I saw your profile recently, looked at your website and reviews. When everything looks outstanding, as in your case, I'm ready! Unfortunately, your visiting schedule at the time didn't work with mine, but now I'm just waiting for the next opportunity.
In other words, my choices depend upon ladies visiting my area, or trips I make to theirs. I research TER and other sites, look for the top women in performance and appearance, and narrow the field by factors such as availability, menu, and yes, donation somewhat ( but my reviews show a pretty wide range). Ladies who screen with p411 and/or date-check have an edge, too.
In my "official TER capacity", I look at lots of pictures and profiles. Some make me wince when I think that they can manage to get gents to contact them. Still others make me wish I had unlimited funds and a private jet. I realize that everyone has their own version of attractive, so this isn't about that. Actually it's wonder about what gets the guys here to initiate contact. Put differently, I've seen ladies ads where I find her attractive and she's so busy that she can't find the time for me. Others complain that they don't get many calls. It must not be looks, although that's tough for me to fathom since guys are visual creatures. These are all ladies with more than one page of solid reviews and full menus.
looks initiate contact. the problem is, with plenty of experience outside the hobby, but no experience in the hobby, it's only chemistry that keeps it going. and chemistry seems to have no correlation whatsoever to anything! one of the things that interests me as a newbie to the hobby is the possibility of paying to play, then walking away. but the question you ask is still the main point, unless you're a guy that just hits anything that moves.
...that I almost feel unworthy to comment. But I'm a bigmouth, so here goes. I started by going to the Reviews section. First thing I'd do is click on the link to the provider's web site or ad. If she looked like my type I'd go back to the review and read several, if not all, and learn the reviewers' names. Then save the reviews to "Favorites." The first girl I saw (and saw her again for the second time tonight) I discovered here and more about her on BGFE. Found some pix from when she worked in NYC before going solo. Loved them. Convinced her to see me and I'm a happy guy. I really liked the old days when you'd read an ad in one of the sex tabloids, get buzzed into the house and check out a bevy of girls before picking out the one you liked best. I'm a bug for certain things and I'd often politely say "Thanks but not tonight," if I didn't see anything that turned me on. Then I'd march across the street and see if the grass was greener. If it wasn't, I'd swallow my pride and go back to the first place. Who knows what might have shown up in the meantime. The whole parade was so much fun! I was like a kid in a candy store. Today, it's all about the pictures and reviews and there are still a few incall henhouses, or so I hear. Bottom line, for me it all starts with the pix but only ends with a well-reviewed girl. Hope this is what you were looking for.
have a chance to play I look for the hottest proider I can find in the area I will be in. "Hottest" is defined as attractive with great performance indicated by reading several of her reviews. Sometimes a lady will get my attention by what she posts on the local board and then I look for a chance to meet her.
Like most, I have to stay within my hobby budget as well.
It's how she communicates that makes or breaks it for me. that's where the tell lies. I have a "look" I go for but ultimately it's the intelligence animating the aesthetic I appreciate.
I saw your profile recently, looked at your website and reviews. When everything looks outstanding, as in your case, I'm ready! Unfortunately, your visiting schedule at the time didn't work with mine, but now I'm just waiting for the next opportunity.
In other words, my choices depend upon ladies visiting my area, or trips I make to theirs. I research TER and other sites, look for the top women in performance and appearance, and narrow the field by factors such as availability, menu, and yes, donation somewhat ( but my reviews show a pretty wide range). Ladies who screen with p411 and/or date-check have an edge, too.
Timing - I've called some ladies to arrange a meeting like 3X - 5X and it never materialize since they are occupied or busy with something.
Service offered - And sometimes when I contact them, I think twice when they say - I only do 'Covered BJ' or 'no kissing'.
Type - Ladies with perfect photoshop photos may also not be all that perfect when you get to meet them, so it does not automatically make them a No. 1 choice. Some girls are pretty and fit, but if their sensuality is not communicate in the picture or their ad, well no matter how visual men are ... it's not all visual. It's also about the sensuality conveyed. I've had 9s that did nothing much for me, and 5s that got me so horny. The Love Goddess say it's the chemicals /phermones that goes beyond the visual/physical. Some guys like thin and some like it thick, while some have almost no preference. Some guys like aggressive and some like less aggressive ladies. I had a friend once who said he didn't like pretty women, because they had too much ego and would prefer 7s LOL.
Reviews - some reviews are great. But then it also makes some ladies more predictable. Reviews are great for newbies. For those who have hobbied for a while, they crave for some challenge. I'm not saying the reviews are not intriguing - they are. But I have some friends here who have always been thrilled looking for UTRs with no reviews or just word of mouth. In short, some guys are into safety and some guys are into the challenge of TOFTT.
Many factors causing guys to meet ladies. It's interdependent causations or karmic occurences that gets you to meet the ladies you're with.
And, I'm with you regarding wondering how some of the ladies get men to see them, based on their pics., especially on the postings on the local boards. But, it's their availability that makes it a done deal. I have very limited windows of opportunity, so a lady has to be close, available on short notice, and have a ton of positive reviews. Because of these requirements, my list of prospects is rather short, and repeat visits are the norm.
Very true. The gal I've been seeing has it all; hot body, filthy mind, tremendous enthusiasm. Even better, she's cool, smart, reads a lot and loves words in general. When you get the whole package it's amazing! But beware, that's also when you can do the stupid old John trick and fall for her!
It is an interesting question. At the first level if it clicks it clicks. Many experiences have been just this simple. At a second level and this often results in returns just how the session pans out. Here many factors are at work. One case the sex was standard but the rapport fantastic. Another the exact opposite. Yes just the adventure and experience make the whole thing a joy
For me, there is no one answer. It is a chance to embrace and explore the variability of women. While I have standards of what I'm looking for on a visual level, that has flexibility based on other criteria.
Is she funny? It is hard to have a bad time in bed when you are getting some while being amused.
Are there common interests? Genuinely interesting conversation between rounds is a major plus.
Particular specialties? Does the lady focus one a particular thing that intrigues me at that time?
Attitude towards sex? An enthusiastic and open minded 7 in looks beats a bored and uninterested 10 in looks.
Certain scenarios would require ladies that fit the bill. If (just making this up) you wanted to have your Gilligan's Island fling with Mary Ann, a country accent and girl-next-door looks would work better than a glamorous Ginger.
So for me, it isn't all about the "most beautiful" on an abstract scale. It is about the overall experience. That can wander all over the place depending on my mood. To be statistical about it, I would probably say that I have a bell curve of what I am looking for in terms of looks. Certain sets of attributes (or their relative lack) can be offset by others. Or sometimes you get both. It all varies. And isn't that the point of leaving monogamy behind?
Even with all the bad press BP gets here, it's really the only place I start. I always go back and forth to TER for verification & reviews but once in a while I'll take one for the team. I like thin spinners in their 20s so I just cruise through BP to find one that fits the bill for me. I haven't had any bad experiences, of course some times are better than others and as far as the whole bait and switch, I've had it happen a few times but if the switch is still relatively close to the pics, I'm OK with it. I guess the answer to your question is appearance and perceived "sex appeal".
My first step in the elimination process is nationality. I love Asian, Brazilian and Latino women so I limit my "shopping" to those ethnic groups. Secondly I prefer small, short girls. Thirdly I prefer dark haired women. Once those criteria are met I look for good reviews or a good web site. I recently saw an un-reviewed gal who is relatively new to the business and had a great time with her. It was her TER ad on my regional board that got my attention and her pictures on her website that sealed the deal for me. OK, her discounted introductory rate didn't hurt!
I've seen quite a few ladies over the years who had no TER reviews and been very satisfied with the results. Good reviews always help but not all good providers want to participate here. I won't eliminate a gal from consideration over a lack of TER presence.
Whenever someone initially contacts me requesting that first date, I always wonder what made them decide on me. Not that I don't think I'm pretty super but there are a lot of gorgeous and talented ladies in Atlanta, so I am always curious as to what it was exactly about me that gave me the edge.
Great question - and some very insightful responses. For me, a good experience is a combination of a woman that I feel physically attracted to and one who is bright, easy to talk with and pleasant to be with. What are the two things that I look for? Pictures (and description) of a woman that is "my type" and a sense that she has a personality that I would enjoy spending time with.
I am happy to say that although I am still relatively new, I have not yet had a negative experience. I enjoy browsing the discussion broads, both general and local. When a particular post, response or comment or provider ad catches my eye, I go to her TER reviews page, read her description, and if it is someone that I think I might enjoy spending time with, open her website and ads, browse her photos and read how she describes herself. I travel to different cities for business a few times each year and if someone has caught my eye in a city that I know I will be visiting, I read the reviews, and, if I want to go to the next step, contact her, even though the visit may be a few months off in the future. Sometimes I will PM a fellow hobbyist who has written a review with a specific question or for a general impression (thank you to those who have responded to my inquiries. It has been helpful to me).
In one case, I actually wrote to a provider in a city that I would have never thought my travels would take me to. I commented positively about her comment in a thread which touched me personally. She wrote back, and we communicated a few times on the topic, and got to know each other a bit, without any expectation that we would actually ever meet. Unexpectedly, a few months later, I found myself traveling to her city. We met for what was for me, and I hope for her, a very lovely date and one of my more memorable hobby experiences.
In a number of instances, it was an ad and pictures on perf411 in a city I was going to that caught my eye. I only followup with women who list TER reviews, which ultimately led to my contacting her and a very nice session together.
I hope that this is helpful, Little Phil, to you, to fellow hobbyists, and maybe even to some providers who are curious as to how some of us find you.
There are ladies that have mostly 9/10's but still cant manage their business. And that IMHO at some point will start to affect how many calls she continues to get. If I have trouble contacting a lady once or twice and meet with her anyway because she has great reviews, Odds are I will not become a regular even if I had a great time. Id rather find a lady who performs well and conducts herself professionally, that is a 9/10, if I'm choosing a regular. I am paying why settle for looks and performance alone. To me a lady that is conducting her own business and not living from call to call is much sexier then one that is. Doc
Number one factor is can I properly screen them. If I can't verify they are safe I will not even contact them. Many ladies feel the same about us men. Being able to make sure there safe is the key.
But before that there has to be something that attracts me to her. What attracts me seems to be kind of random looking back at the ladies I have seen. I have booked site unseen based on phone conversations alone. (She was screenable despite being her first time providing.) I seen one lady just because she was very pregnant. I chose anther because I wanted to see what it was like to bed someone in the 300LB+ club like I am. I am attracted to all kind of women. I will book if I am physically attracted or even just mentally attracted. Brains are sexy. What I am looking for also greatly depends on my mood both looks, personality and service wise.
In the end the only consistent thing in who I pick is that I can make sure she is safe.
Lots of pregnant ladies work. She didn't have a pimp. We even had several mutual friends. She like her job even though she planed to retire as soon as the baby was born. She even had a job all lined up, where she was moving to. She just need some money to get there that my visit provided. I would not visit anyone I thought I was hurting in any way.
...Well, yes, Cleo, in a perfect world that would be true. But as you well know, we live in a far from perfect world and our particular part of it has some seamy sides. In a perfect world I might meet you in a bar (and, boy, am I bad at that!), where you'd see me and think, "What an incredibly handsome and sexy 65-year-old man that is! I must meet him and figure out how to have my way with him." Could that happen? I suppose. Would it? Well, I'm not a bad looking guy (though no one has compared me to George Clooney lately, except maybe that I talk too much!) but it's hard for me to believe it would. So I'll settle for imagining us meeting the way folks on this site usually meet. And, if that happens, I'll be happy it did. However, I do appreciate the empathy you feel for this woman.
for putting me at my place in such a cute way I deserved it I just had a mental picture of the pregnant lady on tv yesterday who seemed so nice... If I could I would have asked her to move in with me. I'm far from being a saint I have my own twisted sides too, I just don't share them with yall that's the only difference
We all have twisted sides. Geez, you should see me when there's a full moon. I start to howl at it, like Nabokov's Humbert, of whom he wrote "it was still a nymphet's scent that in despair I tried to pick up, as I bayed through the undergrowth of dark decaying forests." Aw shit! Now I've gone all literary. Spank me!
Most of we independent ladies enjoy this job and the personal and financial freedom it provides. Why does our employment choice suddenly become something "sad" when we're pregnant? Without knowing her situation, motivation, needs, etc., it really is quite wrong to moralize about her choice of profession. To me that's like saying it's sad that a woman doesn't quit any job once she becomes a mother; I thought the mutual exclusivity of motherhood and having a career was a thing of the past!
Besides, I've known women that for whom staying home with their spouses instead of working would have been pure torture. Me, I get bored so easily, unless medically necessary I probably wouldn't be staying home with ANYONE while pregnant, spouse or not. I pity the poor guy who would have to keep me entertained all those months.
and I do not blame anyone for their feelings on the matter, but I thought I would add my experience to the pile for what it is worth.
Before having sex with a pregnant provider, I considered myself to be the last person on earth who would do such a thing. After all, who wants to have sex with the kid right there?
When my wife was pregnant, sex was off the table, and I never questioned that. It just seemed like the proper thing.
Now, some years down the road, I contact a favorite whom I hadn't seen for several months and come over. She says that she had a surprise for me. You've probably guess it: She was about six months preggers. I was shocked. I fumbled for words, and tried to explain that I didn't think this was right. She said come on, give it a try; she was extremely horny to boot. We started slowly with some kissing and cuddling and massage, then it hit me like a ton of bricks, I saw her round belly as the most gorgeous thing I could imagine. We humped like bunnies and she orgasmed like I never saw her.
She was very grateful to me for this as her business was off over 70% owing to her pregnancy. I saw her nearly weekly up to the last month, when she thought it wise to stop.
Since then, I've had sessions with two other pregnant providers and both were great as in the first case, and I'll very gladly engage again.
It's not for everyone I'll concede, but my take of a perfect world is where people get to engage in what they want free of misconceptions and preconeptions about what they should and should not do.
By the way, as for position, we did a combination of doggy and then with her facing up on the edge of the bed, legs hanging over the side with feet on the floor, head laying down; and I leaning over her with my arms supporting my weight so as not to put pressure on her abdomen. We alternated kissing with me gently sucking her nipples.
God, I think I'm going to go whack off right now just thinking about it again.
Its usually a question of attractiveness and location. I live in a smaller city, and a lot of it comes down to who is available in my area and looks reasonably good.
No one formula for me. Since I have to commit at least 6 hours to travel, and usually an overnight, to escape the Frozen North, the bottom line is availability. I have a mental list of 6 or 8 ladies I'd like to see - if the opportunity pops up, I'll go that way. Sometimes I get a bug up my ass and just focus on visiting one specific lady, and plan accordingly. M & Gs are a great way to make choices, and budgets, more difficult You guys in the city have it easy!
Of course the looks / photos get my attention. Then . . . These are just preferences, not hard and fast rules: Because I'm over 60 I tend to shy away from women under . . . 25 or so? Does that sound ridiculous? I prefer someone 30 to 35 as long as she is in great shape. I tend to not call up a lady where the photos are too professional, too Hollywood. I prefer if the photos do not show the lady's face. Just seems reasonable. I prefer part timers, ladies with a day job. I prefer seeing a lady in her home or apartment. So I now have four local ladies who I really like to be with and they at least pretend the same. I see them every couple of months. That said there is a thrill to meeting someone new. Wish I had more time, more money, and fewer years.
and beautiful, un made up faces. My best encounters have been with providers that were 9 or 10s and only used moisturizer, light perfume and who had excellent hygiene.
When chosing a women, I look for eye color and a special look to her. Great contours, smooth well kept figures, well kept hair and skin. I prefer young women in the 20-25 year range, but go above that range when a provider stricks me as extra special. I also prefer european women, it seems easier for me to find an abundant selection of 9/10 types that meet my looks category among that population.
All this reminds me that I like all kinds of women. I prefer brunettes with athletic bodies but basically I love women of all kinds. That's why this is my favorite sport.
Certainly looks matter, but I also carefully read the words and look for genuineness (I know, I know...easy to fake) in the lady advertising. I also seek reviews, use tineye, generally be as careful as I can be. There are so many women available for us to spend time with, and I want to make the best of it so am as careful as I can be.
My screening is long and involved. But I do read her site as personality is important to me. 100% of the ladies I seen based solely on looks have been disappointments. Including the foursome I had a Nevada brothel Saturday. Not that it was not fun, but it was not as hot as it should have been with two 9's and an 8 taking turns sucking and riding little me.
My screening is long and involved. But I do read her site as personality is important to me. 100% of the ladies I seen based solely on looks have been disappointments. Including the foursome I had a Nevada brothel Saturday. Not that it was not fun, but it was not as hot as it should have been with two 9's and an 8 taking turns sucking and riding little me.
For me it definitely starts with the pictures, but it doesn't end there. If the pix are hot I read the reviews, sometimes all of them. Then I'll go back and read the lady's web site in depth. Then, and only then, will I book.
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but there are a lot of gorgeous and talented ladies in Atlanta, so I am always curious as to what it was exactly about me that gave me the edge. 