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When you're not playing my Kermit  You're playing Harp/Joe McCarthy's Charlie.

Hey remember your post way back wishing for the day when Burr and Hamiliton went at it with single shot dueling pistol.  Well, Barney Fife, you definitely come armed with that just single bullet which always puts you at a great disadvantage in a battle of wits.  Your'e ammo being even less than half.

Thanks for your permission and don't take it so hard.

Harpman602491 reads


I consider most unethical and rather predatory   for a John to threaten a provider with bad review if she does surrender to his unreasonable demands, I know this is a very common complaint of blackmail is common among newbie 90-day wonder , whose English is limited , who want to please and cannot afford to have a bad review. 

On the other side of the coin is providers who ask clients to give review them and give them a score of 10 & 10 irrespective of their performance ,attitude and service they offer. It is unethical for a provider to engage in such a conversation with a client and once this becomes public it puts the credibility of the said provider's reviews in doubt.

I recently came across these two reviews of Nicole Page in which both reviewers allege  that she asked them for 10, 10 scores. If their claim is true it makes all of NP's reviews worthless  and her reviewers reputation tainted.

HIHOSTEVERINO'S REVIEW OF NICOLE PAGE

http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/showReview.asp?Review=1261317

PUNTER69'S REVIEW OF NICOLE PAGE

http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/showReview.asp?Review=1264410

thighhighlover1353 reads

harpman, kudos to you for having the balls to write this post. You and I are kindred spirits...see link below..

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewall.asp?MessageID=65732&boardID=7&page=1#65732

Harpman601136 reads

Thank you for sharing this because some of us limit ourselves to our local boards . Appreciate you took the time and made the effort to address a serious issue.

Posted By: thighhighlover
harpman, kudos to you for having the balls to write this post. You and I are kindred spirits...see link below..

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewall.asp?MessageID=65732&boardID=7&page=1#65732

What's really bad is you pin-pricks attacking the girls.  Since I actually go out and hobby (unlike you), I want them primed and fun.   You trolls fill them with fear and ... whatever your weird form of poison.  This is the LA board -- the greatest women in the world.  You're vitriol against individual members of the community pollutes it.  Go post on the TER troll/whiner board.

FIDCUOF1226 reads

I set up an appointment with her, got to the door and walked out!!!  She and her BH apartment smelled like smoke/ashtray and I could not handle it.  She was like a 7 in looks.  I got south shot from her and the dumbass' on the boards to take down the review (which I did).  That's why I stick with the same providers or get a referral from a provider or friend in the hobby.  I don't trust a lot of these reviews.  They reflect 10s and they then out to be 5s on my scale. Some of these guys HAVE to pay to get laid so they OVER rare these women because their standards are...well, they don't have any standards.

JohnISmyname1146 reads

I agree with you on the unreliability of the score. I find half of the top 10 would score 6 or less on my own personal scale. I often wonder if my standard is really that different than everyone else's or the scores are not a true reflection of the reality. If the scores are not accurate then there's a high probability that the details of the reviews are inaccurate as well.  I have come to the conclusion that I can not rely solely on scores & reviews to select who I would like to see. However, scores & reviews does help me to know if the provider is legit (not LE) and is not in possible trouble and is still active. I try not see anyone with less than 5 reviews and anyone with review that's over 1 year old. It's too easy for LE to set up someone with 1 or 2 reviews. Anyone who is not getting any reviews for over 1 year may be a sign of personal trouble (it could be in many different forms) or may have retired. I would not trust a referral from a provider because of conflict of interest. Why would she recommend someone who is prettier and better than she is? I am still too new at this hobby so I don't have any friend yet so I have to depend on myself.

It's true that I don't get free sex at this time (too complicated for me), but that doesn't mean I have no standard. Are you sure your standard is higher just because you are getting lay for free? I have found that I would be more willing to compromise on quality if I am getting something for free. :)

Posted By: FIDCUOF
I set up an appointment with her, got to the door and walked out!!!  She and her BH apartment smelled like smoke/ashtray and I could not handle it.  She was like a 7 in looks.  I got south shot from her and the dumbass' on the boards to take down the review (which I did).  That's why I stick with the same providers or get a referral from a provider or friend in the hobby.  I don't trust a lot of these reviews.  They reflect 10s and they then out to be 5s on my scale. Some of these guys HAVE to pay to get laid so they OVER rare these women because their standards are...well, they don't have any standards.

swish441086 reads

Its sad but thats why I stopped writing  true reviews because they dont get approved  because they are way lower then the girl previous  scores .  So I dont bother writing reviews to offend the girls that have a big ego that think the guys are assholes cause he doesnt think Im beautiful. Some of the guys that review a  girl have never been layed in there life so anything with 2 legs is a 10 . Ive said it before and ILL say it again .If I offend any girls Im sorry .There are no Playboy  Models in this buisness or else they wouldnt be doing this or they would be on a cover of a magazine . .There could be a rare gem but a 10 is liking finding a needle in a haystack . Ive noticed one girl that Ive wanted to see that has nothing but perfect 10 scores but half of her reviews are from  guys that have only that review and she charges way above the price . I once saw a girl that had all perfect 10 scores and in my book she was a 5 and I left .

FIDCUOF1055 reads

I agree 100%

Posted By: swish44
Its sad but thatI agres why I stopped writing  true reviews because they dont get approved  because they are way lower then the girl previous  scores .  So I dont bother writing reviews to offend the girls that have a big ego that think the guys are assholes cause he doesnt think Im beautiful. Some of the guys that review a  girl have never been layed in there life so anything with 2 legs is a 10 . Ive said it before and ILL say it again .If I offend any girls Im sorry .There are no Playboy  Models in this buisness or else they wouldnt be doing this or they would be on a cover of a magazine . .There could be a rare gem but a 10 is liking finding a needle in a haystack . Ive noticed one girl that Ive wanted to see that has nothing but perfect 10 scores but half of her reviews are from  guys that have only that review and she charges way above the price . I once saw a girl that had all perfect 10 scores and in my book she was a 5 and I left .

Harpman601219 reads


I wish you stayed on sidelines. Until the moderators outed your allied  you used your handle and your allias to respond and support each others' posts. You even used both to gang up on me ( check link below) .
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=276473&boardID=1&page=#276473

It tells volume about you if you pulled your review of NP because of " pressure" from others , what about the cost to your credibility once your actions suggest your review might be fake.

You have been accused of fake reviews by providers and judging by some of you reviews of K-dolls I would not challenge these allegations. It is very easy to post a fake review of a K-doll ( especially if it's a positive review) since the K-dolls are not in the habit of responding.

You say you are a changed person but your reviews do not suggest rehabilitation

Posted By: FIDCUOF
I set up an appointment with her, got to the door and walked out!!!  She and her BH apartment smelled like smoke/ashtray and I could not handle it.  She was like a 7 in looks.  I got south shot from her and the dumbass' on the boards to take down the review (which I did).  That's why I stick with the same providers or get a referral from a provider or friend in the hobby.  I don't trust a lot of these reviews.  They reflect 10s and they then out to be 5s on my scale. Some of these guys HAVE to pay to get laid so they OVER rare these women because their standards are...well, they don't have any standards.

loves2hobby1122 reads

There's a good reason a lot of the top providers won't see you.

sarahfan1124 reads

She asked me to do the same!

FIDCUOF1226 reads


Did u?

Posted By: sarahfan
She asked me to do the same!  

Harpman601028 reads


by Carlhungus in which he parodies LA Discussion Board's resident  narcissist  and fake reviewer, pretty funny don't you think.

I will try respond to your other post on this thread with a more serious aspect.  

http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/showReview.asp?Review=1248495

Posted By: FIDCUOF

Did u?
Posted By: sarahfan
She asked me to do the same!  

JohnISmyname990 reads

Or is it a lot more common than we know?

Offer an extra half hour for a 10/10 review, or see the client at a discounted rate for a 10/10!

wtf I have been doing this for a long time & just got my 1st 10/10 review, which I worked very hard for, so how does TER allow the new providers to reach the top 100 list by being unethical?

1 of the same providers in SD who does this also, uses fake photos to get the dates.  Hard business!

-- Modified on 7/25/2012 8:25:49 AM

I think most guys are the same.  We could care less about who is popular and look for the looks and service we like at the price we can afford.

mindoverbatter1045 reads

I was going to write a review for Nicole Tryst, and at the same time asked her if she could white list me.  Her response was that she would only white list me if I gave her a great review.  I told her that I thought it was unethical to base one on the other.  After all, isn't white listing a means of keeping this industry safe, particularly for providers?  Well, I felt that my review would be tainted, so I opted not to write one.  If anyone cares to know about the specifics, I'll gladly respond to a pm, but feel that this isn't the venue to critique her looks or performance either.

FIDCUOF980 reads

Smart to advise the PM for additional info.  All should use this feature

I would like to PM you about Nicole Tryst but can't PM an alias?

sushiTime1058 reads

I just did a google image search on her photos.

I would like to hear what Nicole has to say about all this!

Harpman601038 reads


did she contact you after your review was posted?  

Posted By: anond
I would like to hear what Nicole has to say about all this!

These "scores" have been a MAJOR bone of contention since TER went on-line in 2000!

 Early on; statistician, actuary, and fellow hobbyist "Mathesar" created a TOP 100 "Mathesar Report" in LA. By its second cyber publication Hooking had become a blood-sport amongst the top twenty rated providers in LA. The anointed at the top were regularly engaging in every form of clandestine bullying, extortion, and of course COLLUSION between friends, boy friends, SO's, hubbies, active and noted hobbyists, as well as an Administrator and his minions. Within a year there were MANY TER members pleading to end the "Mathesar Report" and the madness caused by it. But with 3 or more of the TOP Ten providers now being Mathesars pro-bono ATF's and a small legion of SO's, minions etc also profiting it would take until Mathesar was too old & sick to stop publishing it.

 NOW we have a automated TOP 100, and many of the venal human elements have been removed; but it is still far from controversy free.

I've never found much wrong with the "performance" scores and their precepts; but the "Appearance" system breeds nothing but contempt from both sides.

Simple answer?  Change "Appearance" 1 - 10 to "Photo fidelity" 1-10

1. Not the woman in the photos

2. Far from the truth

3. 10 years & 25+ pounds ago maybe

4. Face/eyes obscured & body doesn’t match

5. Face/eyes obscured but body matches

6. Total Glamour shots using all the tricks

7. Glamorized but realistic

8. Artfully posed but representative

9. Very fair representation

10. What you see is totally what you get

 Too bugger up the computer's (or human's) ability for "Value added" simply substitute #5 description for #10 description, #8 for #3, #6 for #9 etc etc.

Which is morally, ethically worse; a provider asking for 10-10's, or a provider influencing someone to write a less than honest/flattering review about another provider?

There is a Independent asian girl who does the same thing! Her name starts with a " A ".
Claims to be a sexy asian. But, more like a Thick asian after you see her!

Harpman601011 reads

Unless necessary I try to avoid mentioning her by name. Anyway you took  the thunder out of  what was going to be my next OP , I will have to think of something else. Every hippo has it's day

She is B310 project so I will only say Karma is indeed a bitch.

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Posted By: ruaturtle
There is a Independent asian girl who does the same thing! Her name starts with a " A ".
Claims to be a sexy asian. But, more like a Thick asian after you see her!

I am sure that your name will now appear on the NBL...hahahahaha..Sorry buddy but welcome to the "Asian A" Club to be blacklisted because you called her out on her crap.


Be prepared for the backlash from her "supporters". I can hear it already...blah blah blah blah...


But yes indeedy Karma is a bitch..isnt that right "A"?  


toodles...


Beemer looking for a "Sexy Asian A"

Posted By: ruaturtle
There is a Independent asian girl who does the same thing! Her name starts with a " A ".
Claims to be a sexy asian. But, more like a Thick asian after you see her!

and HE asked me for a good scoring when his bosses did a follow-up to his service visit.

I've been solicited in this manner by everyone from hotel maids to attorneys in this world of "Angie's List" I dunno what your fuss is about.

 I've seen Nicole several times since my 9 - 9 review. Between her knowing just how to dress for me, and her happily accommodating certain favorite predilections of mine; an updated review would only reflect a better scoring.  

Harpman60 with all due respect you are a dumbass. All reviews are subjective. Nothing more. Otherwise you would believe every delusional f#$%^ that believes that they are god's gift to woman and they perform better then a porn actor or that they are member of a superior race for f#$%ing for 10 hours straight. Reviews are nothing more then to gauge the providers attitude, friendliness, atmosphere, skills, etc.
Yes, if you look I did give her a ten and to me she deserves a 20! That is my opinion of her. Take it or leave it. It is up to you to decide to see her.
For you to question the integrity of the reviewers, compare to what? yours? What everyone have to ask themselves is: What is Harpman60 motive and what does he benefit by creating this thread? integrity? to benefit the community as if he is a good samaritan? or an ulterior motive:

ul·te·ri·or  (l-tîr-r)
adj.
1.  Lying beyond what is evident, revealed, or avowed, especially being concealed intentionally so as to deceive: an ulterior motive.
2.  Lying beyond or outside the area of immediate interest.
3.  Occurring later; subsequent.

Harpman60921 reads

other than suggest you ask yourself what ulterior motives you have for such a response & may I add I do not ask reviewers to grade me a 10, I do not badger reviewers who do not submit to my demands nor do I  ask for my negative reviews to be removed.

Furthermore , there  is a whole lot of difference between a client posting a review that reflects his genuine experience and a provider corrupting the review process by asking for high scores , deserved or not, and thus  undermining  the integrity of the reviews. And FYI reviews is the greatest asset of TER is the reviews  , that is why reviewers are rewarded with VIP status for reviews. If  reviews  are suspect or tainted they become redundant  and ultimately it would effect membership. Hobbyist rely on read  before deciding how to parting with with their hard earned cash .    

Posted By: joe_farve_11
Harpman60 with all due respect you are a dumbass. All reviews are subjective. Nothing more. Otherwise you would believe every delusional f#$%^ that believes that they are god's gift to woman and they perform better then a porn actor or that they are member of a superior race for f#$%ing for 10 hours straight. Reviews are nothing more then to gauge the providers attitude, friendliness, atmosphere, skills, etc.
Yes, if you look I did give her a ten and to me she deserves a 20! That is my opinion of her. Take it or leave it. It is up to you to decide to see her.
For you to question the integrity of the reviewers, compare to what? yours? What everyone have to ask themselves is: What is Harpman60 motive and what does he benefit by creating this thread? integrity? to benefit the community as if he is a good samaritan? or an ulterior motive:

ul·te·ri·or  (l-tîr-r)
adj.
1.  Lying beyond what is evident, revealed, or avowed, especially being concealed intentionally so as to deceive: an ulterior motive.
2.  Lying beyond or outside the area of immediate interest.
3.  Occurring later; subsequent.

I do apologize for my opening statement. I should have written: Harpman60 with all due respect you are wrong but instead I was led my emotions of what you are doing to Nicole Page. I still do not understand what is your motivation for creating this thread? It is to warn the community or because she pissed you off in some fashion? What is to gain of it? Is it the same as saying: hey watch out for Jane Doe because she is a swindler, con-artist, spinner that will rob you blind. Again I have to question yours or anybodies motivation because I do not buy it that you care that deeply for the integrity of the reviews. What is the benefit other then your self serving ulterior motive!

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I could have asked did you write your post on your own accord or were you directed by Nicole Page to step forward and defend her. We can forever question each others' motives but what will that prove.

However,  your review should be read in the spirit it was written why shouldn't my post be accepted or rejected on face value without interjecting anything that only  sidetracks the issue and hijacks the thread.

I have no vested interest in the fate , failure of Nocole Page, we have inner communicated or even responded to each others' posts,  she has done absolutely  nothing to please or piss me off and I have nothing personal against her. I have never tried to contact her and as a matter of fact even after this post I have no idea what she even looks like.

If you noticed I attempted to marginalize Fidcuof's posts on the thread because of his  documented lack of integrity and questionable credibility and for attempting to use the thread to apparently settle a personal score or vendetta with Nicole Page and her supporter and to falsely feed his ego at the expense of others. 
 
The issue at hand in not whether ratings are subjective or not that is a given . The issue is whether or not providers should  influence the score she receives by exerting undue influence over a client , and if that is the case what is the value of the said reviews,on a review site? While this practice is widespread  it is nevertheless unethical , high score should be earned and not demanded otherwise the are meaningless and even the legitimately high score become tarnished because of the providers actions. 

Reviews in a site like this are based on honor and trust. Unless one believes that the reviewer has actually seen the provider and that the review is an honest , beit subjective, reflection of the experience the reviewer had the whole review system becomes as irrelevant as it is redundant. 

I have no axe to grind with Nicole Page, it is only by coincidence that I came across her reviews. I simply used the two reviews as examples of a widespread problem that needs discussing.

You may not have  read my posts however , if you have , you will know that have an issue with fake reviews , reviews written by the proxies of bookers agencies and providers, reviews written in retaliation and I have stated I rely on reviews by a few trusted bros and recommendations by reelable reputable bookers.  
      

Posted By: joe_farve_11
I do apologize for my opening statement. I should have written: Harpman60 with all due respect you are wrong but instead I was led my emotions of what you are doing to Nicole Page. I still do not understand what is your motivation for creating this thread? It is to warn the community or because she pissed you off in some fashion? What is to gain of it? Is it the same as saying: hey watch out for Jane Doe because she is a swindler, con-artist, spinner that will rob you blind. Again I have to question yours or anybodies motivation because I do not buy it that you care that deeply for the integrity of the reviews. What is the benefit other then your self serving ulterior motive!

Joe, I agree with you. I have seen Nicole multiple times (more than 3) and she is one of the nicest provider that I have seen. All reviews are subjective and if there is no connection with the women you see then the rating will reflect the entire experience. This entire thread is highly vindictive and unnecessary to try to hurt Nicole Page.

Harpman601171 reads

Don't make presumptions when the facts are underneath you nose. Feel free to express your support for ten providers but not at ten expense of the evevidence and toners. You can have your own opinion but not your facts. You are free to share your experiences but don't deny others the same right you wish to exercise.

You have two reviews alleging that Nicole Page asked them to rate her a 10 in their reviews . Are you disputing their claim and on what basis.

Do you think that it is ok for  providers should make demands that undermine the integrity of the review system ?

Posted By: findjimbo2
Joe, I agree with you. I have seen Nicole multiple times (more than 3) and she is one of the nicest provider that I have seen. All reviews are subjective and if there is no connection with the women you see then the rating will reflect the entire experience. This entire thread is highly vindictive and unnecessary to try to hurt Nicole Page.


You are concerned about the "integrity" of the system? Seriously?
You are talking about guys reviewing escorts, some of whom are whack jobs; others of whom are morons; others of whom are vicious and cruel.

Integrity? Give me a fucking break already.

Your post this thread because you actually think that guys are pressured into writing positive reviews if an escort asks us to do so?

That is absurd.

Who gives a damn what the escort asks about rating her highly?
If she deserves it, and wants to be reviewed, why the hell shouldnt she ask to be given high reviews? What the hell is wrong with that?

There is no pressure to do anything, just because an escort asks it.
You can do it or not do it, however you please.
But if she wants to be reviewed it is perfectly proper for her to ask. Why the hell shouldnt she?
And if she thinks she deserves high numbers, then good for her.

There is far more pressure in your endless implications that your precious "k-girl" community bans people who dont give positive reviews.

The question of your motive is a good one. To me, it is obvious.
Your motive is to attack anyone and anything that does not go along with invoking your $250/hr k-girl world as the greatest thing ever created.
If you can find a way to besmirch anything or anyone that does not jump on board with you, you are more than happy to do it if you think that will give you an edge to promote the k-girls you endlessly pimp.

Harpman60884 reads

reviewers of the 2 reviews I cited had the integrity to ignore the providers demands and not only do the reviews reflect their experience but they had the balls to report that unlike some salivating manginas  they reported Nicole Page wanted them to do.

I will not sink so low as the dignify your hate filled personal attacks. You blow as hard as you want till you face turns blue. For all I care but you are not worth any more effort from me or worth more of my  time than this post has consumed.

Posted By: mr.ed

You are concerned about the "integrity" of the system? Seriously?
You are talking about guys reviewing escorts, some of whom are whack jobs; others of whom are morons; others of whom are vicious and cruel.

Integrity? Give me a fucking break already.

Your post this thread because you actually think that guys are pressured into writing positive reviews if an escort asks us to do so?

That is absurd.

Who gives a damn what the escort asks about rating her highly?
If she deserves it, and wants to be reviewed, why the hell shouldnt she ask to be given high reviews? What the hell is wrong with that?

There is no pressure to do anything, just because an escort asks it.
You can do it or not do it, however you please.
But if she wants to be reviewed it is perfectly proper for her to ask. Why the hell shouldnt she?
And if she thinks she deserves high numbers, then good for her.

There is far more pressure in your endless implications that your precious "k-girl" community bans people who dont give positive reviews.

The question of your motive is a good one. To me, it is obvious.
Your motive is to attack anyone and anything that does not go along with invoking your $250/hr k-girl world as the greatest thing ever created.
If you can find a way to besmirch anything or anyone that does not jump on board with you, you are more than happy to do it if you think that will give you an edge to promote the k-girls you endlessly pimp.  


In this thread alone you tell anyone who has the time and desire to respond to your nastiness that you wont respond to it, but of course that is precisely what you do each time - because you are incapable of shutting your sad yap a single time, ever.

You and your butt boy Beemer have made this Board a bore, as if the only issue people in this community could care about is which Korean provider you wanna pimp is the best bargain.

Obviously there are a number of us who are just sick of your endless pimping that causes you to attack and besmirch anyone who does not line up with you.

Then you call them frauds or racists or dishonest.

Count me among those who look on you as an annoying pimp. The list grows daily.

Harpman60858 reads

That's your problem , i am not here to entertain you or post what is of interest  to you. This is a public board so if you have anything of interest to share why don't you post it. However, what would one expect from someone who names himself after a horse and behave like a pig.

As far as the what others care about , you either blind or in denial the the facts speak for themselves , love it or hate it but you better learn to live it based on posts on this board K-dolls Rule LA. They do very well , without help from B310, me or anyone else.  

Posted By: mr.ed

In this thread alone you tell anyone who has the time and desire to respond to your nastiness that you wont respond to it, but of course that is precisely what you do each time - because you are incapable of shutting your sad yap a single time, ever.

You and your butt boy Beemer have made this Board a bore, as if the only issue people in this community could care about is which Korean provider you wanna pimp is the best bargain.

Obviously there are a number of us who are just sick of your endless pimping that causes you to attack and besmirch anyone who does not line up with you.

Then you call them frauds or racists or dishonest.

Count me among those who look on you as an annoying pimp. The list grows daily.  

You nailed it.  Thanks -- someone needed to say it, and i don't know whether it could have been stated so eloquently, particularly "There is far more pressure in your endless implications that your precious

"k-girl" community bans people who dont give positive reviews. The question of your motive is a good one. To me, it is obvious. Your motive is to attack anyone and anything that does not go along with invoking your $250/hr k-girl world as the greatest thing ever created. If you can find a way to besmirch anything or anyone that does not jump on board with you, you are more than happy to do it if you think that will give you an edge to promote the k-girls you endlessly pimp."

Nice job.

-SoCal


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stand on their own merit. The reviews have been supported by others who posted on ten thread or sent pms.

Your attempt and the attempt by other lackeys to hijack the thread and sidetrack the issue has only put Nicole Page's unethical practices more under scrutiny.    

Posted By: SoCalSrchAgain
You nailed it.  Thanks -- someone needed to say it, and i don't know whether it could have been stated so eloquently, particularly "There is far more pressure in your endless implications that your precious

"k-girl" community bans people who dont give positive reviews. The question of your motive is a good one. To me, it is obvious. Your motive is to attack anyone and anything that does not go along with invoking your $250/hr k-girl world as the greatest thing ever created. If you can find a way to besmirch anything or anyone that does not jump on board with you, you are more than happy to do it if you think that will give you an edge to promote the k-girls you endlessly pimp."

Nice job.

-SoCal


I guess you don't read the discussion board very often.  This is one of the wat he rolls.  There are a number of non-Korean providers that are on his bash list.  N.P. is probably one of them.  It's generally a case where the lady has posted something on the board that he finds offensive to K-girls and he comes after them - over and over.  Of course I could be wrong.  Maybe he just stumbled across these reviews by accident and felt everybody on the board needed to know.

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Snitches who carries K-bookers water on this board. Don't make accusations and slanderous statements because after being exposed for what  you are  you feel the need to settle a score.

Unlike you I do not hide behind the skirt of an alias but use my only handle to respond to those who express racist tendencies or a misogynist attitude or bash those who can not respond back,   irrespective of whether the culprit are paper clowns like you or blatant racist , whether they are johns  or working girls. Beside sitting on the sideline like UBL little boy tossing  grenades and bombs steep forward and reveal  your values and principles if you have any.

For once be a man and instead of trying to lower the discussion to your level address the issue which in this case has to do with providers undermining the integrity of reviews . If you have nothing to contribute try not to get your cheep thrill without once again proving how morally bankrupt you really are.  

Posted By: rpd1952
I guess you don't read the discussion board very often.  This is one of the wat he rolls.  There are a number of non-Korean providers that are on his bash list.  N.P. is probably one of them.  It's generally a case where the lady has posted something on the board that he finds offensive to K-girls and he comes after them - over and over.  Of course I could be wrong.  Maybe he just stumbled across these reviews by accident and felt everybody on the board needed to know.

Nobody's calling me a K-girl pimp, so I guess I'm not carrying that water very well.  And those bookers just l  ove me for my reviews.  I just wrote one, ahh what year or two ago.  And I bring their attention to all this stuff on the board because I fail to pay attention to the posts of a couple of K-experts that have frequently stated how the girls and the bookers are paying close attention to all the reviews and discussion board posts.  But hey, if you can't be logical, you can always go the Joe McCarthy route.

And I do need correct one misrepresentation I made on a post.  On those occassions when I get the special rate for carrying the booker water, it's not always $2.50.  Their a couple in the upper tier where it's $2.70.

wow..talk about getting a life...huhuhuh....

Go on wid yo bad self again....

You talk all this talk about other people getting a life but you seem to not be able to follow your own advice? Why is that? Do we affect you that much??


We do huh?

Gooo on Kermit..mr henson is calling you...

Posted By: rpd1952
Nobody's calling me a K-girl pimp, so I guess I'm not carrying that water very well.  And those bookers just l  ove me for my reviews.  I just wrote one, ahh what year or two ago.  And I bring their attention to all this stuff on the board because I fail to pay attention to the posts of a couple of K-experts that have frequently stated how the girls and the bookers are paying close attention to all the reviews and discussion board posts.  But hey, if you can't be logical, you can always go the Joe McCarthy route.

And I do need correct one misrepresentation I made on a post.  On those occassions when I get the special rate for carrying the booker water, it's not always $2.50.  Their a couple in the upper tier where it's $2.70.

Harpman60950 reads





And proxies like you do read the the boards and reviews. Just because you don't write reviews does not mean you cannot render services and get compensated. You freak out at the mention of a bookers name on the DB as if you care. You don't care about bigotry or racism why would you care if a bookers name is mentioned or if the K-dolls who are on one roster mentioned; what's in it for you ? I don't need an answer.  

 The first time you got in touch with me was by pm to get me to remove a post.
 WTF would you to attempt, demand or intimidate me do anything. WTF appointed you  policeman and censor in chief of this Board, what happened to the moderators. Oh sorry I forgot, a Booker called , really a Booker ,why would a Booker call you when the bookers and the dolls have accounts and they can contact TER or whoever they wish. 

When I wouldn't dignify your pm with a response you sent me another attempting to intimidate me, to no avail.

When I posted the Holiday Season K-doll Poll you ran to alert your paymasters and  create an imaginary concern. 

It is obvious on whose behalf you try and intimidate people to prevent them from naming names , despite ten fact that  many of the names or their popular initials are already in reviews. 

I  can understand and appreciate why bookers may not wish their names mentioned especially if you put the fear of God in them. However how comes you are involved, what's in it for you because  they don't need you .They know the moderators and when they care enough about something they act. They removed  bbfs reviews and  posts by strongnhorny. They have the ability to have things done so why will they come to unless you are trying to carry favor with them. 

After the hysteria you created about the Poll and the spanking B310 handed you you took up an alias and hid behind ms piggy. You were going crazy with posts. We found ourselves  yawning by your stupidity and lack of imagination ; eventually deciding to expose you for the hypocrite you are. No matter what alias you hide behind your lack the smarts  to control or conceal your hate, racism and bigotry and you tolerance for such evil.

See my boy , the naive may think you only  serve your masters by writing reviews however, there are dozens of guys who  are only too happy to have the opportunity to  be the first to review a new  K-doll.  There is also seems to be a need for an enforcer to control what is posted and  someone to post his maters comments under his handle . 

You can laugh it off, you can be caustic , cynical , dismissive however, your arrogance and conceit. cannot  conceal the truth or who you seem to be  . 

You seem to have affiliation and love for McCarthy so from now on we can refer to you JMc . Sorry baby JMc , but no biscuits or tea for you. Better luck next time.    

Posted By: rpd1952
Nobody's calling me a K-girl pimp, so I guess I'm not carrying that water very well.  And those bookers just l  ove me for my reviews.  I just wrote one, ahh what year or two ago.  And I bring their attention to all this stuff on the board because I fail to pay attention to the posts of a couple of K-experts that have frequently stated how the girls and the bookers are paying close attention to all the reviews and discussion board posts.  But hey, if you can't be logical, you can always go the Joe McCarthy route.

And I do need correct one misrepresentation I made on a post.  On those occassions when I get the special rate for carrying the booker water, it's not always $2.50.  Their a couple in the upper tier where it's $2.70.

For someone lecturing people about getting a life yours.seem to revolve around our posts AND had to hide behind an alias before you outed yourself...how stupid was that?? Forgot to hit the drop down tab huh because you got way too excited about trying to respond to one of our posts..huh?


Hahahahahah!


Yeah...great job buddy.

Beemer loves all muppets especially RPD....

Nothing like putting my hand up your ass all the time huh?

you naughty boy...

Your turn..go ahead..I give you permission..


Don't take it so hard buddy...

Posted By: rpd1952


-- Modified on 7/27/2012 2:07:32 PM

When you're not playing my Kermit  You're playing Harp/Joe McCarthy's Charlie.

Hey remember your post way back wishing for the day when Burr and Hamiliton went at it with single shot dueling pistol.  Well, Barney Fife, you definitely come armed with that just single bullet which always puts you at a great disadvantage in a battle of wits.  Your'e ammo being even less than half.

Thanks for your permission and don't take it so hard.

Well with you i think a dum dum round would be more appropriate..

It is nice to know you remember my posts as well..So much talk about getting a life huh? You may think your witty but in the end your nothing but a titty...hahahah you like that?


No no...it was a joke not a dick...don't take it so hard..

hahah RPD you may think your a puppet master like Jim Henson..
just give up your trying and live off your pension

Oh what a sour and dour puppet you are
Your so jealous you bring up my car

Oh RPD dont be such a puss*
Go watch Sherrif Andy and I love Lucy.


shaaazam....


Beemere loves you miss piggy..

Posted By: rpd1952
When you're not playing my Kermit  You're playing Harp/Joe McCarthy's Charlie.

Hey remember your post way back wishing for the day when Burr and Hamiliton went at it with single shot dueling pistol.  Well, Barney Fife, you definitely come armed with that just single bullet which always puts you at a great disadvantage in a battle of wits.  Your'e ammo being even less than half.

Thanks for your permission and don't take it so hard.

Harpman60923 reads

why don't you produce the links where I bash any provider independent or otherwise which is not a response to a racist , demeaning or offensive post by her.why don't you support your false accusations with evidence and facts. You have been involved in many of threads so it should be easy to provide the evidence.

Instead of acting as the watch dog and censor in chief, on behalf of those whose water you carry, deciding  what is appropriate to post do yourself a favor and get a life , go out and have some fun if you know how to.  

Posted By: rpd1952
I guess you don't read the discussion board very often.  This is one of the wat he rolls.  There are a number of non-Korean providers that are on his bash list.  N.P. is probably one of them.  It's generally a case where the lady has posted something on the board that he finds offensive to K-girls and he comes after them - over and over.  Of course I could be wrong.  Maybe he just stumbled across these reviews by accident and felt everybody on the board needed to know.
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-- Modified on 7/26/2012 8:38:33 AM

You mean get a life you - incessantly posting on a fuck board, researching ancient threads, sombing through guys reviews so I can accuse them of something nefarious? Sounds like fun to me.  You're right, maybe I should try that.

Harpman601072 reads


concealing the truth or creating your own facts I do make a point of providing facts. Yes , I confront bigots with their own words, you can love , accept it or lump my dear JMc . 

You have been stalking me since you sent me a pm demanding that I delete a comment I posted to help a bro out and you decided to contact me on behalf of your paymasters . If you claim you are not being rewarded for doing their dirty work than I pity the poor sucker, because he is even more dim than first thought.  

Listen JMc , get a life , harassing and stalking me have no pay off or happy ending for you, you can not live your life through Beemer's  or my posts , there is nothing in it for you but misery and embarrassment . Sorry to end on a gloomy note , but that is where  you are destined

Posted By: rpd1952
You mean get a life you - incessantly posting on a fuck board, researching ancient threads, sombing through guys reviews so I can accuse them of something nefarious? Sounds like fun to me.  You're right, maybe I should try that.


You make some pretty big ASSumptions once again and then you back off with your tail between your legs with the last half of your post???? Seriously huh?

You might as well should have just apologized and just kept your mouth shut...

RPD, seriously..were you just feeling lonely?

Posted By: rpd1952
I guess you don't read the discussion board very often.  This is one of the wat he rolls.  There are a number of non-Korean providers that are on his bash list.  N.P. is probably one of them.  It's generally a case where the lady has posted something on the board that he finds offensive to K-girls and he comes after them - over and over.  Of course I could be wrong.  Maybe he just stumbled across these reviews by accident and felt everybody on the board needed to know.

As one poster mentioned, there is a certain asian provider that does
this as well. She wrote up a post in which she complained that a
couple of negative (read: accurate)..reviews were fake and started
asking for "support" in getting it removed. Someone called her out on
it and she promptly went apeshit. I use her as an example because it
is not about wether a provider is Asian or non Asian, it is about
PROFESSIONALISM and the lack of it by some providers of all types.

Hobbyists are not off the hook either. Whats the point of reviews then
if a 10 was given because the provider asked for it? You might as well
have just had her write the review. Then, there are those hobbyists
who pressure girls into doing things they dont need to in order to get
a good review..Trust me on this as I am sure many other hobbyists have
heard from other providers about this. Deplorable..

It is a two way street and I don't need to preach about it because we
are all big boys and girls.

I agree that there does need to be a systematic change in the way TER
does it's scoring because it is not fair to the ladies in demanding
too high a set of standards and too easily corrupted by different
aspects of what beauty is about.

Do those that rated N.P. 10's keep returning to see her? Once in a
lifetime is just that isnt it? I find it funny when I see a review
that has ONCE IN A LIFETIME in it but then the reviewer promptly adds
in his review, 'I can't wait to see her again..etc..etc.etc...."..

One other poster..(RPD) makes the claim that the OP is "bashing"
non-koreans by asking about the integrity of Nicole page's reviews, I
found it funny that this same poster (RPD) didnt call out a real bigot
(BPS) in his earlier threads / posts in which he purposefully started
demeaning a certain racial group in the hobby by calling them
derogatory terms. PURPOSEFULLY. Why the hypocritical stance?
oh..forgot...you are a hypocrite....sorry.


I agree that the topic at hand is a great topic and should be addressed.



Beemer asking for 10's because all he has are 20's.....

I forgot to respond to the medal post.  I'll go with:  Mercedes for the gold, Kia the silver, and Hundyi the bronze.

Are you that much of a m*r*n that you can't read the original post?? It does not say anything about cars..

Jesus H. Christ RPD...

Poor poor RPD...doing what his buddy BPS complained about..hijacking a thread just to try one up Harpman...

go on with your bad self..talk about getting a life..hahahaha...

What happened to the old RPD who WAS intelligent and could handle an argument? Now all he is reduced to is trololololololing...i guess hanging around your buddy had its effect huh?

Beemer loves you always...

Posted By: rpd1952
I forgot to respond to the medal post.  I'll go with:  Mercedes for the gold, Kia the silver, and Hundyi the bronze.

Harpman60908 reads

Bully as he carried out his paymasters' instructions. But like all bullies he does not look good when they are on the receiving end and found it necessary to tun into pigs and frogs.his alias was as good as his posts which kept being removed for their slanderous content. What a productive way to spend ones time for someone who has no life but shadow us.

He is trying to hijack the discussion  but it shall not come to pass and neither shall he.  

Posted By: Beemer310
Are you that much of a m*r*n that you can't read the original post?? It does not say anything about cars..

Jesus H. Christ RPD...

Poor poor RPD...doing what his buddy BPS complained about..hijacking a thread just to try one up Harpman...

go on with your bad self..talk about getting a life..hahahaha...

What happened to the old RPD who WAS intelligent and could handle an argument? Now all he is reduced to is trololololololing...i guess hanging around your buddy had its effect huh?

Beemer loves you always...
Posted By: rpd1952
I forgot to respond to the medal post.  I'll go with:  Mercedes for the gold, Kia the silver, and Hundyi the bronze.

I'm stalking you; I "demanded" that you remove a post.  Do you actually believe what you write or did you just take lessons from Carl Rove or Rush L.?  You can write me another page and a half if you like, but brevity is better.

Harpman60943 reads

paymasters can see you for the pathetic figure you are.
As far as your role in wanting me to carry  out your pay masters instructions , if you are too senile to remembers a simple search of your posts ( the ones that were not removed by the mods for slander) will help you remember , your meltdown over the K-doll poll played out in public for all to witness and you ended up joining ms piggy and Kermit, JMc in his own words would make you wonderful reading despite the removed posts.

JMc you added and have nothing relevant to contribute to this thread , but after taking tome off  licking your wounds you are resuming your witch hunt against B310 and myself. Give it a rest , get a life , oh top of everything else you are simply boring and a drag. jMc move .  

Posted By: rpd1952
I'm stalking you; I "demanded" that you remove a post.  Do you actually believe what you write or did you just take lessons from Carl Rove or Rush L.?  You can write me another page and a half if you like, but brevity is better.

RPD went all out and had to write his manifesto on why the booker called him oh wait, he initially said it was the provider then corrected himself because he knew he was already full of it. That was a sad moment and embarrasing moment for him. It was very sad how you seemed to be grovelling in an attempt to save face..

Yeah...great job on that one buddy..

That was when I think you got embarrased and started using the alias. Remember that? I called you out on it about your writing style remember? Spot on RPD..you are so transparent even your alias gave up on you.

Hahahahaha...

I can't wait for this years poll. Maybe RPD will get it right this time and vote for actual people instead of objectifying them as cars. I hope you can follow directions this time.


Beemer and his K-arma!

Posted By: Harpman60
paymasters can see you for the pathetic figure you are.
As far as your role in wanting me to carry  out your pay masters instructions , if you are too senile to remembers a simple search of your posts ( the ones that were not removed by the mods for slander) will help you remember , your meltdown over the K-doll poll played out in public for all to witness and you ended up joining ms piggy and Kermit, JMc in his own words would make you wonderful reading despite the removed posts.

JMc you added and have nothing relevant to contribute to this thread , but after taking tome off  licking your wounds you are resuming your witch hunt against B310 and myself. Give it a rest , get a life , oh top of everything else you are simply boring and a drag. jMc move .  
Posted By: rpd1952
I'm stalking you; I "demanded" that you remove a post.  Do you actually believe what you write or did you just take lessons from Carl Rove or Rush L.?  You can write me another page and a half if you like, but brevity is better.
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Yeah, good re-write of history and spin doctoring.  My passing on a request from the booker who felt it was a safety issue constituted a "demand."  And you took such offense to that you come back later pm'ing me for info on k-girls.  And if you classified that as a meltdown, then you must be humongous puddle on the floor since you go through a few of those every week.

the boards with your garbage....


Get a life instead of responding to us...oh wait..you seem to be following us all the time...we are your life it seems....

Posted By: rpd1952
Yeah, good re-write of history and spin doctoring.  My passing on a request from the booker who felt it was a safety issue constituted a "demand."  And you took such offense to that you come back later pm'ing me for info on k-girls.  And if you classified that as a meltdown, then you must be humongous puddle on the floor since you go through a few of those every week.

OK, so here I am, no alias (I've never had or used one), a 10/10 reviewer of Nicole.  I stand by EVERY review I've ever posted, all hundred+ of them, including the one for Nicole.  I think she's absolutely beautiful and provides an intimate, sexy and top of the line experience.  At least, that's been my experience with her each and every time; each experience has been like with any GF- we talk, fool around, argue and then have mad passionate make up sex!  I've always stayed longer than our appointment time and she has NEVER asked nor expected extra donation from me.  But, YMMV.
As for whether or not she asks her clients for scores, well, who cares?  The problem is the idiot who gives the perfect score when he doesn't really believe it!  Another poster said his cable repairman asked for perfect scores, so do my car mechanics for their reviews.  Who cares what they ask for, WE control OUR scores and should post only honest scores here.  And those who don't are the ones who screw it up for us.  I do agree that scores are subjective to the reviewer which is why I always look at the reviewers other scores to see if we have the same opinions when deciding whether or not I should trust them.  So, stop hating on Nicole already and take responsibility for your own scores!

And whine all you want about TER, fuckers, which is boring, but for crissake get some clue about hurting people who work in the community.  Look up the definition of heresay.  dashman, obviously this isn't directed at you, but I am adding to your point because it makes sense.

I believe integrity and honesty are expected by most hobbyists here on the board. In my review, I didn't mean Nicole was a bad provider. IMHO, she just did not deserve to be among those top ones with 10/10 scores. I admit those scores are subjective, however, with most 10/10 scores, I guess everyone would expect sth outstanding. But from my experience, it was not. Whether it's subjective or not, I can't trust those 10/10 scores anymore.

FIDCUOF1152 reads

I agree.  I have any given a 10/ 10 like once.  Let's face it, most these women are NOT super models. They are hot but not that caliber.  Agree?  Disagree?  Either way it's VERY subjective.  That's why I tend to PM people that have seen these ladies and ask more questions.  I like thin/ skinny blondes and others ghat like chubby Asians.  Whatever your click or fansy just be open and honest when we PM you

We have had a similar discussion on the SD boards ,please Check it  out .It's about time we stand up to false ,fake or unfair reviews more hobbyists need to out both the ladies and hobbyists

This is an important topic, worthy of comment from all corners.  And, to a limited extent, the back and forth has been on point.  Sadly, like nearly all of the threads on this board, however, a significant percentage of the content has been devoted to personal attacks divorced from the topic.  We don't need to bitch at Harpman because of his patronage of K-girls.  Harpman, we don't need your personal diatribes at Fiducof and his sneaky past.  And to the other snarky posters, just cut it out please.  I agree that it is important to call out providers who corrupt review integrity, and I think it worth noting that the offending party has not chimed it.  But it is a waste of everyone's time to prattle on about how somebody has cooties and so we should or shouldn't pay attention to them.  Enough, please.

Its akward when a provider pleadingly asks for a 10/10 review.  I get asked when they can tell that i've had a fantastic time.  My response is always, I will write a great review for you.  No offense to the 10/10 guys, but usually that makes me less likely to want to see a girl.  I have to waste more of my time checking up the reviewer, their reviews to get a better feel for trusting them.

When I see a 10/10 I question what the ulterior motive is; true, I write reviews of my good times to help a provider get business, and to help keep a girl around that I would want to see again.

I dont think there is anything wrong for a girl to ask if you'd give her a good review, but asking for a 10/10 makes me think she's missing the point of what a review is all about.

Harpman601044 reads

spot on , we should focus on the issue and while I did not appreciate fidcuof making it about himself , especially with his own history, my effort should have been put in keeping all on topic.

Posted By: dripper
This is an important topic, worthy of comment from all corners.  And, to a limited extent, the back and forth has been on point.  Sadly, like nearly all of the threads on this board, however, a significant percentage of the content has been devoted to personal attacks divorced from the topic.  We don't need to bitch at Harpman because of his patronage of K-girls.  Harpman, we don't need your personal diatribes at Fiducof and his sneaky past.  And to the other snarky posters, just cut it out please.  I agree that it is important to call out providers who corrupt review integrity, and I think it worth noting that the offending party has not chimed it.  But it is a waste of everyone's time to prattle on about how somebody has cooties and so we should or shouldn't pay attention to them.  Enough, please.

Harpman601280 reads

way or another. I do care about the reviews being honest and not dictated or written by providers or fakers who want free VIP days. You seem to be oblivious to the issue otherwise would not ask such a dumb question. No wonder you are too ashamed to use your screen name handle. What kind of compensation are you getting for your post.

I have no idea who Nicole is or what she looks like but I was disgusted by what I read in the two reviews I cited.

Nuff time wasted on you than you are worth. Sorry no biscuits or chocolate .

Posted By: loves2hobby

Harpman WTF is your problem with Nicole?

Ahhh ... I almost missed the party here. LOL Well, I usually don't like to post, but it seems Harpman60 is addressing to me as well as Nicole, I did a review on Nicole. It really is not a big deal to me whatever you might think of me, but I'll just throw my 2c out here.

1. I will stand by my review of Nicole Page. It's true and the actual experience of my encounter with her. I may find someone better tomorrow, but it's a 10/10 experience when it happened.

2. I don't feel anyone here should feel that they have the moral high ground to judge others. We are the outlaws. Society has determined that it's wrong (immoral, sinful, etc.) to engage in our hobby. Why do we need to make it harder by judging or fighting among other? Why take it so seriously? It's just a fun little hobby. Let's just enjoy it. :)

3. I feel the possibility of making false accusation is quite high when there's no proof. Reviews are not proof. One person's say so is not proof. I don't really see any real evidence here. It's too quick to jump to the guilty verdict. Let's say you prove it beyond any reasonable doubt. What's the big deal? Would it be acceptable if she asked for 9/9 or 8/8? At what point, it becomes unethical? Are we saying nobody should ask for a good review?

Finally, I wish you luck in your pursue of justice and ethical behavior. I probably won't be back here on this topic because I am going to be busy pursuing making money and having fun. :)

Posted By: Harpman60

I consider most unethical and rather predatory   for a John to threaten a provider with bad review if she does surrender to his unreasonable demands, I know this is a very common complaint of blackmail is common among newbie 90-day wonder , whose English is limited , who want to please and cannot afford to have a bad review. 

On the other side of the coin is providers who ask clients to give review them and give them a score of 10 & 10 irrespective of their performance ,attitude and service they offer. It is unethical for a provider to engage in such a conversation with a client and once this becomes public it puts the credibility of the said provider's reviews in doubt.

I recently came across these two reviews of Nicole Page in which both reviewers allege  that she asked them for 10, 10 scores. If their claim is true it makes all of NP's reviews worthless  and her reviewers reputation tainted.

HIHOSTEVERINO'S REVIEW OF NICOLE PAGE

http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/showReview.asp?Review=1261317

PUNTER69'S REVIEW OF NICOLE PAGE

http://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/showReview.asp?Review=1264410

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JohnISmyname1083 reads

Just one more thing because your reasoning bothers me. You chose 2 reviews out of 59 and concluded all her reviews are worthless and her reviewers' reputation tainted (which I don't care). You completely ignored the other 57 reviews. It seems to be a rather weak argument. Is there any other evidences, scientific proof, or rigorous logic behind your conclusion?

JohnISmyname989 reads

not sure how my post ended up at this location, oh well

Posted By: JohnISmyname
Just one more thing because your reasoning bothers me. You chose 2 reviews out of 59 and concluded all her reviews are worthless and her reviewers' reputation tainted (which I don't care). You completely ignored the other 57 reviews. It seems to be a rather weak argument. Is there any other evidences, scientific proof, or rigorous logic behind your conclusion?

http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2011/08/80-percent-of-shoppers-change-purchase-decision-based-on-negative-reviews-research.html

This is what Harpman60 is really trying to do. You can mask it with you eloquent written responses but in the end you are tryng to slander her for whatever reason. If it is such of prevalent issue as you state, why did you concentrate on NP in particular? Why not give more evidence to support your claims?

Harpman60957 reads

Assumptions but facts will remain facts and threes is nothing you can do about that but squirm. Enjoy your reviews , hope they are not as false  as your accusations.
End of dialogue.

Posted By: joe_farve_11
http://www.marketingpilgrim.com/2011/08/80-percent-of-shoppers-change-purchase-decision-based-on-negative-reviews-research.html

This is what Harpman60 is really trying to do. You can mask it with you eloquent written responses but in the end you are tryng to slander her for whatever reason. If it is such of prevalent issue as you state, why did you concentrate on NP in particular? Why not give more evidence to support your claims?

If they accusations are false as you state why won't you provide more evidence to the contrary and feel the need to respond to false accusations? If you read my post correctly I want more facts yet you won't provide them. That is your counter argument to prove me wrong?

The two guys who's reviews Harp links to have both rated Lohan as 10/10. Probably a clue as to how he happened to stumble onto their reviews of N.  H. has dropped L's name a time or 200 in his posts.

So have a lot of other people my (t)witty friend....

are you now trying to grasp for straws? Did you just go through reviews to dig this up? the same thing that you accused Hman of doing? Did you fall so low as to now "not get a life"?


HAhahahahahaha OMG dude....you are obsessed...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...wait wait......who has no life now?


OMG...seriously RPD...HAhahahahahahahahah!!!!


RPD: You have no life for sifting through reviews blah blah blah....

RPD: All you do is talk about Kgirls you have no life blah blah blah..

RPD: You have no life for digging things up from way back...blah blah blah blah...

RPD: What a coincidence...The two guys who's reviews Harp links to have both rated Lohan as 10/10. Probably a clue as to how he happened to stumble onto their reviews of N.  H. has dropped L's name a time or 200 in his posts.


yes buddy..thanks for having a life.......for a guy that says for other people to get a life, you seem very infatuated with ours...

I applaud you for standing up and making your statement about integrity.



I was waiting to see how many people would be hypocritical and just jump on Harpman for his statements and guess what..true to form...all the same people jump on the bandwagon...


Good job fellas..good job...

You guys are getting played like a mother....

sooo predictable...


Beemer shaking his head...

Really? I'm shocked! Does Madame Patricia ever mentioned that Nicole Page expressed herself in that matter? She spoke in a generalize form yet Mr. Harpman did not. Why do think that is? Please enlighten me.

Your argument would make more sense if you did not single out on a single person. That is the point. Don't mask it for what it truly is.

And for the record I am not fighting on behave of NP because I have vested interests with her. They only reason why I am doing this is because Mr. Harpman made it a point to single her out for whatever reason unbeknown to his legions of lackeys.

Posted By: Beemer310
I applaud you for standing up and making your statement about integrity.



I was waiting to see how many people would be hypocritical and just jump on Harpman for his statements and guess what..true to form...all the same people jump on the bandwagon...


Good job fellas..good job...

You guys are getting played like a mother....

sooo predictable...


Beemer shaking his head...

so then....where were you when a certain person singled out a certain SPECIFIC ETHNIC group and made a specific effort to demean them?

Does that count or just certain providers?


Don't start with the "lackey" bullshit ok? You may think you don't have a vested interest but honestly you know you do.

Many people have been called out specifically and providers but this one just jumped out at you? Please....

Like I stated before, if a provider asked you to give her a 10, and if you do..you might as well let her write the review...and then what's the point?

If Lexus or BMW asks me for a rating on how I felt they did in terms of service and an associate asks me specifically to give them marks that they think they deserve is serving whom??

Yeahhh buddy...don't be a lackey to your emotions ok? You lose your perspective.


toodles

I love the counter arguments that are not related to my original argument. You are masking the intentions once again. What you mentioned are valid points but not in the context of this thread which is the singling out of person for no apparent reason. When is it justified the outing of a single person? The only time it is justified is when that person can cause harm to someone in the community of actions of such person can perpetuate upon an unsuspecting someone.  
I find it very telling when you say "If I am a lackey...so are you..." because I never once called you a lackey directly. That proofs that the truth hurts.

No your not a lackey and I apologize for that...


"The only time it is justified is when that person can cause harm to someone in the community of actions of such person can perpetuate upon an unsuspecting someone."


BUT...isnt that what she is doing by asking for 10's to be given?

Is she not creating a false impression and thus can be harmful to the community by having hobbyists waste their money on false pretenses based on her reviews?

Ultimately does it not do her more harm than good?

example:


If a hobbyist gives her a 5 not out of spite but an honest feeling for the session..what now?
Will she cry wolf and call it a fake? (we know who did that right?)

Will she appeal to the board and start saying " I have always gotten 10's, this review IS a fake because I always get 10's! (We know who did that as well right?).

SO for someone "getting" 10's all the time..sorry to say that there is nowhere else to go but down..what then? Who is to blame? The provider? the hobbyist?


Guess what....both of them.

Harpman brought up a good point and if he singled her out..blame the guys who pointed it out on their review that she ASKED for the 10's. (My opinion ok?)

The op should apologize.  It's one thing to whine about TER and the flaws in review policy.  It's a whole different story to attack a member of the community (Nicole) for no reason, which harp troll has done here.  The gals here are equal to the men and I place FUN above the OPs strange little ideas about hobbying ethics (a contradiction in terms)

Nicole's a freaking hottie and tons of fun.  The op?  If you came to my party, you might be allowed to stand in the corner, if you promised not to pollute the FUN.  Pay attention and you might still be able to get a life, dude.

Happy hobbying all and please have good time, your way.  That's the point.

MayNeedWITSEC966 reads

I have been reading this thread with interest the last few days, wanting to post several times but always stopping myself.  But after seeing several people speaking out when they have no direct experience with Nicole, I felt I could stay silent no longer.  What follows is my own experience with her, with some things intentionally left out or vague to (hopefully) protect my identity.  

First off, yes I am using an alias.  That is because I have been vaguely threatened by Nicole over a review I did of her that didn't meet with her approval.  Based on our messages back and forth I have a genuine fear of her doing something to attempt to blacklist me.  The irony here is that if anything I was actually being a bit generous with my scores and general review, but apparently she disagreed and she has asked me several times to take it down.  Beauty (and performance) is indeed in the eye of the beholder, but I am personally shocked over how many hobbiests have rated her 10/10 - especially some with several reviews under their belt.  IMHO she doesn't even come close to those numbers.

One last thing I will mention is that when we first met up and were chatting she asked me what I would rate her in looks, and being nice I said a 9 (not really meaning it, but trying to be nice to her and not spoil the mood before the deed).  She asked me not to write a review on TER then because she wanted to keep her scores perfect.  At the time I didn't have any particular problem with her request, but I definitely do not like what I have seen from her since my review was posted.  

Calling out that type of behavior is far more important to me than fighting over an extremely subjective scoring system and whether or not a provider should be asking for good scores.  As others have mentioned just because they ask doesn't mean you need to comply.  But we DO need to feel free and comfortable to put up honest reviews based upon our actual experiences.

I find your timing impeccable and the use on of an alias that much more telling. You nullify the validity of your statement by using an alias. What she going to do to you that you need to protect your identity? Get the mafia to go after your ass like the hobby mafia on this board?

ummmm.......Why don't you ask a certain asian provider that happens to practice the same thing we are all talking about...

just a suggestion....


pssst...her name is Asian Alli......I will leave it at that.


Beemer loves you so give me a 10!

Your total lack of review credo makes you appear as an insipid, cowardly, socially retarded misogynist seeking revenge for your inadequacies by sniping at providers with third party rumor and innuendo.

 You're a spineless, whining, loser troll; Harpman60. I don’t give a fuck what your reason(s) for not “reviewing”.

I am surprised by the caveman attitude that some people are displaying here. Some people have shown an absolute lack of class in how they have responded, simply because the OP has no reviews. I agree more credibility is bestowed to those who have written reviews, but that does not mean we need to act like douchebags. It's easy enough to express your opinion, including pointing out that one might want to have reviews (credibility) before uploading such a divisive thread, without being a--holes about it.  Clearly, there are some a__holes with anger issues who, by the very nature of how they responded, have just as little cred as the OP despite having reviews. In my book, it's not just having reviews that lends one cred, but also the maturity in how one responds/moderates/facilitates such issues as these.

I've always thought that the point of these regional boards is to have a forum for discussion - a back/forth dialogue by various hobbyists through which each individual can then form his own opinion about polarizing topics, which this clearly is.

As unpopular as this type of topic might be, shouldn't we give the OP the benefit of the doubt that he had a legit reason to do this, especially when there are other people who have come forth to back his claims? At the same time, we have other people who have backed Nicole, which is fine too. Clearly, there is a divided community of opinion around NP that runs counter to all the 10/10 reviews, and from my perspective as a hobbyist, that's important information.

The value of these threads is that by looking at the totality of information available - including posters and whether they have reviews, and if so how many and of whom etc. - we can form our own conclusions as to whether we want to see a provider. Let's face it - the review system and reviewers are often flawed, and these types of threads are needed to help add more context/color. Not saying these threads will always have the desired outcome, but I think for the most part we hobbyists aren't out there to sabotage providers, but rather to inform and protect other hobbyists.

And when these threads devolve into a caveman name-calling affair such as this - well having such a community becomes pretty damn pointless imho...

I agree 1000%. The problem in this case is the way the OP went about it by creating this thread to single out on one person. It is a modern form of lynching and if someone does not step in to give perspective to the mob mentality she would be trialed, convicted and executed without a trial. I am all for a fair trial. Aren't you? I have asked for more evidence but I keep hearing the same unrelated arguments. Proof me wrong is my stance.
What's worse is the sneakiness of their modus operandi. I do not hide behind aliases or have other people fight my battles or have lackeys affirm my believes. I fight my own battles.
These are all valid points you mentioned but not when they are used to mask the true intentions or motivations of the OP.
It would serve the community better if it was done in a different manner.

Harpman60844 reads

You would not have the stupidity of bribing up one of the darkest periods of American history.  Why am I not surprised that you are so eager to insult the memories of those on whose back this country was built. How smart ? Sickness surely takes minds where minds should never go.

Why don't you tell us about your real motive and what you expect to gain. No need I can imagine.  

Rest assured if ever come review such as the ones I cited I will post them. That is my prerogative.    

Posted By: joe_farve_11
I agree 1000%. The problem in this case is the way the OP went about it by creating this thread to single out on one person. It is a modern form of lynching and if someone does not step in to give perspective to the mob mentality she would be trialed, convicted and executed without a trial. I am all for a fair trial. Aren't you? I have asked for more evidence but I keep hearing the same unrelated arguments. Proof me wrong is my stance.
What's worse is the sneakiness of their modus operandi. I do not hide behind aliases or have other people fight my battles or have lackeys affirm my believes. I fight my own battles.
These are all valid points you mentioned but not when they are used to mask the true intentions or motivations of the OP.
It would serve the community better if it was done in a different manner.

Seriously? You do not even believe that yourself.  Without knowing, all you are doing is reaffirming my point.

Instead of posting such ludicrous statements why don't you get your friends (or lackeys whichever you prefer) to post on your behave. They seem more educated and eloquent then you.

My real motive has been voiced, no need to reiterate. Just re-read my previous posts.

I also find it funny that you choose to chime in now when I have been asking you to prove me wrong for the last 5 posts.

Another interesting point that hasn't been said in all the posts to date is: Why haven't you contacted TER directly with your concerns? If you feel there is such mis-justice to the review system don't you feel they need to know? After all this is a review site, right? But instead you took it upon yourself to tell the community of a single person with 2 disgruntled customers in order to lynch them and hide your ulterior motives for doing so.

Harpman60798 reads

I might have with TER, what business of yours is it.
Why would you suggest that the 2 reviewers are doing anything than posting their honest experience . I would give them more credibility than some I suspect of being a bought and paid for lackey .

I don't have to prove you anything I posted the OP , if you want to discuss/ debate/argue the topic and the issue of providers corrupting the scoring system by asking , demanding or bribing their way to higher scores than they deserve fine  
Otherwise don't demand or insist on anything ,the OP stands on it's own merits ,but feel free to point out any factual error or dispute the authenticity of the cited reviews.

The issue is simple a provider is asking clients for 10 . This undermines the value of reviews.

You have done more to damage your providers reputation than any post by me could do. I far you may be denied any favors yiu might have been promised for your futile White Knight failed effort.
   

Posted By: joe_farve_11
Seriously? You do not even believe that yourself.  Without knowing, all you are doing is reaffirming my point.

Instead of posting such ludicrous statements why don't you get your friends (or lackeys whichever you prefer) to post on your behave. They seem more educated and eloquent then you.

My real motive has been voiced, no need to reiterate. Just re-read my previous posts.

I also find it funny that you choose to chime in now when I have been asking you to prove me wrong for the last 5 posts.

Another interesting point that hasn't been said in all the posts to date is: Why haven't you contacted TER directly with your concerns? If you feel there is such mis-justice to the review system don't you feel they need to know? After all this is a review site, right? But instead you took it upon yourself to tell the community of a single person with 2 disgruntled customers in order to lynch them and hide your ulterior motives for doing so.  

Quote from you: "Rest assured if ever come review such as the ones I cited I will post them. That is my prerogative. "

Where have you been? That's what I have been asking you all along. Bring them!!!!!!!!

"I do not hide behind aliases or have other people fight my battles or have lackeys affirm my believes. I fight my own battles.
These are all valid points you mentioned but not when they are used to mask the true intentions or motivations of the OP. "


You know..I'm not one to hide behind the skirt of an alias and all but my goodness...this sounds like....Harpman....



Sorry...just had to point that out...

You don't read this board much if you think some of us Cavemen have a problem with the OP Caveman "simply because he has no reviews."  It's a just a tad bit deeper than that.

You think the OP is about protecting other hobbyists?  I guess it's all about how you see things - there's Cavemen and caves, but there's also Socrates and The Cave.  If I was interested in seeing NP, I would check out her reviews, see the reviews that are linked above and make my own decisions.  I would be protected and in no need of the OP.

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Your so awesome and with such a great wit
just add a "T" and you become a twit

RPD is such a smarty
He knows everything, more than Harpy

He doles out remarks and sagely sayings
just to hide his ineffectual ravings

Oh how he missed the Rainbow Connection long ago
He and his friend BPS approve the term "k-hoe". (ahem..ho)

Oh RPD dont get your panties in a tangle..
trying to look smart is not your angle...



muah...

Beemer loves you hypocrite...

btw...that aaron burr post was a long time a go..thanks for having a life...hahahahahahaha

Harpman601001 reads

which of your reviews are genuine? I can't tell the fake from the genuine if there are any genuine.If you want to see a loser, troll, predator and a habitual lying paper clown look in the mirror, you seem to have invested enough of your time reading my post, I never wasted my time on yours until your polluted my thread.

Who care about what you give or don't give a fuck about. Aren't you being rather presumptuous, don't flatter yourself too much.

You can curse , scream and shout but you have helped put Nicole Page under greater scrutiny that she would otherwise received. Good going.  

Posted By: RRO2610
Your total lack of review credo makes you appear as an insipid, cowardly, socially retarded misogynist seeking revenge for your inadequacies by sniping at providers with third party rumor and innuendo.

 You're a spineless, whining, loser troll; Harpman60. I don’t give a fuck what your reason(s) for not “reviewing”.
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I've reviewed over 50 providers and seen many I haven't revewed. I've been a hobbyist since 2002 and I say with confidenc that Nicole is one of the best!  She didn't ask for a review or even mention it. I suspect Harpman just gets off by going after a top rated girl that isn't a K girl.

You say she is one of the best with confidence but yet she is alleged to still have asked for 10's...

Why would she need to do that? Did her service not live up to the 10's she "deserves"?

It is ok to suspect but then back it up.

Harpman can fight his own battles but what amazes me is that he provided 2 reviews in which it plainly says she ASKED for 10's thus in my view corrupting her reviews.

She may not have asked YOU but she definitely asked 2 others..

Wait..what's one of the mantra's of this hobby?

"If she does it with you, she does it with others..".....whoa..epiphany time....



Why donl't you pm the many guys who have seen her and given her 10's and then read the reviews written my Harpmann's cohorts. One of those guys has a verified rep on this board of being a liar.
Again my big question is why Harpmann has singled out this one provder and yet he's never seen her.
It is very odd.

Harpman601005 reads

below her expectations ? Has she ever tried to have TER remove reviews not to her liking. The more one learns about NP the more...,,,,

Posted By: funseeker99
I've reviewed over 50 providers and seen many I haven't revewed. I've been a hobbyist since 2002 and I say with confidenc that Nicole is one of the best!  She didn't ask for a review or even mention it. I suspect Harpman just gets off by going after a top rated girl that isn't a K girl.  

funseeker, I have had the pleasure of seeing several of the women you had seen and our ratings are surprisingly consistent. I also stand by all of my reviews including Nicole Page. She did not ask me to review her. Attacking one specific provider showed how classless this "H" guy is. Enough of this dumbass post!

H. is big of a certain K-girl, many are, she's great.  He see two guys who give his girl 10/10s, checks their review history's out, and see's they rap N.P.  Now, N.P. is in the top 100, H's lady is not.  Oh the unfairness, and I can agree that it is unfair.  H doesn't like this, so he's got a score to settle and decides he's got to expose NP.  But he knows his girl, and K-girls wins in the end as he has, more than once and even also within this thread, boiled disagreements down to essentially this -  ha, ha, my k-girl wins, she makes more coin than this other girl.

Of course, one guys theory is another guys slander.



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