A) Well now - "THAT" happened.
B) Why aren't Obama, Clinton OR the POTUS-elect calling on their followers to chill out? We are seeing a complete breakdown and repudiation of the electoral system in its entirety by the post-election behavior from all sides. Hillary's concession speech was surprisingly sanguine and conciliatory, but she followed it up by pointing the finger at Comey. I could have accepted Wikileaks, but Comey, really? Good luck with that, Sherman.Meanwhile, violence by her "constituency" against pro-Trump individuals has risen by leaps and bounds, viral videos of black on white violence are being cheered and "liked" on Facebook, which seems all of a sudden to have abandoned their own protocols and principles concerning "hate-content".
Why hasn't Hillary said or done anything to calm her angry followers in the interest of moving forward? Obama spoke eloquently and in a conciliatory manner during his press conference with POTUS-elect Trump and yet he too has been silent over this violent aftermath. Obama spoke passionately and forcefully during the campaign. Surely some words of hope and change from the President to his constituency could bring about some calm in this unique time in America's history. Trump himself could affect a positive influence over the activities of HIS constituents as well, if only he would choose to say something constructive and Presidential. Good luck with that, Sherman. Just sayin'...
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C) Doctor Gonzo is a Jew and has a Jewish perspective. Imagine that. As a Jew with an existential connection to the Holocaust, there was no way I could ever support Trump. Too much support from high profile anti-Semitic organizations and individuals despite his Jewish connections including via family. Too many Jew-hating tropes lifted almost verbatim from the disgraced and debunked Protocols, and yes, I did see the video clip of that asshat screaming Jew-S-A with his hand forming a gang symbol associated with White Power. Despite what a certain human pap smear insists, I've never supported Trump, and have never voted for a Republican, unless you include the LA Mayors campaign in 1993. I voted for Richard Riordan over Mike Woo. And I would again. I felt Woo accomplished nothing as a Hollywood City Councilman. As a Zionist with an ancestral connection to Israel (confirmed by AncestryDNA in fact), I could no longer associate myself with, nor could I support an American political party that featured dozens of "Palestinian" flags on the floor of the Democratic National Convention, encourage and support (via tens of millions of dollars from George Soros) false front organizations featuring SJP (Students for Justice in "Palestine") and especially BDS (Boycott Divestment Sanction). Israeli flags were burned by members of these same hate-filled propaganda tools of Palestinian Pablum and the Soros Agenda while Hillary spoke inside to her loyal followers, and despite Hillary's open and unambiguous repudiation of BDS. But these are her supporters and welcomed members of the Democratic Party. It did not and does not sit well with me. I am sadly reminded of the classic satire of Tom Lehrer: Oh the Catholics, hate the Protestants,
And the Protestants hate the Catholics.
The Hindus hate the Muslims,
And Everybody Hates The Jews. Earlier this week on November 9-10 marked the anniversary of “Kristallnacht”. On those dates in 1938, Nazis in Germany torched synagogues, vandalized Jewish homes, schools and businesses and killed close to 100 Jews. It was to many people, the vital first step of Hitler's Final Solution. And if you think the eerie parallels to that horrible night and "The Day After" unfolding events of this years election are nothing to look at and shrug off as just Jewish paranoia, think again, and refresh your memory of Martin Niemöller.
I do not expect Trump to follow through on his promise to move the US Embassy to Jerusalem. Whether because of the facts of realpolitik, or strident objection and filibuster by pro-"Palestinians" in Congress and J Street, I don't expect it to happen. That's simply a nod to reality whether I like it or not. Just Sayin'...
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Random thoughts: Why are folks going apoplectic over Trump walking back some of his most incendiary statements? Why is this a bad thing? The human pap smear among others, has been SCREAMING and RANTING how Trump is changing his tone now that he's the POTUS-elect. Seems to me that that should be a sign Trump is finally getting the idea of what politics at the highest level is really about. So there are thousands (4000+) of political appointments that must be made, and I am not surprised some of those are going to go to insiders and lobbyists. Has it ever occurred to the Planet Stupid types that maybe, just maybe, there are people who regardless of their ties to Beltway Bullshit, are crucial to an orderly transition. Or have people simply gone over the edge and overdosed on the Kool-Aid mantra of "in order to save the country we have to destroy it." What's to be gained? We as a nation are injured and we must heal. This election has brought out the very worst in Americans across the board. Anyone with a genuine concern for the well being of our country should be focusing more healing the rift instead of rending it completely asunder. Starting with the spoiled brats in Silicon Valley, "moving on" to the residents of Planet Stupid all the way to the effete snobs and pseudo-intellectuals across the Eastern Seaboard. Haven't we all had enough hate? Just Sayin'...
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Thanks for reading. Cheers
A few have started but many, like most of those here, continue to act in ways that contributed to this situation. I continue to hope Trump doesn’t screw this up. As I’ve always said, the chances are high he might. The best simplified description I’ve seen of how we got here has been, the Left took Trump literally but not seriously while his supporters (Right and some Left) took him seriously but not literally. Those that mocked Trump and his supporters, including Obama, actually contributed to his success.
Of course it’s now up to Trump to set a proper tone and pace, beginning with speaking with a message that all (OK, most or more) can believe is honest. We/They don’t have to agree with the message but hyperbole from either side serves no one’s interests. It’s also incumbent upon the conservatives and old guard Republicans to find some common ground with Trump. I’m sure most are presently simply figuring out how to take advantage of an unexpected Republican Presidency. The other danger is the Republicans overeach the same as the Democrats did in 2008-09. Any major legislation passed unilaterally as was Obamacare is extremely difficult to maintain. Previously, such legislation had at least a modest participation of the opposition party which went a long way to protecting it from being undone but instead improved or corrected.
It could all fall apart which is my fear but one or two good things are already showing signs of surfacing. Even after Trump is gone there should be some lasting effects. One, a portion of the public that thought they could trust their present sources of news may have been awoken to the fact they’ve been lied to. Two, some in the Press have realized how they were complicit in creating the situation. The anti-Trump/pro-Hillary Press is a culmination of decades of negative evolution of the Fourth Estate shirking their responsibilities.
I too am disappointed in Clinton’s lack of communication to her supporters, but not surprised. She does not want to be associated with them. As always, her self-interests have always been top priority. Josh Earnest has made non-violence statements regarding protesters but he should speak directly against the rioting.
Everyone's been waiting for the election so it would all be over. In reality it's now just beginning.
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...being the late Doctor Gonzo.
The only breakdown I've seen is the person they're still looking for who shot one of the demonstrators. Not saying he's a Trump follower, just saying. Oh, and yes there's been some vandalism, and the police who have vowed their black boots would march n his behalf to "restore law and order," have made a modest number of arrests...but all that seems pretty mundane. Stuff happens every day of the week all year long. How is this stuff so different?
Children are scared. People are being bullied, harassed, attacked, but so far no casualties. Trump says it's so unfair, like everything else, it seems to him that the world has rigged all the systems to work against him. Except the gerrymandering in the key stated owned by the party, and their voting machines, of course. Otherwise everyone's out to get the poor whittle tyke.
If Trump reaches out to the other side, really makes a good faith effort, drops his fuck-you attitude, and moves a little bit away from Fascism, I'm sure that those who comprised the popular vote will give him a chance.
And President Obama, the quintessential gentleman tasked with teaching the orangoutang to walk own his hind legs and pay attention long enough to transition into the White House, President Obama has repeatedly called for all Americans to come together and accept Trump as their new leader.
Been listening to how Europeans are feeling about all this on BBC and such. They'll eventually fall in line too. Even though they're a bit nervous about his petting parties with Putin and rather crackpot foreign policy, they hope his Comrades in the House and Senate will be able to steer him clear of the most dangerous plans he's made.
But the victors are still gloating a tad much, pushing people around, grappling the jerseys so to speak, kicking around the little guys a little too much, threatening too many people. We all know they're just being good ol' boys and don't really mean anything by it. And hey, if you can't take a few fists in your face without fighting back maybe ya ought to get the hell out go their country, right? It's all in good fun, right?
So what kind of a messed up country would we be in if they can have fun but we can't? We're just having a little fun ourselves. We don't mean nothing by it. So leave us the fuck alone while we de-pants this piece of the shit.