Here's the situation, and I've been in it myself with salons, masseuses, etc.
A client comes to see me, has a great time so he decides to leave a tip. He's happy, I'm happy, we're all happy. A few weeks later he books again. Now he's wondering, "huh...do I tip her again this time? Same amount? What if I have a better time than the 1st time, do I tip her more? If I tip her less, does she think I don't like her as much, had a worse time than the 1st?" You see, he has complicated the relationship. He now feels as if he needs to tip me every time to not look like a cheapskate. He has up-sold himself. All other clients are paying me "x" but he feels obligated to pay me "y". Instead of excitement and anticipation for our next date, he is nervous about offending me and unsure of what to bring. I am using the 2nd date as an example, but this can happen on the 3rd, 4th, 10th, 17th, etc. I set my rates at what I feel comfortable receiving for the given date. I do not expect any more than what is posted. Leaving the requested amount is a win-win situation. There is one exception: special dates such as holidays, birthdays, etc where you can state "I left you a little extra for Christmas" or "I wanted to give you something for your birthday". That way it is not expected the next time.Early in my hobby career I was told by more seasoned parties that I should not tip the providers I visit.
The logic was that you do not tip lawyers, doctors or other highly paid individuals.
Thought was that once you pay $400+ for your session you have paid enough.
Recently I was reading the website of a provider that I like alot and she mentioned that a tip is always good practice.
Is there a consensus? Is there an official best practice?
...how to search old threads, especially on the Newbie board. Here is what you would have found...
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s to be expected I guess everyone has their own policy concerning this.
But the lesson here is that if she mentions tips on her website and is also an excellent provider then you should certainly tip if you expect to repeat
When I brought this up before the answer I got most from providers is they didn't expect a tip and would rather have the repeat business.
I originally asked about higher priced rates. I have generally tipped but seems that gals who charge "a lot" wouldn't really expect it with a very high rate.
It's your money, do what you want.
There are no rules on the emotional exchange between a provider and a client, if she exceeded your expectations, make the donation appropriate for the service, regardless of the agreed upon price.
There is no consensus, some people are all about the money, whether provider or client, always pushing to get more money, or more time and service for less money, and expecting to be grandfathered in forever at an initial low price.
There is, however, an official best practice for the client: Be kind and generous, and you will have great new adventures, and plenty of providers willing to see you.
is a poor example. Your lawyer or doctor will actually be offended if you try to tip him/her.. Your provider wouldn't be...
With few exceptions on both sides.
If the agency provider was sub par, she will get no tip. An independent provider may get a tip if she goes above and beyond the call of duty such as extra time or extra services.
If the agency provider was sub par, she will get no tip. An independent provider may get a tip if she goes above and beyond the call of duty such as extra time or extra services.
I actually agree with everything you said and is pretty much how I was going to say it.
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Here's the situation, and I've been in it myself with salons, masseuses, etc.
A client comes to see me, has a great time so he decides to leave a tip. He's happy, I'm happy, we're all happy. A few weeks later he books again. Now he's wondering, "huh...do I tip her again this time? Same amount? What if I have a better time than the 1st time, do I tip her more? If I tip her less, does she think I don't like her as much, had a worse time than the 1st?"
You see, he has complicated the relationship. He now feels as if he needs to tip me every time to not look like a cheapskate. He has up-sold himself. All other clients are paying me "x" but he feels obligated to pay me "y". Instead of excitement and anticipation for our next date, he is nervous about offending me and unsure of what to bring. I am using the 2nd date as an example, but this can happen on the 3rd, 4th, 10th, 17th, etc.
I set my rates at what I feel comfortable receiving for the given date. I do not expect any more than what is posted. Leaving the requested amount is a win-win situation.
There is one exception: special dates such as holidays, birthdays, etc where you can state "I left you a little extra for Christmas" or "I wanted to give you something for your birthday". That way it is not expected the next time.
I think you nailed it DK! Have you worked as a clinical psychologist?
however, I will bring a gift. If a provider has a "gift" section on her website, I'll take a look at it. If not, I'll bring things like candles, a gift card, or a bottle of wine. I'll drop it off with the donation at the beginning of the session.
and always try to bring a small gift, something that seems to fit the woman and the situation!
I think the issue, particularly for newbies, is the subtle pressure of reading "while tips are not expected always appreciated". I see you have no such language on your website - so your expectations of the us gents is clear.
Although I've never seen one before , nor ever will, my thought is that if it's an agency girl, you tip because 30%-40% is going to the agency. However, with independent ladies, they can set their rates and if they are asking $200/hr or $800/hr, then that's what they want and can get, so that's what you pay.
Early in my hobby career I was told by more seasoned parties that I should not tip the providers I visit.
The logic was that you do not tip lawyers, doctors or other highly paid individuals.
Thought was that once you pay $400+ for your session you have paid enough.
Recently I was reading the website of a provider that I like alot and she mentioned that a tip is always good practice.
Is there a consensus? Is there an official best practice?
In my opinion, any woman who cannot get more than 300 and still provides gfe with msog in a damn hour, deserves a tip. In some areas, women simply cannot command higher rates regardless of looks and service, so I feel they deserve a little extra. I know I would never fk a guy and offer 2 plus cups for peanuts, but some women have no choice based on a few variables. IMO, they deserve credit for what they provide, because they really don't have to.
That guys will tell you not to tip and a provider would suggest that you DO tip. While I do tip some agency girls I never tip indies. $300 or more for an hours work is good money.
For the record, there are no "rules" and there is nothing "official" about much of anything in the hobby. Do your research, treat the ladies fairly and don't get caught...
Tipping is a topic that gets raised far too much on these boards.
Is there a consensus? Is there an official best practice?