Just taken advantage of by a manipulative ass wipe. See related link. -e
This is just a warning. The owner of the board convinced me to come to town saying I would do very well after he traveled to San diego to date me. taking him up on his invitation to come to his city as he said, I would be well taken care of there. Well I was there almost two weeks and only had two dates from his board the whole time I was there. In the end he offered to buy me a bus ticket after telling me that I was a whore and it was not his fault that I was out here whoring around and even though he said I would be taken care of once I arrived he had no intention on even dating me as promised. Instead he dated someone local when he promised me he would date me when I arrived. At the end of my time there I ran out of money staying in his suggested hotel, so he said he would come give me some money towards our session because he was suppose to see me two days prior to that. He gave me $100 and told me he would take care of the rest when we met. When we later met four days later he gave me $50 for an half hour and stayed an hour, on my way out of town and this is a guy that spends $350 when he dates me when I am at home in California. Ladies if this man contacts you do not go! He travels to San Diego and the bay area often recuiting girls for his board only to have them get stuck down there as none of the men on his board will not date touring escorts. Phoenix411 does not allow touring escorts either so when you get down there you have no where to post and if you post on Cl the owner himself will flag your post over and over again until you can not post any more! They make sure you do not get a call! It is a joke to them to try to get you on the street so they can date you for cheap and force you into bare back services.
This is just a warning!
xoxo
Amoni
there is no such thing as a "free lunch" - and you were looking for it.
Waaaaaaaa - guy tries to scam me and I fell for it - waaaaaaa.
Do what we all do, advertise, and use your skill and ad's to promote your services.
You made your own bed looking for the easy way out - now lie in it and xxxxxx your xxxx.
(figure it out)
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continues to slow that there will be more & more empty promises from gents. While the first response to your post is a bit harsh - it is very true. There are other advertising venues out there for you to utilize.
I am sorry you had such a horrible experience & thank you for sharing your story -
$tay $afe out there ladies
xoxo
Jazz
Just taken advantage of by a manipulative ass wipe. See related link. -e
just what I expected you are a flaming trouble maker. You don't even live here and your stated intentions are to not return. Don't hold men accountable for your failure to lure hobbyists into you middle aged den of pleasure. you failed in your marketing and you won't admit it. Some people don't know when to retire. It is not about blaming the board owner for your failure it is about you and your failures. Stop looking for excuses. BTW thanks for all the publicity. The board has grown 20 percent since you left town
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RMFAO See how long it last sweetie and keep name calling if thats what you want to do. You are being watched to see if you deserve the boards you have. Your responce was being waited for. Now that your side of the story ( a bunch of name calling and finger pointing) is out we will see what happens. Please don't forget providers make or break a board or it would be nothing but a sword fight sweetie. wake up and quit scwering every girl you come around over. You are such a gentlemen and you know what I am in idiot but only for trusting you. And, I should retire at 24, 24 is middle aged. You got to be kidding me. That is the best you can do?
He's talking about me. That's the best he can come up with in dealing with me. I'm the witch from the north, a middle aged unattractive woman who doesn't know how to manage her affairs and should retire. (Anyone in doubt should check my reviews.)
I am sure that's how he felt in my suite when he was looking me up and down like a lecherous leech as I was sitting there literally in a tie dyed t-shirt, boys swimming trunks, and flip flops. I dressed that way on purpose to remind him that it was just a social visit and not a session.
Let's face it, the guy's not too bright. Ha! -e
Real stand up guy! (of course said in complete sarcasm)
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I posted herebecause not many females even know of the providers area and the new providers will see it here first before getting screwed. I am well reviewed from 2005 on up and many females have wrote and told me the troubles they have had with the same person. A person of trust is just that a person of trust and the owner of boards are held to higher standerds then normal clients. Thus I have posted this warning because he did not live up to his word. I am okay but the next girl that does not have a back up plan may not be okay is she doesn't get a chance to read the words of a provider like me. Thank you all for reading my post my only intention is that the post helps one provider and it has so it was worth making.
xoxo
Amoni
I usually don't post adverse posts. If I post, most of the time it is upbeat and nice. There are exceptions to every rule.
I know the owner you refer to.
I know a lot of you do not like him, everyone has an opinion, but I am someone who is honest and does not talk smack about anyone unless it is TRUE and I felt the ladies did indeed need to be aware. Even at that, I would not post it on a regional board, but in the ladies only board, as Velvet suggested.
I am not you, I do not know all sides of your story, nor do I want to know really. I will just say THIS...
In what I know of said board owner, it is not really his style to use the word "whore", or the term "whoring around.
Maybe I am wrong and MAYBE he did, but I just can't fathom it.
Next, there are many places you can advertise when planning a visit, all you have to do is your homework ahead of time and be smart about it. See what responses you get BEFORE the actual trip. Not enough? DON'T GO! If you take a trip because so and so encouraged you to, and do not have any plans set, you will more than likely fail. IT IS VERY SLOW HERE RIGHT NOW... Had you checked it out and asked some of the ladies, most would have told you that. Even reading in the providers only board you would have seen that. There was no need to waste a trip at this time.
I do not want to get into a pissing match, but I felt the need to at the very least, state that it is never a good plan to travel unless you are a savvy "business owner" and know it is worth the trip prior to making the journey.
Live and learn.
C
I hear you and agree I did not think he was the type of person to use such a word or to talk to me that way either. He was like a big teddie bear when he dated me in San Diego. He gave me a large amount of money in San Diego. I did do my homework and Mike had 100 reasons why the things being said in the ladies room, such as all the ladies on his board were older, not going to socials, not posting right, (whatever) all in all he talked trash about ladies that I got to know as great people after visiting Az. I am a touring escort and I know the risk of the biz but please open your eyes this is just not a client selling a dream this is a board owner. When other board owners make the promises he has made to touring escorts they are actully kept. It is not he screwed you over no so what and it should be a big secreat. If we do something we are outed. You can not imagine how many providers and men alike have emailed me thier stories they have of the man that own PHXASP and most are npot good, if it would have been in the providers only section it would not have been seen by most providers.
next time you want to visit, feel free to contact me.
its a great city with tons of wonderful guys. unfortunately a few take advantage but they are well known to us local ladies.
i'm very sorry you went through this but you wouldnt have had to do much research to find the warnings on him.
but that doesnt make it your fault.
its still his fault and he's gotten girls into the same situation who are very experienced so do not feel bad. learn from it and move on to your next client.
Ana, darling, the Sheika would like to thank you (and others) for all the helpful information you’ve provided to me and to others in our community about this small change operator’s penchant for cajoling freebees from honest and trusting working girls.
God knows, this low-life scumbag is a blight. He has tried this scam before and he’ll try it again.
People who do this are sick—particularly in the context of this business. This character is a manipulative, predator who tries to exercise power over someone, just because he can.
People like this are sociopathic. They are criminals and--particularly in the context of this business--often dangerous. Every instance of their attempts to procure sexual favors in the manner described in this and other threads should be aired on this board. We all need to know…
Exposing this slimy, scum-bag and other low-life, losers like him will benefit us all and make us feel better about ourselves and bring the community closer together…
Imagine how good we’ll feel when he’s gone.
Inshallah
Sheika Fatima
[email protected]
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is he believes his own bullshit.
he really believes he is just a nice guy trying to help a girl out.
he's not malicious from the onset and in fact, he's a very nice person... until you tell him no and then he turns malicious, but he justifies his actions to himself thereby avoiding feeling of remorse.
anyway when i first met him, he said he was modeling phxasp after a site in san diego. i'm pretty sure it's http://www.scasp.com which has turned into a pay site. i believe both guys and girls have to pay $100 to get access to the site and admission into the mixers.
he didnt mention that.
PHXASP is the sister site of SDASP that was built with permission from the owner of SDASP which is a pay site now but you can pay month to month for $15 a month. SDASP is a great site ran by a great guy. I have repoted Mike's actions to the owner of SDASP and he is investigating exactly how many ladies have been used and abused by this guy. You also get 30 day's free on SDASP so ladies feel free to sign up and share your stories with the owner of the board if you have been done wrong by Mike no matter how much time has passed your story still matters! You still mater so speak up ladies. The owner of SDASP id listening.
xoxo
Amoni
Bottom line it all comes down to the $$$$. You have a valid concern and the person apparently did not keep his word, but you are the manager of your own business. Not to say that if he did keep his word you would have not dropped him for someone with deeper pockets. Bottom line its all about the $$$ their are no loyalties in this line of work.
yes some people are only loyal to the money, i agree however, the majority of people i have met in this industry are very loyal.
but even if you were right, just because everyone else is doing something, doesnt mean its ok.
not to me anyway.. i judge myself based on my own definition of whats right and wrong regardless of what other people do.
you guys can go ahead and tell her she's the one who made the mistake..... but dont expect to see too many touring providers come to phoenix as word gets out that phoenix is not provider friendly.
maybe he's just trying to help the local girls by keeping away any providers looking to tour here.
I am very sorry that you had a horrible experience in metro Phoenix - and I expect that other hobbyists who are on TER and PHXASP echo my words. What happened to you is unfortunate.
I watched your ads on ASPPHX before you arrived. Phoenix more that every other US city is based on residential housing growth. The local economy is in a mess. My fear was that you might be wrong to come here (and at a non-competitive price) given the current economic mess that is going on in Phoenix. I considered sending you a PM telling you that this was not a good time to come to Phoenix for those reasons. I didn't because like most hobbyists I don't get involved in the lives of providers.
I'll say it here: IMHO until 2009 no touring providers should come to metro Phoenix - unless they already have several hobbyists scheduled.
I really wish you would have sent that PM but I appreciate your kind words now in this post. (at least someone knew I was making a mistake because I sure didn't - lol )
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I know it is slow times right now everywhere, but for guys to beg you to visit an area and then no one books with you, not even the people that said they would it looks strange if not intentional. If nothing else I should not have had to pull teeth to get a return client that invited me to town with the promise of at least his appointment and his word that I would be okay as I normally would not tour a new town alone. Having met him before and with him being the friend of another board owner that I would trust with me life I thought I could trust him. Bottom line I was lied to, and I was duped even though I am a well known well reviewed provider (where is the dunce hat I am heading to the corner to put it on - lol ). We all get taken for a ride sometimes. I am not mad or pissy but I do not see the point on me sitting back silent for another lady to get burned as I did because my words my be a little harsh on the net. If I didn't live up to my word on any end trust and beleave it would be posted and as I said before the owner's of boards are held to a higher standered thus my choice to go ahead with the public post.
Harsh responces were expected, but hey I have thick skin and no matter how harsh the responces the information is posted now and that was the point of the post.
I'm very sorry for your unfortunate experience.
Something will be done.
LOVE, PEACE AND PROSPERITY,
Sheika Fatima
[email protected]
I suggest everyone take a real deep breath (just suggestion) but those types of threats will only fan the flames and attract attention to the entire community during an election year.
I implore everyone to simmer down and board ownership/moderation staff to nip this now.
Two dates in a week? Worst case scenario by my math here is you may think he owes you what $100???
Did he not front $100 toward the bill or did I read this wrong?
I have no dog in this fight (but neither do most of the other posters) and will not post in this thread again. I don't know who you are
Sheika Fatima but that was a public threat and I'd be asking dingus to remove it if I were you...do as you wish.
"Love, Peace, Prosperity" indeed!!!!
Do you think "they're" not reading this as well? LOL...I can read every negative thing a certain provider posted all over the net in every "Ladies Only" forum.
This is like having a screaming match and throwing things in Motel 6 over a $5.00 rock!
Im curious to know what it is about this girl's story that makes you blindly believe her? Some girl comes into town and advertises on a brand new board and gets very little response (she had at least one review on that board), and no one researched and bothered to find out anything about her, but you believe her over a member of our own community. I think that is a little strange.
Not only that, but the last thread regarding the owner of PHXASP, you posted that you had never met this man. So I would like to know why you automatically believe her. Isnt it possible that she is just pissed off because she came here at a bad time, and not many people were interested in her so she is lashing out. Is it possible that maybe she isnt being completly truthful because she made a a few mistakes? I would think that you would find out a little more before you publicly threaten someone and I an sad to see there isnt much loyalty in this community.
Ive never heard any of our local girls making an allegation like the twop out of towner did after coming here and not doing as well as they thought they would. Why is that?
Why would they beleave me, let's see not a single bad review since I have been on the boards dated back to 2005. I am well reviewed on the sister site named SDASP. He came to San Diego to date me and to convince me to come to Phoenix. He has done the same to other San Diego girls and the ladies that kept silent for fear of being jumped on have all came forward. So maybe they beleave me bacause I have no reason to lie. I was hurt and posted for all of you to see even though it was my mistake trusting this man other ladies did not need to make the same mistake. Why again do you ask why they beleave me because I have never made a thread against a single person until this date. I am not a drama queen. I am a well reviewed, well respected, touring escort that has never had an issue with any one before Phoenix, Az. why haven't you done your homeword as you stand up for a man that you do not know as I or any other provider know him as he has shared my bed - not yours sweetie.
Ps The one review is from when Mike dated me in San Diego. Read it it backs up my story even more.
xoxo
Amoni
I think you misunderstand me here Amoni. i am not sticking up for him. I dont know what really happened between the two of you. And Im not saying that you should not be believed. I am just wondering why The Sheika, having never met him according to the last thread regarding him, just believed you without investigating.
My whole point here is thate maybe there is something else The Sheika knows that we might not. I didnt mean to insinuate you were not being truthful so im sorry if it came out that way. That wasnt my intention. Im just having a hard time believing the man being described is the same man I know and why he is hated by certain people so much.
Truthfully, I feel like there is more to the story than I know and since I considered him someone safe and someone I could trust, I am concerned. One instance can be explained maybe but this is no longer an isolated incident so Im beginning to doubt my judgement completely. It seems maybe some others might know something I dont. I was trying to get The Sheika to explain to me why the feelings are so harsh with him by asking questions that might raise doubt. I wasnt trying to insinuate you were lying. like I said only you and he know for sure, but with your standing in the community with years of reviews and his now with threatening all of us by contacting LE, I guess my questions are answered. No offense Amoni, really, I should have worded that better.
Thank you for explaining what you meant and I am sorry I mis understood what you meant and took it wrong. 
xoxo
Amoni
Amoni
You didn't get burned you did poor business planning. For you to think "I would take care of you" if you took a trip to Phoenix is delusional. I loaned you money so you wouldn't be put on the street by the hotel I offered you a ride to change hotels. I offered you a ride to transportation. You selected the hotel not me. I may have recommended the chain but you picked the lousy location at 17 and McDowell. I saw you in San Diego and paid a discounted amount that you posted. In Phoenix I paid your posted discounted amount. You are not on my ATF list and I had no intention of seeing you. You asked me three times to come over. I saw you as a means of being repaid a loan. There is no trickery here. Based on what you are doing I would have been better off to not see you at all and lose the money loaned.
I did not personally invite you. You asked and I said nice place. You pre-posted on 4 or 5 sites and you did not get any responses. You came any way. Stupid move on your part.
I don't use C/L and never do so why you would think I flagged you is pure fabrication.The providers in this town know I help a lot of ladies and sometimes I never get repaid. That is for me to decide and accept. Because of you and the other witch in Portland that should be retired I will never patronize an out of town provider again. For that matter if you can't manage your money go ahead get thrown on the street. I'll continue to take care of and contribute to local ladies.
BTW I never paid you 350 in San Diego and I never will. It isn't there. So go ahead and be pissy but just grow up and manage your life and business better. Hobbyist myself included are not responsible for you failures.
If you're such a stand up guy, I'd think they'd be posting here without even your cajoling. This time, nothing. Tells me what I need to know.
This whole thread is totally stupid. To think you people jump on a guy based on an out of town provider coming to town and doing a poor job of marketing is absurd. Whay would anyone think a "board owner" is responsible for their individual success in town is beyond me. Stop and think people. Craig's list marketing. Get real. Hotel at 17 hwy and McDowell. Bad Neighborhood. Come on her postings on the boards look like discount offers from the 99 cent stores. She didn't even get any responses from TER or 4 other boards. Has anyone bothered to do research on this.
Sisterhood and bonding is one thing but to jump this guy based on failed,amateur marketing and fantasy desires is stupid. Anna and Eva grow up and get a life. Your private vendetta shows throughout your threads. BTW the name calling is childish. Who actually knows this guy personally. I bet not many of you that are trash talking him. These situation is why people are choosing to not post here. People are tired of getting their posting jumped on and trashed by a few bad apples.
Some of you people are posting so much I wonder when you find time to answer the phone and work!
To the mod's Mike is the only one who knew where I was staying. This is clearly him under another name. I thought banned was banned? Your not even honest enough to stay banned and not even creative enought to think up names that don't match the banned name. I am sure you ip will match up. Now who is the dence one.
How stupid is this post. A bunch of hens bonding for sisterly love standing behind an out of town provider that takes business away from locals. Has anyone done any research for this gal. How dumb is it for her to think a board owner or anyone for that matter will rise to the occasion to "take care of her" Sounds like she didn't do her home work. On posting for advance appointments is pretty smart. Making a trip with no advance appointments is stupid.
Sounds like the admin guy was dumb to loan her money. All he gets for it is unfounded flaming. How many of you actually know this guy....and the name calling what does that prove except the people doing it are low class. People wonder why this board is kinda dead. Well look around at the copy. People get jumped on when they say something that is out of agreement or timing with the key 6 posters. Is there anyone on this posting thread that have actually seen this guy for a first hand experience.
And Anna or what ever your name is your vendetta is so obvious it is suspect.
Things need to change here. Now based on his recent banning you may just have FBI and HLS with a microscope up our butts. Is that really needed. I don't think so.
Is it just me or does Mike have three names. Is that not a banable offence in itself? Again, I had advance appointments they chose not to show. I wonder why, Mike? As far as me being a touring provider what does that have to do with anything. If the same thing happen to a lady in San Diego and/or Michigan us ladies would stand behind them as well. And the area reccomended by the board owner was not my fault but I quickly moved after having been sent to the wrong area. One more thing the 100 was not a loan it was a deposit towards a future appointment because Mike had agreed to see me when I came to town. We talked the whole week prior. Never did he say he changed his mind about seeing me until after I arrive in Phoenix and Mike tells me he has booked a date with three other ladies the week I am in town to get them to stay in town. The 100 was towards an hour appointment that turned in to a half hour session that lasted an hour. I know that doesnb't make no sence right, well it didn't make any sence to me either. And as for my ad's looking like doller store ad's Mike edited my ad's himself on his board, changing the wording, the colors, and even the services that I offer. As far as Cl I had to buy a wig and be another girl to get a single ad to stick on cl so I could get the hell out of there. Please meet Kitty folks. she was created out of the need to get a date. She did good. She had higher rates then me and was from out of town as well. Guess what that was me Mike. Please I am not stupid Mike I got out of your grips by doing everything I had to do and then some. it shouldn't have never came to what it did.
Kitty never got flaged and she made some money.
Btw for you guy's who don't know what I look like see my site I have blond hair. Do you see what I had to do Mike? Do you still want to tell people you didn't screw me over?
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The pic cause it is not showing up in the last post. Just so you guys know the extreame that I had to go to.
I guess we know who has three names. Thanks Dingus!!!
xoxo
Amoni
Sounds about right. Typical misogynistic asshole behaviour. -e
Thank you Dingus!!!
xoxo
Amoni