Some ass hat's post in another thread got me thinking, about how absurd that was lol. 300 for an hour of GFE is the NATIONAL AVERAGE of what most hourly escorts charge, and now all of a sudden that's high? Some guys need to hobby overseas or stfu, like Udo does. Don't come on this board and yell at providers who charge more than you can afford, and accuse them of "having a high opinion of themselves." If anything, I have a high opinion of my vagina, and I am not renting it out 10 times a week for some lowballer to tear it up, when I can rent it out TWICE and attract guys I actually want to see lol. You know the type...guys who actually kiss us, go down on us, wash their ass, don't obsess over pops, take us to dinner, even if it is off the clock...those types.
Some of you need to educate yourselves that price does not equal worth, and very few women feel that way. Sure, there are some who will look down on any provider who charges even 50 bucks less than they do, but those providers are not the norm. If I can help a sista out, I will. If I know she can make more, I will gladly hook her up with guys who see her as more than a fk doll. Some of you are just pissed that you can't afford the price of ass, and want to bash any girl that does not charge truck stop prices. Well, just an FYI...the guys who are paying those rates, are GLAD she is not seeing guys like you lol.
Off to play now....
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who hate the fact that they have to pay for pussy. Plus, there are lots of cheap-asses. Combine those two things and you get whiners. It ain't that complicated. There are several gals I've seen and loved who have now priced themselves beyond what I'll pay. I'm not pissed. Shit, if you can fuck half as much and make the same income, or fuck the same amount and make twice as much, why should I get pissed? There's plenty of fine pussy out there in the $300-$500 range where I generally play. Live and let live.
Aww, I would have grandfathered you in! Even I do that much for past gents lol. You nailed my point, but some are not bitching about women who charge over 500, they are bitching about women who charge the AVERAGE price for GFE around the globe! That's your 100 dollar girl to those rare ones who charge 2k...the average is about 300. I could understand being a bit shocked at a grand, but 300? Get the fk out of here!
It's called inflation dumb asses, and all those extra taxes and expenses you are paying, well guess what..SO ARE WE! You want a nice hotel? Pay the rate or get it yourself, in your name, and explain that to your wife. You want a gal who is low volume or one that is a pretty safe bet at being so, at least? Again, pay the fkin rate or shut up about her smelling like latex because the poor thing has to bang 3 guys a day to make any freaking profit. You want that extra 20 min. over the hour without her having to take off? Well, if she made more money she could spend that extra time with EVERY client.
Some of these clowns make me want to hurl. P*ssy is and always will be A LUXURY ITEM. If you can't pay for it, use your hand or try your luck at the local watering hole. We are not running a damn soup kitchen here, so if you feel "financially raped," maybe you should find another hobby, like gardening. I hear it offers validation through production. There are men out there who have lost their jobs who WISH they could bitch about something as stupid as paying a hooker's rate! Get a clue, then get a life!
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it's not open-ended. I'd never expect to get the lower price forever.
When I raise my rates...I raise them. If some client doesn't want to pay them...OK, thanks for playing.
But if I "had" to grandfather some client because (s)he thinks they deserve it...I will probably loathe them not long down the road. Not when the rest of my clientele is paying my current rates.
Same in Hookerland. Pay the fucking rate...or find one that you can afford. It's not difficult.
And if the hooker does GF you...you know that she will be busy most of the time. And if you do see her...she will resent you for it.
I've seen many of my gal pals move on up the rate ladder. And honestly....I love seeing that. Means when I want to see them...they are less stressed due to "lower volume" and guys NOT bitching about rates.
Posted By: inicky46
it's not open-ended. I'd never expect to get the lower price forever.
With words like that. I admit I will grandfather really great clients and I mean really great, the rest, pay the going rate or respectfully fond someone else. Thanks, even though you rag on fat and old hookers sometimes, you seem to be a fair person.
Would you actually decline a grandfathering offer from a provider?
Yes or No.. Answer honestly...now...
Didn't you thump all the johnnie boys a while back for not negotiating, calling them suckers? Now girl wants to offer you a lower rate because she believes that the favor should be extended to a few whom she has seen before, and you are principally against it?
That's kinda flip flopping, ain't it?
When I negotiate it's over something that isn't a typical published amount. I never said (and you are more than welcome to peruse ALL of my prior posts) that I would negotiate an initial session for an hour where that price is published.
Being GF is not a negotiation. It is something that a hooker will offer if she raises her prices. And yep...I've been offered GF in the past...and always have declined it. For the reasons I posted regarding my own clients.
Now...if I am going to see a gal whose rates went up and I want something "special"...you bet I'll ask. But if all I want to do is an hour or two BCD...I will pay her the new rates...no issues.
Hope that makes sense...but that's just how I see this.
Posted By: CurlyW - Nats Fan
Would you actually decline a grandfathering offer from a provider?
Yes or No.. Answer honestly...now...
Didn't you thump all the johnnie boys a while back for not negotiating, calling them suckers? Now girl wants to offer you a lower rate because she believes that the favor should be extended to a few whom she has seen before, and you are principally against it?
That's kinda flip flopping, ain't it?
Negotiation, to me, is the process of getting a greater value while controlling the price.. So, if the girl is offering me the end effect of negotiation right off the bat, who am I to decline..
FWIW, I have been grandfathered and didn't see any difference in quality or attitude...
Now, in the past, I have forfeited steep discounts and paid her actual price...Like for e.g. this girl asked me if I can see her a little earlier than our scheduled appointment, like 7-8 days earlier, because she was short on rent, and offered me a huge discount. I just paid her what I was accustomed to paying her, as I felt terribly bad for her...
FWIW, I too never negotiate hourly rates, but if its a weekend (never done before), but overnight (done before) we have "talked" about compensation..
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Posted By: ChgoCPA
When I negotiate it's over something that isn't a typical published amount. I never said (and you are more than welcome to peruse ALL of my prior posts) that I would negotiate an initial session for an hour where that price is published.
Being GF is not a negotiation. It is something that a hooker will offer if she raises her prices. And yep...I've been offered GF in the past...and always have declined it. For the reasons I posted regarding my own clients.
Now...if I am going to see a gal whose rates went up and I want something "special"...you bet I'll ask. But if all I want to do is an hour or two BCD...I will pay her the new rates...no issues.
Hope that makes sense...but that's just how I see this.
Posted By: CurlyW - Nats Fan
Would you actually decline a grandfathering offer from a provider?
Yes or No.. Answer honestly...now...
Didn't you thump all the johnnie boys a while back for not negotiating, calling them suckers? Now girl wants to offer you a lower rate because she believes that the favor should be extended to a few whom she has seen before, and you are principally against it?
That's kinda flip flopping, ain't it?
I've never asked to be grandfathered. And I can only think of one occasion where it's been offered aand I've accepted it. That's from a provider. From my accountant? Hell, yeah! I'll take a real whore over an accountant any day. That goes for lawyers, too. The word "whore" is much too good for them.
Posted By: ChgoCPA
When I raise my rates...I raise them. If some client doesn't want to pay them...OK, thanks for playing.
But if I "had" to grandfather some client because (s)he thinks they deserve it...I will probably loathe them not long down the road. Not when the rest of my clientele is paying my current rates.
Same in Hookerland. Pay the fucking rate...or find one that you can afford. It's not difficult.
And if the hooker does GF you...you know that she will be busy most of the time. And if you do see her...she will resent you for it.
I've seen many of my gal pals move on up the rate ladder. And honestly....I love seeing that. Means when I want to see them...they are less stressed due to "lower volume" and guys NOT bitching about rates.
Posted By: inicky46
it's not open-ended. I'd never expect to get the lower price forever.
I'm guessing that there is an express elevator waiting for this minion...and it's going straight down.
Maybe that smiley face I posted will allow the elevator to pick up some hookers for the ride?
I have never had a problem taking care of those who have allowed me success thus far. I will still be giving TER props long after I retire, and referring new ladies to the men I have seen. I don't have to be IN the business, to promote it and take care of those who have taken care of me.
and experiences vary. It's not up to the client to set the price. The client just has to say yes or no. I admit there are those I'd like to see that are above my budget but I could be a millionaire & that might still be true.
Don't be an ass & complain... just move along!
that you had too start a new thread. Please keep going the hilarity continues!!!
There is nothing I get off on more, than kicking around a new mouse. If you're not the cat, you are the mouse. Just saying....
You are not the first, and I am sure you won't be the last dipshit to think your money matters...ha, it does not to me bwahhahahaa. Keep trucking, low baller. Maybe if you're lucky, you will get a loaf of bread next "session."
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keep calling me names... that makes you an adult
Classy man that lurks for BP gals who are cheap and have bad ratings. True.
Spend more and get a good experience my man. Many decent gals out there.
And I have learned a long time ago, don't ever think everything is about you. People can post... why does it need to be directly about you? Been around for a lil bit and sorry, but Miss Rayne has a big mouth and will tell you directly. Which she didn't on this post. So stop feeling guilty and either take part in the board nicely or go cry in your corner. We are all adults here.
Anal retentive is not becoming. Get a good f^ck and smile/be happy.
London, were you reading that thread on me? I swear to god that happened to me yesterday and today over $350 an hour, which has been my rate for almost a year now. It's fate that you happen to mention it. Thanks for that, it made me smile. Dude's pissed bc I never wanted to see him and thinks he should get to see exactly what I look like (by forcing me to post crystal clear face shots through forum board abuse) and judge how I run my business. Don't think so. Hell, people are lucky there are pictures at all! Back in the day it was just a crossing your fingers game and hoping for the best, lol.
It's just funny to me, no one is putting a gun to his head and yet he just can't seem to shut up about it and move on. I mean I declined him months ago and he's just now running around yelling about how I'm not his type. Now, I don't remember hitting on him or ever asking anything if I was his type. 
No girl, it was not about you but I am glad I was able to shed some light on your situation. I was more referring to certain dipshits who think their cheap asses matter on TER and in the grand scheme of things. They only matter to women for whatever reason, have to see them. Sucks to be them, I guess.
Does it make you feel like an adult to call people names? I'm not saying I've never done it, but I try not too. However, you seem to think it makes you somebody by calling people that disagree with you names. I've stated many times that I shop in my price range. Too you that makes me cheap. Too me that makes me financially responsible. I was incorrect when I said your raping me financially, because at the end of the day as another monger pointed out I don't have to pick you.
Do you really believe that YOU matter on TER?
Do I think I matter on TER? Well, sonny boy being my post has 23 "likes" on it, I would have to say many agree with ME lol. Go find your chew toy, now. You're beginning to bore me. You started this bs with your stupid comments in another thread that were directly aimed at both Grace and I. Fk you if we tell a newbie not to shop on backpage! The entire newbie board has that same phrase over, and over, and oooooooover again. You did not just state your preferences and move along...no, you had to bash other women who were out of your price range. Sucks to be broke I guess.
I will admit I am not a wealthy guy. I'm just a regular dude a wrench turning grunt so to speak. I hobby sporadically depends on how biz is going. Now I could just hit up a 100 BP girl every week or so or restrain myself and see a high quality gfe lady once a month or so. I've tried it both ways and the higher priced gfe is def the way to go!! There is something in this hobby for everyone, far chicks, thin chicks, black, white, Asian, Latino, and whatever else you can think of. Hell ya can probally find a red headed midget with big feet if that's you're thing. Also every price point you can find from a 10 dollar crack whore up to several grand an hour. So why all the bullshit? If a few hundred an hour isn't you're thing then don't see her. Nice post as usual Ms. London love you're way with words.
I think we both know that having the ability to spread your legs and give a blow job to completion can be accomplished at ANY rate. This is about guys trying to suggest that women who have worked hard for their rates or success, should not be given credit just because a "few" can't afford them. You don't see me bashing women who charge twice as much as I do. You know why? Because if I could GET those rates, I would already be fking doing it lol. Anyone thinking a lady is cheap because she loves her clients, is a fkin moron. Take that shit to the bank. I love my clients a hell of a lot more when I don't have to do a whore wash inbetween them.
Thanks London yeah it's pretty asinine for him to bitch about it. I would love to have a new Corvette but guess what not in my budget, so I don't have one. But I don't go around bitching at every person I see driving one. Takes all kinds to make the world go round I guess.
Posted By: London Rayne
Some ass hat's post in another thread got me thinking, about how absurd that was lol. 300 for an hour of GFE is the NATIONAL AVERAGE of what most hourly escorts charge, and now all of a sudden that's high? Some guys need to hobby overseas or stfu, like Udo does. Don't come on this board and yell at providers who charge more than you can afford, and accuse them of "having a high opinion of themselves." If anything, I have a high opinion of my vagina, and I am not renting it out 10 times a week for some lowballer to tear it up, when I can rent it out TWICE and attract guys I actually want to see lol. You know the type...guys who actually kiss us, go down on us, wash their ass, don't obsess over pops, take us to dinner, even if it is off the clock...those types.
Some of you need to educate yourselves that price does not equal worth, and very few women feel that way. Sure, there are some who will look down on any provider who charges even 50 bucks less than they do, but those providers are not the norm. If I can help a sista out, I will. If I know she can make more, I will gladly hook her up with guys who see her as more than a fk doll. Some of you are just pissed that you can't afford the price of ass, and want to bash any girl that does not charge truck stop prices. Well, just an FYI...the guys who are paying those rates, are GLAD she is not seeing guys like you lol.
Off to play now....
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LMAO!!! You're the barbie, babe.
I don't know about other guys out there, but I'm still amazed that I can climb into the sack with some of the most beautiful women in the country, for 300 bucks and walk out feeling like a king.....priceless, if ya ask me
Truthfully no matter what a lady charges there will always be some guy who thinks the amount is too high. Some of these guys are just cheap, some are crybabies, some think everything is priced too high, and some think they are special and deserve a discount.
There have been ladies whose ads I have seen that I would like to have a session with but their price point is outside my range. I don't bitch, I just move on.
Each lady sets her price based on supply and demand. Attracting a certain number of clients at a certain rate equals desired income. It baffles me that some guys can't recognize the business side for the ladies.
I would never criticize a lady for her price. If she can make the money she wants at her price then more power to her. Now I am curious as to how a guy thinks going on a public board and bitching about a ladies price is going to benefit him. To me that seems it would just cause other ladies to avoid him also.
Gee, is it possible you are a guy who might consider that just because we are hookers, we are also human? Why would ANY person wish for a woman to wear herself out to the point of exhaustion when she did not have to? Give me a fkin break lol. Thanks for posing, SC!
I imagine that no matter if guys like those were charged $50 for a hour of GFE they would find something to complain about. Personally I figure spending a little more allows a better experience since the lady is not as tired and can enjoy the session more than if she had already had 12 dates that day.
Wanna bet that guy has the same complaint about his electrician, plumber, mechanic and any other person who provides a service to him.
Just taking care of the ladies who take care of me. Hope your doing well sweetie.
a profit margin has to be considered.
Overhead is pretty high an its steadily increasing by the day.
I'm not whoring myself out for peanuts or to barely beak even.
It's not a matter of forcing a girl to lower/grandfather/never/barely increase her rates via the "supply and demand" principle because in the end, it's about profit margin and the " risk vs reward" analysis.
"There's no decent/reputable/hotties avail" or "Girls don't visit here" or "Has anyone seen so and so or her the so ad so girl" No...the risk va reward assessment keeps them away,
Jus sayin...
Well said. The provider set the price and you buy if you can afford it. Otherwise move on.
Your post just put a huge smile on my face.
Must have been Laffy or BigPapasan who posted that...
Posted By: London Rayne
Some ass hat's post in another thread got me thinking, about how absurd that was lol. 300 for an hour of GFE is the NATIONAL AVERAGE of what most hourly escorts charge, and now all of a sudden that's high? Some guys need to hobby overseas or stfu, like Udo does. Don't come on this board and yell at providers who charge more than you can afford, and accuse them of "having a high opinion of themselves." If anything, I have a high opinion of my vagina, and I am not renting it out 10 times a week for some lowballer to tear it up, when I can rent it out TWICE and attract guys I actually want to see lol. You know the type...guys who actually kiss us, go down on us, wash their ass, don't obsess over pops, take us to dinner, even if it is off the clock...those types.
Some of you need to educate yourselves that price does not equal worth, and very few women feel that way. Sure, there are some who will look down on any provider who charges even 50 bucks less than they do, but those providers are not the norm. If I can help a sista out, I will. If I know she can make more, I will gladly hook her up with guys who see her as more than a fk doll. Some of you are just pissed that you can't afford the price of ass, and want to bash any girl that does not charge truck stop prices. Well, just an FYI...the guys who are paying those rates, are GLAD she is not seeing guys like you lol.
Off to play now....
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Of course there will always be guys who don't treat it well because, "it's just a rental", and there will be others who will try to "rent to own", but in general, the business model could work.
Of course everyone would call the franchisee a pimp, but if you run the place yourself and have a good website, maybe it could work.
Posted By: London Rayne
Some ass hat's post in another thread got me thinking, about how absurd that was lol. 300 for an hour of GFE is the NATIONAL AVERAGE of what most hourly escorts charge, and now all of a sudden that's high? Some guys need to hobby overseas or stfu, like Udo does. Don't come on this board and yell at providers who charge more than you can afford, and accuse them of "having a high opinion of themselves." If anything, I have a high opinion of my vagina, and I am not renting it out 10 times a week for some lowballer to tear it up, when I can rent it out TWICE and attract guys I actually want to see lol. You know the type...guys who actually kiss us, go down on us, wash their ass, don't obsess over pops, take us to dinner, even if it is off the clock...those types.
Some of you need to educate yourselves that price does not equal worth, and very few women feel that way. Sure, there are some who will look down on any provider who charges even 50 bucks less than they do, but those providers are not the norm. If I can help a sista out, I will. If I know she can make more, I will gladly hook her up with guys who see her as more than a fk doll. Some of you are just pissed that you can't afford the price of ass, and want to bash any girl that does not charge truck stop prices. Well, just an FYI...the guys who are paying those rates, are GLAD she is not seeing guys like you lol.
Off to play now....
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I'm going to figure out how and then go "like" about 90% of all your posts, London. It's so refreshing to see a lady here straight-talking the guys who need a blow-up doll.
I feel like a total fangirl. Can I book with you, just to sit around and make fun of everything hooker/hobby-related?? Rent-a-mockery, instead of rent-a-vagina....
You'll have to come to Nola though, because my touring days are over with.
Clients try to negotiate when it is clearly written on mine and other ladies sites.... Prices are non-negotiable. It's my vagina and first of all it's priceless but if i do choose to put a price on it...How dare you try to haggle and negotiate on what you think may be a "better" deal. Not only is it insulting but it's demeaning. How dare you try to tell me what I'm worth?
And as far as the negotiating.... You don't go to McDonald's and order a Happy Meal ($4.99) and say "sorry i only have $2.50....Do you think they are gonna say "well you look like a nice guy sure here ya go"...No they won't...But if they do decide to take your offer guess what..You're only getting the fries and the Burger...No Toy!!!....Meaning if a lady did accept your offer I'm sure you wouldn't be completely satisfied with what you got then if you paid for the original price and got the complete Happy Meal.
This isn't Let's Make A Deal...It's the Price is Right.
If you don't like the price at which I'm selling....Buy someone else, There are far too many ladies out there for people to get upset over prices. IMO the only reason someone would even publicly bash someone on her prices is because his feelings are hurt because he really wanted to see her and she rejected his offer. If you can't afford her...move on..Don't bash her for having pride in herself and not lowering herself to anyone else's standards!
Please forgive all my analogies but I feel that I have to put it into Laments terms for a select few
