinner sex.  

I guess the key is to remember that how the time is spent is largely up to you (me, us, etc..) in terms of communicating with her and actually leading things in the way we want. I just go with how I feel and how our chemistry together seems to flow. If I feel like a beast, I let her know (and you don't always need to actually say it - sometimes actions speak louder than words). If I feel like slow and sensual, I let her know.  

I guess I'm saying that there are waaaaayyyy too many variables to even consider % of time f*cking as a metric.

well thought out - and I agree -   I was being a bit cynical about the suggestion of "% of time fucking" as a metric -

however a lot of people seem to write reviews that about "running out of time" for services they wanted and yet still give the provider high service marks -

so some sort of question added to the review matrix to potentially clarify this, while not making it a percentage but something still somewhat subjective, might be interesting...  don't expect it to happen though....

...review matrix is necessary. The details general and juicy cover it.

If you feel as though you don't have enough time to feel satiated, just book more time. If you only book an hour and expect to run the gambit of "services," that's on you, not us. Again, you sound like your main focus is getting the most literal bang for your buck, which as I said before is fine, but if you're approaching these situations with a mindset of getting the maximum number of nuts (or whatever the case may be) for the least amount of money, you're setting yourself up for disappointment. And frankly, as hbyist mentioned, most of us try to avoid that type of client.  

Again, I'm not suggesting that you not seek what it is you're looking for, but don't expect to get it at clearance rack prices. You should keep in mind that although we are providing services, we still have nerve endings and having such physically demanding clients can adversely affect our performances as well as our business.  

I'll give you an example. Once, I had a client who literally needed to have his dick in me the entire time. He booked 90 minutes, the first ten of which were spent talking. The remaining 80 minutes were spent either blowing him or having him pound me. By the end (I even let him go overtime a little), my pussy was literally unable to naturally lubricate, I was chafed so raw that I thought I'd end up with vag calluses, and I had developed a pretty painful case of TMJ. Homeboy STILL wasn't satisfied, despite the 90 minutes he paid for having turned into nearly two hours of torture that I soldiered through with a smile. This was a guy who had been so worried about getting the "most" out of my rate that he couldn't even chill and just have a good time. And I was so sore that I had to cancel the date I had the following day with a regular who's a total dream client. It ended up not being at all worth my 90 minute rate because the physical toll it took on me actually caused me to lose out on that subsequent appointment. To this day, that guy still tries to book a repeat visit with me and I just can't do it.  

Posted By: MarkusKetterman
well thought out - and I agree -   I was being a bit cynical about the suggestion of "% of time fucking" as a metric -  
   
 however a lot of people seem to write reviews that about "running out of time" for services they wanted and yet still give the provider high service marks -  
   
 so some sort of question added to the review matrix to potentially clarify this, while not making it a percentage but something still somewhat subjective, might be interesting...  don't expect it to happen though....

your point of view - and actually I am not that bad :p  

if you check my reviews only briefly you will see that I am not in the habit of being disappointed with providers -  

I know that I can go on a bit more than average and I am sensitive to that -  if it seems that the lady may not be enjoying or that I have gone on a bit too much I am in the habit of asking if she wants a break or a change - up -     really the last thing I want to do is to cause someone discomfort or to harm their business....

my original post was not aimed at what you would probably consider "true" GFE providers -  and if I need to put a "metric"  to my taste for fucking in a given hour - it runs 15 to 30 minutes depending on the individual interaction -

I was really attempting to speak to the issue of time management on the part of providers -

many try to lay that off entirely on the client - and it is the client's job to choose carefully and communicate expectations -    

however a really good GFE provider is a really good time manager -

my favorites over the years have all made my typical 1.5-2hr date feel like it went on for hours and leave me more than happy within the time allotted

15-30 minutes of fucking per hour is perfectly reasonable. I'd actually venture to say that 15 minutes is a little light.  

Just out of curiosity, how much time would you consider to be insufficient when it comes to actual "action?" Does that really happen a lot? You mentioned a few times reading reviews wherein the client describes running out of time before getting to experience everything that he came for. Not that they don't exist, but I don't recall ever having read a review that said that most of the time was "wasted" on the non-sexual GFE stuff.  

Regardless, when you speak of "time management," that eludes more to the complaint that some guys have about not being able to get off as many times as they'd like within a certain time frame. The onus for that doesn't (and shouldn't) fall on the providers, as we have no control over what your bodies do. That's all I'm saying. If you know that you can't cum more than once in an hour (and if you feel as though you need to more than once to justify the expense), then just book more time.

Posted By: MarkusKetterman
your point of view - and actually I am not that bad :p  
   
 if you check my reviews only briefly you will see that I am not in the habit of being disappointed with providers -    
   
 I know that I can go on a bit more than average and I am sensitive to that -  if it seems that the lady may not be enjoying or that I have gone on a bit too much I am in the habit of asking if she wants a break or a change - up -     really the last thing I want to do is to cause someone discomfort or to harm their business....  
   
 my original post was not aimed at what you would probably consider "true" GFE providers -  and if I need to put a "metric"  to my taste for fucking in a given hour - it runs 15 to 30 minutes depending on the individual interaction -  
   
 I was really attempting to speak to the issue of time management on the part of providers -  
   
 many try to lay that off entirely on the client - and it is the client's job to choose carefully and communicate expectations -    
   
 however a really good GFE provider is a really good time manager -  
   
 my favorites over the years have all made my typical 1.5-2hr date feel like it went on for hours and leave me more than happy within the time allotted -  
   
 

and we'd probably get along fine -   I'm not one of those guys who is looking for three or four "pops" -   in an hour I'm happy with one - I'd be disappointed with no effort toward a second in 1.5 or 2hrs....    but I'm not the type to give you lockjaw either :p

my whole deal is that among all of the various things that a provider and client can spend time together doing,  I most of all like to fuck.  I really enjoy making out,  I really just love the feel of a taught body under my hand,  I love to lick,  I adore a good 69...   but all of it to me is a prelude or après to a good solid athletic fucking....    

I'm an admittedly fading athlete - due to a leg injury which re-opened an old gunshot wound I had been unable to walk for a while, then unable to run for a considerable while, and am not in my best of shape these days.   But yesterday I found someone very compatible and we went at it for over 40 minutes in a one hour session -  turned out to be her preference as well :)

Ask a ridiculous amount of money, some amount he is sure to balk at and tell him why.

Actually means that the client is taking too long to cum or too long to recharge for a second go-round.   Not every customer is as "ready to go" as you may consider yourself to be.  They may want multiple pops in different positions but are unable to make it happen it the amount of time that they are willing to pay for.  That is something that has to be taken into consideration when reading reviews.  Most guys with ED issues won't bring that up in a review.

In all honesty I'm not looking for the same sort of experience you are but the topic has come up in conversation several times with me and my long time faves over the years.  Most reputable girls are not trying to waste your time with "pre-game" chat but there is a fine line.  Everyone's definition of  "getting to know you" time is different and you, the client, share the responsibility in keeping things moving.  Of course, that's a fine line as well and many gals will not hesitate at all in adding you to their "do not see" list if they think that your expectations are over the top.

you should focus on PSE ladies and get a blow-up doll for those times when you can't find the type of lady you are seeking.

and I'm quite happy with my selections, which feature neither the added tariff of "PSE" nor the use of plastic dolls lol....      my post is not a personal complaint - I am getting along fine as anyone who bothered to check any of my reviews would realize -   rather the post is an observation on my part about the use of "gfe" choreography in reducing the actual amount of service per dollar - which is not something every provider does by far - but it is a real phenomenon.   Thankfully I know how to avoid it....   and for those who are into the girlfriend illusion more than service quality and quantity,  there are plenty of options for them to consider....

...(illusion, if you want to call it that). They aren't mutually exclusive.

To borrow from someone on a local board, a lid for every pot. If people would stop trying to force their lid on others pot, they might find that life can be more fun. Thanks for the post, lively discussion, far ranging. As for me, I just do not have the stamina to invest in full on PSE like you asked about. I enjoy all the other stuff to much to even try for nonstop action or consider tracking the percentages of time spent doing what. Good day and weekend to you



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Often times the chit chat is for the clients benefit. Nobody is psychic and while you just want to fuck my 4pm wants to unload about work and the wife, and my 9pm wants to ask 21 questions about me like he's gathering intel. How do I decipher who needs what? Conversation.  

Often times I don't start the "clock" until that part is over…even more often the guy tries to talk for 30min and still play for the time requested like the half an hour was an introduction I'm just supposed to take as a casualty of love.

My point is this. Lube is easy, connection is hard. Being a GFE…a good one can be emotionally exhausting BECAUSE it means so many thing to different people. It's emotionally taxing. It's being a sex worker/fantasy fulfiller and a therapist all in one. It's making the nervous relaxed, the hesitant frisky, the lonely comforted, the horny satisfied, the clueless better in bed, the down smile… Do you think that's easier than just fucking for the hour?

Being a low end fuck toy is physically exhausting I'm sure, and probably not a warm and fuzzy existence. Being a GFE is an emotionally exhausting yet rewarding version of sex work to me. People leave feeling good or at least better and not just in their pants. It's my job to be what a particular client needs that day and sometimes it is just a good romp and don't think I'm not grateful for those mental breaks.

Girls running the clock out with yapping is for the girls who have already had 6 clients that day and are one precum encounter away from barfing or they are ladies in the wrong business. But trust me over half those guys complaining about the clock running out ran it out themselves or booked an hour when they know damn well they haven't had two pops in less than 3 hours in 20 years and booked an hour anyway.
Self sabotage followed by blame shift.

All of that said MK I like your responses to your responses, every post is a question intentionally or not and how one responds to the answers says a lot. Kuddos.

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for a wonderful contribution to the thread -    

I do realize that gents do see providers for a variety of reasons and that nobody has the ability to read minds :)    

and I do highly value establishing a comfortable and engaging rapport with a provider -   it just does not take me 30 minutes to do so usually lol -  and in my experience a good GFE provider does not need that long to sort me out either....

I've replied "well said" to a lot of good responses to many different threads, but I think yours ranks at the top of all the well said' s I've ever seen.  

It's very important for all of us to remember that it's a fantasy that the provider is selling and it's a fantasy that the hobbyist is buying. Fortunately, we all have different fantasies. It would be an awful boring existence if we all thought alike.  

Personally, I enjoy an experience with a provider who can go from loving, intimate lover to nasty fuck slut and then back again to curling up in my arms and talking about just about anything while gently stroking each other and sharing intimacy. Perhaps I've been lucky, but nearly all of my sessions have gone this way. So, it would seem most of my provider friends are exactly as you describe and read my body language well to know when it's time to give me the fantasy that she's my GF and when it's time to be the fuck slut. Both are awesome, and for me needed. I by no means want or need to be fucking a provider friend non stop for 2 or 3 hours, Hell there's no way I could keep up with that. The very last thing I want to do is hurt or break my toy, I want to play with her, have fun, hopefully she does as well and then we part company with no, zero, drama.

A good example of this would be a role play I had recently. She and I had seen each other before, she asked me not to review, when I showed up we hugged and kissed and sat and talked about how we'd been and what was going on in our lives, nice talk. Then I excused myself to go shower, we had already agreed it was "game on" when I came out of the shower. We did our role play, she performed to perfection, and when we were done she laid down with me and we went right back to the intimacy. I have no delusions that I'm anything close to what she would want in a BF so I'm well aware that she was acting in both scenarios. And that's perfect.  

I'm having a difficult time trying to figure out exactly what the confusion is with some hobbyists. She's providing a fantasy for an agreed amount of time, and when it's over, it's over. Pretty simple arrangement as far as I'm concerned, and perfect I might add.

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I will lick all of you ladies to death… Death by licking, it'll be a new thing and my mugshot will be SNATCHED!!!! Thank you guys though, Outspoken confident women encourage me and I…I think I'm in.  

My name is Samia (or Sophia…who cares) and I'm a teraholic. "Hi Samia".

Mocha you will barely recognize me before I'm squeezing those tits next month.

Tin Foil (can I call you that? the alternative is so long) you're a G for finding that post from 2009. Damn. I should stop wishing death on folks immediately. Ten years from now I might be on my Sharon Stone and sickly sweet and here comes my post about jump off a bridge… I respect your gangster. I bow to you all.

I love this thread…wtf is going on around here

Don't you dare judge me! Lol. I'm a real fast reader and it was lying around my girlfriend's art studio when I was stopping in to feed her tropical fish. I think she bought it at a tag sale or something.

For an ex-Catholic school girl from CT, I'm telling you I have a perposterous amount of street cred. Seriously.

This thread has been interesting, funny, informative, friendly and polite - not a hate-filled, troll-dirtied degenerate downhill spiral.  It even has some fun Tobi stuff.

Is this still the TER GD board?

Considering that I managed to throw a grenade in the pond, most of what floated to the surface was actually as you describe -   and I very much appreciate it -    

this is nothing like the GD board used to be back when I followed it -  

I am quite impressed....

If Pimpathy hadn't shown up to inject his twattery, I'd have said this is the perfect thread!

This was you FIVE YEARS AGO, almost to the week. Glad to see you have not evolved one iota as a human being in half a decade! Lol.  

Cheers to you indeed.

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Seems those contestants have a mind that can remember the most bizarre things as well.

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This was you FIVE YEARS AGO, almost to the week. Glad to see you have not evolved one iota as a human being in half a decade! Lol.  
   
 Cheers to you indeed.

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