Why, she is still happily married, she was very sexually active before marrying ne, and she decided to be a sex worker. She fits everything you listed.
Saw the uproar here recently about the use of CPA's favorite word, hooker. So I decided to try and find the origin of it. Like most folks I thought it had come from the Civil War as the local ladies would frequent the camp of General Joseph Hooker. Seems he was a fellow hobbyist and turned a blind eye torwards it and would partake in the fun himself. So based in that I never thought it to be that offensive a word, I choose not to use it here because the ladies here are companions not run of the mill street hookers. Can't wait for the backlash from that comment. As I dug a little deeper I found that that story is false, there have been records of that word referring to providers dating back to the 1500's the term hooker was originally coined to describe a thief and later morphed into describing the way a lady would "hook" her clients. Hell I've had a few reel me in hook line and sinker but I'm not complaining!! Lol! The word also appears in John Bartletts "Encylopedia of Americanisms" published in 1859. So now that we have had a little history lesson lets review, the term hooker while thought to be harmless word coined during the Civil War actually came from England in the 1500's and means thief. Now before I get flamed yes their are hookers out there, go to the crappy part of town or hit BP up and you can nail all the hookers you want. Just speaking for myself here but Hell no!! The ladies here are more than that, the ones I have met or chatted with here and in person are engaging and intelligent. Maybe I'm just lucky but my best experiences have been TER ladies. No thievery or BS, so bottom line yes there are hookers in every town but you won't find them here!! Let the flame war begin!!!!
so does "whore" or "slut." I prefer "hooker" to any of those. Some people take things way too personal, especially on a fk board. There was a certain MN provider who got all in an uproar about being called a hooker (she claimed to be a courtesan lol), yet NUMEROUS reviews stated she met her suitors and I am quoting, "In a flea bag MOTEL, and even in a car a few times." Courtesan, indeedy!
I can see women who truly do portray something other than one who sells ass, like a mistress type, but women who charge by the hour and fk guys with dildos being offended, is kind of funny. If you're not a sugar baby, you're an escort pretty much. It is rarely used to offend anyone...it just is, what it is. I can't think of a single guy on TER that I have met personally, who has sent me a booking email with the word "hooker" in it. That is just how they play around on the boards.
The very guys who are labeled the biggest assholes, are often the ones who will NEVER ask or even take a discount, will pay for dinner, and treat a provider like gold IN PERSON. If I went by board posts alone in my screening, I would have really missed out on some great guys...guys who still today, send me "Are you ok" emails when they know I am having a rough time in real life.
Got ya, def agree with ya on whore and slut. I just kind of assumed most folks would have better sense than to use those torwards a lady. But hey I'm from the south too and we seem to have a bit more respect here. Yeah some folks have way too thin skin especially in this biz or hobby. Really that was meant as praise to the ladies here in my mind a hooker is a SW bimbo while most of the ladies here would fall into a companion category for me. And no I'm not on the suck up to London train guys,probally never will meet her damn you geography!! I can see where folks can get a bit offended over a stereotype. Most folks her if saw me in the real world would think "look at that redneck bet he can't tie his own shoes" just an example. I guess just sucks to see the fine ladies here categorized with the thieves and whatnot out there. Just my 2 cents
Dear Ms. Rayne: I think that you would characterize yourself as a social and libidinal coquette who would have an equal concomitant social and romantic abilities. You are able to be comfortable at a bar in an upscale venue or in your private quarters of which you have a few. You know this because you have a unique understanding of the psychological needs of men and you would know just how to cater to them at a moments notice. The next question you should ask is how to say that you are a ho with out saying you're a ho? That would engage some excellent conversation.
Even as brash as my posts are on TER, it would be a bit stupid to articulate in such a way on my website, which is my main marketing tool. What I say on TER is all fiction....
We could try and define sugar babies and courtesans too...but since both get paid to fuck...they are hookers.
Wives...are sluts
Are you sure that I am not a "companion" of Dr Who and went back to 16th Century England and put the term hooker into existence?
Posted By: Case321
Saw the uproar here recently about the use of CPA's favorite word, hooker. So I decided to try and find the origin of it. Like most folks I thought it had come from the Civil War as the local ladies would frequent the camp of General Joseph Hooker. Seems he was a fellow hobbyist and turned a blind eye torwards it and would partake in the fun himself. So based in that I never thought it to be that offensive a word, I choose not to use it here because the ladies here are companions not run of the mill street hookers. Can't wait for the backlash from that comment. As I dug a little deeper I found that that story is false, there have been records of that word referring to providers dating back to the 1500's the term hooker was originally coined to describe a thief and later morphed into describing the way a lady would "hook" her clients. Hell I've had a few reel me in hook line and sinker but I'm not complaining!! Lol! The word also appears in John Bartletts "Encylopedia of Americanisms" published in 1859. So now that we have had a little history lesson lets review, the term hooker while thought to be harmless word coined during the Civil War actually came from England in the 1500's and means thief. Now before I get flamed yes their are hookers out there, go to the crappy part of town or hit BP up and you can nail all the hookers you want. Just speaking for myself here but Hell no!! The ladies here are more than that, the ones I have met or chatted with here and in person are engaging and intelligent. Maybe I'm just lucky but my best experiences have been TER ladies. No thievery or BS, so bottom line yes there are hookers in every town but you won't find them here!! Let the flame war begin!!!!
and not all wives are sluts, some get paid by their husbands and are thus hookers. Some do fuck around on said husbands and are thus sluts, unless of course they get paid for it and then they go back to being hookers.
Glad y'all enjoyed the history lesson, not sure if wives are hookers or not. At least mine she gets paid but don't fuck. If ya figured in room and board and all the other crap versus time actually doing the deed no telling what I pay per hour, wish I'd found this hobby sooner. Point I was making is yes there is a certain stigma with a lady taking cash for services rendered, I just don't see hooker as a one size fits all term especially when used negatively. Again just my 2 cents
in fact, truth be told, he is a complete subbie mangina because all he does is eat them. He never fucks them. Then he lets them piss on him. What a 'tard.
Can't wait...looks even better than Santa told me it was going to be. WHAT...Santa's running this place?
Posted By: inicky46
in fact, truth be told, he is a complete subbie mangina because all he does is eat them. He never fucks them. Then he lets them piss on him. What a 'tard.
Wives are definitely hookers then, haha; or, as my favorite sex worker blogger says, "All pussy costs- it just depends on when and how you pay." For all of history, marriage has been based on economic security/survival- with the only exception being some modern Western marriages, hence te huge divorce rate.
I love the word whore- most heterosexual women are whores at sometime in life: whether directly negotiating sex acts for money, or whoring for a great meal/hotel/entertainment with a date, whoring to land a wealthier husband, etc. At least real whores are honest about taking your money, and upfront about how much of it they want. BUT yes- any woman who trades sexual favors in exchange for anything other than love/lust, is a whore. From the trophy wife, to the high end courtesan charging $1000/hour, to midrange escorts and street walkers.
Posted By: ChgoCPA
Hookers and Sluts?
Hookers get paid Sluts don't
We could try and define sugar babies and courtesans too...but since both get paid to fuck...they are hookers.
Wives...are sluts
Are you sure that I am not a "companion" of Dr Who and went back to 16th Century England and put the term hooker into existence?
Posted By: Case321
Saw the uproar here recently about the use of CPA's favorite word, hooker. So I decided to try and find the origin of it. Like most folks I thought it had come from the Civil War as the local ladies would frequent the camp of General Joseph Hooker. Seems he was a fellow hobbyist and turned a blind eye torwards it and would partake in the fun himself. So based in that I never thought it to be that offensive a word, I choose not to use it here because the ladies here are companions not run of the mill street hookers. Can't wait for the backlash from that comment. As I dug a little deeper I found that that story is false, there have been records of that word referring to providers dating back to the 1500's the term hooker was originally coined to describe a thief and later morphed into describing the way a lady would "hook" her clients. Hell I've had a few reel me in hook line and sinker but I'm not complaining!! Lol! The word also appears in John Bartletts "Encylopedia of Americanisms" published in 1859. So now that we have had a little history lesson lets review, the term hooker while thought to be harmless word coined during the Civil War actually came from England in the 1500's and means thief. Now before I get flamed yes their are hookers out there, go to the crappy part of town or hit BP up and you can nail all the hookers you want. Just speaking for myself here but Hell no!! The ladies here are more than that, the ones I have met or chatted with here and in person are engaging and intelligent. Maybe I'm just lucky but my best experiences have been TER ladies. No thievery or BS, so bottom line yes there are hookers in every town but you won't find them here!! Let the flame war begin!!!!
Many of use us the term hooker, but that does not necessarily have to be derogatory. I use it in more of a playful manner or for the uppity whores who think they are selling "time" as opposed to their bodies. They don't get arrested for being ladies and you are in mangina denial.
Actually John doesn't bother too much hell what can I say I'm just a schmuck who pays to fuck out of his league. Hence why I don't see hookers but companions. Well I have saw a hooker or two but def not the same. No I am not in mangina denial, and I'm not a WK. And honestly anyone who believes you are paying for time is stupid. I do enjoy nice conversation and the occasional connection you make but I'm not paying for time at the end of the day I'm buying the same fantasy every other guy here is. I just don't view a non mechanical provider who really takes care of her clients as a hooker (not in the negative usage anyways). A woman offering $10 blow jobs in alley yes the typical GFE provider no.
'the uppity whores who think they are selling "time" as opposed to their bodies.'
Have you met these uppity escorts to know they're actually uppity or did their ad and website content make you sensitive that you need to call them "uppity whores"?
I ask b/c i've known lots of escorts who proclaim via online channels (site, boards, etc) that they sell time rather than be indiscreet and blatantly say they fuck for money. That would be great evidence in court, as it's happened before....but I suppose that makes them uppity too...probably the same as ladies who charge more...they must be "uppity whores" rather than escorts that can only meet a few times month and need to make it profitable b/c that's the only time they can meet (to pay important bills). And then u have some ladies whose have dates that are mostly about time, you can't tell me an overnight/day booking with only 30 minutes of sex is just about sex for the dude, obviously he pays several thousand for her time mostly, so if it offends you, then blame the guys for paying for time, not just sex, or feel free to stick to calling these escorts "uppity whores" b/c tjey happened to attract theae time clients.
Judging people you've never even met and assuming an attitude about them is just silly
Why is that "uppity"? I don't sell or rent my body. Compensation for "skilled labor", companionship, personality, and beauty. Sex work is real work as per SWOP. Have a nice day.
Posted By: WondersOfTheWrld
'the uppity whores who think they are selling "time" as opposed to their bodies.'
Have you met these uppity escorts to know they're actually uppity or did their ad and website content make you sensitive that you need to call them "uppity whores"?
I ask b/c i've known lots of escorts who proclaim via online channels (site, boards, etc) that they sell time rather than be indiscreet and blatantly say they fuck for money. That would be great evidence in court, as it's happened before....but I suppose that makes them uppity too...probably the same as ladies who charge more...they must be "uppity whores" rather than escorts that can only meet a few times month and need to make it profitable b/c that's the only time they can meet (to pay important bills). And then u have some ladies whose have dates that are mostly about time, you can't tell me an overnight/day booking with only 30 minutes of sex is just about sex for the dude, obviously he pays several thousand for her time mostly, so if it offends you, then blame the guys for paying for time, not just sex, or feel free to stick to calling these escorts "uppity whores" b/c tjey happened to attract theae time clients.
Judging people you've never even met and assuming an attitude about them is just silly
The vocal few here would have me believe I am a walking pussy and that they are walking ATMs....but their reality will never be my reality of that of my clients.
Sex work is real work. I work as a professional who sells my time, effort, and affection. We all do. Go us!
But for some reason there's a contingent like yourself that can't come to grips with this reality.
Oh well...I guess it's easier to lie to oneself than accept the path they have chosen.
Fortunately most gals understand what this is...and you will too. Once you sober up.
Posted By: ChinaRose
The vocal few here would have me believe I am a walking pussy and that they are walking ATMs....but their reality will never be my reality of that of my clients.
Sex work is real work. I work as a professional who sells my time, effort, and affection. We all do. Go us!
Oh, I could name several uppity whores and a few more who just think they are. I never said it offended me, and I am far from sensitive. I just like to keep things a little more "real".
Just do me a favor. When you find a whore, hooker, lady of the night, escort, or prostitute who has been arrested and convicted for selling "time" do be kind enough to let me know.
we're all clear on that the arrest is for selling pussy, but doesn'tmean that it's not worth trying to be discreet and not post in every ad possible "yes, officer, I sell pussy...please add this as my official admissionfor court." No, some ladies will stick to publicly proclaiming they sell time simply for tact, presentation or whatever reason strikes their fancy. we all know what they're selling and so do they, so who cares if they say they sell time? They could post that they sell hats and i could care less.
Glad to hear you've actually met these uppity ladies and arent just ASSuming.
But I do know this. All the disclaimers in the world won't stop you from getting busted. There are lots of ways of being discreet, but if you have a web site advertising that you sell your time to men, along with the usual pictures, etc., that disclaimer does nothing except make cops and savvy mongers chuckle. It is worthless verbiage. But if it makes you feel better, what the hell. I'd say it does nothing but give you (and a few naive Johns) a false sense of security.
with ladies who choose not to verbalize in their ads that they "sell pussy". Why do u care? Like I said, we all know they sell pussy, it shouldn't matter how or why they choose to present it or claim they're uppity if they say they sell time, but feel free to agrue something when there's no reason...
Time, hats, therapy, cats, pussy...it really doesn't matter how it's presented is the point.
But you said, "doesn'tmean that it's not worth trying to be discreet and not post in every ad possible." That clearly implies it's not discreet unless you put in the useless disclaimer. Why do I care? This is a discussion board and I have an opinion. What's the problem with that? And, actually, it does "matter how or why they choose to present it" if they include language that's naive and a huge waste of time. Smart providers don't do this. Finally, I thought I made it clear I don't think any provider I've ever met is "uppity." So please don't imply I did. Clear?
Her question or insinuation was so retarded that it didn't warrant a direct answer. You as an AA woman may be curious, so you are welcome to PM me if you really need to have an answer and it is bothering you so.
Irrelevant, but your lack of reponse and stance that it's ok to address the women here in a way that you'd never do so with a racial group speaks a lot without you ever saying anything.
It's about the fact that some men here will disrespect the women in ways they would never disrespect any other group of people openly....but u would do that to the women here.... Good night.
My race would be irrelevant to the conversation...and you don't know me or my race....which again is irrelevant to the conversation of .someone calling u out about how u wouldn't address Black people as "uppity n*****" to their face, but obviously you would do that to the women here. If racial groups get that respect, why not the ladies?
...what matters is the attitude & intention of the person using it. someone could indeed call me a hooker in a loving or playful way, and i wouldn't be offended. someone could also call me a hooker with the intention of degrading or hurting me, and i'd likely be a bit upset. although i hesitate to use the word 'offended' because i find the use of that word to more often than be an annoying PC-police bullying tactic.
the word itself really doesn't bother me; the way it is used is what matters to me. however, by and large, the word seems to have taken on a negative connotation. i think you're likely better off using words like 'provider' or 'companion' (my personal favorite, primarily because of firefly) just to be on the safe side. but in and of itself, it doesn't have to be offensive.
...what matters is the attitude & intention of the person using it. someone could indeed call me a hooker in a loving or playful way, and i wouldn't be offended. someone could also call me a hooker with the intention of degrading or hurting me, and i'd likely be a bit upset. although i hesitate to use the word 'offended' because i find the use of that word to more often than be an annoying PC-police bullying tactic.
the word itself really doesn't bother me; the way it is used is what matters to me. however, by and large, the word seems to have taken on a negative connotation. i think you're likely better off using words like 'provider' or 'companion' (my personal favorite, primarily because of firefly) just to be on the safe side. but in and of itself, it doesn't have to be offensive.
Amen. It is the intent of a word not the word itself that makes it offencive. Same with any word really.
Why, she is still happily married, she was very sexually active before marrying ne, and she decided to be a sex worker. She fits everything you listed.
I'm a "John" or a "whore-monger"! I can't deny it; it's a succinct description of one of my favorite avocations. “Courtesan aficionado” has too many syllables to trip over, and it would needlessly confuse many current, public school graduates.
Custodial Engineer or Janitor; As long as the pay-check clears I don't think they really care.
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