What exactly is a k-girl? and what makes her different from any other provider?
Which makes her different from any other provider who is not Korean. Plus in LA full GFE for $250 an hour. Similar to LA, K-girls in other cities would give as good or better GFE service at better price than the average rate of other providers.
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That would be because they are more popular given quality of the lady, service and price. And volume would vary depending upon the girls, but I don't ask about the daily count when I visit because I'm not as obsessed about it as you are.
I think what he means is that after the 10th guy the service won't be as well.
I suspect it's possible (when I was in HS a couple of girls made a bet about who could do more guys, I think they did about 50 guys that night) that it happens but don't think that's the norm. It also assumes that most are opting for the shorter (45) sessions rather than 60 or longer.
Nobody with any class is going to ask a girl for her daily "count", but given the shift is twelve hours in most cases,, its pretty easy to figure out how many clients a full schedule consists of.
was sarcasm. And thanks for the math lesson and IV story. Very classy.
The OP started out "newbie here", asking very basic questions that may be common knowledge to established hobbyists. Someone obvously uniformed or inexperienced challenged BigP's numbers. Was just trying to educate. We can be sarcastic know-it-alls on this forum, or we can be helpful to new members who are just learing the business. You and I obviously disagree over how we want to be perceived. There is room for all types, both the helpful and sarcastic, and the members will decide who is worth reading. Go in peace.
Yes there's room for all types of know-it-alls.
Not claiming I know it all. Have been hobbying four to six hours a week since 2008 and have had a few working girls as outside girlfriends, but I'll be the first to admit there may be a FEW things about the business that I don't now, so I keep an open mind to learn new things and try to tactfully educate those that may be in error, but don't realize it. Always willing to help Newbies and answer questions.
If Harpman60's one post is considered 'evidence', it's totally on thin ice, especially when BigPPS always accused him of full of BS anyway.
Here's my more rational explanation:
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=4272&boardID=113&page=1#427
"By K-girl standards 5-6 clients is a slow day. 8-9 is a good day."
Besides, Mr. BigPPS, you always said Harpman is full of BS anyway, so why pick this one to promote.
BigPapasan is correct. SOME do up to 11 a day, but can't sustain that volume for more than a few days. I knew one girl a few years ago that was very popular and did 11 a day in a 15-hour shift for a week and ended up in the hospital dehydrated on an IV drip, so I wouldn't recommend trying it. The average K-girl considers eight one-hour guests to be a full day, and six a slow day, just like BigP says. There are, of course, variables. Not all appointments are eight hours, and not all bookers give a half hour break between appointments, so it is possible to squeeze a ninth or tenth in during a 12-13 hour shift if some of the appointments were two hours or half hours. If you've ever been offered a xx:15 or xx:45 appointment time, then somewhere along the way that day, the girl only got a 15 minute break between appointments.
a 1215, 130 or 245 appointment time meant she was getting a 15 minute break. You've proven you're as knowledgeable and discrete as Assman60. Now we know there's at least three guys keeping count.
I have no idea who Assman60 is, so your reference is lost on me. Care to explain?
Or are you the self-appointed court jester and this was some kind of an inside joke?
Harp used to be a prolific poster. He was an ass.
For example, the typical K-Girl service (in a house as opposed to an AMP) begins with a shower where she climbs in too and soaps you up. Once you are clean, she rims you. Then it's back to the bedroom. Also, K-Girls tend to be somewhat submissive.
to suggest every guy is getting rimmed. When/if it happens it's generally not going to happen in the shower or bathroom. Asian = submissive = stereotype.
I had no idea Asians were known to be submissive. You gents taught me something new.
kind of like, blonds are dumb
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So basically I'm a latin K-girl. I do all of that and more. Not trying to sell myself here by no means. But it's crazy how things work. I was a foot stand once for crying out loud LOL more submissive then that, I guess I need classes lol. So the Bellvinie 30 isn't doing it for them is what you are saying? lol I have to be Korean lol. I can't deny Korean women are beautiful so no surprise there
Thank you for the info, different strokes for different folks but if everyone is having fun it's worth it.
Many of the top LA girls tour to Portland and Seattle, where the same girls get $300/hr, so we have it really good here because of the intense competition holding prices down.
Alot of over generalization going on.
First, my ATF, Korean, is far from submissive.
Want to know the truth, Piss one off.
You state you have been a foot stand. Not saying you cant fine a korean that wont but I've never seen it.
Do they see 11 guys, like that link states.
I'm sure there are some out there that have and do but they are few and far between.
No, not all offer rimming but sure, some do if you want it.
Some even have it in there script but just tell them no if it is not your thing.
Kgirl service, "Tends" to be more involved and less rushed then the average indy.
That doesn't mean all, like you state but most and at a less expensive rate.
Why?, I do not pretend to know the answer to that, I just know they are.
I will state though, I just saw a Lovely Latina a couple of weeks ago and her service was quite good.
I enjoyed my time with her thoroughly and will see her again when she is in town.
According to your profile, you are in NY
If you ever get to SF/SJ, look me up as you look HOT
(Blushing) Thank you for that detailed explanation. Board members have educated me so much this week. A script, yeah not my thing. And yes I was a foot stool.....it was pretty fun. I always fancied myself as Ethen & Allen Furniture anyway. 
While most have a script they run through, the first thing I do is derail it, and most have no problem with doing that.
This is one of the reasons k-girls are so popular, versatile.
They have a very good script for those guys that just want to nut and run but...
If like me, the guy enjoys GFE outside of just a BBBJ and Daty and actually takes the time to get to know them a little, and makes the session mutually enjoyable, it is much better because the girls go the extra mile.
by that, I mean passion, sensuality and making it feel real.
I've lost track of how many times I have left a kgirls appt and felt like she actually likes me. (I know she doesn't, but that's the feeling the good one provide).
Gia, the Latina I just saw was like that too (The feeling) but she had no script at all, just loads of fun and nice chitchat afterwards. which is why I will see her again when she is in town next.
Agree absolutely
Like most have stated...
K-girls are Korean. They offer GFE. Most will DFK, BBBJ (not all will do this), and over all will make sure you are the center of attention.
They will do the shower thing and tend to your needs. They want to make you happy. So you have a great experience. Not like some indy's all they want is your cash and get you off ASAP.
Most K-girls you go to or see will make sure you are with them your entire allotted time.... Example if you pay for 1 hour.... and pop in 20 mins.... they typically will try to get you off again in the remaining 40 mins. Of lets say you pop after 50 mins..... they will make sure you spend the rest of your hour talking, cuddling, etc. They won't just expect you to leave.
That is why I think many of us like going to the K-girls. It seems more GFE and genuine.
That is my experience.
My poor poor friend, only K-girls give you that service? Which non k-girl provider traumatized you? (Rhetorical question) I'm not even going to take it as a reflection but what I will say is you are not looking in the right places. I'll even be fair I won't even tell you "oh see me" I can name 5 providers that will give an amazing time off the top of my head. They will have you thinking for days (that within itself is a skill, a skill not even be whose a bit out there and amorous posse)
As far as the cash....It ain't even worth it to me (personally) ...clients coming with dogs, leaving their kids with me, foot stool, ponyplay at this point the donation is secondary. There's just a line you cross that $ can't buy and when you cross it, its like ah well.
First is first MEN you are giving a donation EVERY provider should treat you amazing. The experience is yours. Let me give a man a donation regardless of the ethnicity and he not please me the way I want him too. "I have you for 90mins and I gifted you, you better be around me at all times and if i came and there's 30 minutes on that clock you better make me a sandwich and get me the paper."
So yea....but if Asian girls are your thing I can understand.
Oh... I know there are good providers. But sometimes it takes multiple visits to get that rapport with them. It also depends if you are looking on back.... or if you are using this site and doing research.
But yes I have had more misses than hits with providers that are not K-girls. I have had homeruns with all of the K-girls I have been with
I understand, we like to stick with what we know will work. I get that
To me:
1. K-girls are girls from Korea (not K-American-girls).
2. K-girls generally work in an AMP or apartment set-up.
3. I can't think of any K-girl that I know or whose reviews I have read who is 100% indy. An indy Korean or K-American is more like any other indy, regardless of ethnicity, and does her own thing. Therefore, if she's indy, in my book, she's not a K-girl except in the ethnic sense.
4. Whether it's an AMP (KMP) or house or other set-up, it tends to be somewhat formulaic but GOOD formulaic. Unlike visiting a true indy-girl (of any ethnicity), where there may be a lot of YMMV despite reviews, when you go to an established K-place, you know what you are going to get. If you don't get it in the first 5 minutes, just relax, it will come ... and so will you.
5. To me, many of the K-girls are among the most beautiful, sensuous, sensual, pleasant, pleasing, (add more good things here) girls I have ever met.
Standard service varies by region. AMPs in NYC are different from AMPs in Rhode Island or Massachusetts and I've never indulged on the west coast. Standard AMP service in NYC is non-GFE whereas in LA it seems (from reviews) that standard service is GFE. In NYC, the "GFE option" is often, but not always, available with individual K-girls and that is closer to LA standard service. Upscale NYC service is GFE or GFE+ (or GFE+++!!!) and some upscale K-girls offer PSE. (NYC has several different levels of AMP and above.)
Because it's so formulaic, you AND she know pretty much what an hour entails. Even though "10 or 11 a day" sounds like a lot (and it is a lot!), hard core service is just a fraction of the hour in a formula NYC setting. I'm not saying it's easy, but it's not one solid hour of banging wall to wall. Also, in NYC, many AMPs are 24/7. A "shift" is 5-7 days and she lives, sleeps and eats at the place during that whole time. (More popular K-girls can negotiate a shorter shift, maybe 3 days or threaten to move to another AMP.) NYC is the City That Never Sleeps. I have done some late-night R&R and, if the phone girl answers, she can decide to wake someone up from their nap and see who is interested. So 10-11 / day in NYC AMPs is 10-11 / 24 hours, not 10-11 / 12 hours, I think.
EDIT: I am guessing that the AMP or apartment or spa environment relieves some of the stress that indies might have. There is on-site security. Everything is provided. There are ALWAYS plenty of clean towels, soap, cleaning supplies, food, snacks, K-girl friends when you need them close by (and sometimes too close when you don't want them close by!), service supplies, a Mamasan or phone girl to fall back on for help (or some mean mamasans are worse than no help). Although working for someone else, the AMP setting means less to worry about and only the need to worry about yourself and the next client. I think adds to the K-girls' ability to make me happy if she doesn't have to worry about all the other details.
All I know is, that I love the K-girls. My two all-time faves are K-girls (one AMP, one high end). Despite the language barrier, they could read my mind, connect, put me at ease, and ... I don't know ... make me feel that they loved me back, for an hour at a time.
I've had many great non-K-girl experiences, too, but K-girls get lumped into a group and indies are, well, indies.
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I'm glad you found the providers you like I get it. If it works why fix it.
The upscale Asian incalls are unbelievable. They are not for the faint of heart or wallet. They are like meeing a Victoria secret model at the waldorf Astoria. I often book two hours and bring a little bottle of wine and some chocolates and flowers. The ladies are exquisite. There was one I dated like a sugar daddy for about 9 months she was like 24 and Im now 47. I stopped seeing her b/c I couldn't handle my kids my job and my wife and her. ( my wife by the way is /was a K girl ....American born in her 40s who at her peak of looked like the best of the upscale K girls. Im addicted. Also a lot of these K girls are very spoiled and often unfortunately not too bright.